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Title: I surrender...this shall never be a current news and commetary forum
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Brian S
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Published: May 23, 2006
Author: Brian S
Post Date: 2006-05-23 01:02:21 by Brian S
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Views: 3981
Comments: 124
Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum. No problem here, every ship has its course/mission Now mind you, this is not an opus as I may post a "earth swallowed by a busty lesbian" article as need warrants. I thank all of you for the consideration and kindness afforded to me at this venue. Take care and tamp the ground before you. See ya around.
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Oh really ?? Not my experience whatsover..
I don't understand your comment, Brian. It looks to me that we are discussing news and commentary constantly. What do you feel is missing?
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Brian S...just because people don't post responses doesn't mean you aren't having an impact. I read your posted articles often, but am just as often too busy to post. I know it disappoints when you post something important and get little response. I experience the same disappointment often. Nevertheless, having good, relevant, and revealing articles posted in one place is invaluable. So I hope you'll keep up your good work for all those silent lurkers out there.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
What make you say that? This forum doesn't have as many posters as LP, but news and commentary are still relevant to this forum. Yes there are a few disruptors on this forum, but the vast majority appreciates good articles around here.
God is always good! I agree, Arator, I appreciate Brian S' articles but I'm not always on line (especially on weekends) and I don't have time to respond to everything.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Is this about that PCR article I just posted and you already posted it? I searched first but didn't see it.
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] I'm gonna miss you man.
I have been reading your posts and enjoying them though I so not always post a comment. Some artcicles need no comment. Other times someone else has already said what I would have. I do look forward to seeing more of your posts and comments. Please continue posting.
??? What the hell am I doing here then? Give it some time and wait for the user base to grow.
I agree. Many more read than post. Who has time to comment and chit chat? I'm still digging holes for my silver and ammo.
Adolf Hitler... "What luck for rulers that men do not think." John F. Kennedy... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?
I appreciated the articles you posted because your focus was on point. I would also appreciate it if you would continue to post articles because you find relevant material that I don't have time to locate myself. Like Cat Stevens says "if you have to leave, take good care, but just remember there's a lot of bad and beware" ...
------------------------------------------------------------ Kennedy Assassination ... Bush (I) did it ! 9-11 ... Bush (II) did it ! "Sarah if the American people ever find out what we have done to them, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us". [George H. W. Bush to Sarah McClendon] I sincerely believe that is a mistaken perception. I read most of your news posts. Even though I'd like the news to be different, I do appreciate that you don't make it up and are just posting it for my (our) edification. I would hope you reconsider and continue posting. The forum is still growing, and it has not yet, IMO, reached critical mass. Your efforts are appreciated, though perhaps too seldom noted.
(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
I would.
i couldn't disagree more.
It seems to me that the people on this forum are talking about current news/events almost constantly. So, maybe you're talking to the wrong people, or you have a different idea of 'current news/events'.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Since you've posted your perception and criticism, let me post mine. My observation is that you post your articles but very seldom answer replies to them. There's no other way to keep a thread going other than conversing and answering those who have commented to your article. Few here have the time, including myself, to read and comment to everything posted but let me assure you, we get a lot of hits to this site.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, Brian: your posts are read and appreciated very much here. If we didn't have some "busty lesbian" threads, our heads would explode from dealing solely with the horrors of the world around us. Bear with those of us who need some inane relief from time to time. Cheers.
Ditto's Jim. I like Brian's material *and* busty lesbian stuff.
Happy trails to you, until we meet again.
Okay, I admit it. The Hello Kitty® Stratocaster® thread wasn't one of my more redeeming efforts. But, like others I read much and respond seldom, mainly because you all seem to know each other and butting in doesn't seem like the thing to do. But, your posts are appreciated if that means anything. Neil responded in a timely manner with a meaningful question and apparent desire to appreciate your efforts, and Zip and chris both expressed their appreciation. Mind_Virus posts here in bulk and rarely comments or discusses the topics. He knows folks read his posts, and you should know that we read yours.
Butt it is the thing to do, honest.
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington "If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader] The only way we get to know any posters here is by replying and offering our thoughts and opinions, and visiting with others...don't consider it butting in, just saying what's on your mind.
Thank you.
We need to have fun occasionally Dawg, or our heads would explode. It's unhealthy to focus on doom and gloom all the time, occasionally we need to laugh and rip up the rug a bit :)
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
great comments! hey, zip and i consider you one of us. you've been here long enough to not have to worry about butting in so please don't worry about that another second. i enjoy the vanity and 4Play articles because that is how we get to know each other on a more personal level and, like mehitable said, we need a break from the constant bad news. we all need fun and laughter, or most of us do, that's why those threads do well! ;)
That's why I appreciate Brian starting another vanity thread for me! (just kidding)
good one! :P
I second that emotion.
"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in." You're a closet MOTOWN fan!
Disagree. I read most of your stuff, but just don't have the time to respond.
Thanks!
Speaking for myself; I prefer to read the articles, digest them, and move on. I'll grant you articles posted at other forums may wind up with several hundred responses, but 90% of those responses are irrelevant fluff, or turn into pissing matches between people who need to get over themselves. Look at the one here the other day between AKA Stone and those lesbian witches...what a snoozer. If I want to hear people yelling and screaming at each other; I can go to a city council meeting when the school budget is being discussed. In that case, there is always the possibility that somebody's clothes might get ripped off. :-)
Brian, I wasn't going to reply to this thread--seriously--but rather just read comments made by others. However, a couple of things were noted I'd like to comment on. Firstly, I read many articles, and seldom comment. Saying 'ditto' or 'bttt' seem to not be saying much. However, I have noticed in the last couple of weeks, as apparently Chrissie has, too, that seldom, if ever, have I received a comment on whatever I write on threads you initiate. Truly, this past week I've begun to think 'why bother' if it's only a race to post articles for the sake of posting articles. Secondly, I don't seem to have as much time on my hands as I have had at different times--lots of demand being made by yardwork and more importantly, studying my Bible. Thirdly, Neil commented about the effectiveness of a 'number of views' tab. I believe this is a great idea. I happen to read on some horse forums and have been amazed at the number of 'reads' vs the number of comments. An example: someone posts a picture of a newborn foal. There may be 4 comments and 140 views. Or someone poses a question about trimming feet. There may be 5 comments or so, but 300 views! More telling is that on the one that is more attuned to pleasure horses, there are over 800 registered members (you have to register in order to even read on the board), of which probably 25 post with any sort of regularity. And yet if you look at the number of views, they are in the hundreds. And there are always someone coming on with "I usually lurk but because of the topic I want to add my two cents, or whatever....". Having a viewership count would/could also be an indicator to thread initiators, and others, as to the "worth" of the article compared to comments written. Fourthly, loddy was right--there are times you have to lighten up and be silly in order to not lose it! That even occurs on those horse forums I visit-- especially during foaling season. Fifthly, or finally, yet probably most important, I appreciate all the efforts you've put into locating articles worthy of reading. You did the same yeoman work at TOS2, though most of them knuckle-dragging, kneepadding, didn't have the sense to read the article and attack the content or the doer of the content--they preferred you, the messenger. I believe this plays a major part here, Brian, because in general we mostly are fairly like-minded in the political, governmental realm. I do hope you will reconsider what seems to be notice that you won't be around much. Regardless, thank you for what you've done in the past.
My persona exists in that netherworld of irrelevant fluff.... I'm so ashamed. I wonder if Neil has thought about booting me, yet? here's the Hello Kitty® Stratocaster® link again: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=25643&Disp=10#C10
I don't know if this is true. Most people here read the article and I know that many people who rarely post here come often to read. What might be giving you a bad impression is that the people here pretty much all know each other. They go back a long way. This results in more personal chat than on other news forums. But it doesn't mean that people don't make serious comments on the articles too. The people here also joke around a lot. This does affect the tone of the forum, but it also brings in lurkers and new members. People will come back again if they see something that makes them laugh. When they come back, they usually read and participate in the serious side of the forum as well. Had I the power, I would be very reluctant to put an end to the joking around. Something is working here. This forum is very strong and has a high traffic volume for a forum this age. Have Christine show you, it is probably higher than you realize. And what can the forum owners do anyway? You touch on this and you probably realize they have very little control over what goes up. This is on purpose too. They don't want to decide on content, and the people who post here didn't want that either. So the owners are not really to blame for what goes on. Their feeling is that if someone doesn't like it, they can bozo or scroll by. A really free forum is also a slightly messy forum. You could tighten up the operation in an hour, but you might then be left with a very orderly two post per day forum.
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My observation too..maybe that's what you miss, Brian? The truth is, the articles you post are appreciated far more here than they ever were on LP. I very much appreciate your comments, Dee.
Since I replied this morning I went back and looked at LP at the replies you got there.. and 99% of them are flaming you or making fun of you in some manner.. not sure if that is what you miss ..here you certainly dont get that treatment..so not sure what your beef is other than that you arent getting as many replies here.. personally I go for the quality rather than the quantity..
The number of "views" would be a great addition here - sometimes, I just can't bring myself to say ANYTHING - like today's "OMG - My, eyes" post: I read the article and the commentary, but since it will probably put me "off" sex for a month, or so, I chose to move on as quickly as possible, praying that horrible image to leave my mind.
I'm so ashamed. I wonder if Neil has thought about booting me, yet? Shame shame shame.. ;)
Oh, GOOD GRIEF!
the jpg!! adorable!!
Aahhh.. poor little puppy.. will a rub behind the ears make it better?? ;P
very well said...accurate..thank you.
Well........ah..........er...........thankx for the 'heads up' regarding THAT story! Eweeeeeeee. :)
Exactly. Why should I read one article, followed by 40 nonsensical posts or so; when I can devote the same time to reading SEVERAL of Brian's articles, and actually LEARN something.
LOL. I had forgotten THAT thread.....
Do you like kitties as much as you like horsies?
I think this would be a great addition to the forum and a welcomed feature to your wonderful forum software.
Not too crazy about pink kitties.........but I love cats, dogs, horses, and most other animals. Right now I have a mustang and a cutting quarter horse living on my property. My 18-1.2 year old brother and sister cats died a couple of years back. Only have my 3-legged Border Collie, Luv, now.
Neil, before you add that feature please look into the problem of searching on titles, it appears no search is taking place and the results prove it. Also, I think it would be a good feature to have an automatic search on the title of the article take place when previewing an article about to be posted. If there is a match then warn the poster that it appears this article was already posted. This would greatly cut down on duplicate articles being posted which is happening more and more since the title search doesn’t work properly anymore.
God is always good! I did see that thread and tested it. Yes there's a problem. Searching on a single word seems to work fine, but multiple words seems to have incomplete results. I've not yet examined the code to see what's going on. Searching on titles is certainly useful, but not particularly efficient for the computer as it is (or was) working. But that could be improved. A dup article dectector is on the list. I've not done much with the software of late due to other duties, but I should get a number of things done before too long. A dup article detector would ideally be smart enough to detect similar titles, and the coding logic for that would be an interesting challenge.
I'll add that to the list.
Tell me more about the horses! A mustang is what HILDAGO was, right? ;) And, what's a cutting quarter horse? (I ride mules, mostly! The Dupont Company supplies everyone in Delaware with free mules. Yep, I just go to the corner hitching post and grab any available mule and ride him to a post near my home! [wink] )
Check out the big brain on Neil!
If the case of checking for dup articles, I wonder if perhaps searching on the first 6 or so words of the article might be more effective. Identical articles can have many different titles (AP is notorious for this) but usually the first paragraph of the articles are consistent.
I too think that feature would be a valuable one to have. Brian S, now I'm going to have to start using the 'bot BUMP! so you'll know I've read your articles. I often read and cruise and lurk without comment/reply.
yep. agree.
Who or what is HILDAGO? This one's name is Wolf; his owner broke mustans for BLM; had a chance to get him, so he did. This is a horse worth knowing. Seriously. His owner uses him to move cattle, to check range conditions, etc. Last year, on one of the big outings, the ranch owner provided water for the riders....not Dom Perrione, but Wolf's Dad got PEACH flavored water. At one of the stops, he dismounted and opened his water bottle for a swig. Wolf turned to him with his lip quivering, so owner poured a tad in the palm of his hand; Wolf slurped it up; after a couple of times of that, and the ol' boy trying to get to the bottle top, the owner just stuck it in his mouth and poured it--like when they put a tube of worming med in their mouth. Wolfer loved it. Owner makes sure they have a bottle of peach for all their trips! The cutting horse is a registered quarter horse that is used for close in working with cattle, to separate an animal from the rest of the herd--something they do not like to do, that is, to be separated from the rest of the cattle. This horse is Hawk. And he's a hoot and a half, too. Get a rider in the saddle and he is fearless in working to split cows and calves. And yet here, last year, there were 2 cows sharing the pasture. One was a late calver and the other had a calf with a broken leg. Anytime that calf would come near Hawk, he'd run like hell--scared of the baby! Buck likes to use Wolf in the wild terrain out here. He's really a sure-footed animal and an extremely easy keeper. He will eat sage brush, weeds, whatever...not picky at all. We believe that comes from his being out on the desert range til he was captured, about 2 years old. Hawk is usable out on the range, but he is more valuable with the ranch work he can do--like splitting cattle out to be worked on. Before the place next door sold, my neighbors had mules. Good riding mules. The wife preferred riding the mules. They can be onery and contrary. When I had my sheep here, the neighbors put a hot line up over the top of the fencing to keep the mules from reaching over or thru the fence to grab the sheep.
What about cases where there's a Reuters version and an AP version of the same story? My current plan is to do something like compare the words with more than 3 or 4 letters. More than an 80% match would be a positive test result. Something like that. I certainly don't expect people to be using the title search to look for dups.
bot bump ping list?
Why not use the title search to look for duplicate items? Similar articles are not the same articles. Some reveal new information or updated information. I would think the title search would do for finding duplicate articles most of the time. Of course you would only have to search back for maybe one week from the present date, which would greatly improve the speed of the search I would think.
God is always good! Exactly. This forum doesn`t have the left vs right, or the DEM vs REP trash debates. Most of the members here are on the same page about current events and other subjects. There are a couple here who don`t agree with the views on certain events, but overall this forum is a safe haven from the WWF BS, that ruins most other forums. There are plenty of forums where you can read how great Hillary and the DEMS are, or how Bush and the REPS are saving us from the terrorists. I post here because of the fact that we are like minded, independent of the two party system, and help each other research topics we have in common. I think in the past, I`ve thanked Brian for his tireless posting of all range of articles and subjects. So, Brian if you missed my past post, thanks for the articles.
Just because it seems a pain to do every time you want to post something. If the purpose of that is just to find out if what you're about to post has already been posted, then the software should do the screening footwork automatically. I'd rather spend time making that than adding a 1 week feature to the title searching.
Oh I agree that it would be good to have the software do this automatically. I just guess I don't see the real need to find similar articles with different titles when searching for a duplicate article. An article may be similar to another article yet reveal different information and/or have a different perspective.
God is always good! There are a couple here who don`t agree with the
views on certain events, but overall this forum is a safe haven from the WWF BS,
that ruins most other forums. There are plenty of forums where you can read
how great Hillary and the DEMS are, or how Bush and the REPS are saving us from
the terrorists. I post here because of the fact that we are like minded,
independent of the two party system, and help each other research topics we have
in common. I dont agree with all the posts here either
just as with any other forum.. but we did create this forum to be just as you
described.. a haven really from the flaming, the false left/right dichotomy, and
especially PAID posters!! We appreciate each and every poster here.. and do try
to acknowledge everyone but as we grow it gets more difficult.. but we'll keep
trying!
Agreed. I'd say a poster can choose to post an article regardless of what matches came up. They would just be aware of what similar stories have been posted, and when they were posted.
HILDAGO is a film starring Viggo Mortensen and a horse. And, the mules would grab the sheep? Now, that's what I call authentic frontier gibberish! ;)
Well actually that won't be a duplicate article and I sort of like to see all versions of a story. AP, Reuters, AFP, etc.
Call it whatever you want. They have been known to pick sheep, basically lambs or yearlings, up by the wool/skin of their spines. And why would I know that.....because the neighbors were aware of it. Bonnie was a sheep producer from a long time back. She actually spent time in the 'wilderness' with sheepherder's wagon and dogs doing summer herding of BANDS of sheep....a band being 1500 ewes with babies. Before I moved in here, I had a fencing guy come in with a crew and put up sheeptight fencing all around the place--to keep dogs and other critters out. Bonnie knew I was moving sheep in from them. And when the sheep actually arrived they started putting up the electric fencing. At the time, IIRC, they had 5 mules in their pasture which abutts to mine. Wanna argue about horses biting? I can refer you to an article where they just put down a stallion for knocking the handler down, trying to maul her with his knees (7 broken ribs, punctured lung) and severe horse bites all over her back. And this was a horse 'under control'--not just running loose.
MadStudDisease? or just having one of those days? :-)
Nah..........it was at a breeding farm. He had just bred a mare and was being taken back to his stall. Another stallion on the premises apparently whinnied, in jealousy no doubt, and he went bonkers. It was a productive son of Seattle Slew, the Triple Crown winner back in '77, IIRC! But the owners of the horse, after consulting with the breeder and vets decided it was simply too dangerous to have such a horse around. It wasn't as though the breeder had no experience, either. She's been doing it for 16 years. Stallions can be quite dangerous. They just had two up in NY state where one was being led to his private paddock and another stallion in the general vicinity let out a squeal. AP Jet whirled, knocking his attendant down, and he charged towards that stud, who broke through his fencing and the fight was on. What stopped it was when Gold Token apparently hit a tree while on the chase or being chased. Killed him instantly and they don't know if AP Jet is out of the woods yet. They have 55 gallon barrel sized drums of hormones and a teaspoon sized brain...but then that describes most males! :)
Actually, horses and mules scare me. I don't want to be close to either end of them. And, I don't want to get run over by a wagon they're pulling, the way my grandpa Gabby HOUNDDAWG was!
LOL!! Youre right about horses .. not the brightest animals for sure.. it's been said they have a brain equal to the intelligence of a turtle!.. the most intelligent being Arabians.. I had a thorobred/app mix.. looney AND fast ..not a good mix.. :P
Stupid question, but with this sort of financial loss potential, why the heck are they not going the AI route?
we just have a small number of people on this site. a lot of good articles get posted. but there's not many serious comments because there's few people. a lot more people read than comment though.
Brian S., I have been lurking in this and past forums for almost 2 years following the like minds around. I recently joined so I could post some items and maybe bring a few things to the table. I don't expect replies on everything but it does feel good when someone speaks up. I have noticed the articles you post here daily and I read most every one. (I usually skip the busty lesbian ones). News and commentary is the main focus of this site. There seems to be alot of old friends here that are more apt to post in a light-hearted or satirical article. If you want some feedback, post some pro-Bush/NWO articles under a different account and watch the posts roll in. Not much to dispute or debate around here as we all are pretty much in the "know". There hasn't been an article posted here in months that could shock or amaze me into a reply frenzy. The reason we all come here are the like-minded views we share on most subjects. Any average American who has done the research/news-gathering that is performed here becomes a Libertarian minded, pro-constitution, truth seeker. BTW, This forum does need a page-veiw counter and maybe a "my posts" section. An article rating system might stimulate some responses but somehow I doubt it. You keep posting 'em and I'll keep readin' 'em. Thanks Bri...
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950
Thanks.. we know how many views the site itself has but not individual articles nor do the posters.. it may be a good thing to add..
Well stated - thanks for chiming in on this one...most everyone here reads all Brian's posts, whether they have any commentary or not. His getting the stories out to us, is what really matters. Cheers, JS.
thanks for your comments and suggestions, j. i've pinged neil since page view counter seems to be a feature everyone would like to see. what do you mean by 'my posts' section? do you mean other than 'check pings'?
doh
In the 'check pings' section, you can only see replies to your posts. If noone responds to your post, it gets lost in the memory hole. If there was a way to keep track of personal posts, people might reply just so the article would be saved in 'my posts'. This might stimulate replies as well. I have tried many times to remember article titles to search with no luck (me brain no retain) and the keyword search is not working so well. But the 'check pings' section works great. A 'my posts' would be a handy tool.
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950
Does Alexa seem accurate?
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950
There has been discussion that when compared to the #s dont match the actual ones .. so not sure on that .. Neil can give better info on this..
Oops..bad url, sorry http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details? &range=6m&size=large&compare_sites=&y=r&url=freedom4um.com
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950
No problem.. Neil will have to comment on this ..thanks!!
Some breeds of horses do artificial insemination. The thoroughbred industry forbids it. I would venture to guess it has something to do partly with the gambling aspect, but mainly keeping lineage straight. The prices being paid for these marvelous creatures and their usefulness as a stud have dictated that they now are doing dna matches on all of them. Where you have one dipshit stud, there are tons of them that are real gentlemen. GEnerally at the breeding farms, the animal is taken to a specific barn that is only used for breeding. This seemingly ingrains in them that this is the only place such activity is allowed. They certainly don't just turn a stallion in with a mare. It is all veryyyyyyyyyy controlled. A mare could kick and break a stud's leg, or put a real damaging kink in the penile sheath and penis. At the same time, a stud will oftentimes try to bite a mare's neck--and they have various ways of preventing this as they don't want the mare to get hurt either. There is a horse here in the states, Storm Cat, whose stud fee is $500,000. Yes.....half a million dollars. And now that he is getting up there in age pretty much, they may even kick it up higher to reap big rewards the last couple of years.
Who taught them that?
ok..gotcha..we do have bookmarks for articles you want to save. are you aware of that? 'my posts' might be nice too. neil's aware that the 'title search' is broken. he's working on it. thanks!
I think this is a fine forum, more news than I can deal with usually.
Quit bogarting that peace, crackwhore!
I had no idea. Thanks for all the information...one of our favorite authors is Dick Francis, who, as you probably know, writes mystery novels about the horse/racing industry over the pond.
You should try spending days writing your own material & get one or two responses - now THAT's discouraging!
js.....are you meaning a way by which you can keep track of the threads you initiate? Or by the individual posts, regardless of whichever thread it is? The bookmark feature I find good for keeping track of something I want to keep in mind. I don't know if I really want to know how little I add to the forum via initiating a thread....once upon a time I did much, much better. :( or :)
Oh no, Dak.......LOL.
They's breeding all kinds of crazy thing these days, watch this to see what I mean. One of those horrible things things grabbed a child, see frames 71-77. :)
Quit bogarting that peace, crackwhore!
Hah! You know I accidentally did a private reply once but I have never paid attention to the bookmark link. Thanks, I'll give it a try. I usually enter the site on the latest articles page and rarely attemt to take advantage of other features on the site.
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950
and you have a homepage where you can post your picture! :P
I'm not clear on what that is. If you can expand on it I can see about adding. Thanks.
Okay, it sounds like you are referring to a list of comments *from* you instead of a list of comments *to* you. If so you could get such a list by putting your screen name in the "from" field on the Latest Comments page. How close is that to what you mean?
My experience from my LP days is that alexa is about as accurate as a musket. Some days when posting & activity was up, alexa show drops. And vice versa. For ballpark estimates, they're probably fine, but not for more than that. Their graphs really should have big wide fuzzy lines on them.
Brian, I agree with Arator. Stick around, you post things that would take me hours to locate. And that is hours I do not have. Thanks for posting.
"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954
oh, duh! i forgot about doing it that way! :P
Who taught them that? Saw a video of that once - changed my perception of horses forever.
Bookmarks would probably work much better.
I've told you this before, and I'm telling you again. You got a great set of links. You find some of the most interesting things to post. I don't post much on this forum. I kind of go in binges. But I tell you, I read most if not all of your ariticle postings. If I find one I'm interested in, I will read the responses until it turns into chitchat that doesn't have anything to do with the initial post. This forum does get sidetracked from the topic easily. Not much to debate if you see throught the same lense. Thats not a negetive, nor evidence posters here don't want to discuss politics. I think it's just posters have formed bonds and are less inhibited in their discussions. If you really are going elsewere with your gift I'll take this opportunity to thank you for all the things I've learned from your postings. Regards, and I hope you continue in your endeavers.
Brian this appears to be the case everywhere. The other day I noticed there is a lack of real news in general, even on other forums. I went to a lot of MSM news sites also, and they have articles like "Britney almost drops her baby", or articles about the race horse who broke his leg and got his surgery, things like that. Now and then you might see something about an explosion in Iraq where a small number of people die. CNN, ABC, none of them have much in the way of real news anymore. And Drudge likes to put up articles about eccentric old ladies with 80 dogs and cats who are sickly and end up impounded, or he is busy promoting Da Vince Code. Tonight he has an article about Madonna's latest concert. I believe information is becoming more and more restricted in general. Around here there have been some dumb sex threads, part of that IMO is due to the fact that there is just not much news to be found anymore. Even overseas sources don't have much, though there is plenty of propaganda all around. We are living in an information vacuum now.
I couldn't disagree more, it's more like information overload.
God is always good! Yes the proper way to handle this is to gang up and verbally beat the crap out of this poster who has posted some great articles here. Way to go! I guess you didn't notice he didn't say he was quitting... yet even that would not warrent such a reply IMO. Women, (and some of you guys) please keep those claws retracted and try to show some appreciation instead.
of a bunch of meaningless crap.
What is meaningless crap to some is gold to others. With all of the personal blogs on the Internet there are some very good sources of first hand information out there, much more than there ever has been. That's one the reasons that the federal government is so concerned about the Internet and is looking at ways to control it. Yes, there is a lot of crap too, but it's up to the reader to decide what is crap and what is not.
God is always good! Now that's really nice... at this point I don't think the guy will ever post here again, and I don't blame him if he doesn't. His articles are some of the best and most relevant, he shows a lot of guts by what he posts. And to be treated this way, you'd think he cussed you guys out! As you know posters have different styles. There have always been posters who only post articles and rarely comment, it's the way they are, and they have that right. I don't think it's a quality vs quantity issue, should not be a competition issue either.
It's finding the genuine ones, that's the problem. Not heavily promoted blogs like Riverbend which I believe is propaganda, even if it's not on Bush's side. You are right in that there is a lot to weed through, then you have to decide whether it's worthwhile or not. If I think a source is golden, I would not refer to it as meaningless crap. But the meaningless crap does rule.
Yes sex does seem to be the hot topic around here lately, of course I'm the forum prude. I notice those who enjoy the sex threads the most also enjoy ganging up and kicking the downed dog the most, just an observation.
uh, Diana, did you fail to notice the insult to us in Brian's title, "this shall never be a current news and commentary forum?" wouldn't you agree that it's not only an insult, but also erroneous? I certainly wouldn't characterize my and Zipporah's replies as an attack on Brian, but rather our responsive defense to this!
I read it differently than you and Zip did, came away with a different impression. I didn't notice his "this shall never be..". I focused on what I saw as his unhappiness with real news on here, and my thought to that was that there is hardly any real news anywhere anymore to be found. I still don't think he meant to be harsh, he may have been bugged about the lack of real news but as I said that is now everywhere.
I vote that this thread has cleared the air, and therefore should be placed in the cyber-shredder. What say you guys?
What say you guys? I say yes, please...
I guess it's a matter
of perception then because I think we have plenty of real news here. As a
matter of fact, I'm often information overloaded and enjoy the levity and
relief of the fun threads.
What a crock of shit. An insult indeed!
That's no way to talk to a lady. I saw your post as an insult too and also wrong.
God is always good! Well then you are very 'thin skinned' or unable to comprehend written word. Nothing in my original statement could be considered an "insult". Actually I thought I was rather gracious in my commentary.
I thought so too. Some folks are more sensitive and thin skinned to perceived criticism than others with thick elephant skin like you and I possess:0
"You can't say that!" - please, be careful about our feeeeelings.
Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.
#2. To: Brian S (#0)
#3. To: Brian S (#0)
#4. To: Brian S (#0)
Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#5. To: Arator (#3)
#6. To: Brian S (#0)
#7. To: Brian S (#0)
#8. To: Brian S (#0)
#9. To: Brian S (#0)
Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.
#10. To: Arator (#3)
#11. To: Brian S, christine, Zipporah (#0)
#12. To: Brian S (#0)
#13. To: Brian S (#0)
Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.
#14. To: Neil McIver (#11)
It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?
#15. To: Brian S (#0)
news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.
#16. To: Brian S (#0)
#17. To: Brian S (#0)
#18. To: Brian S (#0)
#19. To: lodwick (#18)
#20. To: Brian S (#0)
I've already said too much.
#21. To: Brian S, Neil McIver, Zipporah, christine, Mind_Virus (#0)
#22. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21)
But, like others I read much and respond seldom, mainly because you all seem to know each other and butting in doesn't seem like the thing to do.
#23. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21)
#24. To: robin, lodwick (#22)
#25. To: HOUNDDAWG, all (#21)
#26. To: HOUNDDAWG, mehitable, Zipporah, robin, ALL (#21)
#27. To: mehitable, Brian S (#25)
We need to have fun occasionally Dawg, or our heads would explode. It's unhealthy to focus on doom and gloom all the time, occasionally we need to laugh and rip up the rug a bit :)
#28. To: HOUNDDAWG (#27)
#29. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#11)
It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club
#30. To: bluegrass (#29)
I second that emotion.
#31. To: Brian S (#0)
#32. To: christine (#28)
#33. To: Brian S (#0)
#34. To: Brian S, Christine, Zipporah, Neil McIver, lodwick (#0)
#35. To: who knows what evil, Neil McIver, Brian S, zipporah, christine, mehitable, robin, lodwick (#33)
Speaking for myself; I prefer to read the articles, digest them, and move on. I'll grant you articles posted at other forums may wind up with several hundred responses, but 90% of those responses are irrelevant fluff....
#36. To: Brian S (#0)
Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.
#37. To: rowdee, Brian S (#34)
Fifthly, or finally, yet probably most important, I appreciate all the efforts you've put into locating articles worthy of reading. You did the same yeoman work at TOS2, though most of them knuckle-dragging, kneepadding, didn't have the sense to read the article and attack the content or the doer of the content--they preferred you, the messenger.
#38. To: Brian S (#0)
#39. To: rowdee (#34)
Good post - thanks for taking the time.
#40. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)
My persona exists in that netherworld of irrelevant fluff....
#41. To: Zipporah (#40)
Shame shame shame.. ;)
#42. To: HOUNDDAWG (#41)
#43. To: HOUNDDAWG (#41)
Oh, GOOD GRIEF!
#44. To: ... (#36)
#45. To: lodwick (#39)
#46. To: Zipporah, Brian S (#38)
Since I replied this morning I went back and looked at LP at the replies you got there.. and 99% of them are flaming you or making fun of you in some manner.. not sure if that is what you miss ..here you certainly dont get that treatment..so not sure what your beef is other than that you arent getting as many replies here.. personally I go for the quality rather than the quantity..
#47. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)
#48. To: rowdee (#47)
LOL. I had forgotten THAT thread.....
#49. To: Neil McIver (#11)
It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?
#50. To: HOUNDDAWG (#48)
#51. To: Neil McIver (#11)
It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#52. To: RickyJ (#51)
Neil, before you add that feature please look into the problem of searching on titles, it appears no search is taking place and the results prove it.
Also, I think it would be a good feature to have an automatic search on the title of the article take place when previewing an article about to be posted. If there is a match then warn the poster that it appears this article was already posted. This would greatly cut down on duplicate articles being posted which is happening more and more since the title search doesn’t work properly anymore.
#53. To: Brian S (#49)
#54. To: rowdee (#50)
Right now I have a mustang and a cutting quarter horse living on my property. My 18-1.2 year old brother and sister cats died a couple of years back. Only have my 3-legged Border Collie, Luv, now.
#55. To: Neil McIver (#52)
A dup article detector would ideally be smart enough to detect similar titles, and the coding logic for that would be an interesting challenge.
#56. To: Neil McIver (#52)
A dup article detector would ideally be smart enough to detect similar titles, and the coding logic for that would be an interesting challenge.
#57. To: Neil McIver, Brian S (#53)
It's been mentioned before that knowing how many times an article has been viewed might be helpful feedback. Would you see any value in that?
#58. To: RickyJ, Neil McIver (#51)
#59. To: HOUNDDAWG (#54)
#60. To: Brian S (#56)
If the case of checking for dup articles, I wonder if perhaps searching on the first 6 or so words of the article might be more effective.
Identical articles can have many different titles (AP is notorious for this) but usually the first paragraph of the articles are consistent.
#61. To: Fred Mertz (#57)
I'm going to have to start using the 'bot BUMP! so you'll know I've read your articles.
#62. To: Neil McIver (#60)
I certainly don't expect people to be using the title search to look for dups.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#63. To: Zipporah (#38)
#64. To: RickyJ (#62)
Why not use the title search to look for duplicate items?
Of course you would only have to search back for maybe one week from the present date, which would greatly improve the speed of the search I would think.
#65. To: Neil McIver (#64)
If the purpose of that is just to find out if what you're about to post has already been posted, then the software should do the screening footwork automatically. I'd rather spend time making that than adding a 1 week feature to the title searching.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#66. To: Kamala (#63)
Exactly. This forum doesn`t have the left vs right, or the DEM vs
REP trash debates. Most of the members here are on the same page about current
events and other subjects.
#67. To: RickyJ (#65)
An article may be similar to another article yet reveal different information and/or have a different perspective.
#68. To: rowdee (#59)
Who or what is HILDAGO?
#69. To: Neil McIver (#60)
What about cases where there's a Reuters version and an AP version of the same story?
#70. To: HOUNDDAWG (#68)
Now, that's what I call authentic frontier gibberish! ;)
#71. To: rowdee (#70)
I can refer you to an article where they just put down a stallion for knocking the handler down, trying to maul her with his knees (7 broken ribs, punctured lung) and severe horse bites all over her back. And this was a horse 'under control'--not just running loose.
#72. To: lodwick (#71)
#73. To: rowdee (#70)
#74. To: rowdee (#72)
They have 55 gallon barrel sized drums of hormones and a teaspoon sized brain...but then that describes most males! :)
#75. To: rowdee (#72)
They have 55 gallon barrel sized drums of hormones and a teaspoon sized brain...but then that describes most males!
#76. To: Brian S (#0)
#77. To: Brian S, All (#0)
#78. To: j.sulli, Neil McIver, christine (#77)
BTW, This forum does need a page-veiw counter and maybe a "my posts" section. An article rating system might stimulate some responses but somehow I doubt it.
#79. To: j.sulli (#77)
The reason we all come here are the like-minded views we share on most subjects. Any average American who has done the research/news-gathering that is performed here becomes a Libertarian minded, pro-constitution, truth seeker.
#80. To: j.sulli, Neil McIver (#77)
#81. To: lodwick (#79)
that would be "most READ" Brian's posts...
#82. To: christine (#80)
what do you mean by 'my posts' section?
#83. To: Zipporah (#78)
#84. To: j.sulli, Neil McIver (#83)
#85. To: Zipporah (#78)
#86. To: j.sulli (#85)
#87. To: lodwick (#75)
#88. To: rowdee (#87)
Some breeds of horses do artificial insemination.
#89. To: j.sulli, Neil McIver (#82)
#90. To: christine, Brian S (#89)
#91. To: rowdee (#87)
The thoroughbred industry forbids it.
#92. To: Brian S (#0)
#93. To: j.sulli, Christine, Zipporah, Neil McIver (#82)
#94. To: Dakmar (#88)
#95. To: rowdee (#94)
#96. To: christine, rowdee (#89)
we do have bookmarks for articles you want to save
#97. To: j.sulli (#96)
Try jumping in using "Latest Comments" and you'll get it all.
#98. To: j.sulli (#96)
#99. To: j.sulli (#77)
and maybe a "my posts" section.
#100. To: j.sulli (#82)
If there was a way to keep track of personal posts, people might reply just so the article would be saved in 'my posts'. This might stimulate replies as well.
#101. To: Zipporah, j.sulli (#84)
#102. To: Arator, Brian S (#3)
Brian S...just because people don't post responses doesn't mean you aren't having an impact. I read your posted articles often, but am just as often too busy to post. I know it disappoints when you post something important and get little response. I experience the same disappointment often. Nevertheless, having good, relevant, and revealing articles posted in one place is invaluable. So I hope you'll keep up your good work for all those silent lurkers out there.
#103. To: Neil McIver (#100)
#104. To: Dakmar, zipporah, rowdee (#88)
Some breeds of horses do artificial insemination.
#105. To: christine (#103)
#106. To: Brian S (#0)
#107. To: Brian S (#0)
Try as I might over the last weeks, news and commentary is not relevant to this forum.
#108. To: Diana (#107)
We are living in an information vacuum now.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#109. To: christine, All (#17)
Since you've posted your perception and criticism, let me post mine. My observation is that you post your articles but very seldom answer replies to them. There's no other way to keep a thread going other than conversing and answering those who have commented to your article. Few here have the time, including myself, to read and comment to everything posted but let me assure you, we get a lot of hits to this site.
#110. To: RickyJ (#108)
it's more like information overload.
#111. To: Diana (#110)
of a bunch of meaningless crap.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#112. To: Zipporah (#38)
Since I replied this morning I went back and looked at LP at the replies you got there.. and 99% of them are flaming you or making fun of you in some manner.. not sure if that is what you miss ..here you certainly dont get that treatment..so not sure what your beef is other than that you arent getting as many replies here.. personally I go for the quality rather than the quantity..
#113. To: RickyJ (#111)
With all of the personal blogs on the Internet there are some very good sources of first hand information out there, much more than there ever has been.
#114. To: lodwick (#39)
since it will probably put me "off" sex for a month
#115. To: Diana, Zipporah (#109)
#116. To: christine (#115)
uh, Diana, did you fail to notice the insult to us in Brian's title, "this shall never be a current news and commentary forum?" wouldn't you agree that it's not only an insult, but also erroneous? I certainly wouldn't characterize my and Zipporah's replies as an attack on Brian, but rather our responsive defense to this!
#117. To: christine. Zipporah. Brian. all (#115)
Things have righted themselves since first posted.
#118. To: lodwick (#117)
I vote that this thread has cleared the air, and therefore should be placed in the cyber-shredder.
#119. To: Diana (#116)
I still don't think he meant to be harsh, he may have been
bugged about the lack of real news
#120. To: christine (#115)
did you fail to notice the insult to us in Brian's title, "this shall never be a current news and commentary forum?" wouldn't you agree that it's not only an insult, but also erroneous?
#121. To: Brian S, Chirstine (#120)
What a crock of shit. An insult indeed!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#122. To: RickyJ (#121)
I saw your post as an insult too and also wrong
#123. To: Brian S (#122)
#124. To: Brian S (#122)
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