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Title: I surrender...this shall never be a current news and commetary forum
Source: Brian S
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Published: May 23, 2006
Author: Brian S
Post Date: 2006-05-23 01:02:21 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 7572
Comments: 124

Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.

No problem here, every ship has its course/mission

Now mind you, this is not an opus as I may post a "earth swallowed by a busty lesbian" article as need warrants.

I thank all of you for the consideration and kindness afforded to me at this venue.

Take care and tamp the ground before you.

See ya around.

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#11. To: Brian S, christine, Zipporah (#0)

It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   5:35:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?

Neil, before you add that feature please look into the problem of searching on titles, it appears no search is taking place and the results prove it. Also, I think it would be a good feature to have an automatic search on the title of the article take place when previewing an article about to be posted. If there is a match then warn the poster that it appears this article was already posted. This would greatly cut down on duplicate articles being posted which is happening more and more since the title search doesn’t work properly anymore.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-23   13:04:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Neil, before you add that feature please look into the problem of searching on titles, it appears no search is taking place and the results prove it.

I did see that thread and tested it. Yes there's a problem. Searching on a single word seems to work fine, but multiple words seems to have incomplete results. I've not yet examined the code to see what's going on.

Searching on titles is certainly useful, but not particularly efficient for the computer as it is (or was) working. But that could be improved.

Also, I think it would be a good feature to have an automatic search on the title of the article take place when previewing an article about to be posted. If there is a match then warn the poster that it appears this article was already posted. This would greatly cut down on duplicate articles being posted which is happening more and more since the title search doesn’t work properly anymore.

A dup article dectector is on the list. I've not done much with the software of late due to other duties, but I should get a number of things done before too long. A dup article detector would ideally be smart enough to detect similar titles, and the coding logic for that would be an interesting challenge.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   13:11:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

A dup article detector would ideally be smart enough to detect similar titles, and the coding logic for that would be an interesting challenge.

If the case of checking for dup articles, I wonder if perhaps searching on the first 6 or so words of the article might be more effective.

Identical articles can have many different titles (AP is notorious for this) but usually the first paragraph of the articles are consistent.

Brian S  posted on  2006-05-23   13:19:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If the case of checking for dup articles, I wonder if perhaps searching on the first 6 or so words of the article might be more effective.

Identical articles can have many different titles (AP is notorious for this) but usually the first paragraph of the articles are consistent.

What about cases where there's a Reuters version and an AP version of the same story? My current plan is to do something like compare the words with more than 3 or 4 letters. More than an 80% match would be a positive test result. Something like that.

I certainly don't expect people to be using the title search to look for dups.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   13:46:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I certainly don't expect people to be using the title search to look for dups.

Why not use the title search to look for duplicate items? Similar articles are not the same articles. Some reveal new information or updated information. I would think the title search would do for finding duplicate articles most of the time. Of course you would only have to search back for maybe one week from the present date, which would greatly improve the speed of the search I would think.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-23   13:53:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Why not use the title search to look for duplicate items?

Just because it seems a pain to do every time you want to post something.

Of course you would only have to search back for maybe one week from the present date, which would greatly improve the speed of the search I would think.

If the purpose of that is just to find out if what you're about to post has already been posted, then the software should do the screening footwork automatically. I'd rather spend time making that than adding a 1 week feature to the title searching.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   13:58:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If the purpose of that is just to find out if what you're about to post has already been posted, then the software should do the screening footwork automatically. I'd rather spend time making that than adding a 1 week feature to the title searching.

Oh I agree that it would be good to have the software do this automatically. I just guess I don't see the real need to find similar articles with different titles when searching for a duplicate article. An article may be similar to another article yet reveal different information and/or have a different perspective.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-23   14:05:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

An article may be similar to another article yet reveal different information and/or have a different perspective.

Agreed. I'd say a poster can choose to post an article regardless of what matches came up. They would just be aware of what similar stories have been posted, and when they were posted.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-23   14:31:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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