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Title: Live Presidential thread
Source: freedom4um
URL Source: http://freedom4um.com
Published: May 15, 2006
Author: 4um
Post Date: 2006-05-15 20:00:11 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 2697
Comments: 94

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#13. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

I hope I see a 25% approval rating tomorrow. Please Lord, you know I rarely ask for favors. Just give me this one.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-15   20:09:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#13)

hope I see a 25% approval rating tomorrow. Please Lord, you know I rarely ask for favors. Just give me this one

LOLOLOL!!!

christine  posted on  2006-05-15   20:12:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#18)

FREAKERS LIVE THREAD

Mind_Virus  posted on  2006-05-15   20:13:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Mind_Virus, Christine (#21)

Mod Note: This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts. Jim

Why can't these bastards just be honest and say that all they want on that thread are 'ditto to the above'....and let jimjoker start the thread off.

What a bunch of fools they are to stick around such an obvious demand that you drink the koolaid and follow the company line.

Absolutely incredible the amount of sheeple eating the grass over there.

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-15   20:33:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: rowdee (#55)

Absolutely incredible the amount of sheeple eating the grass over there.

I'm going to have to call in a cleaning surface after spewing all that pepsi. You paying?

After listening to that mush-mouth garbage tonight, all I can think is he committed political suicide. It all sounds so reasonable on the surface, but notice he did NOTHING about the t-bone steak employers are teasing immigrants with? Not a thing. They offer what to a Mexican or Guatamalan is a dream job, at $6 an hour, to do pretty nasty jobs. They know damn well their employees are illegals, because their turnover is 200 percent. But Tyson and Swift and the rest can't run their companies on real pay; you can automate a lot of the food industry, but cutting cows up has to be done by hand. Killing chickens has to be done by hand. Picking strawberries has to be done by hand.

I have no idea how to solve this mess. No one does. We can't deport 12 million people, and if we did, it would be a total disaster. You want 6 million houses tossed on the market at sacrifice prices? You want half the restaurants in the country to shut down? The meat plants? The gardening industry?

That will happen. Bush's plan is totally ludicrous, a mish-mash that will affect nothing. He deliberately cut the money congress had set for hiring new border patrol, and his numbers tonight were way off. His worker ID card will be counterfeited within weeks. The employers will continue to believe they're real, because without those workers, they are out of business. They deliberately moved their plants out of the cities to avoid unions, and now the only way they can get employees willing to do nasty jobs for lousy pay is to tempt poor people over the border.

They have used tech to make skilled workers obsolete. In the old days, a good meat cutter made a great living. Today, a machine does the cutting, not as well, and we get an inferior product, and it somehow still costs a lot more. Tyson and Cargill, to name two, are pumping their meat full of water and brine to maximize profit, and Wal-Mart only sells pumped up cheap meat, filled with water because it would dry out instantly otherwise. The grade WM sells is select, as opposed to choice or prime. The only grades lower are general, which is only used for pet food and those awful frozen "patties with gravy" things. Below that is not fit for human consumption.

Tyson is perhaps the third or fourth most powerful lobbyist in Washington, after the pharma and oil industries. Look at their products carefully. On the whole, they're pumped and salted, and really inferior. They only survive because of really cheap labor. And if you go to Arkansas, you will see guys with little wagons selling fake documents right near Tyson plants. They pretend to believe the ID because 30 guys quit yesterday and they need new bodies.

Not once did Bush speak about fining people like Tyson. Look at the records of GOP contributions, and that's why. You have decent companies like Swift, and you have the Tyson's and Wal-Marts, who want to promote a race to the bottom.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-05-15   21:30:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Mekons4 (#76)

It 'won't work' is only mouthed because it's never been attempted. Just like building a frickin fence!

We can drop bombs down a frickin 2" pipe in a building, but can't build a fence?

The Egyptians built pyramids not buildable today, but we can't build a frickin fence?

We can repair exotic millions of light years away telescopes in outer space but can't build a frickin fence?

We can listen in to millions and millions of people's conversations and keep databasses beyond the mind's comprehension....but can't build a frickin fence?

Don't tell me we can't do it.......we don't have the intestinal fortitude to do it. Rather, it is much easier to sit on our asses, and let foreigners take over the country. Then when we're in the minority in our own country, we can become servants to them/

What fuckin fool thinks a mexican or anyone else wants to stay in a $6 an hour job the rest of his life? Like an illegal is going to come over here and be content to clean toilets til he's 65? Puleeze........

Oh yes......let's just give them some ID....like no one else on the fuckin planet can't make forgeries? Cripes, we ain't been so damned hot in making foolproof documents?

And so what on documentation........if the bastards don't bother to come review it, a lot of good that will do. Yeah.........let's just get all them employers.......hold them friggin little guys to the same standards as the biggies.........or the day hire guys who pick em up on the streets and pay em under the table......'xactly how is any of that gonna get caught'---oh, I know........let's have a federalized 'squealers program'.

If these people are all so wonderful, help them back to their countries where they can work to improve their own government instead of tearing this fuckin mess down any further.

Am I mad? You bet your sweet ass I am mad!

And then there is always the possibility that this ignorant asshole in the whitehouse has been made a deal he can't refuse, just like his daddy when he didn't put on a reelection campaign........perhaps the world's elitists have decided it is time to change the party in power--to throw the sheeple off, of course--and put the damn dems back in. As Carroll Quigley wrote, there's no difference.....just the appearance of different. This allows the sheeple to continue to continue the metamorphosis to ostriches with heads in the sand.

A pox on all of them. Just don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.......the dirty bastards.

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-15   22:02:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: rowdee (#78)

Yeah, we can't build a fence, but we can make "tamper-proof ID".

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-15   23:35:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: mehitable (#89)

Hey, I can make a tamper proof ID too.

I can wipe my ass with my driver's license, and make it so nobody wants to fucking touch it.

This is exactly what is being done to the American People. They're being used like buttwipe.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-15   23:36:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#93. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#90)

Tommy, you may be mad...but you're a bleeping genius. So I wonder if Kleenex will get the govt contract for the new "tamper-proof IDs"?

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-15 23:43:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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