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Religion See other Religion Articles Title: WICCA / PAGAN Hellbound! In their attempts to dissociate themselves from Satanism, Wiccans have tended to distort their own history. Wicca and Satanism are indeed very distinct religious categories. But there are some intimate historical ties between the two, as even some Wiccan scholars are finally starting to admit. See, for example, Aidan Kelly's book Crafting the Art of Magic (pp.21-22, 25-26, and 176). Wicca is not "the Old Religion", though it does draw inspiration from various old religions. Wicca as we now know it is derived from 19th-century occult philosophy -- including literary Satanic philosophy, among others -- projected onto a non-Christian Goddess and God, plus some de-Christianized Golden Dawn style ceremonial magick, plus assorted turn-of-the-century British folklore, more recently re-shaped by neo-Pagan scholarship and by modern feminist and ecological concerns. At least several different sides of Wicca's convoluted family tree can be traced to 19th-century literary Satanism, some forms of which had more in common with present-day Wicca than with present-day Satanism. The prime example of literary Satanism that strongly influenced Wicca, especially feminist Wicca, is the book La Sorciere by the 19th-century French historian Jules Michelet (published in English by Citadel Press under the title Satanism and Witchcraft). Michelet's ideas, as paraphrased by feminist writers such as Barbara Ehrenreich and Deirdre English in their booklet Witches, Midwives, and Nurses: A History of Women Healers (Feminist Press, 1973), have played an important role today's women's health movement. (At least Ehrenreich and English were honest enough to list Michelet in their bibliography.) See especially Michelet's introduction. Michelet was, as far as I know, the literary origin of today's feminist image of the Witch as a healer. Among other things, he theorized that the witchhunts were used by the emerging male medical profession to wipe out their peasant female competition. According to Jeffrey B. Russell in A History of Witchcraft, pre-feminist classical Wicca also drew lots of inspiration indirectly from Michelet. Michelet was a major source of inspiration to Margaret Murray, Charles G. Leland, and Sir James Frazer, whom most knowledgeable Wiccans do recognize as influential. (Russell points this out, yet neglects to inform the reader that Michelet's book is full of passionate, sympathetic depictions of Satan as well as of the medieval witches. Russell too perpetuates the false counter-myth that Wicca Has Nothing To Do With Satanism.) I'll leave it to the scholarly folks to debate just how indebted Murray and Leland were to Michelet. In any case, the Italian witch mythology Leland presented in Aradia: Gospel of the Witches (originally published 1899), one of Wicca's major sources, contains some diabolical-witchcraft elements. The very first paragraph reads: Diana greatly loved her brother Lucifer, the god of the Sun and of the Moon, the god of Light, who was so proud of his beauty, and who for his pride was driven from Paradise. Most Wiccans don't even know they are worshipping Goddess Diana Lucifera, this goes to show how much research they have put into there belief system. Wiccans usually argue that "Lucifer" is not SATAN but is just "the god of the Sun and of the Moon". If that's the case then Aliester Crowley (The Beast) was worshipping the same god also. The Egyptian sky god HORUS represented the Sun and Moon. I hope you see a pattern here on how creative Satan can be when he hides himself behind many names. The statement that Lucifer was "driven from Paradise" for his "pride" is clearly a reference of the Bible's (ISAIAH 14:12) and (Ezekiel 28:15-17). ISA 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! EZE 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. EZE 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground.. Obviously Lucifer has been booted from Heaven, Lu·ci·fer meaning "light-bringer" explains this verse written by the Apostle Paul in (CO2 11:14). CO2 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an ANGEL OF LIGHT. Satan after being blasted out of Heaven apparently is still able to transform into his shining self when he wants to. That's why many things that look like they are harmless are very much a hazard to your salvation. If Lucifer can disguise himself in something that looks innocent he can destroy you. WICCA is a perfect example of such an attempt to hurt the Living GOD by tricking more of his sheep into destruction. Lucifer still has some bad feelings about being forcefully evicted from Heaven and this is an act of his revenge. He was created in Heaven and was created perfect by the Living God. Until he started to think he could be like the Living GOD. This was his biggest mistake. Here in (ISAIAH 14:13-15) Satan shows his pride again and pledges his oath that even though he was booted out of Heaven that he will still ascend into Heaven and exalt the throne of Living GOD. Kind of like watching a fight on TV and you see a Boxer get knocked out and fall down so hard that you kinda are saying to yourself "stay down" but his pride is so great he would rather get hit again and suffer possible death. This is already predicted to happen to Satan he will get the final blow to the head very soon. ISA 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: ISA 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. ISA 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. Besides Murray, Leland, and other writers on witchcraft, another of Wicca's main sources is Aleister Crowley. Many knowledgeable Wiccans (e.g. the Farrars and Doreen Valiente) do realize that Gardner's rituals were heavily based on Crowley's rituals, though they tend to overstate the "Crowley was not a Satanist" disclaimer. Crowley was into Satanic symbolism, in addition to the zillion other things he was into. In some defensive neo-Pagan writings (e.g. the Church of All Worlds booklet "Witchcraft, Satanism, and Occult Crime: Who's Who and What's What"), it is claimed that Crowley was neither a Satanist nor a Pagan but was just into Judaeo-Christian ceremonial magick. In fact, Crowley was very eclectic. Even Golden Dawn ceremonial magick included not only Qabalah and the medieval Christian grimoires, but also Egyptian deities, Greek deities, and Yoga. Crowley emphasized the Egyptian elements, downplayed the Christian elements, and added plenty of other things to the mix, including Satanic imagery galore (such as his invocation of Satan in Liber Samekh, not to mention his constant references to himself as "the Beast 666"). Some will insist that Crowley's Satanic symbolism was merely a joke; but Crowley's attitudes were well within the 19th-century Satanic literary tradition. (In most of the more sophisticated forms of Satanism, the name "Satan" is understood in an ironic sense.) Others will explain that most of Crowley's Satanic symbolism can be re-interpreted in Pagan terms, but this too is true of many forms of Satanism. Famous Quotes From Wiccans We are not evil.. We are NOT Satanists!. We don't harm or seduce people. We don't kill baby's.. We are not dangerous. We are ordinary people like you. We have families, jobs, hopes, and dreams. We are not a cult. This religion is not a joke. We are not what you think we are from looking at TV. We are real. We laugh, we cry. We are serious. We have a sense of humor. You don't have to be afraid of us. We don't want to convert you. And please don't try to convert us. Just give us the same right we give you--to live in peace. We are much more similar to you than you think." Margot Adler You also have something in common will each other.. You are in serious danger of hellfire! Oh I forgot "We don't believe in HELL so we can't go there.." I don't believe in paying taxes but I seem to be doing it anyway.. Not believing in HELL will not prevent you from HELL. You are presently failing the biggest test of your life the test itself is called LIFE. This page was compiled on FACTS and will be constantly updated. This page is not complete but holds enough truth to keep you out of HELL.
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#39. To: All (#0)
Are you a wiccan? Are you an indian? You know the indians were wiped out because they were godless don't you?
I thought they were wiped out because we wanted to steal their land.
The bible said godless people would be pushed off their land by righteous followers of him. I'm saying that as someone who has indian blood and is proud of it.
#43. To: A K A Stone (#42)
The bible said godless people would be pushed off their land by righteous followers of him. I'm saying that as someone who has indian blood and is proud of it. Stone, quit your god damned tap dancing and go get the link where I said "even when they use foreign law" and post it here. Or have the balls to admit that you are a liar.
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