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Title: The Nine Principles of the Goddess
Source: Sacred Texts
URL Source: http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/bog/bog02.htm
Published: May 20, 2006
Author: Unknown
Post Date: 2006-05-20 02:25:01 by Pandora
Keywords: None
Views: 21484
Comments: 271

Here is an interesting philosophy. I've always liked this:

The Nine Principles of the Goddess

1. I acknowledge that there is one Goddess in essence, Creatrix of all existences; Her forms are infinite, She manifests Herself in our love, and we are all Her lovers.

2. Treat all beings with reciprocity, for the Goddess lives in them as well as in us.

3. Tolerate other religions and do not compel others to join the circle of the Goddess: the Goddess will draw those to Her who are ready and hear Her call.

4. Worship Her by restoring balance to Her planet.

5. Eat mostly grains, vegetables and fruits, so that there will be enough food for all; when you eat thank the Goddess, the provider of all energy. It is not forbidden to eat animal flesh in moderation, but when you do so you must thank the animal that you eat as well.

6. In the circle of the Goddess create consensus while respecting diversity of opinion. On the path of the Goddess there are many paths.

7. In your home create a sacred space for the Goddess to please Her. Meditate on the Goddess three times a day, at rising, at noon and at sundown.

8. Sexuality is Her sacrament; enjoy this gift and bless those who you share it with love and affection. Remember that overcoming jealousy is the cause of cessation of the cycle of rebirth.

9. Announce the religion of the Goddess to the world through good works, honest words and selfless acts of beauty and love.

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#8. To: Pandora (#0)

Sexuality is Her sacrament; enjoy this gift and bless those who you share it with love and affection. Remember that overcoming jealousy is the cause of cessation of the cycle of rebirth.

Wife-swapping as the path to spiritual enlightenment and liberation, heh.

These things are generally made up by deceitful people, and it shows in the disjointed construction of the "philosophy."

For example, principle number one is phrased in the first person, as if this were some oath for one to recite. But then the rest are phrased in the second person, as directives or commands.

I see this disjointed incoherence in most religions, but most blatantly and commonly in neopagan constructs.

Number nine, of course, convicts the author, as those words are dishonest and self-serving, and because propagating fraud into the collective consciousness is a spiteful, ugly thing to do and an all-in-all bad work.

Even the Book of Runes now contains a preface which acknowledges that the "meaning" of each rune was made up by the author. I think that if people who make these things up would make sure that there is a footnote or preface or something like that which informs the reader of the fictitious nature of the writings, then they might avoid the contempt of those who care about truth.

Somebody just make some shit up and pretend it's some ancient religion, they have a serious smack-down coming to 'em, IMO. Steering people wrong in life.

Rabble Rouser  posted on  2006-05-20   10:43:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The problem with these new religions is that they are not based on experience. What people fail to consider about the Bible is that the rules of the Old Testament - which Jesus also lived by and which formed the framework for his life and ministry - were created out of the actual experiences of a community of people over a period of hundreds, if not thousands of years. That's why the Bible is still referred to and the Jews are still a living people. The importance of the Bible is not so much any kind of philosophical constructs that may come through in some verses or chapters, but in the actual laws, prohibitions, restrictions, and duties that it asserts.

Anyone can create some religion and say that we should all love each other, not hurt animals, not be jealous, etc, but the problem is that very few will live by those precepts. So many Christians have problems living by the precepts of Christianity as it seems to be primarily a philosophy rather than an actual way of daily life. I think people have problems when they separate the theory from actual experience and practice. I have no use for theory or philosophy myself as I think they're pretty useless for most people in the real world. It's the daily practices that matter.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-20   10:55:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Unfortunately at the Council of Nicaea and in times and places, Christianity was sterilized of truths inconvenient and distasteful to religious authorities.

Christianity has been made to uphold a concept of male dominated culture for example, and the Christian church would have us believe Christ didn't have a penis, or at least was so stunted emotionally he never had a wife or knew how to use his sexual equipment.

I was raised Catholic, but I never ever felt an affinity for Christianity. I always sensed there was something very central to it that had been gutted from it, and it was a deeply profound relief to not let it be a bother to me anymore when I broke from it at around age thirteen.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-05-20   11:03:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Personally I view Christ in context with the Old Testament - he was a Jew, after all, and pretty much followed the standard Jewish practices (as far as I know), but he wasn't a fanatic. I can't get too excited about religion in general. I prefer to follow the OT to the extent that I can, while believing that Jesus is the best manifestation of man that we can expect. I think the OT is based on the actual collective experiences and wisdom of a real group of people over centuries, and that's why I believe in it. I figure, what other people have survived (aside from stone age people in rain forests) as long as the Jews? The OT, being based on the real value of experience and what is best for a community (note, I say "community" - not individual), is to me, the best blueprint devised for humanity's successful continuation. I think the survival of the Jewish people proves that. I believe in the value of experience rather than anything that someone "dreams" up (hope I'm explaining that adequately). I have a very strong dislike of theories that don't have a basis in long term observation and practical experience. I am extremely cynical and doubting of new beliefs or revelations.

That said, I would never say that any particular group is going to Hell, as that's a decision that God will make alone on his own terms. It's not for me to say. There are people I THINK will be going to hell, such as Hitler or Stalin or Mao, or George Bush and most of his administration, but that's just my personal opinion of how evil they all are and what they deserve.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   12:34:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That said, I would never say that any particular group is going to Hell, as that's a decision that God will make alone on his own terms.

Jesus clearly said he is the only way to heaven. CLEARLY.

I agree that you shouldn't say this individual or that one is going to hell. Who knows they may wake up and accept christ someday.

But jesus wouldn't want us to say no everything is ok you don't have to believe in Christ. Everyone goes to heaven. That is a disservice. Just speak the truth. Jesus said people would hate Christians and that the world hated him first. So being the minority is good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   12:40:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, Stone, people are gonna believe what they want to believe. Personally I prefer to believe in the tried and true, but that's me. I don't want to beat people over the head with religion, as frankly - that just turns them against it. Everyone has to come to God in their own way, or they won't come to him at all.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   12:44:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't want to beat people over the head with religion, as frankly - that just turns them against it.

The love of God is what draws people to Him.. that love is expressed through His people.. the only God/Jesus that they'll see..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-21   12:47:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I agree. And I think you can explain what you believe, and why you believe it, and maybe someone might agree with you or become curious - or not. But I don't think it works to try to scare people into religion or to just tell them they're going to hell. That just makes people angry and upset at you. It doesn't change their hearts and mind. Jesus won people over because of his behavior and his way of dealing with people. They could just look at him and KNOW he was different from all the other guys. That's what we should do - teach people by our example,and tell them what we believe, and if they accept it - fine. If they don't, they have to go their own ways and figure it out for themselves.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   12:51:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

But I don't think it works to try to scare people into religion or to just tell them they're going to hell. That just makes people angry and upset at you. It doesn't change their hearts and mind. Jesus won people over because of his behavior and his way of dealing with people. They could just look at him and KNOW he was different from all the other guys. That's what we should do - teach people by our example,and tell them what we believe, and if they accept it - fine. If they don't, they have to go their own ways and figure it out for themselves.

Yeah we should say wiccans are love they will go to heaven just like all the other satanists. lol

CALL A SPADE A SPADE!

They are satanists to the core.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   12:53:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This is still going on??

Do you think that God loves Wiccans less than you?

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2006-05-21   12:57:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you think that God loves Wiccans less than you?

God loves everyone. However some people are going to hell. If the wiccans dont turn from their satanist ways and accept christ. They will go to Hell.

Do you think a wiccan can be a christian too?

Is anyone going to Hell or are we all going to heaven?

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   12:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Is anyone going to Hell or are we all going to heaven?

I do not pretend to have a direct link to the Almighty. He is who decides whose name is in the Book of Life, I do not think my self haughty or self-important enough to even veture a guess.

I personally do not know enough about the Wiccan faith to answer your other question.

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2006-05-21   13:05:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I personally do not know enough about the Wiccan faith to answer your other question.

You don't have to know that much about it. They worship someone other than Jesus. jesus said he is the only way. It is not that hard.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   13:06:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I guess for me the bottom line is personal responsibility. These folks know what the Bible is and who Jesus is, and if they don't want to believe in him, that's their business. If they're going to hell, that's not up to me, and that's a risk that's apparently acceptable to them. It's their choice. I don't see how you're going to change anyone's mind about that.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   13:11:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I guess for me the bottom line is personal responsibility. These folks know what the Bible is and who Jesus is, and if they don't want to believe in him, that's their business. If they're going to hell, that's not up to me, and that's a risk that's apparently acceptable to them. It's their choice. I don't see how you're going to change anyone's mind about that.

I was just trying to say wiccans are satanists, which they are.

A lot of the debate was also on the role of the supreme court. Where do you fall on that subject.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-21   13:12:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

First off, Wiccans are not satanists. Those are two different things entirely. I've met a lot of Wiccans, and they're generally very nice people. I don't have anything bad to say about them. They don't believe in Satan or the Devil and they don't do any evil rites, like human or animal sacrifice. Generally they believe that you have to take responsbility for what you do and think, as it will come back at you, three times (at least). They believe in nature and worshop nature spirits and such.

Satanists are basically anti-Christians, who just twist Christianity around and are really angry, screwed up people who live hedonistic and selfish lives and like to hurt others as they somehow think this gives them power from Satan. Why on earth anyone would want to be a Satanist is totally beyond me.

As for the Supreme Court - well, I haven't followed this whole thread so I'm not sure what the basic argument is. We have a separation of church and state, of course. The government cannot establish any specific religion (like the Church of England). However, I see nothing wrong with the government recognizing that the overwhelming majority of people observe a certain religion or tradition and taking that into consideration for public affairs or holidays, etc. That's why we have a public holiday of Christmas - because very few Christians would be willing to work that day. It's a public, govt, recognition of a social reality. I always believe in recognizing reality.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-21   13:18:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

First off, Wiccans are not satanists. Those are two different things entirely. I've met a lot of Wiccans, and they're generally very nice people.

This is just not true; you are being deceived by the outward appearance of "nice" people. BTW, you can be one of the nicest individuals in the whole world and still go to hell, rejecting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior is the unforgivable sin, and all who do it will go to hell.

Satan is the one who started the big lie that he doesn't exist, those that believe that lie are already his followers whether they know it or not.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-24   3:40:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Ricky, that's just silly. They ARE among the nicest people I've met - that's not just some fake facade they adopt. I've generally found them responsible for themselves and others and caring about how they live. Frankly, I've found them much nicer than many people who call themselves Christians. I'm not going to beat up on people just because they haven't found Christ. They are adults, they know how to read, they've grown up in a Christian culture - if it doesn' work for them or appeal to them, or they just outright reject Christianity, that is their business. I don't condemn anyone to hell for not believing as I do, that is the business of God. My business is to be as nice and kind to people as I can during this life, and do my best not to injure others. I fail frequently, but that's the goal.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-24   10:51:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't condemn anyone to hell for not believing as I do, that is the business of God.

To not warn your friends and enemies for that matter about hell is mistake. Jesus certainly did warn people about eteranl hell.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-25   13:37:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think they're all aware of the concept. What actually happens when we tell people that they're going to hell if they don't believe as we do, is that they get angry and upset and just don't listen to us anymore. It's not an effective strategy. The best way of getting people to belief in Christ, or anything, is by providing a good example, and trying to live as He would. Then people figure you must have something good going on, and they want to find out about it.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-25   13:44:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Quite a bit of truth to what you say about how Evangelicals alienate.

Working at Saturday Market in Portland on the Friday night set-up a young man offered me a sack lunch as a Christian group does in that part of town where the words 'skid row' were first coined.

He didn't take no for an answer responded to my comment I was at work and didn't wish to be bothered when he kept pressuring me to take the bag by starting to 'witness his faith.'

He's lucky Mr. Brown bag didn't end up ensconced in his rectal orifice.

Whether is is trying to enjoy a beautiful Summer day in Pioneer Park despite the screeching of a thumper complete with an entourage of goons to harass any hecklers, trying to get one particular group there from censoring free periodicals from their assigned cubby holes in places there that have them, or trying to deal with any other example of in your face activity, it is annoying and deeply alienating what some of these characters do.

People should not let their ego push them to the point they anger people to push back, because in the end they and their message will be discredited by many members of the community at large.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-05-25   14:07:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I've had personal experience with this. There was a group of young evangelicals - Mormons I believe (who have a strong missionary tradition) who were plying the local bus routes. I had a couple of them sit next to me on the bus in a way that I couldn't get out easily - one on my side and one in front of me - and at first they just tried to be chummy and friendly and then BOOM alongs comes the religious pitch. Well, no offense to them, but I'm not interested in their religion, so I said no, but they kept asking me questions and finally I just had to get rude and tell them I was NOT interested in what they had to say and I wanted them to leave me alone.

This kind of behavior is insulting and rude to people, and really obnoxious. I actually am a Christian (a pretty poor one, I admit) but I was offended by their behavior and I can only imagine what people must think who are not even Christians. We really have to be aware of how we come across to other people and treat them with respect even if we disagree. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

I don't object to someone passing out flyers or even preaching in certain areas, but there are limits to everything.

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-26   10:06:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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