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Title: The Nine Principles of the Goddess
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Published: May 20, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-05-20 02:25:01 by Pandora
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Here is an interesting philosophy. I've always liked this: The Nine Principles of the Goddess 1. I acknowledge that there is one Goddess in essence, Creatrix of all existences; Her forms are infinite, She manifests Herself in our love, and we are all Her lovers. 2. Treat all beings with reciprocity, for the Goddess lives in them as well as in us. 3. Tolerate other religions and do not compel others to join the circle of the Goddess: the Goddess will draw those to Her who are ready and hear Her call. 4. Worship Her by restoring balance to Her planet. 5. Eat mostly grains, vegetables and fruits, so that there will be enough food for all; when you eat thank the Goddess, the provider of all energy. It is not forbidden to eat animal flesh in moderation, but when you do so you must thank the animal that you eat as well. 6. In the circle of the Goddess create consensus while respecting diversity of opinion. On the path of the Goddess there are many paths. 7. In your home create a sacred space for the Goddess to please Her. Meditate on the Goddess three times a day, at rising, at noon and at sundown. 8. Sexuality is Her sacrament; enjoy this gift and bless those who you share it with love and affection. Remember that overcoming jealousy is the cause of cessation of the cycle of rebirth. 9. Announce the religion of the Goddess to the world through good works, honest words and selfless acts of beauty and love.
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'We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future.' ~ Wilhelm Reich
Hmm there are parts of this I do adhere to..
Whackjob.
Freeper motto: "I read, but do not understand; I write, but make no sense."
well, here is the proof in actual text. I simply must be the Anti-Goddess, there is no other logical explaination.
LOL!.. well the mind wanders here.. my 'goddess' issues are .. well rather basic.
Well, this follows one dictum that I would hold to if I were going to create a religion: Keep it simple, lest ye begin to slay one another.
I'll see your Nine Principles of the Goddess and raise you the Nine Noble Virtues of Asatru: Hospitality Also known as courtesy, hospitality is to be generous, kind, and loyal to those who enter your house or with whom you have dealings. Courage Courage is a mental state which impels an individual to accomplish some endeavor, regardless of fear and/or danger. Truth An acknowledgement, acceptance and promotion of what is. Loyalty Loyalty is the unwaivering commitment to the well being of those who are deemed worthy of such a commitment. Honor Honor is the expression of self esteem by an individual envolving the keeping of promises, the performance of duites, and the respect of other peoples value and possessions. Self Reliance Self Reliance is the ablility and desire to provide for ones self. Hardwork Also known as Industriousness, Hardwork is the willingness to provide for ones self, and ones family, by labor and effort. Perserverance Perserverance is the willingness to accomplish some goal or endeavor regardless of obstacles or failures. Discipline Discipline is the self motivaton by an individual used to accomplish goals. Good to see another Pagan around here!
I love children, but I can never finish a whole one.
Wife-swapping as the path to spiritual enlightenment and liberation, heh. These things are generally made up by deceitful people, and it shows in the disjointed construction of the "philosophy." For example, principle number one is phrased in the first person, as if this were some oath for one to recite. But then the rest are phrased in the second person, as directives or commands. I see this disjointed incoherence in most religions, but most blatantly and commonly in neopagan constructs. Number nine, of course, convicts the author, as those words are dishonest and self-serving, and because propagating fraud into the collective consciousness is a spiteful, ugly thing to do and an all-in-all bad work. Even the Book of Runes now contains a preface which acknowledges that the "meaning" of each rune was made up by the author. I think that if people who make these things up would make sure that there is a footnote or preface or something like that which informs the reader of the fictitious nature of the writings, then they might avoid the contempt of those who care about truth. Somebody just make some shit up and pretend it's some ancient religion, they have a serious smack-down coming to 'em, IMO. Steering people wrong in life.
LOL! hilarious...
And it's an inside job Sometimes religion has to be regrouped and reconstituted. My faith of Wicca is based on Goddess based religion suppressed and largely destroyed by intolerant faiths such as Christianity. If there is a need because people know the truth is still there, they are going to satisfy the religious need even if the documentation such as written history and doctrine has been largely eradicated. Let the blessings be.
The problem with these new religions is that they are not based on experience. What people fail to consider about the Bible is that the rules of the Old Testament - which Jesus also lived by and which formed the framework for his life and ministry - were created out of the actual experiences of a community of people over a period of hundreds, if not thousands of years. That's why the Bible is still referred to and the Jews are still a living people. The importance of the Bible is not so much any kind of philosophical constructs that may come through in some verses or chapters, but in the actual laws, prohibitions, restrictions, and duties that it asserts. Anyone can create some religion and say that we should all love each other, not hurt animals, not be jealous, etc, but the problem is that very few will live by those precepts. So many Christians have problems living by the precepts of Christianity as it seems to be primarily a philosophy rather than an actual way of daily life. I think people have problems when they separate the theory from actual experience and practice. I have no use for theory or philosophy myself as I think they're pretty useless for most people in the real world. It's the daily practices that matter.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Okay, I admit it. I worship the Goddess. In fact, I worship several of them! [tongue]
Unfortunately at the Council of Nicaea and in times and places, Christianity was sterilized of truths inconvenient and distasteful to religious authorities. Christianity has been made to uphold a concept of male dominated culture for example, and the Christian church would have us believe Christ didn't have a penis, or at least was so stunted emotionally he never had a wife or knew how to use his sexual equipment. I was raised Catholic, but I never ever felt an affinity for Christianity. I always sensed there was something very central to it that had been gutted from it, and it was a deeply profound relief to not let it be a bother to me anymore when I broke from it at around age thirteen.
I hear ya, "Ne'er again the burning times!" But, in fact, it isn't based on any such thing. The various paths in Wicca are do-it-yourself fictions, more akin to D and D role playing than any other neopagan construct I've seen. Having said that, I can acknowledge that making something up for yourself could be healthier than following a demonstrably destructive doctrine, but the whole Wiccan claim to some ancient pagan heritage is false. Likewise Druidry. Nevertheless, blessed be yourself, as well : )
I had the same experience because of the catholic religion. I'm not convinced catholicism is christian at all. I don't remember ever having heard one bible verse at catechism or mass nor do I ever remember hearing about God's love. It was all about the rituals of the church and worshiping of saints, the pope, and the virgin Mary from my point of view. I became aware of accepting Jesus Christ as my savior in high school through a ministry called Young Life and my subsequent bible study was at Presbyterian churches.
And it's an inside job I belong to a local Wicca group that is large, very vibrant and healthy. I see the deep need and richness of my religion constantly. I'm not sure why you mention Dungeons and Dragons in reference to Wicca, as that game is no more Wiccan in nature then GTO is a course in driving. All religions have a mortal, very human membership, and is based on their needs. And my religion fulfills my needs profoundly, and I note your criticism is common and we Wicca practitioners hear it all the time from Christians. So insecure Christians are to have to do this. Me thinks they themselves sense the core emptiness of their faith and often work to tear others down and to destroy their faiths to strengthen conscious denial of unconscious fears - much as their sister faith Islam does.
Heh, I recall confessing to a Priest in the confessional about my guilt over my newly discovered auto-erotic capabilities. Something quite natural and common to all young men. His reaction was to press me for details such as if I ever put my hand in my pocket and... need I say more? I left the booth feeling confused and irritated. If I knew then what I know now, I would have tortured that pedophile unmercifully. Celibacy is not a natural state, and it hurts that church incredibly. I would call it a Christian faith however. Regardless of some of the arcane and strange trappings, reverence of the Christ is still the central notion of that large and very dysfunctional organization.
I agree with that. But, if we're coming from a place of wrongness and ignorance, we may need some abstraction and analysis to begin to decide how to behave properly. Also, I might quibble with the semantics of your rejection of "philosophy," and assert that your philosophy is in you, part of you, and that your daily actions are an expression of your philosophy whether you intend this or not. What you seem to be rejecting is the intellectualization of philosophy. I recall from a psycology text I read once, from way way back, a clinician whose first step in therapy was to get people to generally characterize their beliefs about right and wrong and their personal philosophy, et cetera. Then then over the next few sessions get background info, establish a relationship, all that. The therapy really starts after a few weeks, when the therapist has enough information to lay out plainly the contrast between the subjects personal beliefs and the way s/he lives his/her life. Supposedly most folks have such disparities, and the reaction to having the contrast laid out for them is almost universally very, very strong. Like they go into a kind of shock and become very upset. Weeping, anger. The philosophy they espouse and believe to be true is not the philosophy by which they live their lives. By implication, they judge themselves to be "bad people." I think that for most of us, life, society and family condition us to behavior, and we "adapt" or achieve "functionality" by ignoring the schism within us.
I don't adhere to any religious dogma, but am rather a free and independent spirit who has an immense appreciation and respect for all living beings. I sense that you are the same.
laughing, Mike..no need to say more...I'm pinging JT cuz he has a similar experience. btw, have you seen the movie Heaven Help Us?
And it's an inside job Because of the pick-your-pantheon, make-it-up-as-you-go structure that has evolved in Wicca over the last 10 years or so. Very much like a role-playing game, where you give your character some powers, and make up some entities, each with various aspects and powers, then go with it. I do think that the current state of Wicca is more like a role-playing game than any other neopagan construct I've seen. Call myself a "witch" and pretend I'm an ancient martyr to intolerance. The make-it-up aspect is very blatant, yet collectively, Wiccans are the pagans least willing to explicitly acknowledge it. On a positive note, best thing I ever got from studying Wicca was an awareness of the herb Rosemary, which seems quite plain, but gets more interesting the closer you look. First real exposure to it was in one of Scott Cunningham's books around 1990 or so.
You have good gut instincts. For example, I know that intelligent, self aware species of whales and dolphins have language and culture and do not deserve the specio-centric label of ignorant beasts our species of hairless primates likes to label them with. I respect all life in general first and foremost as the most important thing to preserve and protect as well. Humans will only get to where they claim they want to go to religiously and culturally if they get over themselves and climb down their self manufactured pedestal and learn to respect themselves as one of many of Earth's species of animals. A species that is going to have a large and very cruel die off sooner then we think if we don't curb our appetite for goods and resources and bring our numbers back into the carrying capabilities of Earth's biosphere.
I see. So you are saying Wicca has to get focused to grow and have a greater impact as a religion. I can't say I disagree. But I still find your analogy invalid and incendiary. What sets off my alarm is how many fundies group us with Satanism and correlate Satanism with D+D. We do not believe in Satan, and that religion is corollary to Christianity, not us. Mentioning D+D as an analogy for us is just too close to the tools Fundies use as tools to bash and belittle us, and slander us as being in bed with a religiosity that has nothing to do with us; namely Satanism. Which is a church and religion in and of itself. I know because I've had heated debates with local Satanists and heard their mocking comments about my religion. Hope this clarifies my concerns, and where I am coming from.
Maybe because you call yourselves witches, who were historically "brides of Satan." Or, because both wicca and Satanism are neopagan constructs founded in the 20th century, largely as anti-christian alternative religions. I know, I know, it's such an unexpected surprise when you tell a Christian that you're a witch, and they get all bent outta shape about it. Anyway, there plenty of worse things than Wicca in this world, and I'm neither a Satanist or a Fundie. My criticism of Wicca is not intended as a personal attack, you seem like an okay guy to me.
You mean, those wanting to lynch and destroy Goddess based religion slandered witches as "brides of Satan." Satanism is an in yo face religion I see as having a mock the Christians aspect to it we don't. We also believe that physical pleasures are to be valued in a responsible and balanced fashion. Satanists are like the spoiled oat sowing sons and daughters of Christianity out to give their parents gray hair and sleepless nights, we are not. My group originally first met in a public room at a local bank. Fundies protested and picketed and got us removed as users of that resource. I have had to suffer fundie whines that we are Satanistic and demonic. That used to irritate and anger me, now I feel sorry for these misguided creatures and no longer give my energy away to them by arguing with them directly. We have found that being tactically proficient and end running them to speak to their target audience directly without letting them be a filter by being the information source about us themselves is very valuable. Wicca has it's growing pains, but is not going away. It's increased size and influence will force focus and definition on this faith as this growth causes increased confrontation with Christian Jihadists such as evangelicals. That's just the way it works with any religion as it grows and establishes itself in human culture.
The concept of a goddess is a satanist witch philisophy. There's only One God and the only way anyone has a chance to see him would be through Christ. This goddes crap will land you in HELL!
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Perhaps. Time will tell. For myself, I don't feel compelled to directly proselytize in this time. Just the opposite, actually. Like principle #3 in the original post.
Here's something that I see a lot of Christians touting. There was a son of God, he was a good and virtuous person. He spread his good word, and was betrayed by his friend. He was killed for his goodness, and then, rose from the dead three days later. He appeared to his disciples, and then later ascended into heaven. Guess who I'm talking about? Zoroaster. That's right, I'm talking about Zoroaster. He lived, was a good and righteous person, and guess what? He died for his faith, and was slew by demons. THEN... Came back from the dead, appeared to his followers, and ascended. WOW... Coincedence? A lot of people have no idea how the whole religion thing works. It's funny, because pretty much every faith says the same things. Be good, Be good to your friends, family neighbors, and strangers. Don't murder, don't steal, don't lie, don't cheat, don't screw your neighbor's wife or husband, Don't prey on the weak, that sort of thing. ALL FAITHS SAY THIS. Even Satanists have a set of standards and practices. What floors me, is how one group of people tout their religion as the one true religion, when in fact all of their tenets and beliefs come from several others. This is why I know there will be no Return of Jesus. If there is, it will be televised, and be a manufactured reality where the population is duped into thinking they'll ascend into heaven, and actually be led into ovens to be culled. THAT IS RIGHT FOLKS, the end times scenario is so that they can make damned sure they can depopulate this planet. All in the name of a false God, and a False Truth. Believe whatever you want folks, because when these Rapture Monkeys get their way, you won't have to worry about which faith is right and just. You'll just be lucky to be alive when it's all over.
#2. To: gengis gandhi (#1)
#3. To: gengis gandhi (#1)
Wilhelm Reich
#4. To: Zipporah (#2)
#5. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#4)
well, here is the proof in actual text. I simply must be the Anti-Goddess, there is no other logical explaination.
#6. To: Pandora (#0)
#7. To: Pandora (#0)
#8. To: Pandora (#0)
Sexuality is Her sacrament; enjoy this gift and bless those who you share it with love and affection. Remember that overcoming jealousy is the cause of cessation of the cycle of rebirth.
#9. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#4)
I simply must be the Anti-Goddess
By the well-connected
#10. To: Rabble Rouser (#8)
"Somebody just make some shit up and pretend it's some ancient religion, they have a serious smack-down coming to 'em, IMO. Steering people wrong in life."
#11. To: Rabble Rouser (#8)
#12. To: Pandora (#0)
#13. To: mehitable (#11)
#14. To: Ferret Mike (#10)
Wicca is based on Goddess based religion suppressed and largely destroyed by intolerant faiths
#15. To: Ferret Mike (#13)
I was raised Catholic, but I never ever felt an affinity for Christianity.
By the well-connected
#16. To: Rabble Rouser (#14)
#17. To: christine (#15)
#18. To: mehitable (#11)
It's the daily practices that matter.
#19. To: Ferret Mike (#10)
#20. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#17)
By the well-connected
#21. To: Ferret Mike (#16)
I'm not sure why you mention Dungeons and Dragons in reference to Wicca,
#22. To: Pandora (#19)
"I don't adhere to any religious dogma, but am rather a free and independent spirit who has an immense appreciation and respect for all living beings. I sense that you are the same."
#23. To: Rabble Rouser (#21)
#24. To: Ferret Mike (#23)
What sets off my alarm is how many fundies group us with Satanism
#25. To: Rabble Rouser (#24)
#26. To: Pandora (#0)
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#25)
It's increased size and influence will force focus and definition on this faith
#28. To: Pandora (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#29. To: Rabble Rouser (#27)
I am happy for your sanity in this then. ;-) Man, those screechers who scream and thump Bibles in public places are assholes. I am a political activist who has taken some on and shut them down sending them scurrying as I have developed excellent and formidable skills in doing so. Not to mention being blessed by the Goddess with a voice that would drown out a fog horn. I generally don't do so as I satisfied my curiosity to see what these people were made of, and prioritize my battles better then that. But I was highly amused that the reaction to people like me was to bring in people to accompany the screecher to hound, insult, threaten and harass the hecklers. Naturally that also did not work with me, but it was a useful indicator of just how organized and ruthless evangelicals are. I see absolutely positively no difference at all between evangelical Christians and the Taliban in Afghanistan and other Muslim fundies. If one has to go to such lengths to torture and bedevil the general population to that extent, one should see a mental health specialist, not be a public bother. ;-)
"For myself, I don't feel compelled to directly proselytize in this time. Just the opposite, actually. Like principle #3 in the original post."
#30. To: Ferret Mike (#29)
You might be interested in this: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=26594&Disp=0
#31. To: Pandora (#30)
Thank you for the link. I'll peruse it as soon as I can.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#26)
No it's not. You are simply a fundamentalist Moslem or fundamentalist Christian control freak. I can't tell which and it doesn't really matter; the result is the same, i.e., you won't feel comfortable until you have foisted your medeival religion onto everyone else. Some people don't want to be smothered in your security blanket. That is why the founding fathers added the First Amendment to the Constitution - to keep people like you at bay.
The concept of a goddess is a satanist witch philisophy.
#33. To: Pandora (#32)
The first amendment "religion part" only applies to THE CONGRESS, not the states. Several states had STATE RELIGIONS THAT WERE CHRISTIAN. The founding fathers would have burnt you at the stake. They knew a witch when they saw one.
Some people don't want to be smothered in your security blanket. That is why the founding fathers added the First Amendment to the Constitution - to keep people like you at bay.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#34. To: A K A Stone (#33)
There are no states with designated state religions. There may have been in the first intial confusion, or in the two years prior to the Bill of Rights, but certainly not after things got sorted out. The religious zealots spent over one hundred years trying to pass an amendment making the US a Christian country. They failed and gave up shortly after the civil war.
Several states had STATE RELIGIONS THAT WERE CHRISTIAN.
#35. To: A K A Stone (#33)
The majority of the founding fathers were Masonic adherents. George Washington, Jefferson, and many more. They use the same symmbols and hold to the philosophy of the Enlightenment the same way the Wiccans do. Note the pentagram in the streets of DC and the Wiccan symbols on the dollar bill. The founding fathers saw that it would be necessary to keep your kind at bay and they crafted the First Amendment to do so.
The founding fathers would have burnt you at the stake. They knew a witch when they saw one.
#36. To: Pandora (#34)
The religious zealots spent over one hundred years trying to pass an amendment making the US a Christian country. They failed and gave up shortly after the civil war. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; sorted out, what the fuck you talking about? There it is plain as day. CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW... That doesn't stop a GOVERNOR or STATE LEGISLATOR from making a state religion. The United States was a "christian nation" meaning the people were almost all christians. The christians are the ones who to a great degree made this country what it was. It was only after the government took prayer out of school and other such satanist stuff that our country went down the tubes. It is satanists like yourself that are the problem. Bush is a satanist too.
There are no states with designated state religions. There may have been in the first intial confusion, or in the two years prior to the Bill of Rights, but certainly not after things got sorted out.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#37. To: Pandora (#35)
You are correct about the masons, i dont know about jefferson. Your also right about the streets in DC.
The majority of the founding fathers were Masonic adherents. George Washington, Jefferson, and many more. They use the same symmbols and hold to the philosophy of the Enlightenment the same way the Wiccans do. Note the pentagram in the streets of DC and the Wiccan symbols on the dollar bill.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#38. To: A K A Stone (#36)
There is no state that has an officially designated religion. Likewise, the Federal Government has no designated or preferred state religion. This is in accordance with the First Amendment. A governor of a state can't toss out the First Amendments. All of the Amendments were made applicable to the states in about 1920. I forget the precise case, but it was a Fourth Amendment matter. Given this, a state cannot designate a state religion.
The United States was a "christian nation" meaning the people were almost all christians. The christians are the ones who to a great degree made this country what it was.
#39. To: Pandora (#38)
A governor of a state can't toss out the First Amendments. All of the Amendments were made applicable to the states in about 1920. I forget the precise case, but it was a Fourth Amendment matter. Given this, a state cannot designate a state religion. Dont be stupid ok. First amendment says CONGRESS. CONGRESS CONGRESS CONGRESS. II DOESNT SAY STATES CANT MAKE STATE RELIGIONS. IT SAYS CONGRESS FOR THE 10TH TIME. WHAT DOES IT SAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS JURISTDICTION IS....10 SQUARE MILES AND FEDERAL AREAS LIKE MILITARY BASES. SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CANT IMPOSE A STATE RELIGION ON US.....THE STATES ARE FREE TO DO SO. IT IS NOT THAT COMPLICATED....EVEN A THIRD GRADER CAN UNDERSTAND IT....WHATS YOUR PROBLEM?
There is no state that has an officially designated religion. Likewise, the Federal Government has no designated or preferred state religion. This is in accordance with the First Amendment.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Use google to view the symbology for Job's Daughters and then compare that to the Wiccan Symbology. I think the results will startle you. If you want more, see if you can find some of the oaths for the Job's Daughters and compare them to what is above.
You are correct about the masons,
#41. To: Pandora (#40)
I could care less if a bunch of satanist wiccans copied something christian. WICCANS ARE SATANISTS AND WILL BURN IN HELL!!! UNLESS THEY REPENT AND ACCEPT THE LIVING SON OF GOD JESUS CHRIST.
Use google to view the symbology for Job's Daughters and then compare that to the Wiccan Symbology. I think the results will startle you. If you want more, see if you can find some of the oaths for the Job's Daughters and compare them to what is above.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
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