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Title: The Nine Principles of the Goddess
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Published: May 20, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-05-20 02:25:01 by Pandora
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Here is an interesting philosophy. I've always liked this: The Nine Principles of the Goddess 1. I acknowledge that there is one Goddess in essence, Creatrix of all existences; Her forms are infinite, She manifests Herself in our love, and we are all Her lovers. 2. Treat all beings with reciprocity, for the Goddess lives in them as well as in us. 3. Tolerate other religions and do not compel others to join the circle of the Goddess: the Goddess will draw those to Her who are ready and hear Her call. 4. Worship Her by restoring balance to Her planet. 5. Eat mostly grains, vegetables and fruits, so that there will be enough food for all; when you eat thank the Goddess, the provider of all energy. It is not forbidden to eat animal flesh in moderation, but when you do so you must thank the animal that you eat as well. 6. In the circle of the Goddess create consensus while respecting diversity of opinion. On the path of the Goddess there are many paths. 7. In your home create a sacred space for the Goddess to please Her. Meditate on the Goddess three times a day, at rising, at noon and at sundown. 8. Sexuality is Her sacrament; enjoy this gift and bless those who you share it with love and affection. Remember that overcoming jealousy is the cause of cessation of the cycle of rebirth. 9. Announce the religion of the Goddess to the world through good works, honest words and selfless acts of beauty and love.
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#20. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#17)
laughing, Mike..no need to say more...I'm pinging JT cuz he has a similar experience. btw, have you seen the movie Heaven Help Us?
And it's an inside job Because of the pick-your-pantheon, make-it-up-as-you-go structure that has evolved in Wicca over the last 10 years or so. Very much like a role-playing game, where you give your character some powers, and make up some entities, each with various aspects and powers, then go with it. I do think that the current state of Wicca is more like a role-playing game than any other neopagan construct I've seen. Call myself a "witch" and pretend I'm an ancient martyr to intolerance. The make-it-up aspect is very blatant, yet collectively, Wiccans are the pagans least willing to explicitly acknowledge it. On a positive note, best thing I ever got from studying Wicca was an awareness of the herb Rosemary, which seems quite plain, but gets more interesting the closer you look. First real exposure to it was in one of Scott Cunningham's books around 1990 or so.
You have good gut instincts. For example, I know that intelligent, self aware species of whales and dolphins have language and culture and do not deserve the specio-centric label of ignorant beasts our species of hairless primates likes to label them with. I respect all life in general first and foremost as the most important thing to preserve and protect as well. Humans will only get to where they claim they want to go to religiously and culturally if they get over themselves and climb down their self manufactured pedestal and learn to respect themselves as one of many of Earth's species of animals. A species that is going to have a large and very cruel die off sooner then we think if we don't curb our appetite for goods and resources and bring our numbers back into the carrying capabilities of Earth's biosphere.
I see. So you are saying Wicca has to get focused to grow and have a greater impact as a religion. I can't say I disagree. But I still find your analogy invalid and incendiary. What sets off my alarm is how many fundies group us with Satanism and correlate Satanism with D+D. We do not believe in Satan, and that religion is corollary to Christianity, not us. Mentioning D+D as an analogy for us is just too close to the tools Fundies use as tools to bash and belittle us, and slander us as being in bed with a religiosity that has nothing to do with us; namely Satanism. Which is a church and religion in and of itself. I know because I've had heated debates with local Satanists and heard their mocking comments about my religion. Hope this clarifies my concerns, and where I am coming from.
Maybe because you call yourselves witches, who were historically "brides of Satan." Or, because both wicca and Satanism are neopagan constructs founded in the 20th century, largely as anti-christian alternative religions. I know, I know, it's such an unexpected surprise when you tell a Christian that you're a witch, and they get all bent outta shape about it. Anyway, there plenty of worse things than Wicca in this world, and I'm neither a Satanist or a Fundie. My criticism of Wicca is not intended as a personal attack, you seem like an okay guy to me.
You mean, those wanting to lynch and destroy Goddess based religion slandered witches as "brides of Satan." Satanism is an in yo face religion I see as having a mock the Christians aspect to it we don't. We also believe that physical pleasures are to be valued in a responsible and balanced fashion. Satanists are like the spoiled oat sowing sons and daughters of Christianity out to give their parents gray hair and sleepless nights, we are not. My group originally first met in a public room at a local bank. Fundies protested and picketed and got us removed as users of that resource. I have had to suffer fundie whines that we are Satanistic and demonic. That used to irritate and anger me, now I feel sorry for these misguided creatures and no longer give my energy away to them by arguing with them directly. We have found that being tactically proficient and end running them to speak to their target audience directly without letting them be a filter by being the information source about us themselves is very valuable. Wicca has it's growing pains, but is not going away. It's increased size and influence will force focus and definition on this faith as this growth causes increased confrontation with Christian Jihadists such as evangelicals. That's just the way it works with any religion as it grows and establishes itself in human culture.
The concept of a goddess is a satanist witch philisophy. There's only One God and the only way anyone has a chance to see him would be through Christ. This goddes crap will land you in HELL!
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Perhaps. Time will tell. For myself, I don't feel compelled to directly proselytize in this time. Just the opposite, actually. Like principle #3 in the original post.
Here's something that I see a lot of Christians touting. There was a son of God, he was a good and virtuous person. He spread his good word, and was betrayed by his friend. He was killed for his goodness, and then, rose from the dead three days later. He appeared to his disciples, and then later ascended into heaven. Guess who I'm talking about? Zoroaster. That's right, I'm talking about Zoroaster. He lived, was a good and righteous person, and guess what? He died for his faith, and was slew by demons. THEN... Came back from the dead, appeared to his followers, and ascended. WOW... Coincedence? A lot of people have no idea how the whole religion thing works. It's funny, because pretty much every faith says the same things. Be good, Be good to your friends, family neighbors, and strangers. Don't murder, don't steal, don't lie, don't cheat, don't screw your neighbor's wife or husband, Don't prey on the weak, that sort of thing. ALL FAITHS SAY THIS. Even Satanists have a set of standards and practices. What floors me, is how one group of people tout their religion as the one true religion, when in fact all of their tenets and beliefs come from several others. This is why I know there will be no Return of Jesus. If there is, it will be televised, and be a manufactured reality where the population is duped into thinking they'll ascend into heaven, and actually be led into ovens to be culled. THAT IS RIGHT FOLKS, the end times scenario is so that they can make damned sure they can depopulate this planet. All in the name of a false God, and a False Truth. Believe whatever you want folks, because when these Rapture Monkeys get their way, you won't have to worry about which faith is right and just. You'll just be lucky to be alive when it's all over.
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#21. To: Ferret Mike (#16)
I'm not sure why you mention Dungeons and Dragons in reference to Wicca,
#22. To: Pandora (#19)
"I don't adhere to any religious dogma, but am rather a free and independent spirit who has an immense appreciation and respect for all living beings. I sense that you are the same."
#23. To: Rabble Rouser (#21)
#24. To: Ferret Mike (#23)
What sets off my alarm is how many fundies group us with Satanism
#25. To: Rabble Rouser (#24)
#26. To: Pandora (#0)
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#25)
It's increased size and influence will force focus and definition on this faith
#28. To: Pandora (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#29. To: Rabble Rouser (#27)
I am happy for your sanity in this then. ;-) Man, those screechers who scream and thump Bibles in public places are assholes. I am a political activist who has taken some on and shut them down sending them scurrying as I have developed excellent and formidable skills in doing so. Not to mention being blessed by the Goddess with a voice that would drown out a fog horn. I generally don't do so as I satisfied my curiosity to see what these people were made of, and prioritize my battles better then that. But I was highly amused that the reaction to people like me was to bring in people to accompany the screecher to hound, insult, threaten and harass the hecklers. Naturally that also did not work with me, but it was a useful indicator of just how organized and ruthless evangelicals are. I see absolutely positively no difference at all between evangelical Christians and the Taliban in Afghanistan and other Muslim fundies. If one has to go to such lengths to torture and bedevil the general population to that extent, one should see a mental health specialist, not be a public bother. ;-)
"For myself, I don't feel compelled to directly proselytize in this time. Just the opposite, actually. Like principle #3 in the original post."
#30. To: Ferret Mike (#29)
You might be interested in this: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=26594&Disp=0
#31. To: Pandora (#30)
Thank you for the link. I'll peruse it as soon as I can.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#26)
No it's not. You are simply a fundamentalist Moslem or fundamentalist Christian control freak. I can't tell which and it doesn't really matter; the result is the same, i.e., you won't feel comfortable until you have foisted your medeival religion onto everyone else. Some people don't want to be smothered in your security blanket. That is why the founding fathers added the First Amendment to the Constitution - to keep people like you at bay.
The concept of a goddess is a satanist witch philisophy.
#33. To: Pandora (#32)
The first amendment "religion part" only applies to THE CONGRESS, not the states. Several states had STATE RELIGIONS THAT WERE CHRISTIAN. The founding fathers would have burnt you at the stake. They knew a witch when they saw one.
Some people don't want to be smothered in your security blanket. That is why the founding fathers added the First Amendment to the Constitution - to keep people like you at bay.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#34. To: A K A Stone (#33)
There are no states with designated state religions. There may have been in the first intial confusion, or in the two years prior to the Bill of Rights, but certainly not after things got sorted out. The religious zealots spent over one hundred years trying to pass an amendment making the US a Christian country. They failed and gave up shortly after the civil war.
Several states had STATE RELIGIONS THAT WERE CHRISTIAN.
#35. To: A K A Stone (#33)
The majority of the founding fathers were Masonic adherents. George Washington, Jefferson, and many more. They use the same symmbols and hold to the philosophy of the Enlightenment the same way the Wiccans do. Note the pentagram in the streets of DC and the Wiccan symbols on the dollar bill. The founding fathers saw that it would be necessary to keep your kind at bay and they crafted the First Amendment to do so.
The founding fathers would have burnt you at the stake. They knew a witch when they saw one.
#36. To: Pandora (#34)
The religious zealots spent over one hundred years trying to pass an amendment making the US a Christian country. They failed and gave up shortly after the civil war. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; sorted out, what the fuck you talking about? There it is plain as day. CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW... That doesn't stop a GOVERNOR or STATE LEGISLATOR from making a state religion. The United States was a "christian nation" meaning the people were almost all christians. The christians are the ones who to a great degree made this country what it was. It was only after the government took prayer out of school and other such satanist stuff that our country went down the tubes. It is satanists like yourself that are the problem. Bush is a satanist too.
There are no states with designated state religions. There may have been in the first intial confusion, or in the two years prior to the Bill of Rights, but certainly not after things got sorted out.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#37. To: Pandora (#35)
You are correct about the masons, i dont know about jefferson. Your also right about the streets in DC.
The majority of the founding fathers were Masonic adherents. George Washington, Jefferson, and many more. They use the same symmbols and hold to the philosophy of the Enlightenment the same way the Wiccans do. Note the pentagram in the streets of DC and the Wiccan symbols on the dollar bill.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#38. To: A K A Stone (#36)
There is no state that has an officially designated religion. Likewise, the Federal Government has no designated or preferred state religion. This is in accordance with the First Amendment. A governor of a state can't toss out the First Amendments. All of the Amendments were made applicable to the states in about 1920. I forget the precise case, but it was a Fourth Amendment matter. Given this, a state cannot designate a state religion.
The United States was a "christian nation" meaning the people were almost all christians. The christians are the ones who to a great degree made this country what it was.
#39. To: Pandora (#38)
A governor of a state can't toss out the First Amendments. All of the Amendments were made applicable to the states in about 1920. I forget the precise case, but it was a Fourth Amendment matter. Given this, a state cannot designate a state religion. Dont be stupid ok. First amendment says CONGRESS. CONGRESS CONGRESS CONGRESS. II DOESNT SAY STATES CANT MAKE STATE RELIGIONS. IT SAYS CONGRESS FOR THE 10TH TIME. WHAT DOES IT SAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS JURISTDICTION IS....10 SQUARE MILES AND FEDERAL AREAS LIKE MILITARY BASES. SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CANT IMPOSE A STATE RELIGION ON US.....THE STATES ARE FREE TO DO SO. IT IS NOT THAT COMPLICATED....EVEN A THIRD GRADER CAN UNDERSTAND IT....WHATS YOUR PROBLEM?
There is no state that has an officially designated religion. Likewise, the Federal Government has no designated or preferred state religion. This is in accordance with the First Amendment.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)
Use google to view the symbology for Job's Daughters and then compare that to the Wiccan Symbology. I think the results will startle you. If you want more, see if you can find some of the oaths for the Job's Daughters and compare them to what is above.
You are correct about the masons,
#41. To: Pandora (#40)
I could care less if a bunch of satanist wiccans copied something christian. WICCANS ARE SATANISTS AND WILL BURN IN HELL!!! UNLESS THEY REPENT AND ACCEPT THE LIVING SON OF GOD JESUS CHRIST.
Use google to view the symbology for Job's Daughters and then compare that to the Wiccan Symbology. I think the results will startle you. If you want more, see if you can find some of the oaths for the Job's Daughters and compare them to what is above.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#42. To: Pandora, A K A Stone, little bees (#34)
This man, this hero, Abraham Lincoln -- whose legs were plenty "long enough to reach the ground" !! -- put a wise and honest end to all the silliness. Thank Goodness!
The religious zealots spent over one hundred years trying to pass an amendment making the US a Christian country. They failed and gave up shortly after the civil war.
#43. To: Rabble Rouser (#42)
Abraham Lincoln....Americas first dictator.
This man, this hero, Abraham Lincoln -- whose legs were plenty "long enough to reach the ground" !! -- put a wise and honest end to all the silliness. Thank Goodness!
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#44. To: A K A Stone (#41)
Look at the symbols and decide what got copied and what didn't. Besides, you don't know what happens after death. You only have an opinion - one that was probably formed for you by your parents.
I could care less if a bunch of satanist wiccans copied something christian.
#45. To: A K A Stone (#39)
First amendment says CONGRESS. CONGRESS CONGRESS CONGRESS. II DOESNT SAY STATES CANT MAKE STATE RELIGIONS. IT SAYS CONGRESS FOR THE 10TH TIME. You are dead wrong. Absolutely, 100% dead wrong. Use google on read up on these things before pontificating. Here is the quote from the relevant case: "....when the right of local authorities to provide free transportation for children attending parochial schools reached the Court, it adopted very restrictive language. ''The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a STATE nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. NEITHER can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever form they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a STATE nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect 'a wall of separation between church and State.' 98 U.S. 145, 164 (1879).
Dont be stupid ok.
#46. To: Pandora, christine, AKAStoned (#32)
a christian: one who expects tolerance for their beliefs, while at the same time advocating intolerance for any belief other than their own. being a genius is easy.....its the morons that drag you down. its lonely at the top, but crowded as hell at the bottom.
'We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion, or to a non-existent authority, on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the future.' ~ Wilhelm Reich
#47. To: Pandora (#45)
Show me in the consittution where a court case trumps the constitution. SHow me in the consittution where it says anything about courts setting precedents ant that becomes the law. You have sided with the usurpers. Do you even know what that means. Quote from the constitution (the supreme law of the land) not some corrupt judicial decision. Laws that conflict with the constitution are not laws at all (even if a "judge" says they are) and are not to be obeyed.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#48. To: A K A Stone (#36)
sorted out, what the fuck you talking about? There it is plain as day. CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW... That doesn't stop a GOVERNOR or STATE LEGISLATOR from making a state religion." Federal law supersedes state law. State law supersedes local law. You miss this important element that helps make STARE DECISIS, or case law work. No state may have a religion because the Federal government is not allowed to have an official religion. The U.S. Constitution is there to protect smaller groups from the whims and caprice of larger groups. And we adopted the Constitution because the Article of Confederation - the way government was organized prior to the adoption of the Constitution - gave too much leeway to the several states, and was proving unworkable.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
#49. To: Ferret Mike (#48)
Go back and read the 10th amendment. THe feds only have the power given to them by the STATES. The states created the federal govt. The federal government is usurping powers it doesn't legitimately have. You support the federal takeover?
Federal law supersedes state law
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#50. To: Ferret Mike (#48)
You really sucked down that propaganda from the government school didn't you.
The U.S. Constitution is there to protect smaller groups from the whims and caprice of larger groups. And we adopted the Constitution because the Article of Confederation - the way government was organized prior to the adoption of the Constitution - gave too much leeway to the several states, and was proving unworkable.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#51. To: A K A Stone (#50)
Facts are hard to deal with are they? Your problem, not mine. You are unable to refute my post; because I am correct.
"You really sucked down that propaganda from the government school didn't you."
#52. To: Ferret Mike (#51)
What is superior the consittution or a court decision that conflicts with the constitution. Which one is really the law. First amendment only procludes CONGRESS from making state religions. Learn your history at the time there were several states with state religions. This country was created so we could be free to worship God without interferance from the government. The system you advocate is more like the USSR or CHINA. You have proved nothing.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#53. To: Ferret Mike (#51)
Congress also cant stop the free exercise of religion. As in when the states have state religions.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#54. To: A K A Stone (#52)
Constitution in particular is capitalized and you also mis-spell it by the way. You also do not use correct punctuation. You need question marks to indicate interrogatory. You need to understand history and the government of the United States far better then you do as you look like you are brandishing a knife at a gunfight here. Most concerns of the state courts involve federal statutory preemption of state and local authority. Preemption refers to the authority of the Congress under the supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution to enact statutes that displace or replace state and local laws and powers. States cannot pick on smaller religions by giving authority of one larger religion over them. States are not allowed to become Theocracies here. It gets no more simpler then that. With all due respect, you are embarrassing yourself horribly here.
"What is superior the consittution or a court decision that conflicts with the constitution. Which one is really the law."
#55. To: A K A Stone (#53)
Spreading the Christian love around pretty thick, I see. I don't think that typing words like *witch*, *you're going to burn in hell* or *you would be burned at the stake* is any way to demonstrate the love of Christ or win souls, hearts or minds, but perhaps that is just me. I am off to church - have a happy Sunday, one and all.
#56. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
Im on my laptop. The keys arent placed as well as desktop. forgive me.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#57. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#55)
Christ said he would come back to bring a sword
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#58. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
THE FEDS ONLY HAVE POWER THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM BY THE STATES. READ CAREFULLY AS WORDS HAVE MEANINGS. CONGRESS HAS A SET OF POWERS GIVEN TO THEM BY THE STATES. CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW......DOESN'T MEAN STATES CAN'T. CONGRESS AND THE FEDERAL LAWS ARE ONLY FOR DC. YOU KNOW THE 1O SQUARE MILE WHERE THEY HAVE EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION. THE ONLY OTHER PLACE THE FEDERAL LAWS ARE VALID IS ON MILITARY BASES, AND POST OFFICES. THE REST IS FOR THE STATES TO DECIDE. I'VE DECIDED YOU HAVE SIDED WITH THE USURPERS.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#59. To: A K A Stone (#53)
An official religion has a chilling effect on the rights and freedom of worship - or not believe in religion - therefore no religion is given an official role in government. Government is supposed to stay clear of playing favorites. Having a state religion would open up anyone not of that religion to oppression and open discrimination because they were not of the religion tied to the government. Government is supposed to keep larger groups from picking on smaller groups. That is why no religion is official; as nothing would protect anyone not of it from the toxic and hostile whims and caprice of those of the religion with a governmental mantle of authority pervading it.
"Congress also cant stop the free exercise of religion. As in when the states have state religions."
#60. To: A K A Stone (#47)
Sure. Use google and find a case called Marbury vs. Madison. This will explain it to you. I don't have time to explain high school civics here. As I said above, the reality is that the states don't have the power to establish a state religion. As someone already noted on this thread, this was done to protect the population from people like you. Your argument here is that you don't like it and that you wish the situation was different. When you finish with this argument, the states still do not have the power to establish a state religion.
Show me in the consittution where a court case trumps the constitution. SHow me in the consittution where it says anything about courts setting precedents ant that becomes the law.
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