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Title: WHY IS A MARRIED JESUS SO THREATENING TO THE CHURCH?
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Published: May 18, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-05-22 07:18:21 by Mind_Virus
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WHY IS A MARRIED JESUS SO THREATENING TO THE CHURCH? Date: Thursday, 18 May 2006, 4:25 p.m. Is it because the Church has been exposed in a huge two thousand year long cover-up? Was Jesus not virginal and celibate after all? He called himself the "son of man", emphasizing his human side. His followers called him "Rabbi", and rabbis were married men. With families. (Infertility was a valid reason for divorce among the Jews in Jesus' time. It still is, among Muslims whose traditions are very similar.) So what, pray tell, is so shocking about Jesus being a married man? Does it really take away from his "divinity"? (Only for the brainwashed, surely.) Jesus' divinity vs humanity was a huge bone of contention among the earliest Christians who insisted that it had to be "either or". Instead of BOTH. In the early years of Christianity when few could read and ignorance was even more rampant than now (!) much blood was shed over this issue. But the implications of Jesus having a family go much deeper.... gigi's post below suggests much older, deeper and darker Church secrets. From my own studies I have some sense of what those might be. The following thoughts are JMO---from three decades of studying this topic. And from investigative traveling in the south of France and in the MidEast. ******************************* Ever since I read "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" in l982 I began to ponder why the Church was so desperate to suppress the idea of Jesus having progeny. The following ideas came to mind: (A) Any direct bloodline descendants of Jesus would be the natural spiritual leaders of the Church-not the elected popes and cardinals. Thus the heirarchy and entire Roman political power structure of the Church would be threatened. Forever and ever. (B) Some of the early Church leaders must have recognized that Jesus' extraordinary powers (healing, psychic abilities, "miracles", etc.) were derived from (what many believe is) extraterrestrial/human hybrid ancestry. The "gods" were known to have such superhuman skills. Consider that the "angel" Gabriel announced to Mary that she would conceive by the Holy Spirit. Is it so hard to imagine that "God" could arrange a "divine" pregnancy such as we saw with the Nefilim (the "gods" in Genesis 4), with Abraham's disbelieving Sarah, and in recent times with UFO abductees? Mankind has long viewed ET's as "divine" gods due to their advanced powers. A heavily suppressed but age-old truth is that our planet has been periodically and continually seeded by extraterrestrials for many millenia. The bees frequently found in esoteric and Church d33;cor are indications of the divine "flying ones"...for those who Know. The symbolism of the "tower" also refers to early ET technology. "Magdala" means TOWER. (C) A sacred bloodline with extraordinary spiritual powers would have to be eradicated if the politics of the early Roman Church were to successfully dominate the "civilized" world. Ancient sacred mysteries and knowledge were suppressed or declared heresy. For example, slaves and ordinary people could not be allowed to know the basic truth of reincarnation (karmic justice and continuous life is too hopeful). Most (not all) references to it were apparently edited out of the canonical scriptures. Its champion, the cleric Origen, was declared "anathema" and expelled by the Council of Nicea (325 CE) where scriptures were approved (canon) or censored (apocrypha/heresy). So the pogroms began.... Those who insist that the Bible was written by men have a strong argument if they are referring to the editing and censoring done at Nicea. :<)) (D) The once powerful Knights Templar are believed to have guarded the holy grail, now finally understood as the holy bloodline itself. During the first millenium CE the sacred bloodline became the French royal "Merovingian" line which the Church tried to eradicate-unsuccessfuly. The royal houses of Europe all wanted to interbreed with this line, and many did so. These facts must have been known to Pope Clement (who showed NO "clemency"!) when he, collaborating with the French king in 1307, ordered the mass arrest, trials, tortures and executions of the Templars. At that point the majority of the Templars fled and dispersed by land and sea to many countries, and went "underground". Thence they have operated in the shadows, presumably still protecting the holy grail/bloodline. From them are descended the Freemasons who were later infiltrated by the Illuminati (founded only in May 1776 by Weisskopf of Bavaria.) (E) The "Priory of Sion" may (or may not) be a modern invention serving as a "red herring" (false lead) to protect the identity of the actual bloodline (holy grail). There are now certainly millions who knowingly--and unknowingly--carry the sacred bloodline of Jesus and Mary from their daughter "Sarah" (meaning "royal"). People refer to the "children" of Jesus and Mary, but I am not aware of others besides Sarah whose existence is heavily documented in French legends, churches, and folklore. If any reader knows anything about siblings of Sarah, I would like to know references, sources, etc. (Thank you!) A Merovingian direct descendant, Princess Diana was evidently chosen to help to empower the failing British monarchy with her sacred-blooded sons. We may remember that her older sister SARAH (!) was the Windsors' first choice, but was probably not a virgin, a royal requirement. So the job fell to young Diana. The goddess of the hunt, Diana gave the Windsors a "run for their money"--and two holy-blooded heirs. Pierre Plantard, the current head of the Priory of Sion has now sworn that he invented the Priory in the l950's. The Church and TV producers have swallowed his story whole, since it suits their Church agenda of discrediting the idea of a bloodline. Others insist that the Priory was founded in l099 by the Knights Templar as a secret organization to document the sacred bloodline. (F) Imagine: if millions now carry the bloodline of Jesus, might this not be one aspect of the promised "Second Coming?" A "Second Coming" not controlled by any organized religion, but fed as the universal "Christ Consciousness" through humanity itself! :<)) ******************* So whether or not you choose to see "The DaVinci Code" film. do consider the provocative questions it raises. And look into the rapidly expanding source material like "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" (1982-in paperback) and discern the truth for yourself. Truth now prevails increasingly. Suppression, no matter how "loud" is no longer possible in this new millenium of "Truthtime". Blessings and enLightenment to all~~ Namaskar
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#9. To: Diana, Eoghan, Itisa1mosttoolate (#5)
However, Foxman and his cohorts feel they must seek revenge, and I think all this DiVinci Code crap and it's implications is just that. I notice Drudge has been putting up tons of articles about it, like it's the most important movie of all time. Good analysis, I agree. I've been speaking about this new movie like it's another Indiana Jones movie, which IMO that's how accurate it is. To imply that a novel/movie can suddenly reveal some deep dark secret of 2,000 years of Christendom is ludicrous. Fact is, the Talmud has all kinds of strange crap about non-Jews. Hollywood will never let that movie out.
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] Excuse me, Da Vinci. (I'm starting to sound like Stone!)
I remember when the book came out all these pseudo intellectual types were forming discussion groups about it, I only knew the basic premise of the book though I knew right off what was going on. I'm not a bit suprised the movie was made, I do hope it bombs, no matter what those raving about it and promoting it say.
Observe that movies, books, religions, philosophies, cults, etc that elevate or substitute man-made "wisdom" over the plain biblical truth that Jesus Christ is the begotten Son of God who sacrificed Himself to offer the free gift of eternal salvation to anyone who willingly accepts it with gratitude and loyal trust in Christ, have always been pushed to the forefront in human awareness - they always seem to be of utmost importance. There is a reason. Let me unpack that for you. Since the Serpent enticed Adam & Eve to defy God's express instructions, thru the false charges of blasphemy levied against Christ Himself, Satan has sought to undermine God's creation and subvert it to Satan's will - all in a futile effort to exalt himself to be like God. Paul elaborated on this spiritual conflict when he said: Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Satan's goal has always been and continues to be to either, prevent people from coming under Christ's sovereignty or if they have, then to blunt their usefulness to Christ. Satan's principal tool has always been lies. Any plausible lie will do. Satan doesn't care what people believe so long as it isn't Jesus Christ. This is the meaning when Jesus said: Mat 7:13-14 "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. (14) "For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it. The broad road leading to destruction is indeed very broad; the lies and deceptions that people pursue in ignorance or denial of the truth are innumerable. While the gate leading to life is indeed narrow; it is Christ alone and sadly very few seem inclined to even search for it let alone find it. By example, recall how a handful of tobacco companies used to wage innumerable ad campaigns positioning their own brands against each other, as if one cigarette was really better than another. The tobacco companies didn't really care which one you bought because they owned all brands and their goal was to increase the size of the overall market (ie, make more profit-generating addicts). It was only against not smoking that the real battle was waged, and we all know how deceptive and ugly that got. Similarly, when you observe these very public 'battles' over biblical truth they invariably are efforts to disprove or discredit the Bible or Christianity. Rarely do you see such debates over the 'truth' of Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, mysticism, naturalism, -ism, -ism, -ism. Because Satan doesn't care which one of those you believe or not so long as you believe at least one of them, whereas Satan cares very much that you not believe Jesus Christ. With the Da Vinci Code you have a well written intriging story, falsely portrayed as well-researched fact and purporting to reveal 'destructive truths' that the Christian church has tried to conceal; 'truths' that ostensibly prove that Jesus Christ was not who He claimed. Well, that is the lie, plain and simple, and it is a very old lie but dressed up as modern conspiracy theory. It is a lie that many want to believe because they dislike being told that Christ is sovereign and died for their sins - they don't like God's law that defines sin or their being sinners under that law - hence the human prideful defiance that there is any such law or consequences therefrom. The same deception the Serpent used on Adam & Eve - the subversive 'innocent' question " did God really say" has been rephrased as "was Christ (and His church) really honest". Satan understands human pride and defiance all too well and plays on it often. The Da Vinci Code appeals to human pride of being smart enough to 'uncover the truth' and defiance in 'proving God was wrong'. Consequently it is "like it's the most important movie of all time", but only to Satan, not to God or Christ's church. Proving that 'the Bible is a lie' is itself a plausible lie, but a lie whose plausibility rests entirely on ignorance of what the Bible actually says and what history actually records.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
The satanists on this forum don't want that truth to get out. Pandora, Morgan le fay, the fag indian, mike ferret.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Never thought of that, but I think you are right on target. All around brilliant post! Also good point of how it appeals to the human pride, making people feel smart and superior.
Your mislabeling "wiccans" as "satanists" is to mislabel one lie for another and does not help to expose the lie. Lies are often subtle, half truths, and while the enemy is ultimately always Satan, his propaganda comes in many guises and confusing them helps no one. Casting aspersions on someone's screen name likewise does little to enhance your credibility. While I understand and agree with your desire to 'take a stand for Christ', as Christians we should debate honestly on the facts or keep quiet.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
I always debate honestly. Wicca is a made up religion based on various satanic cults.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Indeed, human pride and fear are the most primitive of emotions and are the core of much human sin. It is subjecting these base human emotions to control of the indwelt Holy Spirit that the transformation of a "born again" believer achieves. Observe pretty much any human behavior. Look for the underlying pride or fear, and you will find the chink in their spiritual armour which Satan is exploiting.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
Post the link proving that Morgan and I are satanist, or even wiccans, or admit you are a liar. You are caught here and I expect you to you squirm for fifty or so posts to avoid admitting your lie. Be forwarned, I am prepared to prove your lie. As Yelda Roob told you on the other site, you are just compounding the damage when you lie about your lies. Here is the link to where she caught you in a lie this morning and warned you:
I have asked you to cease referring to me as a satanist. I am not. I do not worship satan. You claim to be a christian, yet your language, epithets, and judgmentalism defy that claim.
#22. To: Pandora (#20) http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=26558 Title: The Nine Principles of the Goddess Source: Sacred Texts URL Source: http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/bog/bog02.htm Published: May 20, 2006 Author: Unknown Post Date: 2006-05-20 02:25:01 by Pandora Keywords: None 242 Comments Here is an interesting philosophy. I've always liked this: The Nine Principles of the Goddess 1. I acknowledge that there is one Goddess in essence, Creatrix of all existences; Her forms are infinite, She manifests Herself in our love, and we are all Her lovers. 2. Treat all beings with reciprocity, for the Goddess lives in them as well as in us. 3. Tolerate other religions and do not compel others to join the circle of the Goddess: the Goddess will draw those to Her who are ready and hear Her call. 4. Worship Her by restoring balance to Her planet. 5. Eat mostly grains, vegetables and fruits, so that there will be enough food for all; when you eat thank the Goddess, the provider of all energy. It is not forbidden to eat animal flesh in moderation, but when you do so you must thank the animal that you eat as well. 6. In the circle of the Goddess create consensus while respecting diversity of opinion. On the path of the Goddess there are many paths. 7. In your home create a sacred space for the Goddess to please Her. Meditate on the Goddess three times a day, at rising, at noon and at sundown. 8. Sexuality is Her sacrament; enjoy this gift and bless those who you share it with love and affection. Remember that overcoming jealousy is the cause of cessation of the cycle of rebirth. 9. Announce the religion of the Goddess to the world through good works, honest words and selfless acts of beauty and love. Post Comment Private Reply Bookmark A K A Stone posted on 2006-05-22 12:43:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
LOL!! So what? I thought the article was interesting. This makes me and everyone else a satanist? You posted an article on communism the other week. Does this make you a communist? Why don't you make a list of the topics you will allow us to discuss and not discuss. Then we will be safe from your slander. One more time: Post the link proving that Morgan and I are satanist, or even wiccans, or admit you are a liar. You are caught here and I expect you to you squirm for fifty or so posts. Be forwarned, I am prepared to prove your lie. As Yelda Roob told you, you are just compounding the damage when you lie about your lies. You are spinnig already.
You don't have a link to prove up your slander do you. That is why you are now going to jump from subjet to subject in an attempt to hide your dishonesty.
Its not my forum. Christine runs this place. I think she lets us talk about most anything.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Spoken like a true satanist witch that you are.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Spoken in an attempt to change the subject. In an effort to avoid the lie. Post the link proving that Morgan and I are satanist, or even wiccans, or admit you are a liar. You are caught here and I expect you to you squirm for fifty or so posts. Be forwarned, I am prepared to prove your lie. As Yelda Roob told you, you are just compounding the damage when you lie about your lies. Note that expect you to hurl many insults and to make many more attempts to change the subject in an attempt to avoid addressing your baseless charge. I won't fall for it.
1. You lied about Morgan and I being Satanists. 2. You lied about Morgan and I being Wiccans. 3. You don't have a shred of proof for this baseless slander. 4. You are now sqirming to avoid your prior lies. Post your proof and save your reputation.
Listen here witch. Everyone sees the satanic symbols that morgan has as her tagline. You two use the same symbols to promote that hellish place you two came from. Everyone knows you are a satanist witch. Some people just dont want to tell you. Believe me they are telling me in private messages. Boo be gone witch.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
The little that is left of your reputation.
Everyone knows you are a satanist witch. Some people just dont want to tell you. Believe me they are telling me in private messages. I assume you have nothing other than your raw opinion to support this. That would be typical. Now post the link proving that Morgan and I are satanist, or even wiccans, or admit you are a liar. The phrase "everyone knows" is asure indicaton that a person has no support for his position. You are caught here and I expect you to you squirm for fifty or so posts. Be forwarned, I am prepared to prove your lie. As Yelda Roob told you, you are just compounding the damage when you lie about your lies. I am calling you a deliberate, calculated liar here. Prove me wrong. So far you have done nothing but flail about and hurl insults. Note that expect you to hurl many more insults and to make many more attempts to change the subject. I won't fall for it.
Your dishonsty has been proven up in several places over the past couple of days. Here is one instance from this morning: http://www.postliberty.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5128 Your unsupported slander against myself and Morgan is another instance. Post the link proving up your claim. Save what is left of your reputation.
Are you lesbian lovers? I think so. witch
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Little boy, you are not going to get out of your lie by making me angry and changing the subject. Did your mother let you get away with that tactic? If you think that, then post your proof, or admit you are again lying. And while you are at it, post the link proving that Morgan and I are satanist, or even wiccans, or again admit you are a liar. You are caught here and I expect you to you squirm for fifty or so posts. Be forwarned, I am prepared to prove your lie. As Yelda Roob told you, you are just compounding the damage when you lie about your lies. Note that expect you to hurl many more insults and to make many more attempts to change the subject. I won't fall for it. I will make you either prove up you slander or admit it was a lie.
It was a question. I don't know the answer. I do know you are a satanist though.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Then the movie was made by those pushing this agenda, and how long are we going to have to hear about it... It is being so heavily promoted, I'm afraid this nonsense will go on and on till we are all sick of it, even those of us who can't even call ourselves proper Christians. I admit that I saw the movie over the weekend and loved it. It was a good movie and that's all it was, a good movie. Doesn't cause me to question anything. I may read the book at some point, or not. Haven't decided. The only concern I have is of those who aren't aware of Church history and for whatever reason, won't take the time to do some investigation. People who will take what they see and hear in this age of media and treat it is unquestioned truth. And yes, there does seem to be an agenda at work. The Gospel of Judas release just prior to Easter and this movie's release the weekend prior to the Roman Catholic observence of Ascension Day (Thursday, 25th; Orthodox 6/1)) don't seem like accidents. Like Christ's parable of the roots on various soils, those who have shallow roots (or no roots at all) will be easily swayed. And that is probably intended.
"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people." -- V
That said, I don't think any of the Apocryphal books even assert that Christ was married. They give a more prominent role to Magadalene as an apostle, and that's all. As for Da Vinci's paintings, Da Vinci, like most artists of the time, followed certain conventions in portraying certain situations and individuals. The Last Supper, according to most scholarship, presents the apostles and their varied reactions to Christ's statement that "one of you will betray me". The picture is about that psychological moment rather than the actual Eucharist. As for the garments they're wearing, I don't think painters of the time were remotely interested in historical accuracy and anachronisms and inaccuracies would be rife throughout most paintings. They just weren't interested in that, and as you say, they frequently didn't have the info anyway. The apostle John, in the Last Supper (the allegedly feminine figure charged to be Magadalene) was traditionally portrayed in the art of that time as a young student type, frequently rather effeminate looking. This John might have been even more effeminate looking than the other's because Leonardo was gay. There's no hidden meaning in this picture. Leonardo sometimes put jokes or symbols in his pictures, but nothing nefarious or bizarre, and I think the meanings were well understood within the artistic context of his time. I agree. Couldn't have said it better myself.
"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people." -- V
Yes, a slanderous "When did you stop beating your wife" type question. Which isn't really a request for information at all. "Are you lesbian lovers? I think so." So how many lies does this put you at? I now count three from you about myself and Morgana. Why don't you now try to prove up at least one and save what is left of your repuatation. I am not going to hold you to what you said.
Stone, if you've got a link that proves these two women are devil worshipers, witches, wiccans, lesbians or prostitutes - post the goddamned thing and save yourself from looking like a slanderous fool. If you don't have one. Then apologize for being such a vile sack of shit.
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Stone, judge not lest ye be judged. You may not like or agree with these folks, but I don't think Jesus would be as harsh towards them as you have been. I'm not trying to start a fight with you, but I think you're being way too harsh towards these folks. We're not living in the Middle Ages here.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Stone, it might be OK in a day or so. Lots of people who think devils and witches are chasing them just have the DT's.
This kid is not trying to be imformative with his postings, he is baiting with them. And as you point out, he hurts himself, not his intended target. ;-)
In the words of the Apostle, Sam Kinnison: "Bomb De-Fusing For Dummies, Chapter 1, Wiring: Red Before Yellow Kills A Fellow."
Why don't you now try to prove up at least one and save what is left of your repuatation. I am not going to hold you to what you said. Quit calling me a liar. I have told no lies. It is my opinion that you are a satanist. You and indian boy twist my words and spam up the site saying im a liar. That is not true. It was only my opinion that you might be a lesbian as that is the sexual preferance of MANY wiccans.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
The bible doesn't tell us not to judge. In fact it says to "judge righteous judgement"
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
be gone witch. You owe me a keyboard. I just spit coffee all over this one.
Freeper motto: "I read, but do not understand; I write, but make no sense."
The issue is in preserving his legend as a God. If he was married and left a family, he would only be another human - however gifted.
How about just a cup of coffee and you can wipe the keyboard off?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
The real threat to the Catholic Church would be if priests wanted to marry, and not be celibate. The reason why the Catholic Church banned marriage among the priesthood was that the heirs of the priests got to keep the wealth. When they banned marriage, they guaranteed that the priest's personal wealth went right back into the church coffers. FOR ANYONE TO BELIEVE THAT ORGANIZED RELIGIONS ARE GOOD, IS DELUSIONAL AT BEST. Religion, like everything else is about money, greed and the blind lust for power. PERIOD.
Boy Abe Foxman sure was pissed over Mel Gibson's Jesus movie, where he said all these Christians would go around lynching Jews all over the world over it. Of course that never happened.
#10. To: All, A K A Stone (#8)
#11. To: robin (#9)
To imply that a novel/movie can suddenly reveal some deep dark secret of 2,000 years of Christendom is ludicrous.
#12. To: Diana, christine, scooter, mehitable, rowdee, *Bereans* (#5)
However, Foxman and his cohorts feel they must seek revenge, and I think all this DiVinci Code crap and it's implications is just that. I notice Drudge has been putting up tons of articles about it, like it's the most important movie of all time.
#13. To: Starwind (#12)
Satan's goal has always been and continues to be to either, prevent people from coming under Christ's sovereignty or if they have, then to blunt their usefulness to Christ. Satan's principal tool has always been lies. Any plausible lie will do. Satan doesn't care what people believe so long as it isn't Jesus Christ. This is the meaning when Jesus said:
#14. To: Starwind (#12)
Similarly, when you observe these very public 'battles' over biblical truth they invariably are efforts to disprove or discredit the Bible or Christianity. Rarely do you see such debates over the 'truth' of Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, mysticism, naturalism, -ism, -ism, -ism. Because Satan doesn't care which one of those you believe or not so long as you believe at least one of them, whereas Satan cares very much that you not believe Jesus Christ.
#15. To: A K A Stone (#13)
The satanists on this forum don't want that truth to get out.
the fag indian, mike ferret.
#16. To: Starwind (#15)
#17. To: Diana (#14)
Also good point of how it appeals to the human pride, making people feel smart and superior.
#18. To: A K A Stone (#13)
The satanists on this forum don't want that truth to get out. Pandora, Morgan le fay, the fag indian, mike ferret.
#19. To: A K A Stone (#13)
#20. To: Pandora (#18)
Post the link proving that Morgan and I are satanist, or even wiccans, or admit you are a liar.
#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)
#22. To: A K A Stone (#20)
#23. To: Pandora (#21)
Why don't you make a list of the topics you will allow us to discuss and not discuss. Then we will be safe from your slander
#24. To: Pandora (#22)
That is why you are now going to jump from subjet to subject in an attempt to hide your dishonesty.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)
Spoken like a true satanist witch that you are.
#26. To: A K A Stone (#24)
#27. To: Pandora (#25)
#28. To: A K A Stone (#24)
#29. To: A K A Stone (#27)
Listen here witch. Everyone sees the satanic symbols that morgan has as her tagline. You two use the same symbols to promote that hellish place you two came from.
#30. To: A K A Stone (#27)
#31. To: Pandora (#30)
Your unsupported slander against myself and Morgan is another instance.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#31)
Are you lesbian lovers? I think so. witch
#33. To: Pandora (#32)
If you think that, then post your proof, or admit you are again lying.
#34. To: Diana (#8)
As it was meant to do.
#35. To: mehitable (#6)
The books that were excluded from the Bible were debated probably for centuries. They were created many many years - sometimes centuries - after Christ's death, so they were not first hand accounts. One might say that the 4 main books of the NT are not either, but I think most of them were written in a closer time frame than these Apocryphal books. I think the early Church had an inherent right to review all the various books, debate them, and then to decide what to include - otherwise how would they have been able to establish a cohesive church with a dogma that all could believe (or be forced to believe).
#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)
It was a question. I don't know the answer.
#37. To: A K A Stone (#33)
#38. To: A K A Stone (#33)
#39. To: A K A Stone (#33)
#40. To: mehitable (#38)
#41. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
WHY IS A MARRIED JESUS SO THREATENING TO THE CHURCH?
"I knew that Jesus was never married because no wife would buy the resurrection story in a million years. Think about it, he leaves on Friday morning with 12 of his buddies. He's gone the whole weekend, he doesn't call, he doesn't come home, then he shows up Monday morning looking like shit. And she's outfront in the yard in a housecoat, pacing back and forth...well, nice of you to show up, Mr. Wine-Maker. Where's your 12 loser friends who won't get a job? Disciples, my ass, they're LOSERS."
#42. To: Pandora (#36)
So how many lies does this put you at? I now count three from you about myself and Morgana.
#43. To: mehitable (#38)
Stone, judge not lest ye be judged.
#44. To: A K A Stone (#27)
Boo
#45. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
#46. To: YertleTurtle (#44)
You owe me a keyboard. I just spit coffee all over this one.
#47. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#48. To: SKYDRIFTER (#45)
Another reason, would be the whole Lineage Of Kings bullshit. Remember the Merovingians??? All totally fraudulent. The idea that anyone is a direct descendent of Jesus and is somehow holier than everyone else, and deserves to rule the world is a farce. ALL RELIGIONS ARE FALSE.
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#49. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Christine, Diana, All (#48)
The issue isn't what's false, it's what may be discovered to be true - being radically contrary to the 'historic' Catholic teachings, in particular. What's waiting in the wings is the advertisement of the context of the Gnostic Gospels. The Gnostics worshipped knowledge and regarded ignorance as the counterpart to sin. Knowledge was known as "light," and ignorance as "darkness." Ask any Mason where he heard that, recently. {Lodge teachings} Anyone who wants to know about Freemasonry is best advised to get hold of a copy of "Freemasonry for Dummies;" a damned good book, under a sleazy title. All that also in with the Templar history/legends. [...and Freemasonry, of course.] Move onto DaVinci and other 'scientists,' nearly executed by the Church - the Church wanted control of all knowledge. If it didn't serve the Church coffers, it was satanic. The Jewish culture had a bunch of different sects, the "Jesus Sect" was expanded to include gentiles, falling further from 'local' approval, thus, it had to migrate. The rest is reasonably well-known history.
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