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Title: The Nine Principles of the Goddess
Source: Sacred Texts
URL Source: http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/bog/bog02.htm
Published: May 20, 2006
Author: Unknown
Post Date: 2006-05-20 02:25:01 by Pandora
Keywords: None
Views: 21653
Comments: 271

Here is an interesting philosophy. I've always liked this:

The Nine Principles of the Goddess

1. I acknowledge that there is one Goddess in essence, Creatrix of all existences; Her forms are infinite, She manifests Herself in our love, and we are all Her lovers.

2. Treat all beings with reciprocity, for the Goddess lives in them as well as in us.

3. Tolerate other religions and do not compel others to join the circle of the Goddess: the Goddess will draw those to Her who are ready and hear Her call.

4. Worship Her by restoring balance to Her planet.

5. Eat mostly grains, vegetables and fruits, so that there will be enough food for all; when you eat thank the Goddess, the provider of all energy. It is not forbidden to eat animal flesh in moderation, but when you do so you must thank the animal that you eat as well.

6. In the circle of the Goddess create consensus while respecting diversity of opinion. On the path of the Goddess there are many paths.

7. In your home create a sacred space for the Goddess to please Her. Meditate on the Goddess three times a day, at rising, at noon and at sundown.

8. Sexuality is Her sacrament; enjoy this gift and bless those who you share it with love and affection. Remember that overcoming jealousy is the cause of cessation of the cycle of rebirth.

9. Announce the religion of the Goddess to the world through good works, honest words and selfless acts of beauty and love.

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#8. To: Pandora (#0)

Sexuality is Her sacrament; enjoy this gift and bless those who you share it with love and affection. Remember that overcoming jealousy is the cause of cessation of the cycle of rebirth.

Wife-swapping as the path to spiritual enlightenment and liberation, heh.

These things are generally made up by deceitful people, and it shows in the disjointed construction of the "philosophy."

For example, principle number one is phrased in the first person, as if this were some oath for one to recite. But then the rest are phrased in the second person, as directives or commands.

I see this disjointed incoherence in most religions, but most blatantly and commonly in neopagan constructs.

Number nine, of course, convicts the author, as those words are dishonest and self-serving, and because propagating fraud into the collective consciousness is a spiteful, ugly thing to do and an all-in-all bad work.

Even the Book of Runes now contains a preface which acknowledges that the "meaning" of each rune was made up by the author. I think that if people who make these things up would make sure that there is a footnote or preface or something like that which informs the reader of the fictitious nature of the writings, then they might avoid the contempt of those who care about truth.

Somebody just make some shit up and pretend it's some ancient religion, they have a serious smack-down coming to 'em, IMO. Steering people wrong in life.

Rabble Rouser  posted on  2006-05-20   10:43:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The problem with these new religions is that they are not based on experience. What people fail to consider about the Bible is that the rules of the Old Testament - which Jesus also lived by and which formed the framework for his life and ministry - were created out of the actual experiences of a community of people over a period of hundreds, if not thousands of years. That's why the Bible is still referred to and the Jews are still a living people. The importance of the Bible is not so much any kind of philosophical constructs that may come through in some verses or chapters, but in the actual laws, prohibitions, restrictions, and duties that it asserts.

Anyone can create some religion and say that we should all love each other, not hurt animals, not be jealous, etc, but the problem is that very few will live by those precepts. So many Christians have problems living by the precepts of Christianity as it seems to be primarily a philosophy rather than an actual way of daily life. I think people have problems when they separate the theory from actual experience and practice. I have no use for theory or philosophy myself as I think they're pretty useless for most people in the real world. It's the daily practices that matter.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-20   10:55:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Unfortunately at the Council of Nicaea and in times and places, Christianity was sterilized of truths inconvenient and distasteful to religious authorities.

Christianity has been made to uphold a concept of male dominated culture for example, and the Christian church would have us believe Christ didn't have a penis, or at least was so stunted emotionally he never had a wife or knew how to use his sexual equipment.

I was raised Catholic, but I never ever felt an affinity for Christianity. I always sensed there was something very central to it that had been gutted from it, and it was a deeply profound relief to not let it be a bother to me anymore when I broke from it at around age thirteen.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-05-20   11:03:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Personally I view Christ in context with the Old Testament - he was a Jew, after all, and pretty much followed the standard Jewish practices (as far as I know), but he wasn't a fanatic. I can't get too excited about religion in general. I prefer to follow the OT to the extent that I can, while believing that Jesus is the best manifestation of man that we can expect. I think the OT is based on the actual collective experiences and wisdom of a real group of people over centuries, and that's why I believe in it. I figure, what other people have survived (aside from stone age people in rain forests) as long as the Jews? The OT, being based on the real value of experience and what is best for a community (note, I say "community" - not individual), is to me, the best blueprint devised for humanity's successful continuation. I think the survival of the Jewish people proves that. I believe in the value of experience rather than anything that someone "dreams" up (hope I'm explaining that adequately). I have a very strong dislike of theories that don't have a basis in long term observation and practical experience. I am extremely cynical and doubting of new beliefs or revelations.

That said, I would never say that any particular group is going to Hell, as that's a decision that God will make alone on his own terms. It's not for me to say. There are people I THINK will be going to hell, such as Hitler or Stalin or Mao, or George Bush and most of his administration, but that's just my personal opinion of how evil they all are and what they deserve.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   12:34:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That said, I would never say that any particular group is going to Hell, as that's a decision that God will make alone on his own terms.

Jesus clearly said he is the only way to heaven. CLEARLY.

I agree that you shouldn't say this individual or that one is going to hell. Who knows they may wake up and accept christ someday.

But jesus wouldn't want us to say no everything is ok you don't have to believe in Christ. Everyone goes to heaven. That is a disservice. Just speak the truth. Jesus said people would hate Christians and that the world hated him first. So being the minority is good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   12:40:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, Stone, people are gonna believe what they want to believe. Personally I prefer to believe in the tried and true, but that's me. I don't want to beat people over the head with religion, as frankly - that just turns them against it. Everyone has to come to God in their own way, or they won't come to him at all.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   12:44:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't want to beat people over the head with religion, as frankly - that just turns them against it.

The love of God is what draws people to Him.. that love is expressed through His people.. the only God/Jesus that they'll see..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-21   12:47:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I agree. And I think you can explain what you believe, and why you believe it, and maybe someone might agree with you or become curious - or not. But I don't think it works to try to scare people into religion or to just tell them they're going to hell. That just makes people angry and upset at you. It doesn't change their hearts and mind. Jesus won people over because of his behavior and his way of dealing with people. They could just look at him and KNOW he was different from all the other guys. That's what we should do - teach people by our example,and tell them what we believe, and if they accept it - fine. If they don't, they have to go their own ways and figure it out for themselves.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   12:51:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

But I don't think it works to try to scare people into religion or to just tell them they're going to hell. That just makes people angry and upset at you. It doesn't change their hearts and mind. Jesus won people over because of his behavior and his way of dealing with people. They could just look at him and KNOW he was different from all the other guys. That's what we should do - teach people by our example,and tell them what we believe, and if they accept it - fine. If they don't, they have to go their own ways and figure it out for themselves.

Yeah we should say wiccans are love they will go to heaven just like all the other satanists. lol

CALL A SPADE A SPADE!

They are satanists to the core.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   12:53:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This is still going on??

Do you think that God loves Wiccans less than you?

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2006-05-21   12:57:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you think that God loves Wiccans less than you?

God loves everyone. However some people are going to hell. If the wiccans dont turn from their satanist ways and accept christ. They will go to Hell.

Do you think a wiccan can be a christian too?

Is anyone going to Hell or are we all going to heaven?

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   12:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Is anyone going to Hell or are we all going to heaven?

I do not pretend to have a direct link to the Almighty. He is who decides whose name is in the Book of Life, I do not think my self haughty or self-important enough to even veture a guess.

I personally do not know enough about the Wiccan faith to answer your other question.

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2006-05-21   13:05:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I personally do not know enough about the Wiccan faith to answer your other question.

You don't have to know that much about it. They worship someone other than Jesus. jesus said he is the only way. It is not that hard.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   13:06:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I guess for me the bottom line is personal responsibility. These folks know what the Bible is and who Jesus is, and if they don't want to believe in him, that's their business. If they're going to hell, that's not up to me, and that's a risk that's apparently acceptable to them. It's their choice. I don't see how you're going to change anyone's mind about that.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   13:11:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I guess for me the bottom line is personal responsibility. These folks know what the Bible is and who Jesus is, and if they don't want to believe in him, that's their business. If they're going to hell, that's not up to me, and that's a risk that's apparently acceptable to them. It's their choice. I don't see how you're going to change anyone's mind about that.

I was just trying to say wiccans are satanists, which they are.

A lot of the debate was also on the role of the supreme court. Where do you fall on that subject.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   13:12:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

First off, Wiccans are not satanists. Those are two different things entirely. I've met a lot of Wiccans, and they're generally very nice people. I don't have anything bad to say about them. They don't believe in Satan or the Devil and they don't do any evil rites, like human or animal sacrifice. Generally they believe that you have to take responsbility for what you do and think, as it will come back at you, three times (at least). They believe in nature and worshop nature spirits and such.

Satanists are basically anti-Christians, who just twist Christianity around and are really angry, screwed up people who live hedonistic and selfish lives and like to hurt others as they somehow think this gives them power from Satan. Why on earth anyone would want to be a Satanist is totally beyond me.

As for the Supreme Court - well, I haven't followed this whole thread so I'm not sure what the basic argument is. We have a separation of church and state, of course. The government cannot establish any specific religion (like the Church of England). However, I see nothing wrong with the government recognizing that the overwhelming majority of people observe a certain religion or tradition and taking that into consideration for public affairs or holidays, etc. That's why we have a public holiday of Christmas - because very few Christians would be willing to work that day. It's a public, govt, recognition of a social reality. I always believe in recognizing reality.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   13:18:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

We have a separation of church and state,

No we don't. Can you please show me that in the constitution.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   13:25:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Okay - that was easy:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   13:27:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

They key word their is congress. Doesn't mention the state governments. The federal govt only has those powers delegated to it. So congress is to keep their hands off religion.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   13:28:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I thought you were discussing the federal government as you mentioned the Supreme Court. I suppose a state could establish a religion and several did during the Colonial and Post-Revolutionary days, but I really don't think considering the strength of the Federal government and ascendancy of the feds over the states, that such a thing would be allowed now. But it could be argued.

I assume you're saying that states SHOULD establish an official religion, presumably Christianity? and which denomination would they pick?

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   13:31:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#213. To: mehitable (#212)

I thought you were discussing the federal government as you mentioned the Supreme Court. I suppose a state could establish a religion and several did during the Colonial and Post-Revolutionary days, but I really don't think considering the strength of the Federal government and ascendancy of the feds over the states, that such a thing would be allowed now. But it could be argued.

Pandora, some dead indian, and ferret mike, all think that the supreme court is the final arbitrator and that is constitutional. lol.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21 13:32:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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