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Title: WICCA AND SATANISM Are they really totally unrelated as Wiccans claim?
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URL Source: http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/wiccastn.htm
Published: May 23, 2006
Author: unattributed
Post Date: 2006-05-23 18:38:32 by A K A Stone
Keywords: satanists, burn in hell, wicca
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We have been receiving threats from Wicca of litigation and prophecies of our death. What is the problem? Answer: One thing alone-- Our contention that Satan is the lord and master and object of worship of Wicca. Wicca, an ancient offshoot of witchcraft and Druidism, claims they have nothing to do with Satan. So, here is the reason we say that Wicca's god is Satan, according to the King James Bible. Jesus speaks to the Pharisees, but He speaks to ALL men and women who reject His exclusive Lordship over them. John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. The nature of Satan as a murderer is seen in witchcraft's and Wicca's practice of sacrificing animals and babies. Can Wiccans and Satanists dream up doctrines which look religious and give them self-confidence in rejecting Jesus? Jeremiah 17:9 The heart (of man) is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Where did the first Satanic doctrine hatch? Eve had listened to Satan as he tempted her to sin against God. She rebelled and ate the fruit, just as Wiccans and Satanists have done today. Thus, God said there would be enmity between God's seed-people and Satan's seed-people from then on until the earth was destroyed in the future. Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. The evil men who are the seed of Satan are defined by Jesus much later. Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. There is NO gray area. Either men are good seed, or they are tare, or weed, seed. The product of Satanic seed, whether Wiccans, Satanists, or New Agers, will burn in hell. They are the same family. There is no third way! Note next that a sorcerer (which is the King James Bible name for a witch-- still is for that matter) is a "child of the devil." "The devil" is Satan in the Bible, and witches are his children. Thus, any worship, whether to Mother Nature, Lucifer, Pan, Kali, The "Blessed Virgin," Mithra, Shiva, Old Nick or any other stand in, is in fact Satan worship, for Satan IS the devil. Acts 13:8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. 9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him. 10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? Thus, Sorcerer (witch) equals Child of The Devil (Satan). Wiccans are not alone. ALL who reject Christ as absolute Lord of their life are Satan worshipers in their heart. 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. There are just two churches if you will-- The Church of Jesus Christ and the church of Satan. No third way exists. In the coming Great Tribulation the wrath of God is poured out on all who rebel against God. Note that they who have been punished severely by God six times still hang onto four sins. "Sorceries," which is Wicca, along with Satanism and witchcraft today, is one sin men WILL NOT give up. Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. Those who reject the Lord Jesus Christ as their sole Master are rebels, and witchcraft is their religion. That they call themselves Druids, Wiccans, Pagans, Cabbalists, or Satanists is incidental and pointless. They are ALL witches by religion. 1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king. The familiar spirit below is NOT the spirit of God. So, it is Satan. There is no other spirit, contrary to the imaginations of Satanists, Pagans, and Wiccans. 2 Chronicles 33:1 Manasseh was twelve years old when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and five years in Jerusalem: 2 But did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, like unto the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD had cast out before the children of Israel. 3 For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his father had broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them. 4 Also he built altars in the house of the LORD, whereof the LORD had said, In Jerusalem shall my name be for ever. 5 And he built altars for all the host of heaven in the two courts of the house of the LORD. 6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger. 7 And he set a carved image, the idol which he had made, in the house of God, of which God had said to David and to Solomon his son, In this house, and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen before all the tribes of Israel, will I put my name for ever: Note the associations Wiccans and Satanists share in their cult of witchcraft. There are only two masters, two religions, two doctrinal systems. No amount of shuckin and jivin can alter this truth in God's Holy Word. Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Five "I Will" statements are made by Lucifer, who is Satan. In the past, Satan was without sin, but sin was found in him, and his five acts of rebellion were in the form of self-will assertion. The number Five is associated with death in the Bible. Wicca, witchcraft, and Satanism teach that you are to follow YOUR will. The only distinction between Wicca and Satanism is that Wicca claims to restrain the hurting of others. Ironically, many Wiccans have started in the self-will God hatred only to progress on to Human and animal sacrifice. They hate this truth being raised before their eyes, and some Wiccans have actually deceived themselves into believing their lies. So did Hitler, one of history's most famous witches and human sacrifice gurus. Isaiah 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. 10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? 11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. Who was there supervising the fall from heaven of Satan? Jesus was in charge for He was the creator of Satan. Without Jesus was not anything made that was made. John 1 Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. Conclusion: We now see that ALL who rebel against God and His Son, Jesus Christ, are in the same religion. What THEY think they are is 100% beside the point. Whether Wiccans, Hindus, Satanists, Nazis, Pagan, "Christian" pagans, "Christian" witches, or just beer drinking generic rebels, they are ALL members of the religion of Satan worship and Devil worship. Their rebellion and self-exaltation is their choice by default. They are full members of Satan's church, and they will spend eternity with Satan covered with maggots and burning in flames. I wish they would repent and turn to Jesus Christ as their absolute Lord. It is beyond imagination what they will suffer for their present choices. This is the definition given by the King James Bible, which is the last and only authority on this subject. Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. We are here to help you if you want to repent and be delivered from this bondage. Shalom. LINKS TO SATANIC AND NEW AGE SITES ON THE Web: We suggest only researchers use these links. This is a very select list, but you will easily find some explicit filth here. Also, from time to time, filthy witches change their Home Page to a porn forwarding page just to spite me. They prove who the real warrior is, and that Jesus Christ is the one who is winning. But, do not assume I have put up these links to porn pages. Rather; send E-Mail to let me know what you found please. We have learned how to bring back Web sites which have been taken off the Web. The links below have been revived for research purposes. IN THE WORDS OF THE NOTED ASCENDED MASTER OF THE 1950s: Eeee Aaaaaa Uuuuu Aha, Ting Tang, Awullah Wullah Bing Bang..... PHILLY POLICE PLAY DUMB IN AN OBVIOUS RITUAl KILLING: http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/5290180.htm SPIRIT WEB-- Michael the Archangel is channeled as well as other insane notions: http://www.spiritweb.org/index.html SAINT GERMAIN AND THE ALCHEMIST MYTHS: http://www.lateralscience.co.uk/alchemy/index.html I have seen this nutty stuff in a customer of my piano tuning trade. He claimed he had speeded up light in his garage. UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA STUDENT CLUB-- Evil is good cult: http://www.unl.edu/innocent/mission.htm TZIMON, A LOUD MOUTH WITCH, HOPES YOU WILL THINK CHILD SACRIFICE IS JUST A MYTH AFTER READING THIS: http://www.paganlibrary.com/humor/christian_baby_soup.php HERE IS TZIMON'S WITCHY PAGE: http://web.archive.org/web/19991008104643/www.crl.com/~tzimon/ Poor man-- he thinks we are gone :-) SOLID SOURCE FOR COMMITTED WITCHCRAFT: http://fnordfiles.rtfm.com.au/texts/Occult/occult.htm WOMEN'S LIBERATION WRITINGS: http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/wlm/ Theosophical live online programs: This is the occult Satanic system promoted by Madam Blavatsky and Freemason Albert Pike. http://www.ult.org/index2.html OCCULT ENCYCLOPEDIA ONLINE http://www.occultopedia.com/welcome.htm CHANNELING TO THE EXTREME http://www3.ceinternet.com.au/~galactac/14nltr02.htm BUCKMINSTER FULLER-- You will never find a more spaced out New Ager anywhere http://omnifelicity.com/bucky/Default.htm GEORGIA GUIDESTONES: http://www.lamblion.com/other/social/SI-18.html THE BURNING MAN If you need to find more on this, use the search engines, but beware of the photos. Panorama of the event attendees "AND THE FARMER HAULED ANOTHER LOAD AWAY" DEPARTMENT These people tried to go away, but we brought them back :-) SOMEBODY HATES BIBLE BELIEVERS: PROMOTING PAGANISM WICCA HARTZ MOUNTAINS, GERMANY: GERMAN WITCHCRAFT REVIVAL: http://www.shadowplayzine.com/Articles/paganism_in_germany_.htm GERMAN HALLOWEEN TRADITION: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Halloween_Traditions/message/1361 PLACE OF PAGAN SACRIFICES: http://www.fellowshipofisis.com/jc/jcapr23.html HOLDA AND HARTZ: http://www.ealdriht.org/frige.html FAUST-- DAMNATION IN HIGH TONES-- INCLUDING HARTZ MOUNTAINS: http://www.levity.com/alchemy/faust18.html SECOND VERSION: http://glenavalon.com/walpurgisnight.html INTERESTING BRIDGE FROM CATHOLIC LORE TO WITCHES: http://users.erols.com/saintpat/ss/0225.htm DOCTRINAIRE NEW AGE WRITINGS: http://www.spiritweb.org/ This one went away, but we got it back for you. ESOTERIC LINKS: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/5530/links.htm LISTING OF OCCULT SITES: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lights/5682/occulink.html THE MOST HIGHLY CONCENTRATED MIXTURE OF NEW AGE POPPYCOCK IN THE WORLD: http://www.davidicke.com/icke/main.html CIRCLE OF LIGHT ALCHEMISTS: http://www.lightworker.com/ BIBLE BELIEVER HATER: http://www.swampfox.demon.co.uk/utlah/werecard/thorulf.html NEW AGE AMERICAN INDIAN LORE: http://newageinfo.com/bus/cymry/mysteries1.html DARKNESS AND DEATH-- Habitation of witches and god haters: http://www.stygianlabyrinth.net/ Mr. Mystic Filth, Aleister Crowley, Vomits for you: http://www.rahoorkhuit.net/library/crowley/clouds.html RIGHT ON OUT IN SPACE-- Breathing Yogic Instructions: http://www3.mistral.co.uk/pyramidas/secrets_4.htm OUR FAN CLUB IN WICCA LAND: http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcr1.htm YIN AND YANG: http://www.nisbett.com/symbols/yin_and_yang.htm WITCHES CALENDAR OF EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR: http://www.salemtarot.com/events.html WICCANS GET THEIR OWN US ARMY CHAPLAIN: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000271261842766&rtmo=pQpUsese&atmo= ggggg3qK&pg=/et/99/5/14/wpag14.html ME THINKS HE PROTESTETH TOO MUCH: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bkb1827/main.htm Read Metaphysical and Occult books Online in Complete form-- Especially Madam Balvatsky: http://www-cgi.cs.cmu.edu/cgi-bin/book/subjectstart?BP Testimony of a witch who met Jesus GODDESS AND WICCA WORSHIP: http://www.artemis.centrum.is/~snorrigb/Cult-fem.htm#Venus And regarding the New Age: http://artemis.centrum.is/~snorrigb/2000.htm GODDESS WORSHIP AND WITCHCRAFT: Isis "Thousand names" of the Goddess Witches webring Goddess webring The Goddess Goddess/feminist links Goddesses of the World The Goddess Index The Goddess Homepage WITCHCRAFT AND HUMAN SACRIFICE-- Primal force behind abortion-- This is powerful research: http://www.forerunner.com/champion/X0040_Massacre_of_Innocenc.html ROBERT GILLETTE SUPPLIES US WITH THE MOST USEFUL LINK SELECTION I HAVE SEEN ON THE ILLUMINATI: You should visit his page to read his views on the subject. He is right on target and not extremist: http://members.tripod.com/~RobertGillette/Illuminati.html ILLUMINATI RESEARCH HELPS: Bavarian Illuminati: HELPFUL BOOKS: Illuminism Worldwide: Secret Magical Societies: Priests of the Network: More Network: Illuminism Continued: Pagan Gnostics: The Plot: Blavatsky’s Illuminism: Network Directory : Myron Fagan is WRONG about the Jews: This is off the Web, but we have ways..... Illuminati Links: Scottish Rite: Thelema: This is off the Web, but we have ways..... Illuminist Networking: Essay on Secret Societies: Occult Network: Illuminism: The Evil Network: Official Temple of Set Satanist Website: The Gnostic Pagan Tradition: A Claim of a Scientology Connection to Satanism: Satanic Search Engine: A Claim of Satanist Infiltration of the Vatican: The Illuminati: Cutting Edge Transcripts: Phoenix Links: Sympnia Pantheon: The Gnostic Society: Other Zoroastrians: THE KABBALAH: Wing of the Network: SKULL AND BONES VIDEO NEW WORLD ORDER-- Practical?? Applications of the Pagan Filth LATEST WORD FROM THE BEYOND Wiccan promoters Gavin and Yvonne Frost http://www.drleisure.com/mta1.html NON-WITCHCRAFT SITE EXPOSING THE OCCULT AND FREEMASONRY IN EUROPE http://www.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/ A HATE AND TWISTED SISTER PAGE WHERE WE ARE "HONORED" BY WITCHES: http://www.angelfire.com/il/WildOrchid/index.html GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD: http://www.all-natural.com/gwb.html AND http://www.sd.com.au/db/hood.htm AND http://205.243.132.23/arc.html AND THE VIOLET FLAME-- http://205.243.132.23/vi-flame.html AND http://www.tsl.org/germain.html (has been offline since 1997-- We know how to.....) AND http://www.tsl.org/church.html (Ditto.....) SEE WHY WITCHES NEED TO BORN AGAIN: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/7437/ Interesting response to our page! WHITE BUFFALO CULT TAKING IN AMERICAN INDIANS: Need new date here.... DISCUSSION OF HUMAN SACRIFICE BY A WICCAN: They tried to bury this, but we have it.... http://www.sils.umich.edu/~sjgavula/wiccahist.html VERY BUSY SITE FROM ALASKA WITH RESOURCES: http://www.witchvox.net/wotw/wwp_a/alaska_a.html?-token.skip=50 DISCUSSION OF HUMAN SACRIFICE BY SECULARISTS: http://www.forerunner.com/champion/X0042_What_is_the_Wiccan_r.html LIST OF LINKS TO WICCAN PAGES: http://students.missouri.edu/~sacredw/links.html AFRICAN VERSION OF WICCA: http://www.animal-law.org/sacrifice/sacrfc.htm ANIMAL SACRIFICE IN SANTARIA http://www.animal-law.org/sacrifice/sacrfc.htm EVOLUTION AND WICCA http://www.netkonect.co.uk/e/evolution/wicca.htm CHURCH OF SATAN http://www.churchofsatan.com/ Anton LaVey ECCLESIA GNOSTIC CATHOLICA http://www.crl.com/~thelema/egc.html THELEMA http://www.crystalinks.com/crowley.html Alister Crowley's cult. THE GOLDEN DAWN http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/index.shtml THE SABBATS OF WICCA http://www.feri.com/frand/Wicca4.html KABBALAH HOME PAGE http://www.io.org/~vma/kabbalah.html Pagan Babylonian Jewish filth-- Was taken off the Web, but, Wallah, here it is..... HELENA PETROVNA BLAVATSKY AND LUCIS TRUST AND ALBERT PIKE: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Lucis_Trust.htm OCCULT CONNECTIONS IN FREEMASONRY SOURCE: http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/sitemap.html FINDHORN FOUNDATION http://www.findhorn.org/ Nutty as a fruit cake. NEW AGE DIRECTORY http://www.newage-directory.com/ NEW AGE JOURNAL http://www.newage.com/Journal/ SETI INSTITUTE http://www.seti-inst.edu/ Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence SUMERIA http://www.livelinks.com/sumeria/ Alternative ideas in health, science, and spirituality. AND: http://pubpages.unh.edu/~cbsiren/sumer-faq.html Useful for information AGE OF AQUARIUS: http://www.aquarian-age.net/ UTNE READER http://www.utne.com/ Very strange and sometimes useful information. WITCHES OF THE WEST http://www.mcs.net/~woad/home.html OCCULTISTS UNDER PAIN: http://www.theescapist.com/darkdungeons.htm ORDO TEMPLI ORIENTIS http://otohq.org/oto/ INSPIRATION IS THE IN-BREATH OF SPIRIT http://www.aa.net/~erika/ ATTACKING THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT AND FUNDAMENTALISTS- http://ftp.tcp.com/qrd/www/FTR/tblcntnt.html NEW AGE INFO BY THEM-- GREAT SOURCE http://www.newageinfo.com/ ECKANKAR (tm) EXPOSED http://www.eckankar.org/ NEW AGE VERY ARTICULATE: http://revealer.com/ MINDLESS EXALTATION OF SATAN: http://www.anus.com/altar/ Many of the above links have further links to other occult and New Age pages. Be cautious, and only venture here if you NEED some research items. This is NOT an area to look for amusement. Pray first, pleading the Blood of The Lord Jesus Christ over yourself. Have a friend with you to discipline yourself against evil curiosity. LINKS TO SAINTS WHO ARE EXPOSING THE NEW AGE: DELIVERANCE MINISTRY, THOUGH QUESTIONS REMAIN: http://www.demonbuster.com/ CONSTANDE CUMBY ON THE NEW AGE: http://www.pathlights.com/theselastdays/tracts/tract_31c.htm NEW AGE AS THE FOUNDATION OF NEW CULTS AND RELIGIONS: I am sorry about the background, but the content is useful http://religion-cults.com/Secret/New-Age/New_Age.htm NEVER CONVERSE WITH DEMONS: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2001/frankm42.htm This does not imply they cannot be commanded to come out of people. The problem is, some pastors in "deliverance ministries" chatter and talk with devils. This is folly and could result in the deliverer being possessed. RAY STEDMAN, NOT KJV, ON WITCHCRAFT IN NEW TESTAMENT: http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/acts/0442.html David Bay, Director of Old Paths Ministries, a ministry of Grace Baptist Church on Witchcraft and the Roman Catholic Church: http://www.cuttingedge.org/ce1059.html WICCA AND HUMAN SACRIFICE-- A REFORMED EFFORT: http://www.forerunner.com/champion/X0042_What_is_the_Wiccan_r.html AND http://www.forerunner.com/champion/X0039_Child_Sacrifice_in_t.html
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#45. To: christine (#31)
Please be specific. What did I say that singled out women?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Well, a little spanking can be fun sometimes. Agreed, women should have curves, not angles.
Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.
Yeah the way you show love to a witch is say its ok honey your going to heaven, we all are. Jesus said his word would DIVIDE. Is the bible the word of God or isn't it? Lets say the king james version. Is it 100 percent accurate, becuse if its not then it isnt the word of God. What say you?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Is the bible the word of God or isn't it? Lets say the king james version. Is it 100 percent accurate, becuse if its not then it isnt the word of God. What say you? What say I?? I say youre making a mockery of Christ..turning people away from God than drawing them to Him..
I need to learn to more smoothly transisition between blaring idiot and understatement.
LOL!! Been there ..many times ;P
Turning people away and drawing them to him. That makes no sense at all. How about an answer to the question above that you didn't answer.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Christ said some really subversive things, I love him for that.
Yeah, some of the same jerks over there are here now including [REDACTED] who is on bozo. I learned about this site from [REDACTED]. LP was pretty much overrun with christophobes, bushbots and otherwise callous individuals. When I had to fill a 40 blank bozo list just to cut through the clutter, it became too much work. I have no problem with those who disagree with me or I with them until I see hate-filled ad hominem personal attacks that are not based on reason or logic...like the sarcastic comment above to which I replied with 'f**k you'. This kind of crap gets one bozod, not the fact that we disagree. If people can't debate with logic and reason, without resorting to name calling, they're gone. Cheers.
your hatred, arrogant judgmentalism, and filthy mouthed attacks on women sicken me. you're delusional if you think you're a witness for Christ.
#46. To: IndieTX (#38)
I do not support bigotry against women
#47. To: Zipporah (#42)
Exactly.. the bible says that you will know them (Christians) by their love.. and I dont mean the love of lopping off people's heads .. but the love of Christ .. which is revealed through his people .. so if they're not exhibiting love.. so what should that tell us?
#48. To: A K A Stone (#47)
Yeah the way you show love to a witch is say its ok honey your going to heaven, we all are. Jesus said his word would DIVIDE.
#49. To: Zipporah (#42)
#50. To: Dakmar (#49)
I need to learn to more smoothly transisition between blaring idiot and understatement.
#51. To: Zipporah (#48)
What say I?? I say youre making a mockery of Christ..turning people away from God than drawing them to Him..
#52. To: Zipporah (#48)
I say youre making a mockery of Christ..turning people away from God than drawing them to Him..
#53. To: RickyJ (#41)
I was wondering why you left LP. I am not surprised Goldi would let anti-Chrisitan articles reamin posted while at the same time removing anti-Jewish articles. How did you learn about this site? Do you think most people over there know about this site?
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden
#54. To: Zipporah (#48)
So show me something I said that is not true according to the Bible. Does the Bible say witches are good and we should follow their examples? Or does it say that they are evil and do the work of satan?
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#55. To: swarthyguy (#46)
Agreed, women should have curves, not angles. Correction: "I do not support UNREQUESTED bigotry against women." ;))
Well, a little spanking can be fun sometimes.
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden
#56. To: IndieTX (#55)
Where did the first Satanic doctrine hatch? Eve had listened to Satan as he tempted her to sin against God. She rebelled and ate the fruit, just as Wiccans and Satanists have done today. Thus, God said there would be enmity between God's seed-people and Satan's seed-people from then on until the earth was destroyed in the future. Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. The evil men who are the seed of Satan are defined by Jesus much later. Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. There is NO gray area. Either men are good seed, or they are tare, or weed, seed. The product of Satanic seed, whether Wiccans, Satanists, or New Agers, will burn in hell. They are the same family. There is no third way! Note next that a sorcerer (which is the King James Bible name for a witch-- still is for that matter) is a "child of the devil." "The devil" is Satan in the Bible, and witches are his children. Thus, any worship, whether to Mother Nature, Lucifer, Pan, Kali, The "Blessed Virgin," Mithra, Shiva, Old Nick or any other stand in, is in fact Satan worship, for Satan IS the devil. Acts 13:8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. 9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him. 10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? Thus, Sorcerer (witch) equals Child of The Devil (Satan). Wiccans are not alone. ALL who reject Christ as absolute Lord of their life are Satan worshipers in their heart.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#57. To: A K A Stone (#47)
If the any part of the KJV is inaccurate then only that part is not the word of God, not the rest of it. Trying to say the whole KJV is not the word of God because it might have a few translations of words that aren't completely accurate is what I would suspect a non-Christian to say, not someone who claims to be a Christian. Oh, if you really believe that we are under the old law then I suspect you will now try to kill the witches you have uncovered on these forums, right?
Is the bible the word of God or isn't it? Lets say the king james version. Is it 100 percent accurate, becuse if its not then it isnt the word of God. What say you?
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
#58. To: A K A Stone (#54)
Stone knock it off.. it's obvious you're trolling .. no question ..
#59. To: swarthyguy (#43)
These so-called "christian" "witch" (?) burners are probably wishing they had asbestos suits about now. "LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE." -- Jesus protecting Mary Magdalene.
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden
#60. To: RickyJ (#57)
I think that the Bible is the perfect word of God. God said he would translate it to many languages. If there is something in the Bible that seems to be a contradiction, pray about it and study and i'm sure you will find Gods word to be accurate and true.
If the any part of the KJV is inaccurate then only that part is not the word of God, not the rest of it. Trying to say the whole KJV is not the word of God because it might have a few translations of words that aren't completely accurate is what I would suspect a non-Christian to say, not someone who claims to be a Christian.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#61. To: Zipporah (#58)
So in other words you will not acknowledge Christ before men. I have my answer. Bye
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
#62. To: Dakmar (#52)
He came back, but unfortunately, he got locked up for subversive activity.
Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.
#63. To: Zipporah (#50)
#64. To: A K A Stone (#61)
You fool! Zip could out argue you on the Bible and ways of faith with one half of her brain tied behind her back. It takes a mighty small man to come to someone elses forum, insult the hostesses then run away. Your version of being a christian is scary. I am glad I know my Savior.
#65. To: Dakmar (#52)
My Sky-Ghost/Jeebus schtick must've really pissed off one of the nutted-up witch-burners, they put me on bozo. LOL! Made my day.
between being stumbled over or being kicked.
#66. To: IndieTX (#59)
They'll stone you..and then they say good luck, But I would not feel so all alone Everybody must get stoned. Imagine the shock when they invited you to a stoning, and handed you a bong. Whoops, WOW, not WOD thread.
Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.
#67. To: Dakmar (#63)
LOL!! Love it! Too funny...
#68. To: Esso (#65)
They hate you for some reason.
My Sky-Ghost/Jeebus schtick must've really pissed off one of the nutted-up witch-burners, they put me on bozo. LOL! Made my day.
#69. To: Dakmar (#20)
here's the verse that causes people to say this. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: and then here's a verse that says something that people can interpret differently. Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. I concluded that we are saved by god's grace through our faith, but with this faith good works automatically result. and if they don't, then something's wrong. but exactly what the good works are is to be inspired by the spirit, not by us. what we think of as good works may not be what god thinks of as good works. for some people good works means making a donation to the Republican National Committee.
they can get into into heaven anyway as long as they have faith.
#70. To: swarthyguy (#66)
Just say where and when!!!! ;) [Isn't it about time the USA became truly Free?]
Imagine the shock when they invited you to a stoning, and handed you a bong.
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden
#71. To: IndieTX (#18)
Agree - but there's that niggling little verse that tells us, "By their works, shall ye know them." And the "Faith without works, is dead." verse also pops to mind. Since I'm looking through a crappy, cloudy mirror, I figger that best I do some good while I'm here, and while I still can. It can't hurt.
Christianity teaches that there is NOTHING you CAN do to PROVE yourself or earn salvation. Period. It is all about GRACE...NOT WORKS.
#72. To: Red Jones (#69)
#73. To: Red Jones (#69)
Faith in Jesus alone, or love for God? I think people from other continents can go to heaven.
I concluded that we are saved by god's grace through our faith, but with this faith good works automatically result. and if they don't, then something's wrong.
#74. To: Esso (#65)
Where can a get the right transfer case for a setup like that?
My Sky-Ghost/Jeebus schtick must've really pissed off one of the nutted-up witch-burners, they put me on bozo. LOL! Made my day.
#75. To: Dakmar (#74)
My neighbor, Mark, can get you one, but it's gonna cost you. He also needs a week lead-time.
Where can a get the right transfer case for a setup like that?
between being stumbled over or being kicked.
#76. To: Esso (#75)
We'll need lots of bleach, stock up!
Quit bogarting that peace, crackwhore!
#77. To: lodwick (#71)
here's some of those verses you were talking about: James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? James 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. James 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way? James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
#78. To: lodwick (#71)
TRUE LOD...but the difference is this: The Bible teaches Grace. And by that Grace we do works as a natural result..a thank you so to speak. Other religions preach: Do this or go to hell. Big difference. And yes I'm with you. Doing what I can to help a little each day..because I want to..not because I'm required to. :) Out of love.
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden
#79. To: IndieTX (#78)
My simple belief is that we are saved by Grace, through Faith, and after that we should always do the good and right thing in our daily lives. Those works, I believe, will determine whether as Paul puts it, we're gatekeepers (not at all a bad thing, considering the alternative) or are stationed somewhere else, hereafter...consider the thief on the cross whom Christ promised that "this day you will be with me in Paradise" - dude had no chance whatever to do any good works, but his eternal soul was saved in that one moment. Amazing Grace.
#80. To: Dakmar (#73)
you're asking big questions. my advice is don't be a naysayer who just wants to tear down, but don't take too seriously every person who quotes a bible. the christians will all say that there is one god, that one god is a spirit and that when jesus was here he was that god offerred as a sacrifice to facilitate the forgiveness of sins. you will see it said many times in the bible that to be saved or receive everlasting life it must be through faith in this one god, and sometimes will identify this one god as jesus or a name used to describe jesus. But you realize that the christians don't separate jesus from god in their minds, they are the same. But if god is a spirit and was only manifested as jesus, then your question is from logical view very reasonable. Is it possible that people from outside 'christian' tradition to be admitted to kingdom of heaven if they worship this spirit that is god, but use a different name or operate in a religious tradition other than that which calls jesus name in a literal sense? Frequently this question is asked. I think the logic shown in Romans Chapter 2 is used as an answer. Somewhere in the bible the logic is explained better than here, but I can't remember where or find it. In Romans 2 it brings you through the logic that people outside the faith can still be loyal to their consciences and thus follow the laws that god gives even though they're not taught the laws. The thinking is that the conscience is made by god, and the people each as individuals are tasked with being loyal to that conscience. Go against your conscience and you go against god is the thinking. So, people outside the faith not taught the faith still can be pious and loyal to their conscience and judged affirmatively when judgement comes. This is the argument frequently used to answer your question. The truth is Dakmar, nobody knows exactly how judgement will work, it is a mystery. The bible does say that many will be very surprised. Judgement is for him, not for us. We don't know the exact standards.
Faith in Jesus alone, or love for God? I think people from other continents can go to heaven.
#81. To: Red Jones (#77)
Paul wanted folks to know that they couldn't do anything to earn salvation, but once saved, James wanted them to get off their ass, and DO good things...imo. There's really no conflict, just different messages, at different stages of the plan.
Thanks for all the references.
#82. To: Red Jones (#80)
Exactly. It's about being righteous.
people outside the faith not taught the faith still can be pious and loyal to their conscience and judged affirmatively when judgement comes. This is the argument frequently used to answer your question.
Quit bogarting that peace, crackwhore!
#83. To: A K A Stone (#1)
errr....Stone....the Blessed Virgin is Mary, mother of Christ, venerated by many Christians and Catholics especially. Are Catholics also Satanists"?
The "Blessed Virgin,"
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#84. To: CAPPSMADNESS, A K A Stone (#4)
What I have to wonder is why such a thread gets such a high response. It seems to me that the article is true, there is nothing really to argue about it IMO. If this article upsets those that practice Wicca or whatever, than so be it. I would hope it would upset them, maybe then they will change their ways and accept Jesus before it is eternally too late.
Just finished reading your thread on your forum - admit it, you are picking a fight here to get people to come there and fight with you, hence, increasing YOUR numbers.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush
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