God is always good! "It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
If I want to be lied to and stabbed in the back, I'll call my ex wife. I don't need to watch the chairman and founding member of the fetal alcohol syndrome committee.
"Bomb De-Fusing For Dummies, Chapter 1, Wiring: Red Before Yellow Kills A Fellow."
There was a fever over the land. A fever of disgrace, of indignity, of hunger. We had a democracy, yes, but it was torn by elements within. Above all, there was fear. Fear of today, fear of tomorrow, fear of our neighbors, and fear of ourselves.
Seeking a rational middle ground for giving them amnesty. Let then stay in the country until they get in behind the legals -- or until they die of old age.
UGA PRESIDENT OBJECTS TO LABEL ON GEORGIA-FLORIDA GAME University of Georgia President Michael Adams objects to the phrase "World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party" to describe the annual Georgia-Florida football game. And he has asked CBS Television and the city of Jacksonville, Fla., to not use the phrase when promoting the game the network televises each year. The request is part of Adams' push to curb on-campus alcohol abuse and change UGA's image as a party school. "There are better images," Adams told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "We have requested they not use that nomenclature. The indication is they are sensitive to our concern." You can read the full story by clicking here. – Associated Press
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What a fucking prick.
"Ah Love! could you and I with Him conspire To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire, Would we not shatter it to bits---and then Re-mould it nearer to the Heart's Desire!" ----Fitzgerald's Ruba'iyat, XCIX
God is always good! "It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
I'm pretty sure he said "jobs Americans aren't doing."
There was a fever over the land. A fever of disgrace, of indignity, of hunger. We had a democracy, yes, but it was torn by elements within. Above all, there was fear. Fear of today, fear of tomorrow, fear of our neighbors, and fear of ourselves.
Show me a time when he's gotten in front of a camera and hasn't.
Yeah, but did he tonight?
God is always good! "It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
I'm pretty sure he said "jobs Americans aren't doing."
If he did that's great! I didn't catch the very start so I might have missed it, but I saw the majority of it and don't recall hearing that.
God is always good! "It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
I hope many other Ameircans heard that too. By saying that he just killed a speech that actually could have helped him.
God is always good! "It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
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Why can't these bastards just be honest and say that all they want on that thread are 'ditto to the above'....and let jimjoker start the thread off.
What a bunch of fools they are to stick around such an obvious demand that you drink the koolaid and follow the company line.
Absolutely incredible the amount of sheeple eating the grass over there.
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Dear gawd I seriously can't watch this..
I'm not even going to waste my time watching this worthless gasbag. "We can't build the wall." Tell that to the Chinese...THEY built a wall that can be seen from FRICKIN' earth orbit TWICE AS LONG as our border with Mexico CENTURIES AGO, but bad-ass AMERICA can't get the job done with all our wonderful modern-era construction equipment???? Bullsh*t, George...bullsh*t.
Here is the simple version of Shrubya's speach that eliminates all the politicalese, political correctness and NWOese.
"My fellow Americans:
I am a member in good standing of the Pope Benedict XVI Kiss my Ass Club. Because of this I have to help him inforce the 500 year old "bull" of another Pope, Alexander VI also known as Rodrigo Borgia. I will continue to do this by allowing enough Illegal Aliens in this country so that he can take over and at the same time try to look tough enough so that my polls don't continue to swirl down the toilet.
I'm not even going to waste my time watching this worthless gasbag. "We can't build the wall." Tell that to the Chinese...THEY built a wall that can be seen from FRICKIN' earth orbit TWICE AS LONG as our border with Mexico CENTURIES AGO, but bad-ass AMERICA can't get the job done with all our wonderful modern-era construction equipment???? Bullsh*t, George...bullsh*t.
Tancredo is on O'Reilly now and saying there is another option and dumb f*ck O'Reilly is saying its okay if people work here and they should be able to if they "go to the back of the line".. Tancredo, "These people who are here illegally will be able to stay here and work.. it's not fair"
Asshole O'Reilly says we need stringent oversight for those who are already here.. and says they should be able to stay and it's a 'hardline position' to expect them to be removed.
Tancredo, "if we do this again 20 years ago the same plan we got promised we'd get enforcement and amenesty .. if we combine these two concepts.. the same thing is going to happen... Baloney.."
Just scanned the LP thread. Everyone is hooting at Bush 'cept Ghost of Quantrill. They're almost worse than we are. Can't see Bush gaining much from this.
From the Washington Post: “Nearly half of the nation's children under 5 are racial or ethnic minorities, and the percentage is increasing mainly because the Hispanic population is growing so rapidly, according to a census report released today.” G-d have mercy on the caucasian minority, because they won't get any from the new majority.
President's Immigration speech - Live thread me | 05/15/2006 | me
Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617 Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.
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It is soooooooooooooo irritating to hear him say "We are a nation of laws" and then, by describing years of un-lawful immigration, constructively admit that his Executive branch of the Government is guilty of abetting that un- lawful immigration by not having enforced those laws ---- written by the Legislative branch of Government !
Just scanned the LP thread. Everyone is hooting at Bush 'cept Ghost of Quantrill. They're almost worse than we are. Can't see Bush gaining much from this.
I dont think he honestly cares to be honest.. The people behind the scenes WILL get their agenda though .. no matter what the people want.. we just dont matter to him or them in any way shape or form..
Absolutely incredible the amount of sheeple eating the grass over there.
I'm going to have to call in a cleaning surface after spewing all that pepsi. You paying?
After listening to that mush-mouth garbage tonight, all I can think is he committed political suicide. It all sounds so reasonable on the surface, but notice he did NOTHING about the t-bone steak employers are teasing immigrants with? Not a thing. They offer what to a Mexican or Guatamalan is a dream job, at $6 an hour, to do pretty nasty jobs. They know damn well their employees are illegals, because their turnover is 200 percent. But Tyson and Swift and the rest can't run their companies on real pay; you can automate a lot of the food industry, but cutting cows up has to be done by hand. Killing chickens has to be done by hand. Picking strawberries has to be done by hand.
I have no idea how to solve this mess. No one does. We can't deport 12 million people, and if we did, it would be a total disaster. You want 6 million houses tossed on the market at sacrifice prices? You want half the restaurants in the country to shut down? The meat plants? The gardening industry?
That will happen. Bush's plan is totally ludicrous, a mish-mash that will affect nothing. He deliberately cut the money congress had set for hiring new border patrol, and his numbers tonight were way off. His worker ID card will be counterfeited within weeks. The employers will continue to believe they're real, because without those workers, they are out of business. They deliberately moved their plants out of the cities to avoid unions, and now the only way they can get employees willing to do nasty jobs for lousy pay is to tempt poor people over the border.
They have used tech to make skilled workers obsolete. In the old days, a good meat cutter made a great living. Today, a machine does the cutting, not as well, and we get an inferior product, and it somehow still costs a lot more. Tyson and Cargill, to name two, are pumping their meat full of water and brine to maximize profit, and Wal-Mart only sells pumped up cheap meat, filled with water because it would dry out instantly otherwise. The grade WM sells is select, as opposed to choice or prime. The only grades lower are general, which is only used for pet food and those awful frozen "patties with gravy" things. Below that is not fit for human consumption.
Tyson is perhaps the third or fourth most powerful lobbyist in Washington, after the pharma and oil industries. Look at their products carefully. On the whole, they're pumped and salted, and really inferior. They only survive because of really cheap labor. And if you go to Arkansas, you will see guys with little wagons selling fake documents right near Tyson plants. They pretend to believe the ID because 30 guys quit yesterday and they need new bodies.
Not once did Bush speak about fining people like Tyson. Look at the records of GOP contributions, and that's why. You have decent companies like Swift, and you have the Tyson's and Wal-Marts, who want to promote a race to the bottom.
I have no idea how to solve this mess. No one does. We can't deport 12 million people, and if we did, it would be a total disaster. You want 6 million houses tossed on the market at sacrifice prices? You want half the restaurants in the country to shut down? The meat plants? The gardening industry?
I have no idea where you got these stats, but have you considered the social cost of these 'workers'? And what of those in prison? Should they be kept at a cost at a minimum of 30k to 40k per year? Can we agree they get the boot forthwith?
It 'won't work' is only mouthed because it's never been attempted. Just like building a frickin fence!
We can drop bombs down a frickin 2" pipe in a building, but can't build a fence?
The Egyptians built pyramids not buildable today, but we can't build a frickin fence?
We can repair exotic millions of light years away telescopes in outer space but can't build a frickin fence?
We can listen in to millions and millions of people's conversations and keep databasses beyond the mind's comprehension....but can't build a frickin fence?
Don't tell me we can't do it.......we don't have the intestinal fortitude to do it. Rather, it is much easier to sit on our asses, and let foreigners take over the country. Then when we're in the minority in our own country, we can become servants to them/
What fuckin fool thinks a mexican or anyone else wants to stay in a $6 an hour job the rest of his life? Like an illegal is going to come over here and be content to clean toilets til he's 65? Puleeze........
Oh yes......let's just give them some ID....like no one else on the fuckin planet can't make forgeries? Cripes, we ain't been so damned hot in making foolproof documents?
And so what on documentation........if the bastards don't bother to come review it, a lot of good that will do. Yeah.........let's just get all them employers.......hold them friggin little guys to the same standards as the biggies.........or the day hire guys who pick em up on the streets and pay em under the table......'xactly how is any of that gonna get caught'---oh, I know........let's have a federalized 'squealers program'.
If these people are all so wonderful, help them back to their countries where they can work to improve their own government instead of tearing this fuckin mess down any further.
Am I mad? You bet your sweet ass I am mad!
And then there is always the possibility that this ignorant asshole in the whitehouse has been made a deal he can't refuse, just like his daddy when he didn't put on a reelection campaign........perhaps the world's elitists have decided it is time to change the party in power--to throw the sheeple off, of course--and put the damn dems back in. As Carroll Quigley wrote, there's no difference.....just the appearance of different. This allows the sheeple to continue to continue the metamorphosis to ostriches with heads in the sand.
A pox on all of them. Just don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.......the dirty bastards.
I have no idea how to solve this mess. No one does. We can't deport 12 million people, and if we did, it would be a total disaster. You want 6 million houses tossed on the market at sacrifice prices? You want half the restaurants in the country to shut down? The meat plants? The gardening industry?
Hope you don't take my rantings as a personal attack.
Ya know what........if there are restaurants and meat plants and gardeners that are doing illegal things while my brother is playing by the rules, I hope to hell they lose their businesses! I really do........he's lost property by playing by the rules. What makes them any better than he?
The houses........fuck the banks! If theyre stupid enough to sell a house to 20 names.....that is the way the mop flops. If I can't make my mortgage payment, I lose my house to them.....so they can turn around and sell it-- again==and again.
How many more years are we willing to sit on our asses and wait to be 'outvoted' -- if not actually -- mentally beat down -- by people who have no loyalty here.....who broke laws and were granted purity by our own government.
I dont think he honestly cares to be honest.. The people behind the scenes WILL get their agenda though .. no matter what the people want.. we just dont matter to him or them in any way shape or form..
I think it is do or die for the GOP on this one. Appears to me there were three promises made to the big money money people: abolish middle class bankruptcy, destabilize the mid-east and open the borders to unlimited while and blue collar labor.
The houses........fuck the banks! If theyre stupid enough to sell a house to 20 names.....that is the way the mop flops. If I can't make my mortgage payment, I lose my house to them.....so they can turn around and sell it-- again==and again.
My point was, Tyson and Wal-Mart and others tempt these people over the border with jobs. They know they are illegal, they make their business plan on hiring illegals to do nasty jobs cheap. They are the ones who should be punished, not the poor people who will do anything for an income. I have spent a lot of time in Latin America; it is even worse than you can imagine. People who have never eaten meat other than cheap sausage...it is truly horrid.
If I can take a minute to give my solution. The Greeks chip in and buy a diner, then ship over young boys to work there, living in a dorm, then going home. The diner takes care of the town. I think this could be applied to Mexico and other latin american countries. They create a business, and pay taxes, then go home.
I gotta go to bed, but that is where I am now. I realize I can get flamed, but if you were a guy with kids you could not feed, you'd do what they do too.
So give them the guns and ammo and training to go back and take their own country back. Or go in a black ops buncha crap and help with a revolution. Otherwise, you can bet your butt, every 20 years we're gonna be doing this......OR........they're gonna be kicking us over the old border!
I seem to be getting a lot of digs lately about being a Bush supporter. Actually, I was never a Bush supporter. I was always sort of suspicious of the guy. You can see this is many of my posts, but I'm not going ot do your research for you. You go find the posts yourself.
Anyway, I can't even remember if I ever voted for the guy. If I did, it was only a couple of time and only because I was distracted.
I feel a cold coming on so I will probably not be on LP tomorrow. After that I will probably go on vacation.
(grin)
Sixty five thousand little turds dispensed to date ....
We never thought you were a lying, sneaky, evil little asshole, Badeye. We just thought you were not worth ever knowing in any way. Poor old badeye, despised by all who meet him. *grin*
It's tough to do that on your own. But I still hope you manage to enjoy yourself with your hummer.
"Ah Love! could you and I with Him conspire To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire, Would we not shatter it to bits---and then Re-mould it nearer to the Heart's Desire!" ----Fitzgerald's Ruba'iyat, XCIX
I'm listening to that fucking moron Bill O'Retard.
I am fucking sick of these pricks talking about illegal aliens like they're all priests and nuns.
What I'd like to do, is have some absentee landlord, rent a house to a family of illegals in the neighborhood that Bill O'Reilly lives in.
Why??? Because that prick would see first hand, HOW THEY LIVE.
Where there'd be one family, there'd be at least 5. Then there'd be at least 20 cars in the yard. Loud parties, screaming children, destroyed lawns, and of course, the smell of urine and feces for miles.
You should see how some of these people live in Minneapolis. Across the parking lot, there was a house owned by an absentee landlord. He had drug deals out of that house until the cops busted them. Not to mention the chickens, and loud bullshit going on over there.
I'm telling everyone, this illegal alien problem isn't just people coming here illegally, it's the bullshit they bring to this country in the name of cultural diversity.
I DON'T WANT CULTURAL DIVERSITY. I WANT AMERICAN SOLIDARITY, AND SOVEREIGNTY.
So do most Americans. We don't give a fuck where you're from, just become an American and be loyal to THIS country, not your fucking homeland. If your homeland was so fucking great you sure as fuck wouldn't be living HERE!
Cultural diversity is another name for DIVISION. Dividing up people according to race, and culture, in order to make sure they don't become cohesive. The minute the people of this country agreed on something, we'd probably revolt.
I hate the people who are in charge with every fiber of my being, because they flat out do not care what they do. They're part of the fucking problem. We need regime change here, a total throwing off of the two party system. Dems, and Pubs are evil people who aren't fit to lead a horse to water, let alone make it drink.
IMPEACH, INDICT, INCARCERATE!!!!
What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.
Okay, I freely admit that I cannot watch the Cretin-in-Chief without my head spinning like Linda Blair's in the Exorcist. So...what the hell is a tamper-proof ID card? Is it made of kryptonite or what? And when are they going to ship the printing presses to Vincente?
Did anyone catch the CNN broadcast of the Cretin's rehearsal?
I gotta go to bed, but that is where I am now. I realize I can get flamed, but if you were a guy with kids you could not feed, you'd do what they do too.
I understand what you're saying, but it's not our problem. We are going to lose our OWN country and culture because of excessive and misplaced "compassion" and guilt. We are committing cultural suicide. I'm not sorry enough for anybody to do that. These people have got to FIX THEIR OWN COUNTRIES.
I DON'T WANT CULTURAL DIVERSITY. I WANT AMERICAN SOLIDARITY, AND SOVEREIGNTY.
I agree. It's push come to shove time, and we have to be honest. I don't want these folks either. I see enough of them in many of our communities ringing Boston, and it's just like you describe. I don't hate them or mean harm to them or want bad things to happen to them, but I just don't have anything in common with them and we don't share a common language, culture or values. I want MY COUNTRY BACK.
Incredible logic, huh........up is down, down is up, left is right, right is left, north is south, east is west......and we're supposed to lock step to this bullshit!
