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Title: I surrender...this shall never be a current news and commetary forum
Source: Brian S
URL Source: [None]
Published: May 23, 2006
Author: Brian S
Post Date: 2006-05-23 01:02:21 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 3995
Comments: 124

Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.

No problem here, every ship has its course/mission

Now mind you, this is not an opus as I may post a "earth swallowed by a busty lesbian" article as need warrants.

I thank all of you for the consideration and kindness afforded to me at this venue.

Take care and tamp the ground before you.

See ya around.

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#12. To: Brian S (#0)

I appreciated the articles you posted because your focus was on point. I would also appreciate it if you would continue to post articles because you find relevant material that I don't have time to locate myself.

Like Cat Stevens says "if you have to leave, take good care, but just remember there's a lot of bad and beware" ...

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Kennedy Assassination ... Bush (I) did it !

9-11 ... Bush (II) did it !

"Sarah if the American people ever find out what we have done to them, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us". [George H. W. Bush to Sarah McClendon]

noone222  posted on  2006-05-23   6:54:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S (#0)

Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.

I sincerely believe that is a mistaken perception.

I read most of your news posts. Even though I'd like the news to be different, I do appreciate that you don't make it up and are just posting it for my (our) edification.

I would hope you reconsider and continue posting. The forum is still growing, and it has not yet, IMO, reached critical mass.

Your efforts are appreciated, though perhaps too seldom noted.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2006-05-23   7:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Neil McIver (#11)

It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?

I would.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-05-23   7:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Brian S (#0)

news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.

i couldn't disagree more.

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   9:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Brian S (#0)

It seems to me that the people on this forum are talking about current news/events almost constantly. So, maybe you're talking to the wrong people, or you have a different idea of 'current news/events'.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-05-23   9:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Brian S (#0)

Since you've posted your perception and criticism, let me post mine. My observation is that you post your articles but very seldom answer replies to them. There's no other way to keep a thread going other than conversing and answering those who have commented to your article. Few here have the time, including myself, to read and comment to everything posted but let me assure you, we get a lot of hits to this site.

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   9:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Brian S (#0)

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, Brian: your posts are read and appreciated very much here.

If we didn't have some "busty lesbian" threads, our heads would explode from dealing solely with the horrors of the world around us.

Bear with those of us who need some inane relief from time to time.

Cheers.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-23   9:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lodwick (#18)

Ditto's Jim. I like Brian's material *and* busty lesbian stuff.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-05-23   9:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Brian S (#0)

Happy trails to you, until we meet again.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2006-05-23   9:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Brian S, Neil McIver, Zipporah, christine, Mind_Virus (#0)

Okay, I admit it. The Hello Kitty® Stratocaster® thread wasn't one of my more redeeming efforts.

But, like others I read much and respond seldom, mainly because you all seem to know each other and butting in doesn't seem like the thing to do.

But, your posts are appreciated if that means anything.

Neil responded in a timely manner with a meaningful question and apparent desire to appreciate your efforts, and Zip and chris both expressed their appreciation.

Mind_Virus posts here in bulk and rarely comments or discusses the topics. He knows folks read his posts, and you should know that we read yours.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   9:43:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21)

But, like others I read much and respond seldom, mainly because you all seem to know each other and butting in doesn't seem like the thing to do.

Butt it is the thing to do, honest.

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-23   9:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21)

The only way we get to know any posters here is by replying and offering our thoughts and opinions, and visiting with others...don't consider it butting in, just saying what's on your mind.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-23   9:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robin, lodwick (#22)

Thank you.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   10:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: HOUNDDAWG, all (#21)

We need to have fun occasionally Dawg, or our heads would explode. It's unhealthy to focus on doom and gloom all the time, occasionally we need to laugh and rip up the rug a bit :)

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-05-23   10:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: HOUNDDAWG, mehitable, Zipporah, robin, ALL (#21)

great comments! hey, zip and i consider you one of us. you've been here long enough to not have to worry about butting in so please don't worry about that another second. i enjoy the vanity and 4Play articles because that is how we get to know each other on a more personal level and, like mehitable said, we need a break from the constant bad news. we all need fun and laughter, or most of us do, that's why those threads do well! ;)

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   10:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mehitable, Brian S (#25)

We need to have fun occasionally Dawg, or our heads would explode. It's unhealthy to focus on doom and gloom all the time, occasionally we need to laugh and rip up the rug a bit :)

That's why I appreciate Brian starting another vanity thread for me!

(just kidding)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   10:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: HOUNDDAWG (#27)

good one! :P

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   10:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#11)

It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?

I second that emotion.

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-05-23   10:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: bluegrass (#29)

I second that emotion.

You're a closet MOTOWN fan!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   10:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Brian S (#0)

Disagree. I read most of your stuff, but just don't have the time to respond.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-23   10:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#28)

Thanks!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   10:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Brian S (#0)

Speaking for myself; I prefer to read the articles, digest them, and move on. I'll grant you articles posted at other forums may wind up with several hundred responses, but 90% of those responses are irrelevant fluff, or turn into pissing matches between people who need to get over themselves. Look at the one here the other day between AKA Stone and those lesbian witches...what a snoozer. If I want to hear people yelling and screaming at each other; I can go to a city council meeting when the school budget is being discussed. In that case, there is always the possibility that somebody's clothes might get ripped off. :-)

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-23   10:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Brian S, Christine, Zipporah, Neil McIver, lodwick (#0)

Brian, I wasn't going to reply to this thread--seriously--but rather just read comments made by others. However, a couple of things were noted I'd like to comment on.

Firstly, I read many articles, and seldom comment. Saying 'ditto' or 'bttt' seem to not be saying much. However, I have noticed in the last couple of weeks, as apparently Chrissie has, too, that seldom, if ever, have I received a comment on whatever I write on threads you initiate.

Truly, this past week I've begun to think 'why bother' if it's only a race to post articles for the sake of posting articles.

Secondly, I don't seem to have as much time on my hands as I have had at different times--lots of demand being made by yardwork and more importantly, studying my Bible.

Thirdly, Neil commented about the effectiveness of a 'number of views' tab. I believe this is a great idea. I happen to read on some horse forums and have been amazed at the number of 'reads' vs the number of comments. An example: someone posts a picture of a newborn foal. There may be 4 comments and 140 views. Or someone poses a question about trimming feet. There may be 5 comments or so, but 300 views!

More telling is that on the one that is more attuned to pleasure horses, there are over 800 registered members (you have to register in order to even read on the board), of which probably 25 post with any sort of regularity. And yet if you look at the number of views, they are in the hundreds. And there are always someone coming on with "I usually lurk but because of the topic I want to add my two cents, or whatever....".

Having a viewership count would/could also be an indicator to thread initiators, and others, as to the "worth" of the article compared to comments written.

Fourthly, loddy was right--there are times you have to lighten up and be silly in order to not lose it! That even occurs on those horse forums I visit-- especially during foaling season.

Fifthly, or finally, yet probably most important, I appreciate all the efforts you've put into locating articles worthy of reading. You did the same yeoman work at TOS2, though most of them knuckle-dragging, kneepadding, didn't have the sense to read the article and attack the content or the doer of the content--they preferred you, the messenger.

I believe this plays a major part here, Brian, because in general we mostly are fairly like-minded in the political, governmental realm.

I do hope you will reconsider what seems to be notice that you won't be around much. Regardless, thank you for what you've done in the past.

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-23   11:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: who knows what evil, Neil McIver, Brian S, zipporah, christine, mehitable, robin, lodwick (#33)

Speaking for myself; I prefer to read the articles, digest them, and move on. I'll grant you articles posted at other forums may wind up with several hundred responses, but 90% of those responses are irrelevant fluff....

My persona exists in that netherworld of irrelevant fluff....

I'm so ashamed.

I wonder if Neil has thought about booting me, yet?

here's the Hello Kitty® Stratocaster® link again:

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=25643&Disp=10#C10

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   11:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Brian S (#0)

Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.

I don't know if this is true. Most people here read the article and I know that many people who rarely post here come often to read.

What might be giving you a bad impression is that the people here pretty much all know each other. They go back a long way. This results in more personal chat than on other news forums. But it doesn't mean that people don't make serious comments on the articles too.

The people here also joke around a lot. This does affect the tone of the forum, but it also brings in lurkers and new members. People will come back again if they see something that makes them laugh. When they come back, they usually read and participate in the serious side of the forum as well.

Had I the power, I would be very reluctant to put an end to the joking around. Something is working here. This forum is very strong and has a high traffic volume for a forum this age. Have Christine show you, it is probably higher than you realize.

And what can the forum owners do anyway? You touch on this and you probably realize they have very little control over what goes up. This is on purpose too. They don't want to decide on content, and the people who post here didn't want that either. So the owners are not really to blame for what goes on. Their feeling is that if someone doesn't like it, they can bozo or scroll by.

A really free forum is also a slightly messy forum. You could tighten up the operation in an hour, but you might then be left with a very orderly two post per day forum.

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...  posted on  2006-05-23   11:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: rowdee, Brian S (#34)

Fifthly, or finally, yet probably most important, I appreciate all the efforts you've put into locating articles worthy of reading. You did the same yeoman work at TOS2, though most of them knuckle-dragging, kneepadding, didn't have the sense to read the article and attack the content or the doer of the content--they preferred you, the messenger.

My observation too..maybe that's what you miss, Brian? The truth is, the articles you post are appreciated far more here than they ever were on LP.

I very much appreciate your comments, Dee.

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   11:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Brian S (#0)

Since I replied this morning I went back and looked at LP at the replies you got there.. and 99% of them are flaming you or making fun of you in some manner.. not sure if that is what you miss ..here you certainly dont get that treatment..so not sure what your beef is other than that you arent getting as many replies here.. personally I go for the quality rather than the quantity..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   11:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: rowdee (#34)

Good post - thanks for taking the time.

The number of "views" would be a great addition here - sometimes, I just can't bring myself to say ANYTHING - like today's "OMG - My, eyes" post: I read the article and the commentary, but since it will probably put me "off" sex for a month, or so, I chose to move on as quickly as possible, praying that horrible image to leave my mind.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-23   11:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)

My persona exists in that netherworld of irrelevant fluff....

I'm so ashamed.

I wonder if Neil has thought about booting me, yet?

Shame shame shame.. ;)

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   11:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Zipporah (#40)

Shame shame shame.. ;)

Oh, GOOD GRIEF!

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   11:31:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: HOUNDDAWG (#41)

the jpg!! adorable!!

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   11:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: HOUNDDAWG (#41)

Oh, GOOD GRIEF!

Aahhh.. poor little puppy.. will a rub behind the ears make it better?? ;P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   11:41:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: ... (#36)

very well said...accurate..thank you.

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   12:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: lodwick (#39)

Well........ah..........er...........thankx for the 'heads up' regarding THAT story! Eweeeeeeee. :)

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-23   12:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Zipporah, Brian S (#38)

Since I replied this morning I went back and looked at LP at the replies you got there.. and 99% of them are flaming you or making fun of you in some manner.. not sure if that is what you miss ..here you certainly dont get that treatment..so not sure what your beef is other than that you arent getting as many replies here.. personally I go for the quality rather than the quantity..

Exactly. Why should I read one article, followed by 40 nonsensical posts or so; when I can devote the same time to reading SEVERAL of Brian's articles, and actually LEARN something.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-23   12:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)

LOL. I had forgotten THAT thread.....

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-23   12:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: rowdee (#47)

LOL. I had forgotten THAT thread.....

Do you like kitties as much as you like horsies?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   12:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Neil McIver (#11)

It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?

I think this would be a great addition to the forum and a welcomed feature to your wonderful forum software.

Brian S  posted on  2006-05-23   12:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: HOUNDDAWG (#48)

Not too crazy about pink kitties.........but I love cats, dogs, horses, and most other animals.

Right now I have a mustang and a cutting quarter horse living on my property. My 18-1.2 year old brother and sister cats died a couple of years back. Only have my 3-legged Border Collie, Luv, now.

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-23   12:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Neil McIver (#11)

It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?

Neil, before you add that feature please look into the problem of searching on titles, it appears no search is taking place and the results prove it. Also, I think it would be a good feature to have an automatic search on the title of the article take place when previewing an article about to be posted. If there is a match then warn the poster that it appears this article was already posted. This would greatly cut down on duplicate articles being posted which is happening more and more since the title search doesn’t work properly anymore.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-23   13:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: RickyJ (#51)

Neil, before you add that feature please look into the problem of searching on titles, it appears no search is taking place and the results prove it.

I did see that thread and tested it. Yes there's a problem. Searching on a single word seems to work fine, but multiple words seems to have incomplete results. I've not yet examined the code to see what's going on.

Searching on titles is certainly useful, but not particularly efficient for the computer as it is (or was) working. But that could be improved.

Also, I think it would be a good feature to have an automatic search on the title of the article take place when previewing an article about to be posted. If there is a match then warn the poster that it appears this article was already posted. This would greatly cut down on duplicate articles being posted which is happening more and more since the title search doesn’t work properly anymore.

A dup article dectector is on the list. I've not done much with the software of late due to other duties, but I should get a number of things done before too long. A dup article detector would ideally be smart enough to detect similar titles, and the coding logic for that would be an interesting challenge.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   13:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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