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Title: Migrants scoff at border patrol plan
Source: Fort Wayne Journal-Gazette
URL Source: http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journa ... =contentModules/printstory.jsp
Published: May 16, 2006
Author: Marina Montemayor
Post Date: 2006-05-16 11:30:41 by Tauzero
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Views: 82
Comments: 10

Migrants scoff at border patrol plan

By Marina Montemayor
Associated Press

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Looking for someone to help him cross into the United States, Jorge Gutierrez said Monday it will take a lot more than U.S. National Guard troops to keep him and other migrants out.

Most Mexicans believe the plan, announced Monday night by President Bush, will do little to stop the flow north. President Vicente Fox called Bush this weekend to say he did not believe sending soldiers to the border was the answer.

The countries have rarely seen eye-to-eye since Bush and Fox agreed to work toward immigration issues five years ago at a meeting at Fox’s ranch in Mexico. Fox wants the Bush administration to give amnesty to millions of migrants living in the U.S. and allow more to seek jobs legally from outside the country.

Bush rejected the idea of an amnesty and instead proposed allowing people with job offers to enter the United States and work legally for three years.

The topic has generated a heated debate in Congress, where members are divided between those who simply want to lock down the border and those who also want more comprehensive proposals.

Bush proposed sending National Guard troops to the border as a stopgap measure while the Border Patrol builds up its resources to more effectively secure the 2,000-mile line between the U.S. and Mexico.

The move is aimed at winning support for immigration overhaul from conservatives who are more interested in tightening security along the border.

Gutierrez, who had just arrived in Juarez from Torreon to look for a way to cross illegally into the United States, said he didn’t believe the troops would make a difference.

“No Guard, no wall will keep us from crossing,” he said.

Jesus Rodriguez, 49, agreed. He was looking for ways to cross one of Juarez’s international bridges. “For Mexicans, there are no obstacles,” he said.

Francisco Loureiro, who runs a migrant shelter in Nogales, across the border from Nogales, Ariz., criticized the plan as an “aggressive action more than anything because the migrant is not a criminal or a terrorist.”

“His only objective is to work … and a government that supposedly lobbies for world peace is now acting against defenseless migrants who are helping to fill a need for employers in the U.S.”

Presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar told reporters Monday that while Fox “expressed his concern” over the proposal to Bush, he had no choice but to respect it.

“It is a sovereign decision,” he said. “We can’t interfere.”

Mexico has had a tough time convincing the U.S. that it is doing everything it can to prevent and provide alternatives to illegal migration, especially when it is dependent on the remittances migrants send home.

In 2005, migrants sent about $2034;billion to Mexico, where remittances represent the second-largest source of foreign income, after oil sales.

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#1. To: Tauzero (#0)

There's nothing wrong here that a hail of bullets wouldn't solve.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-16   11:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tauzero (#0)

“No Guard, no wall will keep us from crossing,” he said.

I believe a WALL would.

christine  posted on  2006-05-16   11:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tauzero, all (#0)

I know what I'm going to say is obvious...but what the hell. The neo-cons are SO AGRESSIVE and combative when it comes to countries like Iraq and now probably Iran...but when it comes to MEXICO - they turn into day old kittens. In the past I never thought of the Mexican government as particularly frightening or awe-inspiring, but they definitely got Bushco p-whipped.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-16   11:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mehitable (#3)

I know what I'm going to say is obvious...but what the hell. The neo-cons are SO AGRESSIVE and combative when it comes to countries like Iraq and now probably Iran...but when it comes to MEXICO - they turn into day old kittens. In the past I never thought of the Mexican government as particularly frightening or awe-inspiring, but they definitely got Bushco p-whipped.

And that's very odd since most of the men in Bushco don't even seem to like "p." :P

"Ah Love! could you and I with Him conspire
To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire,
Would we not shatter it to bits---and then
Re-mould it nearer to the Heart's Desire!"
----Fitzgerald's Ruba'iyat, XCIX

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-16   11:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#4)

Ole Fox must have a vault full of negatives down there. I never thought I would see the day when the United States government would be cowed by Mexico. I wish we could do some seance and bring back Teddy Roosevelt to see it.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-16   11:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mehitable (#5)

I never thought I would see the day when the United States government would be cowed by Mexico. I wish we could do some seance and bring back Teddy Roosevelt to see it.

Or even Woodrow Wilson. He sent US military men who would later become famous like Pershing and Patton deep into Mexico on a punitive expedition for what the damn Mexicans are doing to us now.

"Ah Love! could you and I with Him conspire
To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire,
Would we not shatter it to bits---and then
Re-mould it nearer to the Heart's Desire!"
----Fitzgerald's Ruba'iyat, XCIX

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-16   12:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mehitable (#3)

From a related article

In a migrant shelter in Ciudad Juarez, a group of 10 Central Mexicans and Central Americans watched a soap opera while Bush's speech was broadcast live on the other channel.

"People here have more important things to do then watch Bush," said Carlos Amado Luarca, a Dominican monk who works in the shelter. "This plan to send soldiers is one more sign of the decadence of the American empire."

The monk is right. Our businessmen have no loyalty to their countrymen; and we ourselves, in bondage to a grotesque, suicidal piety, have meekly ceded our patrimony to the alien -- house by house, block by block, city by city.

Reclaiming our patrimony is the work of men, I daresay of the varon. House by house, block by block, city by city. There is no number for this service in the Yellow Pages; it cannot be outsourced.


You know you're old when the porn starlets you liked as a kid start appearing in "mature" vids.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-05-16   12:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#6)

Man, you KNOW you are the World's Biggest Pussy when you are out-macho'd by Woodrow Wilson. George Bush, World's Biggest Pussy. Someone should make a T- shirt.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-16   12:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tauzero (#7)

It's gonna come down to that, T. I've been saying for some time now, that if the government does not stop this invasion, at some point, the people will. I see a war with Mexico within the next generation starting with ordinary people at our borders.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-16   12:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: aristeides (#0)

aristeides, have you seen any polling data on the reaction to Bush's border speech last night? I'm just asking because you're usually "Johnny-on-the-spot" with such data. ;)

"Ah Love! could you and I with Him conspire
To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire,
Would we not shatter it to bits---and then
Re-mould it nearer to the Heart's Desire!"
----Fitzgerald's Ruba'iyat, XCIX

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-05-16   14:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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