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Title: I surrender...this shall never be a current news and commetary forum
Source: Brian S
URL Source: [None]
Published: May 23, 2006
Author: Brian S
Post Date: 2006-05-23 01:02:21 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 4025
Comments: 124

Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.

No problem here, every ship has its course/mission

Now mind you, this is not an opus as I may post a "earth swallowed by a busty lesbian" article as need warrants.

I thank all of you for the consideration and kindness afforded to me at this venue.

Take care and tamp the ground before you.

See ya around.

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#43. To: HOUNDDAWG (#41)

Oh, GOOD GRIEF!

Aahhh.. poor little puppy.. will a rub behind the ears make it better?? ;P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   11:41:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: ... (#36)

very well said...accurate..thank you.

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   12:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: lodwick (#39)

Well........ah..........er...........thankx for the 'heads up' regarding THAT story! Eweeeeeeee. :)

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-23   12:20:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Zipporah, Brian S (#38)

Since I replied this morning I went back and looked at LP at the replies you got there.. and 99% of them are flaming you or making fun of you in some manner.. not sure if that is what you miss ..here you certainly dont get that treatment..so not sure what your beef is other than that you arent getting as many replies here.. personally I go for the quality rather than the quantity..

Exactly. Why should I read one article, followed by 40 nonsensical posts or so; when I can devote the same time to reading SEVERAL of Brian's articles, and actually LEARN something.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-23   12:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)

LOL. I had forgotten THAT thread.....

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-23   12:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: rowdee (#47)

LOL. I had forgotten THAT thread.....

Do you like kitties as much as you like horsies?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   12:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Neil McIver (#11)

It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?

I think this would be a great addition to the forum and a welcomed feature to your wonderful forum software.

Brian S  posted on  2006-05-23   12:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: HOUNDDAWG (#48)

Not too crazy about pink kitties.........but I love cats, dogs, horses, and most other animals.

Right now I have a mustang and a cutting quarter horse living on my property. My 18-1.2 year old brother and sister cats died a couple of years back. Only have my 3-legged Border Collie, Luv, now.

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-23   12:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Neil McIver (#11)

It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?

Neil, before you add that feature please look into the problem of searching on titles, it appears no search is taking place and the results prove it. Also, I think it would be a good feature to have an automatic search on the title of the article take place when previewing an article about to be posted. If there is a match then warn the poster that it appears this article was already posted. This would greatly cut down on duplicate articles being posted which is happening more and more since the title search doesn’t work properly anymore.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-23   13:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: RickyJ (#51)

Neil, before you add that feature please look into the problem of searching on titles, it appears no search is taking place and the results prove it.

I did see that thread and tested it. Yes there's a problem. Searching on a single word seems to work fine, but multiple words seems to have incomplete results. I've not yet examined the code to see what's going on.

Searching on titles is certainly useful, but not particularly efficient for the computer as it is (or was) working. But that could be improved.

Also, I think it would be a good feature to have an automatic search on the title of the article take place when previewing an article about to be posted. If there is a match then warn the poster that it appears this article was already posted. This would greatly cut down on duplicate articles being posted which is happening more and more since the title search doesn’t work properly anymore.

A dup article dectector is on the list. I've not done much with the software of late due to other duties, but I should get a number of things done before too long. A dup article detector would ideally be smart enough to detect similar titles, and the coding logic for that would be an interesting challenge.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   13:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Brian S (#49)

I'll add that to the list.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   13:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: rowdee (#50)

Right now I have a mustang and a cutting quarter horse living on my property. My 18-1.2 year old brother and sister cats died a couple of years back. Only have my 3-legged Border Collie, Luv, now.

Tell me more about the horses!

A mustang is what HILDAGO was, right? ;)

And, what's a cutting quarter horse?

(I ride mules, mostly! The Dupont Company supplies everyone in Delaware with free mules. Yep, I just go to the corner hitching post and grab any available mule and ride him to a post near my home! [wink] )

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   13:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Neil McIver (#52)

A dup article detector would ideally be smart enough to detect similar titles, and the coding logic for that would be an interesting challenge.

Check out the big brain on Neil!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   13:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Neil McIver (#52)

A dup article detector would ideally be smart enough to detect similar titles, and the coding logic for that would be an interesting challenge.

If the case of checking for dup articles, I wonder if perhaps searching on the first 6 or so words of the article might be more effective.

Identical articles can have many different titles (AP is notorious for this) but usually the first paragraph of the articles are consistent.

Brian S  posted on  2006-05-23   13:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Neil McIver, Brian S (#53)

It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?

I too think that feature would be a valuable one to have.

Brian S, now I'm going to have to start using the 'bot BUMP! so you'll know I've read your articles. I often read and cruise and lurk without comment/reply.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-05-23   13:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: RickyJ, Neil McIver (#51)

yep. agree.

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   13:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: HOUNDDAWG (#54)

Who or what is HILDAGO?

This one's name is Wolf; his owner broke mustans for BLM; had a chance to get him, so he did. This is a horse worth knowing. Seriously. His owner uses him to move cattle, to check range conditions, etc. Last year, on one of the big outings, the ranch owner provided water for the riders....not Dom Perrione, but Wolf's Dad got PEACH flavored water. At one of the stops, he dismounted and opened his water bottle for a swig. Wolf turned to him with his lip quivering, so owner poured a tad in the palm of his hand; Wolf slurped it up; after a couple of times of that, and the ol' boy trying to get to the bottle top, the owner just stuck it in his mouth and poured it--like when they put a tube of worming med in their mouth.

Wolfer loved it. Owner makes sure they have a bottle of peach for all their trips!

The cutting horse is a registered quarter horse that is used for close in working with cattle, to separate an animal from the rest of the herd--something they do not like to do, that is, to be separated from the rest of the cattle. This horse is Hawk. And he's a hoot and a half, too. Get a rider in the saddle and he is fearless in working to split cows and calves.

And yet here, last year, there were 2 cows sharing the pasture. One was a late calver and the other had a calf with a broken leg. Anytime that calf would come near Hawk, he'd run like hell--scared of the baby!

Buck likes to use Wolf in the wild terrain out here. He's really a sure-footed animal and an extremely easy keeper. He will eat sage brush, weeds, whatever...not picky at all. We believe that comes from his being out on the desert range til he was captured, about 2 years old.

Hawk is usable out on the range, but he is more valuable with the ranch work he can do--like splitting cattle out to be worked on.

Before the place next door sold, my neighbors had mules. Good riding mules. The wife preferred riding the mules. They can be onery and contrary. When I had my sheep here, the neighbors put a hot line up over the top of the fencing to keep the mules from reaching over or thru the fence to grab the sheep.

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-23   13:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Brian S (#56)

If the case of checking for dup articles, I wonder if perhaps searching on the first 6 or so words of the article might be more effective.

Identical articles can have many different titles (AP is notorious for this) but usually the first paragraph of the articles are consistent.

What about cases where there's a Reuters version and an AP version of the same story? My current plan is to do something like compare the words with more than 3 or 4 letters. More than an 80% match would be a positive test result. Something like that.

I certainly don't expect people to be using the title search to look for dups.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   13:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Fred Mertz (#57)

I'm going to have to start using the 'bot BUMP! so you'll know I've read your articles.

bot bump ping list?

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   13:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Neil McIver (#60)

I certainly don't expect people to be using the title search to look for dups.

Why not use the title search to look for duplicate items? Similar articles are not the same articles. Some reveal new information or updated information. I would think the title search would do for finding duplicate articles most of the time. Of course you would only have to search back for maybe one week from the present date, which would greatly improve the speed of the search I would think.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-23   13:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Zipporah (#38)

  Exactly. This forum doesn`t have the left vs right, or the DEM vs REP trash debates. Most of the members here are on the same page about current events and other subjects.

  There are a couple here who don`t agree with the views on certain events, but overall this forum is a safe haven from the WWF BS, that ruins most other forums.

   There are plenty of forums where you can read how great Hillary and the DEMS are, or how Bush and the REPS are saving us from the terrorists.

  I post here because of the fact that we are like minded, independent of the two party system, and help each other research topics we have in common. I think in the past, I`ve thanked Brian for his tireless posting of all range of articles and subjects.

  So, Brian if you missed my past post, thanks for the articles.

Kamala  posted on  2006-05-23   13:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: RickyJ (#62)

Why not use the title search to look for duplicate items?

Just because it seems a pain to do every time you want to post something.

Of course you would only have to search back for maybe one week from the present date, which would greatly improve the speed of the search I would think.

If the purpose of that is just to find out if what you're about to post has already been posted, then the software should do the screening footwork automatically. I'd rather spend time making that than adding a 1 week feature to the title searching.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   13:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Neil McIver (#64)

If the purpose of that is just to find out if what you're about to post has already been posted, then the software should do the screening footwork automatically. I'd rather spend time making that than adding a 1 week feature to the title searching.

Oh I agree that it would be good to have the software do this automatically. I just guess I don't see the real need to find similar articles with different titles when searching for a duplicate article. An article may be similar to another article yet reveal different information and/or have a different perspective.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-23   14:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Kamala (#63)

Exactly. This forum doesn`t have the left vs right, or the DEM vs REP trash debates. Most of the members here are on the same page about current events and other subjects.

There are a couple here who don`t agree with the views on certain events, but overall this forum is a safe haven from the WWF BS, that ruins most other forums.

There are plenty of forums where you can read how great Hillary and the DEMS are, or how Bush and the REPS are saving us from the terrorists.

I post here because of the fact that we are like minded, independent of the two party system, and help each other research topics we have in common.

I dont agree with all the posts here either just as with any other forum.. but we did create this forum to be just as you described.. a haven really from the flaming, the false left/right dichotomy, and especially PAID posters!! We appreciate each and every poster here.. and do try to acknowledge everyone but as we grow it gets more difficult.. but we'll keep trying!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   14:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: RickyJ (#65)

An article may be similar to another article yet reveal different information and/or have a different perspective.

Agreed. I'd say a poster can choose to post an article regardless of what matches came up. They would just be aware of what similar stories have been posted, and when they were posted.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   14:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: rowdee (#59)

Who or what is HILDAGO?

HILDAGO is a film starring Viggo Mortensen and a horse.

And, the mules would grab the sheep?

Now, that's what I call authentic frontier gibberish! ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   15:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Neil McIver (#60)

What about cases where there's a Reuters version and an AP version of the same story?

Well actually that won't be a duplicate article and I sort of like to see all versions of a story. AP, Reuters, AFP, etc.

Brian S  posted on  2006-05-23   16:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: HOUNDDAWG (#68)

Now, that's what I call authentic frontier gibberish! ;)

Call it whatever you want. They have been known to pick sheep, basically lambs or yearlings, up by the wool/skin of their spines. And why would I know that.....because the neighbors were aware of it. Bonnie was a sheep producer from a long time back. She actually spent time in the 'wilderness' with sheepherder's wagon and dogs doing summer herding of BANDS of sheep....a band being 1500 ewes with babies.

Before I moved in here, I had a fencing guy come in with a crew and put up sheeptight fencing all around the place--to keep dogs and other critters out. Bonnie knew I was moving sheep in from them. And when the sheep actually arrived they started putting up the electric fencing. At the time, IIRC, they had 5 mules in their pasture which abutts to mine.

Wanna argue about horses biting? I can refer you to an article where they just put down a stallion for knocking the handler down, trying to maul her with his knees (7 broken ribs, punctured lung) and severe horse bites all over her back. And this was a horse 'under control'--not just running loose.

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-23   16:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: rowdee (#70)

I can refer you to an article where they just put down a stallion for knocking the handler down, trying to maul her with his knees (7 broken ribs, punctured lung) and severe horse bites all over her back. And this was a horse 'under control'--not just running loose.

MadStudDisease? or just having one of those days?

:-)

Lod  posted on  2006-05-23   16:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: lodwick (#71)

Nah..........it was at a breeding farm. He had just bred a mare and was being taken back to his stall. Another stallion on the premises apparently whinnied, in jealousy no doubt, and he went bonkers.

It was a productive son of Seattle Slew, the Triple Crown winner back in '77, IIRC! But the owners of the horse, after consulting with the breeder and vets decided it was simply too dangerous to have such a horse around.

It wasn't as though the breeder had no experience, either. She's been doing it for 16 years.

Stallions can be quite dangerous. They just had two up in NY state where one was being led to his private paddock and another stallion in the general vicinity let out a squeal. AP Jet whirled, knocking his attendant down, and he charged towards that stud, who broke through his fencing and the fight was on.

What stopped it was when Gold Token apparently hit a tree while on the chase or being chased. Killed him instantly and they don't know if AP Jet is out of the woods yet.

They have 55 gallon barrel sized drums of hormones and a teaspoon sized brain...but then that describes most males! :)

rowdee  posted on  2006-05-23   17:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: rowdee (#70)

Actually, horses and mules scare me.

I don't want to be close to either end of them. And, I don't want to get run over by a wagon they're pulling, the way my grandpa Gabby HOUNDDAWG was!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-05-23   17:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: rowdee (#72)

They have 55 gallon barrel sized drums of hormones and a teaspoon sized brain...but then that describes most males! :)

LOL!! Youre right about horses .. not the brightest animals for sure.. it's been said they have a brain equal to the intelligence of a turtle!.. the most intelligent being Arabians.. I had a thorobred/app mix.. looney AND fast ..not a good mix.. :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   17:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: rowdee (#72)

They have 55 gallon barrel sized drums of hormones and a teaspoon sized brain...but then that describes most males!

Stupid question, but with this sort of financial loss potential, why the heck are they not going the AI route?

Lod  posted on  2006-05-23   17:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Brian S (#0)

we just have a small number of people on this site.

a lot of good articles get posted. but there's not many serious comments because there's few people. a lot more people read than comment though.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-05-23   18:11:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Brian S, All (#0)

Brian S., I have been lurking in this and past forums for almost 2 years following the like minds around. I recently joined so I could post some items and maybe bring a few things to the table. I don't expect replies on everything but it does feel good when someone speaks up.

I have noticed the articles you post here daily and I read most every one. (I usually skip the busty lesbian ones). News and commentary is the main focus of this site. There seems to be alot of old friends here that are more apt to post in a light-hearted or satirical article.

If you want some feedback, post some pro-Bush/NWO articles under a different account and watch the posts roll in. Not much to dispute or debate around here as we all are pretty much in the "know". There hasn't been an article posted here in months that could shock or amaze me into a reply frenzy.

The reason we all come here are the like-minded views we share on most subjects. Any average American who has done the research/news-gathering that is performed here becomes a Libertarian minded, pro-constitution, truth seeker.

BTW, This forum does need a page-veiw counter and maybe a "my posts" section. An article rating system might stimulate some responses but somehow I doubt it.

You keep posting 'em and I'll keep readin' 'em. Thanks Bri...

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950

j.sulli  posted on  2006-05-23   20:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: j.sulli, Neil McIver, christine (#77)

BTW, This forum does need a page-veiw counter and maybe a "my posts" section. An article rating system might stimulate some responses but somehow I doubt it.

Thanks.. we know how many views the site itself has but not individual articles nor do the posters.. it may be a good thing to add..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   20:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: j.sulli (#77)

The reason we all come here are the like-minded views we share on most subjects. Any average American who has done the research/news-gathering that is performed here becomes a Libertarian minded, pro-constitution, truth seeker.

Well stated - thanks for chiming in on this one...most everyone here reads all Brian's posts, whether they have any commentary or not.

His getting the stories out to us, is what really matters.

Cheers, JS.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-23   20:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: j.sulli, Neil McIver (#77)

thanks for your comments and suggestions, j. i've pinged neil since page view counter seems to be a feature everyone would like to see. what do you mean by 'my posts' section? do you mean other than 'check pings'?

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   20:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: lodwick (#79)

that would be "most READ" Brian's posts...

doh

Lod  posted on  2006-05-23   20:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: christine (#80)

what do you mean by 'my posts' section?

In the 'check pings' section, you can only see replies to your posts. If noone responds to your post, it gets lost in the memory hole. If there was a way to keep track of personal posts, people might reply just so the article would be saved in 'my posts'. This might stimulate replies as well.

I have tried many times to remember article titles to search with no luck (me brain no retain) and the keyword search is not working so well. But the 'check pings' section works great. A 'my posts' would be a handy tool.

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950

j.sulli  posted on  2006-05-23   20:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Zipporah (#78)

Does Alexa seem accurate?

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950

j.sulli  posted on  2006-05-23   20:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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