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Title: It looks like a missile to me
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Published: May 17, 2006
Author: valis
Post Date: 2006-05-17 14:31:27 by valis
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Keywords: Pentagon, 9/11, missile
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Check out frame 24 of the second video released to Judicial Watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAaP4Z3zls8 Now if you took this video and particularily frame 24 and asked someone just waking from a coma what they saw, how many people here think their answer would involve the word "airplane"? I had never previously been a big proponent of missile theory, but that looks like a missile. Straight up.
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#1. To: All, *ARG List* (#0)
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"Debunking 'Caveman' conspiracy theories since 2002" Yeah, you're right Joe. And, you know sumthin else? The hole in the Pentragram wasn't big enough for a passenger jet liner to pass through unless it was processed by the world's largest hydraulic press first! Hoo dew they think they're foolin'? "Uh, the plane's wings folded back against the fuselage, like a bird's folding against its body!" Suuure they did, buddy! ;)
It's a dead man's party Who could ask for more Everybody's comin', leave your body at the door Leave your body and soul at the door__OINGO BOINGO
How could inexperienced, untrained hijackers with adrenalin flowing maintain a very low, i.e., ground level approach without bringing that nose down and doing cartwheels? That missile appearing to be object didn't appear to have the height of any airplane I ever flew on. I don't recall seeing any tail fins or wings or whatever they're called, either.
Jamie Gorelick questioning Donald Rumsfeld at 9/11 Commission Hearing, March 23, 2004.
"It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them." Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation
Bump to your post and aristeides' just above; 2 different people (Jamie Gorelick
and Donald Rumsfeld), same word, MISSILE!
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] I have done relatively little investigation into the Pentagon crash. It looks like this plane is traveling extraordinarily low. How high off the ground would this be and how difficult is it to fly a plane that low? It must have descended pretty rapidly from some kind of cruising altitude. I've flown a small plane once, not comparable to one of these jets, of course, but even a small plane would require a certain amount of experience and dexterity to aim at so a low object and crash into it before hitting the ground (short of the target).
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
I'll second that!
There's no forward-moving damage in evidence. A missile is possible, but that leaves the collapsed portion lacking an explanation. Funny, how that works!
it is a misslle. rumsfeld even said so!
And it's an inside job And it's an inside job That's a quote from Jamie Gorelick questioning Rumsfeld at the 9/11 Commission hearings. I give a link and a date for the quote up above in this thread.
You're a pilot, if I remember right? Do you think some guys with limited aviation experience could fly a big plane like that so low into the Pentagon? I would think they'd just crash and burn before they hit the mark. How much aviation skill would something like that require?
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Looks just like a missile, AND... here's the big kicker... Did anyone notice that the Jet Fuel burned off REALLY quickly? With that much jet fuel all over the place, especially the fuel that should have been all over the outside of the building, because that's where the fuel tanks are, surprisingly there were no continuing flames outside the building. Interesting to say the least. TO ME, that was NOT a jet.
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#2. To: valis (#0)
Now if you took this video and particularily frame 24 and asked someone just waking from a coma what they saw, how many people here think their answer would involve the word "airplane"? I had never previously been a big proponent of missile theory, but that looks like a missile. Straight up.
#3. To: valis (#0)
#4. To: valis (#0)
So my question is: In this summer of threat, what did you do to protect, let's just say the Pentagon, from attack? Where were our aircraft when a missile is heading toward the Pentagon? Surely that is within the Pentagon's responsibility to protect -- force protection, to protect our facilities, to protect something -- our headquarters, the Pentagon. Is there anything that we did at the Pentagon to prevent that harm in the spring and summer of '01?
#5. To: All (#0)
Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense - Source
#6. To: Uncle Bill, aristeides (#5)
#7. To: valis (#0)
#8. To: valis (#0)
It looks like a missile to me
#9. To: Valis, Christine, Diana, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Arator, Brian S, A K A Stone, Steppenwolf, Bub, mugwort, bluegrass, Bill D Berger, FormerLurker, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, Flintlock, Neil McIver, tom007, aristeides, Burkeman1, Diana, (#0)
#10. To: valis, SKYDRIFTER, all (#0)
By the well-connected
#11. To: All, Rumsfeld quote Where were our aircraft when a missile is heading toward the Pentagon? (#10)
By the well-connected
#12. To: christine (#11)
#13. To: SKYDRIFTER (#9)
#14. To: valis (#0)
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#15. To: mehitable, SKYDRIFTER (#7)
I saw a good explanation of this. The turbulence of flying that low at the high speeds they claim, in a jumbo jet, would make the manoeuvers impossible.
how difficult is it to fly a plane that low?
"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954
#16. To: BTP Holdings (#15)
I don't know the mechanics, BTP, but intuitively that's what I would think as well - that flying a big plane like that so low into a building like the Pentagon would take some primo flying skills that these patsies weren't likely to have. I think it might be a tough job for a regular airline pilot, were he so inclined.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#17. To: christine (#11)
It's a shame the people who need this information will never accept reality. I'm not quite sure what it is about the general population, but they clearly don't give a rip.
#18. To: Uncle Bill, aristeides, Jethro Tull (#5)
check out the quote cited by Uncle Bill
And it's an inside job
By the well-connected
#19. To: Uncle Bill (#5)
Good find, UB. Much appreciated !
#20. To: aristeides, TommyTheMadArtist, Jethro Tull (#4)
I see now that it was Gorelick who said missile but Rumsfeld says it himself another time. The fact that they both said missile rather than Flight 77 or a jet heading towards the pentagon is quite telling. How is it possible that that is not focused in on by the public?
And it's an inside job
By the well-connected
#21. To: SKYDRIFTER (#9)
How easy/difficult would it be for inexperienced people to pick out landmarks and 'aim' for them, let alone follow a designated flight path--all the while having an adrenelin rush or euphoric high of meeting allah and your virgins-- and flying so low and level as to appear to be parking in a garage?
#22. To: rowdee (#21)
That's my question, too, rowdee. I don't see how it's possible.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#23. To: christine (#20)
I was very struck by Gorelick's testimony at the time, and pointed it out (on LP, I think.) But I got little response.
#24. To: christine (#20)
Check Uncle Bill's post. Yes, they both referred to missiles.
Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center.
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]
#25. To: mehitable (#13)
I used to fly the 757. If I had to do such a thing, it would be necessary to crash short of the building, then depend on the inertia, to hit the damaged spot. With "ground effect" alone, the purported story is crap. Such is the geometry of the reality.
#26. To: rowdee, Christine, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Arator, Brian S, A K A Stone, Steppenwolf, Bub, mugwort, bluegrass, Bill D Berger, FormerLurker, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, Flintlock, Neil McIver, tom007, aristeides, Burkeman1, Diana (#21)
If one had to do such a deed, it could only get close. Ground effect would put a factual 757 into the third story of the building.
#27. To: SKYDRIFTER (#26)
The Air America station here in D.C. replayed a Randi Rhodes segment today, in which she was strongly suggesting that what hit the Pentagon could have been a missile. I'm not sure what day the segment was from, but, since it was in part about the newly released video, it must have been from some time in the past week.
#28. To: aristeides (#27)
I heard it live on Thursday.
The Air America station here in D.C. replayed a Randi Rhodes segment today, in which she was strongly suggesting that what hit the Pentagon could have been a missile.
#29. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#28)
Thanks.
#30. To: aristeides (#23)
I recall you highlighting that mention of a 'missile'. I doubt I responded because I didn't have anything to add.
I was very struck by Gorelick's testimony at the time, and pointed it out (on LP, I think.) But I got little response.
#31. To: aristeides (#27)
I recollect Condi using the term 'missile' also; but more along the lines as aircraft used as missiles. I could be mistaken on this one.
#32. To: SKYDRIFTER (#26)
The whole world is starting to realize 9/11 was an inside job. The video is just another con job to try to keep the sheeple asleep.
Ground effect would put a factual 757 into the third story of the building.
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