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Title: The Nine Principles of the Goddess
Source: Sacred Texts
URL Source: http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/bog/bog02.htm
Published: May 20, 2006
Author: Unknown
Post Date: 2006-05-20 02:25:01 by Pandora
Keywords: None
Views: 21859
Comments: 271

Here is an interesting philosophy. I've always liked this:

The Nine Principles of the Goddess

1. I acknowledge that there is one Goddess in essence, Creatrix of all existences; Her forms are infinite, She manifests Herself in our love, and we are all Her lovers.

2. Treat all beings with reciprocity, for the Goddess lives in them as well as in us.

3. Tolerate other religions and do not compel others to join the circle of the Goddess: the Goddess will draw those to Her who are ready and hear Her call.

4. Worship Her by restoring balance to Her planet.

5. Eat mostly grains, vegetables and fruits, so that there will be enough food for all; when you eat thank the Goddess, the provider of all energy. It is not forbidden to eat animal flesh in moderation, but when you do so you must thank the animal that you eat as well.

6. In the circle of the Goddess create consensus while respecting diversity of opinion. On the path of the Goddess there are many paths.

7. In your home create a sacred space for the Goddess to please Her. Meditate on the Goddess three times a day, at rising, at noon and at sundown.

8. Sexuality is Her sacrament; enjoy this gift and bless those who you share it with love and affection. Remember that overcoming jealousy is the cause of cessation of the cycle of rebirth.

9. Announce the religion of the Goddess to the world through good works, honest words and selfless acts of beauty and love.

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#218. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#217)

You originally made an unqualified claim that states had the power to establish a state religion. Pandora kicked you in the balls by posting the relevant quote that showed they did not.

They do, and have had them. lol your so uninformed

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#217)

You then asked her to show you where the Supreme Court had the authority to make such a ruling. She did, she referenced Maybury vs Madison and told you it was explained there. It is - that is the controlling case. You refused to look at it or discuss it.

She showed me no where in the constitution for that power. You are a liar. I already know what marbury vs madison was. It is a usurption. So you should be to show me where they have that power delegated to them. Not when they gave themselves undelegated power in that power grab of a decision. YOu are not being honest. You still havent found where they get lawful power from. You are with the usurpers.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#217)

You then morphed your claim to say that if the world worked the way you would like it to work, your claim regarding state religions would then be true.

Show me where I said that liar. If it is there it shoud be real easy to do. But it is not. You are a proven liar.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#217)

In this current post you try to dodge this other stuff further up on the thread. The problem you face is that this stuff is all there on the thread for the whole world to see. They can judge for themselves.

I didn't dodge anything. They did decide for themselves, christine, jethro, methinkable all agree that it was a usurption.

The first amendment forbids CONGRESS....you are making stuff up to say it forbids governors. Taken with the 10th amendment(do you know what that is) the case is clear. States can have a state religion if they so desire.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: A K A Stone (#218)

They do, and have had them. lol your so uninformed

No answer huh?

Didn't think so.

I guess the Supreme Court really does know what they are talking about - and your unsupported statement here is pure crap.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: A K A Stone (#220)

You then morphed your claim to say that if the world worked the way you would like it to work, your claim regarding state religions would then be true.

Show me where I said that liar.

See posts 63 and 78 above.

Buy you know that don't you.

But we might as well put them here for everyone else to see.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: A K A Stone (#221)

I didn't dodge anything. They did decide for themselves, christine, jethro, methinkable all agree that it was a usurption.

You are saying that if the law was the way you would like it to be, then you would be correct in your assertions.

OK.

Pandora was right. You are making a silly dodge to save face.

It is a lot different from your first unqualified claim that the States have a right to found a state religion isn't it?

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#223)

#63. To: Pandora (#60)

Use google and find a case called Marbury vs. Madison

Yes the first usurption. Just because it happened long ago and set a precedent doesn't mean it is the law.

Get back to the root.

The constitution. If a law conflicts with it, no matter what some guy in a robe( who isn't really a citizen according to THE REAL 13th AMENDMENT) tells you. Use your own mind...the words have meaning. Dont let some judge steal your rights.

FUCK THE GOVERNMENT

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-21 10:53:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #64. To: Ferret Mike (#62)

Don't yell at me with capital letters. Keep it civil. Making wrong statements louder simply does not make them right.

Caps is to highlight it. It is not yelling. That is some gay aol saying.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-21 10:53:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #65. To: A K A Stone (#57)

Christ said he would come back to bring a sword

Stone, did you ever consider founding a "Hate for Jesus" ministry?

You and all the other hate filled, bigoted religions kooks could sit around and tell each other how God wanted you to torure heritics.

It would be a big hit in fundie circles.

Anonymous Dead Indian posted on 2006-05-21 10:55:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #66. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#61)

So instead of allowing Him to do as He said He would, you have decided to do it for Him?

So tell me, how many souls have you won for our Lord with your tactics?

God said to preach the whole word...not some sugar coating of the word like saying the garden of eden is fiction. Guess what Hell and witches are in the Bible. Guess what God said they are going to hell. If you want to help someone you would inform them of it instead of letting them go to the dark side. Take a stand. Jesus said those who were luke warm would be spit out of his mouth. Me im red hot.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-21 10:55:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #67. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#65)

You and all the other hate filled, bigoted religions kooks could sit around and tell each other how God wanted you to torure heritics.

It would be a big hit in fundie circles.

You are misrepresenting what I said. Where did I say to torture anyone. that is what Bush is for not me.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-21 10:56:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #68. To: Pandora (#60)

"Use google and find a case called Marbury vs. Madison. This will explain it to you. I don't have time to explain high school civics here."

This guy is too much. He is assuming that the Constitution was adopted to make worse the problems maintaining the political and social cohesion of this nation the Articles of Confederation were causing in the several states.

I doubt of he has the tools to understand how case law - Stare Decisis - works; never mind understand the decision you cite - Marbury vs. Madison - and why it is a cornerstone decision of the U.S. Supreme Court.

Nice try though.

Ferret Mike posted on 2006-05-21 10:56:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #69. To: Ferret Mike (#68)

I doubt of he has the tools to understand how case law

You are such an ass.

Show me in the constitution where it says law is determined by who has the best lawyer and how some case comes out. NOW COME ON THAT IS ASSININE.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-21 10:58:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #70. To: Ferret Mike (#68)

So you think case law trumps the constitution. Of commie.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-21 10:59:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #71. To: A K A Stone (#66)

Take a stand. Jesus said those who were luke warm would be spit out of his mouth. Me im red hot.

You can be red hot AND dead wrong at the same time - but I think deep down you know this.

How many souls have you won for Christ?

CAPPSMADNESS posted on 2006-05-21 11:00:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #72. To: A K A Stone (#67)

Where did I say to torture anyone. that is what Bush is for not me.

On this thread you seemed to delight in someone being burned at the stake. I would have to comb through threads for other instances and I don't want to waste my time doing that.

But how can you be a rapture monkey and not want to hurt those who don't agree with your silly, narrow view? Doesn't this come with the territory? How does the Taliban handle disagreement? How would your theocracy handle it? How did Cotton Mather handle it?

Anonymous Dead Indian posted on 2006-05-21 11:00:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #73. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#71)

You can be red hot AND dead wrong at the same time - but I think deep down you know this.

How many souls have you won for Christ?

Yes you can be red hot and wrong....

I don't know how many souls I won. I thought faith came by hearing the word.

How many have you won?

How many have you lead astray by claiming Genesis is not true?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-21 11:02:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #74. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#72)

"How did Cotton Mather handle it?"

Heh, he likely believes Cotton Mather is a device invented by Eli Whitney to efficiently and quickly remove seeds from fresh picked cotton, and that the cotton gin was a judge who hung people who denied they were witches in Salem, Massachusetts. ;-)

Ferret Mike posted on 2006-05-21 11:04:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #75. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#72)

On this thread you seemed to delight in someone being burned at the stake. I would have to comb through threads for other instances and I don't want to waste my time doing that.

But how can you be a rapture monkey and not want to hurt those who don't agree with your silly, narrow view? Doesn't this come with the territory? How does the Taliban handle disagreement? How would your theocracy handle it? How did Cotton Mather handle it?

I said that in times past some of these witches would have been burnt at the stake. That is a fact it happened, i neither condemed or encouraged it, i just stated a fact.

Rapture monkey? I don't believe in a rapture.

What people do is mix the "rapture" in with the second coming.

Make two doctrines out of one.

I believe in the second coming.

I wouldn't believe to much propaganda against the Taliban. 911 was an inside job.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-21 11:04:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #76. To: Ferret Mike (#74)

Why do you hate Jesus? He gave his life freely so you could have life.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-21 11:06:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #77. To: zipporah (#0)

Do you think wiccans have their root in satanism?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-21 11:06:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #78. To: A K A Stone (#63)

The constitution. If a law conflicts with it, no matter what some guy in a robe( who isn't really a citizen according to THE REAL 13th AMENDMENT) tells you. Use your own mind...the words have meaning. Dont let some judge steal your rights.

FUCK THE GOVERNMENT

I told you that the US Contstitution, as it has been understood by the US Supreme Court for over a century, does not allow the states to set up a state religion. In fact, it never allowed this. I presented both the case where this interpretation is made and the case that allows the Supreme Court to make this interpretation.

You are now arguing that if the United States Government went away, the States could then set up a state religion.

Do you realize how silly you sound when you back track this way?

Pandora posted on 2006-05-21 11:07:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#224)

You are saying that if the law was the way you would like it to be, then you would be correct in your assertions.

OK.

The constitution is the law. Didn't you know that.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: A K A Stone (#225)

Yes the first usurption. Just because it happened long ago and set a precedent doesn't mean it is the law.

Yup.

If the world was the way you wanted it to be, you would be correct here.

Otherwise it looks like Pandora knows what she is talking about and she is correct.

Given that we must deal with reality as it is, and not as you would prefer it to be, I will go with Pandora.

Incidentally, throwing a tantrum to obscure your error just makes you look like a ninney.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#222)

I guess the Supreme Court really does know what they are talking about - and your unsupported statement here is pure crap.

In other words you can't find the power given to the supreme court by the states.

In other words you can't find it in the constitution. So you just take the usurpers word for it. Find it in the constitution or it is not valid. You really aren't that bright are you.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: A K A Stone (#226)

The constitution is the law. Didn't you know that.

So is the rest of the body of law. Didn't you know that?

Read Maybury vs Madison, or take civics 101 and it will be explained to you.

You can't pick and chose which laws you like and you can't operate in the fatasy world in your head where everything is the way you would like it to be.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:38:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: A K A Stone (#228)

In other words you can't find the power given to the supreme court by the states.

Sure I can. And so can you. We told you where to look.

You are now doing is begging the question to obfuscate your error. It is a common tactic of loons when they get their asses kicked.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#227)

Yup.

If the world was the way you wanted it to be, you would be correct here.

Otherwise it looks like Pandora knows what she is talking about and she is correct.

Given that we must deal with reality as it is, and not as you would prefer it to be, I will go with Pandora.

Incidentally, throwing a tantrum to obscure your error just makes you look like a ninney.

I know in reality the supremes are usurpers and have the REAL power right now to decide cases. I never argued that. Im just saying that it isn't really the law as that power was never granted them under the constitution. And that if there is any justice ALL of those decisions that they made would be struck down.

Also do you know anything about the real (missing) 13th amendment>?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#229)

The constitution is the law. Didn't you know that.

So is the rest of the body of law. Didn't you know that?

actually if the congress enacts a law and it isn't constitutionally based it isn't really a law and we have no obligation to follow it.

Ever heard of color of law......why do they have that term if everything congress passes is the law.

You need to throw out all the garbage the government propaganda schools "taught" (more like brainwahed) you into thinking.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: A K A Stone (#231)

I know in reality the supremes are usurpers and have the REAL power right now to decide cases. I never argued that. Im just saying that it isn't really the law as that power was never granted them under the constitution. And that if there is any justice ALL of those decisions that they made would be struck down.

What you keep saying over, and over, and over, and over is that if the world was they way you wanted it to be, then you would be right.

Yawn.

As Pandora pointed out to you, that is a silly position.

I would go one further and say you are now being idiotic.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#230)

Sure I can. And so can you. We told you where to look.

From the supreme law of the land. You seem incabable of grasping a very simple constititional concept. If it violates the constitution it isn't a law. The lawbreakers in marbury vs madison dont have the power to replace the constitution. Only because idiots like you went along with it did it take root. You are part of the problem and not the solution.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: A K A Stone (#232)

actually if the congress enacts a law and it isn't constitutionally based it isn't really a law and we have no obligation to follow it.

Ever heard of color of law......why do they have that term if everything congress passes is the law.

OK, I give.

If the world was the way it exists in your bigoted little head, then you would be correct.

Otherwise, when we are dealing with reality, when we are dealing with the way things really are, you are dead wrong. You have to relevant quotes on the thread above to prove this to yourself.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#233)

You have proven yourself stupid (not ignorant) several times. When you get your GED come back and debate with the big boys.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: A K A Stone (#234)

From the supreme law of the land. You seem incabable of grasping a very simple constititional concept. If it violates the constitution it isn't a law.

Stone, you are making a mornonic argument that your interpretation of the Constitution differs from that of the Supreme Court.

Ok, fine. If the world was the way it exists in your bigoted little head, you would be correct.

Otherwise - in the real world - they are the Supreme Court who has the unchallenged power to decide the matter and you are some silly dick on the internet.

But go ahead and tell us how you would like things to be.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: A K A Stone (#234)

From the supreme law of the land.

Show me a law that doesn't have to be interpreted and I will show you a country without courts.

It only exists in your bigoted little mind.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#239. To: A K A Stone (#232)

actually if the congress enacts a law and it isn't constitutionally based it isn't really a law and we have no obligation to follow it.

And who decides this loon?

Maybe the Supreme Court? I mean, that is the articulated purpose of this court.

Thank you for making my point.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#240. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#239)

Maybe the Supreme Court? I mean, that is the articulated purpose of this court.

Show me the constitutional authority. You can't because it isn't there you federal propagandist.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   14:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: A K A Stone (#240)

Show me the constitutional authority. You can't because it isn't there you federal propagandist.

We did. Many, many, many, many times on this thread.

You refused to look.

What you are doing is begging the question to obfuscate your error and save face.

Anonymous Dead Indian  posted on  2006-05-21   14:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#242. To: Anonymous Dead Indian (#241)

LIAR LIAR YOUR PANTS ARE ON FIRE. YOU SHOW ME THE USURPTION. YOU CANT SHOW ONE QUOTE FROM THE CONSTITUTION. YOU ENEMY OF THE CONSTITUTION YOU!!!

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   15:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#243. To: Pandora, A K A Stone (#32)

The concept of a goddess is a satanist witch philisophy.

No it's not.

Yes it is Pandora. There is only one way to heaven and it is through Jesus the Son of God. There is only one alternative to Jesus, Satan and everlasting hell, there is no other alternative period, as much as you or anyone else wants there to be one, there isn't.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-24   3:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#244. To: Zipporah (#117)

No its not a satanist cult

If it is not in your opinion , then what would you say it is?

Any religion that does not acknowledge Jesus as the Son of God and savior of the world is a religion that has the spirit of anti-Christ. Any religion that has the spirit of anti-Christ is a religion that has its roots with the father of all lies, which is Satan.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-24   3:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#245. To: mehitable (#202)

First off, Wiccans are not satanists. Those are two different things entirely. I've met a lot of Wiccans, and they're generally very nice people.

This is just not true; you are being deceived by the outward appearance of "nice" people. BTW, you can be one of the nicest individuals in the whole world and still go to hell, rejecting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior is the unforgivable sin, and all who do it will go to hell.

Satan is the one who started the big lie that he doesn't exist, those that believe that lie are already his followers whether they know it or not.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-24   3:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: RickyJ (#244)

If it is not in your opinion , then what would you say it is?

Any religion that does not acknowledge Jesus as the Son of God and savior of the world is a religion that has the spirit of anti-Christ. Any religion that has the spirit of anti-Christ is a religion that has its roots with the father of all lies, which is Satan.

The way he depicted it was that they were true satanists.. and the issue here wasnt religious discussion whatsoever it was to disrupt.. I agree with the scripture.. if you're not for me you're against me..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-24   5:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: Zipporah (#246)

I can't believe how this thread has grown! I think last I saw it was up to around 80 something posts.

Diana  posted on  2006-05-24   5:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: Diana (#247)

I can't believe how this thread has grown! I think last I saw it was up to around 80 something posts.

Funny how sock puppets do manage to catch people's attention..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-24   5:35:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: RickyJ (#245)

"YOU WILL ACCEPT ME AND LOVE ME, MAKE ME NUMBER ONE IN YOUR LIFE OR ELSE I WILL THROW YOU DOWN INTO HELL FOR ETERNITY TO BE TORTURED FOREVER AND EVER!!"

What a way to win a person over. Nice.

Oops, I forgot, nice doesn't mean much to radicals.

Diana  posted on  2006-05-24   6:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: RickyJ (#245)

"BOIL THEIR ASSES IN OIL!!!"

Ahhh... memories from the Crusades!

Diana  posted on  2006-05-24   6:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: RickyJ (#245)

Ricky, that's just silly. They ARE among the nicest people I've met - that's not just some fake facade they adopt. I've generally found them responsible for themselves and others and caring about how they live. Frankly, I've found them much nicer than many people who call themselves Christians. I'm not going to beat up on people just because they haven't found Christ. They are adults, they know how to read, they've grown up in a Christian culture - if it doesn' work for them or appeal to them, or they just outright reject Christianity, that is their business. I don't condemn anyone to hell for not believing as I do, that is the business of God. My business is to be as nice and kind to people as I can during this life, and do my best not to injure others. I fail frequently, but that's the goal.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-24   10:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: Diana (#249)

Hell is a real place and God puts no one there, people choose hell if they reject Jesus for their whole lives after they have heard the good news of forgiveness of sins and eternal life with God in Heaven. To pretend there is no hell, is a mistake. People need to know that there is such a very bad place while they are still on Earth so they can have a chance to avoid it.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-25   13:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: Diana (#250)

"BOIL THEIR ASSES IN OIL!!!"

Ahhh... memories from the Crusades!

I am praying for you.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-25   13:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: mehitable (#251)

I don't condemn anyone to hell for not believing as I do, that is the business of God.

To not warn your friends and enemies for that matter about hell is mistake. Jesus certainly did warn people about eteranl hell.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-25   13:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: RickyJ (#254)

I think they're all aware of the concept. What actually happens when we tell people that they're going to hell if they don't believe as we do, is that they get angry and upset and just don't listen to us anymore. It's not an effective strategy. The best way of getting people to belief in Christ, or anything, is by providing a good example, and trying to live as He would. Then people figure you must have something good going on, and they want to find out about it.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-25   13:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: mehitable (#255)

Quite a bit of truth to what you say about how Evangelicals alienate.

Working at Saturday Market in Portland on the Friday night set-up a young man offered me a sack lunch as a Christian group does in that part of town where the words 'skid row' were first coined.

He didn't take no for an answer responded to my comment I was at work and didn't wish to be bothered when he kept pressuring me to take the bag by starting to 'witness his faith.'

He's lucky Mr. Brown bag didn't end up ensconced in his rectal orifice.

Whether is is trying to enjoy a beautiful Summer day in Pioneer Park despite the screeching of a thumper complete with an entourage of goons to harass any hecklers, trying to get one particular group there from censoring free periodicals from their assigned cubby holes in places there that have them, or trying to deal with any other example of in your face activity, it is annoying and deeply alienating what some of these characters do.

People should not let their ego push them to the point they anger people to push back, because in the end they and their message will be discredited by many members of the community at large.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-05-25   14:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: RickyJ (#253)

I am praying for you.

Thankyou.

Diana  posted on  2006-05-26   3:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: RickyJ (#252)

Hell is a real place and God puts no one there, people choose hell if they reject Jesus for their whole lives after they have heard the good news of forgiveness of sins and eternal life with God in Heaven. To pretend there is no hell, is a mistake. People need to know that there is such a very bad place while they are still on Earth so they can have a chance to avoid it.

Here's a question that begs to be asked.

Why does God need me to worship him?

Why would God give people only 2 choices? Worship him, or infernal damnation? Having a choice like that, is the same as having NO CHOICE.

That totally negates FREE WILL RIGHT???

Oh but hell, this isn't about right or wrong, good or bad, this is about making sure that people continue to believe the lies put forth by people who sought to replace God in the first place.

Every chapter, every word is a lie.

Why would God need my praise? I mean, after all, he's God. Like he needs to hear an Atta Boy, or Way to go. I can understand he would appreciate a thank you now and again, but what with traffic in this town, I'm sure he hears plenty of that.

Then there's the whole sex thing, which I'm sure he knows full well the bang up job he did in that arena, just as I'm sure he's heard all the disappointment.

So, again, why would God need a bunch of talking monkeys to sing his praises, kill in his name, pay tithe and tribute to his talking monkey representatives, obey the most corrupt and vile leaders that God himself appoints over us, and of course, my favorite, allow so many other wannabe Christian faiths to pop up that could encroach on his monopoly of planet Tard?

Do you know for a fact that there is a hell? More importantly, do you know for a fact that there's a heaven?

Why would someone want to go to Heaven, to be God's indentured slave, after having had a shitty life on earth? No really, there are people every day who suffer needlessly, and when they die, if they go to heaven, they get the job of tending God's vineyards, or doing God's Laundry. Think about it for a minute. Does that sound like heaven? To be so happy to do laundry, or pick grapes? NO, it should sound absurd. How about Brave New World kind of absurd?

Oh... and Hell? Do you think that all the bad people go to hell? Do you think Hitler is rotting in hell right now? Well according to popular Bible Belief, all you have to do is praise Jesus and accept him as your personal savior before you die, and guess what? YOU GET OUT OF HELL FREE CARD.

So you got people like Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Adolf Hitler, Josef Goebbels, and I'm willing to bet a LOT of Nazis are in heaven because after all, their idea of hell would be surrounded by Jews, and having to do Jesus's underwear.

You know, when I die, I'm pretty sure that God's gift of Free Will, probably extends past my life, and would allow me to run wild in the universe exploring. I mean, he did after all make this GIGANTIC cosmos. Do you think he would make such a big place, and love only ONE planet? Why create only ONE planet that he could love, and put his heart into, when it's so full of narrow minded morons who seek only to aggrandize themselves by believing the falsehood that their God, or their club is mightier than someone else's when God has created every human being in his image, and with equality in mind.

So, with all that said Ricky, I know I'm not going to convince you that what I'm saying is right. What I'm saying is that not everyone who chooses Jesus goes to heaven, and not every devil ends up in hell. God doesn't play favorites, because everyone serves a purpose in his grand design.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-26   4:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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