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Title: WHY IS A MARRIED JESUS SO THREATENING TO THE CHURCH?
Source: www.rumormillnews.com
URL Source: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=88821
Published: May 18, 2006
Author: RMN
Post Date: 2006-05-22 07:18:21 by Mind_Virus
Keywords: None
Views: 695
Comments: 52

WHY IS A MARRIED JESUS SO THREATENING TO THE CHURCH?

Date: Thursday, 18 May 2006, 4:25 p.m.

Is it because the Church has been exposed in a huge two thousand year long cover-up?

Was Jesus not virginal and celibate after all? He called himself the "son of man", emphasizing his human side. His followers called him "Rabbi", and rabbis were married men. With families. (Infertility was a valid reason for divorce among the Jews in Jesus' time. It still is, among Muslims whose traditions are very similar.)

So what, pray tell, is so shocking about Jesus being a married man? Does it really take away from his "divinity"? (Only for the brainwashed, surely.) Jesus' divinity vs humanity was a huge bone of contention among the earliest Christians who insisted that it had to be "either or". Instead of BOTH. In the early years of Christianity when few could read and ignorance was even more rampant than now (!) much blood was shed over this issue.

But the implications of Jesus having a family go much deeper....

gigi's post below suggests much older, deeper and darker Church secrets. From my own studies I have some sense of what those might be. The following thoughts are JMO---from three decades of studying this topic. And from investigative traveling in the south of France and in the MidEast.

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Ever since I read "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" in l982 I began to ponder why the Church was so desperate to suppress the idea of Jesus having progeny. The following ideas came to mind:

(A) Any direct bloodline descendants of Jesus would be the natural spiritual leaders of the Church-not the elected popes and cardinals. Thus the heirarchy and entire Roman political power structure of the Church would be threatened. Forever and ever.

(B) Some of the early Church leaders must have recognized that Jesus' extraordinary powers (healing, psychic abilities, "miracles", etc.) were derived from (what many believe is) extraterrestrial/human hybrid ancestry. The "gods" were known to have such superhuman skills. Consider that the "angel" Gabriel announced to Mary that she would conceive by the Holy Spirit. Is it so hard to imagine that "God" could arrange a "divine" pregnancy such as we saw with the Nefilim (the "gods" in Genesis 4), with Abraham's disbelieving Sarah, and in recent times with UFO abductees? Mankind has long viewed ET's as "divine" gods due to their advanced powers.

A heavily suppressed but age-old truth is that our planet has been periodically and continually seeded by extraterrestrials for many millenia. The bees frequently found in esoteric and Church d33;cor are indications of the divine "flying ones"...for those who Know. The symbolism of the "tower" also refers to early ET technology. "Magdala" means TOWER.

(C) A sacred bloodline with extraordinary spiritual powers would have to be eradicated if the politics of the early Roman Church were to successfully dominate the "civilized" world. Ancient sacred mysteries and knowledge were suppressed or declared heresy. For example, slaves and ordinary people could not be allowed to know the basic truth of reincarnation (karmic justice and continuous life is too hopeful). Most (not all) references to it were apparently edited out of the canonical scriptures. Its champion, the cleric Origen, was declared "anathema" and expelled by the Council of Nicea (325 CE) where scriptures were approved (canon) or censored (apocrypha/heresy). So the pogroms began....

Those who insist that the Bible was written by men have a strong argument if they are referring to the editing and censoring done at Nicea. :<))

(D) The once powerful Knights Templar are believed to have guarded the holy grail, now finally understood as the holy bloodline itself. During the first millenium CE the sacred bloodline became the French royal "Merovingian" line which the Church tried to eradicate-unsuccessfuly. The royal houses of Europe all wanted to interbreed with this line, and many did so. These facts must have been known to Pope Clement (who showed NO "clemency"!) when he, collaborating with the French king in 1307, ordered the mass arrest, trials, tortures and executions of the Templars.

At that point the majority of the Templars fled and dispersed by land and sea to many countries, and went "underground". Thence they have operated in the shadows, presumably still protecting the holy grail/bloodline. From them are descended the Freemasons who were later infiltrated by the Illuminati (founded only in May 1776 by Weisskopf of Bavaria.)

(E) The "Priory of Sion" may (or may not) be a modern invention serving as a "red herring" (false lead) to protect the identity of the actual bloodline (holy grail). There are now certainly millions who knowingly--and unknowingly--carry the sacred bloodline of Jesus and Mary from their daughter "Sarah" (meaning "royal").

People refer to the "children" of Jesus and Mary, but I am not aware of others besides Sarah whose existence is heavily documented in French legends, churches, and folklore. If any reader knows anything about siblings of Sarah, I would like to know references, sources, etc. (Thank you!)

A Merovingian direct descendant, Princess Diana was evidently chosen to help to empower the failing British monarchy with her sacred-blooded sons. We may remember that her older sister SARAH (!) was the Windsors' first choice, but was probably not a virgin, a royal requirement. So the job fell to young Diana. The goddess of the hunt, Diana gave the Windsors a "run for their money"--and two holy-blooded heirs.

Pierre Plantard, the current head of the Priory of Sion has now sworn that he invented the Priory in the l950's.

The Church and TV producers have swallowed his story whole, since it suits their Church agenda of discrediting the idea of a bloodline. Others insist that the Priory was founded in l099 by the Knights Templar as a secret organization to document the sacred bloodline.

(F) Imagine: if millions now carry the bloodline of Jesus, might this not be one aspect of the promised "Second Coming?" A "Second Coming" not controlled by any organized religion, but fed as the universal "Christ Consciousness" through humanity itself! :<))

******************* So whether or not you choose to see "The DaVinci Code" film. do consider the provocative questions it raises. And look into the rapidly expanding source material like "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" (1982-in paperback) and discern the truth for yourself.

Truth now prevails increasingly. Suppression, no matter how "loud" is no longer possible in this new millenium of "Truthtime".

Blessings and enLightenment to all~~ Namaskar

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#1. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

Because it would prove the Bible is a lie.

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-05-22   7:29:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Because it would prove the Bible is a lie.

Source: Presbytera Constantinou of the Greek Orthodox Church.

...What about "secret" writings that were suppressed, as claimed by the Da Vinci Code?

The word apocrypha means, hidden. (Perhaps this is where the author of Da Vinci Code got his ideas.) People who wrote these counterfeit books had a problem: how to get people to read the books. Why would anyone read these books when Christians already had a New Testament? To encourage people to read these counterfeit Christian books (apocrypha) that came into existence much later than the genuine books, people claimed the apocrypha were written by the apostles and contained hidden or secret teachings of Jesus available only to an elite few. (This is something like enticing people to participate in a financial scam where they are promised that only a few will be allowed "in" on the secret of how to get rich.) The authors of these counterfeit books wrote them to promote their heresies, such as Gnosticism. Gnosticism was a serious problem in the early Church. Gnostics denied the human nature of Christ. They said that Christ was only divine, one of many divine beings that exist. He only seemed to be human and only seemed to die on the cross. This heresy is called "Docetism," from the Greek word dokeo "to seem" or "to appear." Gnostics claimed that Jesus did not come to earth to die of the salvation of human beings. He came to earth to reveal secret knowledge about how to get to heaven to a few elite "spiritual" disciples. The only people who could go to heaven were those who had acquired the secret knowledge (gnosis). How does this compare to what we know about the Lord? On the contrary, the Lord made a point of having a very public ministry. To say that people were saved only by secret knowledge would be to make His whole life and teachings a lie, as well as making the existence and purpose of the Christian Church entirely pointless. In fact, the Lord stated that He taught nothing secretly. When He was brought to the high priest Annas, who questioned Him about His teachings, the Lord replied, "I have spoken openly to the world. I have always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where all Jews come together. I have said nothing secretly. Why do you ask me? Ask those who have heard me what I said to them. They know what I said." (John. 18:20-21. For this reply a guard struck the Lord.).

The Da Vinci Code is a work of fiction, but the author claims it is based on fact. However, its details are factually untrue or the interpretation or meaning he gives them are untrue. His skill as a writer and his obvious anti-Christian and anti-Catholic agenda have led many people to question their faith and to at least wonder whether the book is true. The author says that the powerful interests in the Catholic Church -- "The Vatican" -- suppressed information about Christ. First, the Catholic Church did not exist as a separate entity until the 11th century. The powerful and highly organized Vatican he describes did not evolve until even later than that. Secondly, in the first centuries of Christianity, the Church did not have the type of organization or centralized leadership, such as the modern papacy, which would make possible the suppression of details about the life of Christ. The author claims the Church concealed the fact that Jesus was married and had children. It also claims that Mary Magdalene was the chief apostle and that Jesus was an ordinary human being, not divine at all. It should be noted there would have been no reason for the Church to hide a marriage of Jesus, were it true. Marriage is not a sin. Had Jesus been married there would have been nothing sinful in that or in his having children. The baby and the marital relationship, had it been true, far from being hidden would have been extremely important in the early Church, just as His mother was extremely important in the early Church. Jesus would have presumably been the model of a married man, rather than the model of a celibate man. Christians would have been accustomed to the idea. In truth and fact, Jesus never married because He knew the purpose of His coming to earth was to die on the cross and He was completely devoted to this purpose. There would have been no point in getting married.

Could the Church have suppressed such information if it wanted to do so?

No, it would have been impossible for the Church to erase or expunge every writing that would have made mention of Jesus being married or having a child because that type of centralized control never existed in the early Church. It also would have been impossible because books were hand-copied in antiquity and there was no control over the process of who copied books and who acquired them.

Could the Da Vinci Code claims be true nonetheless? Is there any evidence that Jesus was married?

There are many, many Christian writings of different types – from the end of the first century through the second century and beyond - and none of these ever mention Jesus being married or having a child. Even the apocryphal gospels of the third and fourth centuries never mention anything like that. This idea is entirely imaginary. The author of the Da Vinci Code also claims that Mary Magdalene was the leading apostle. First, be aware there is a strong feminist movement pushing this idea as part of a larger agenda, along with the idea that God is male-female and that the Church is somehow anti-female. But, in fact. women had important leadership positions in the early Church, including that of "apostle." But the term apostle had a wider meaning in the early Church. The Greek word apostle, apostelos, means "one who is sent." Jesus sent many people to preach, not simply The Twelve. The term apostle as used in the early Church meant someone who had been part of the earthly ministry of Church before the crucifixion and who had also witness him after the Resurrection alive again. (See Romans 16:7 for mention of apostles who are not among the Twelve). Apostle was not used to mean what it does today, a term synonymous with The Twelve. In fact, the Bible calls The Twelve, simply that: "The Twelve" (See Luke 22:3, John 20:24. In Luke 24:33 he calls them "the Eleven," without Judas). Since apostle did note mean The Twelve as it does for us today, it is correct to say that women, such as Mary Magdalene, Fotini (the Samaritan woman at the well), and Junia, mentioned in Romans 16:7 were among the female apostles of the early Church. Is there any hinted conspiracy behind the Last Supper painting by Leonardo Da Vinci? The author of the Da Vinci code claims that one of the figures portrayed among The Twelve was a woman. The obvious and simple answer is that Leonardo Da Vinci would have had absolutely no historical knowledge of what first century Jewish garments looked like. Ancient Jews did not create paintings or statues, so Leonardo relied solely on his imagination in his painting. There is nothing historical about the painting, including what was on the table or even the fact that The Twelve are seated around a table.

scooter  posted on  2006-05-22   9:57:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The Da Vinci Code is a work of fiction, but the author claims it is based on fact. However, its details are factually untrue or the interpretation or meaning he gives them are untrue. His skill as a writer and his obvious anti-Christian and anti-Catholic agenda have led many people to question their faith and to at least wonder whether the book is true.

As it was meant to do.

Then the movie was made by those pushing this agenda, and how long are we going to have to hear about it... It is being so heavily promoted, I'm afraid this nonsense will go on and on till we are all sick of it, even those of us who can't even call ourselves proper Christians.

Diana  posted on  2006-05-22   10:51:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#10. To: All, A K A Stone (#8)

Excuse me, Da Vinci.

(I'm starting to sound like Stone!)

Diana  posted on  2006-05-22 10:59:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As it was meant to do.

Then the movie was made by those pushing this agenda, and how long are we going to have to hear about it... It is being so heavily promoted, I'm afraid this nonsense will go on and on till we are all sick of it, even those of us who can't even call ourselves proper Christians.

I admit that I saw the movie over the weekend and loved it. It was a good movie and that's all it was, a good movie. Doesn't cause me to question anything. I may read the book at some point, or not. Haven't decided.

The only concern I have is of those who aren't aware of Church history and for whatever reason, won't take the time to do some investigation. People who will take what they see and hear in this age of media and treat it is unquestioned truth. And yes, there does seem to be an agenda at work. The Gospel of Judas release just prior to Easter and this movie's release the weekend prior to the Roman Catholic observence of Ascension Day (Thursday, 25th; Orthodox 6/1)) don't seem like accidents. Like Christ's parable of the roots on various soils, those who have shallow roots (or no roots at all) will be easily swayed. And that is probably intended.

scooter  posted on  2006-05-22 13:36:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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