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Title: WICCA AND SATANISM Are they really totally unrelated as Wiccans claim?
Source: blessedquietness.com
URL Source: http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/wiccastn.htm
Published: May 23, 2006
Author: unattributed
Post Date: 2006-05-23 18:38:32 by A K A Stone
Keywords: satanists, burn in hell, wicca
Views: 926
Comments: 84

We have been receiving threats from Wicca of litigation and prophecies of our death. What is the problem? Answer: One thing alone-- Our contention that Satan is the lord and master and object of worship of Wicca. Wicca, an ancient offshoot of witchcraft and Druidism, claims they have nothing to do with Satan. So, here is the reason we say that Wicca's god is Satan, according to the King James Bible.

Jesus speaks to the Pharisees, but He speaks to ALL men and women who reject His exclusive Lordship over them.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

The nature of Satan as a murderer is seen in witchcraft's and Wicca's practice of sacrificing animals and babies.

Can Wiccans and Satanists dream up doctrines which look religious and give them self-confidence in rejecting Jesus?

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart (of man) is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Where did the first Satanic doctrine hatch?

Eve had listened to Satan as he tempted her to sin against God. She rebelled and ate the fruit, just as Wiccans and Satanists have done today. Thus, God said there would be enmity between God's seed-people and Satan's seed-people from then on until the earth was destroyed in the future.

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The evil men who are the seed of Satan are defined by Jesus much later.

Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

There is NO gray area. Either men are good seed, or they are tare, or weed, seed. The product of Satanic seed, whether Wiccans, Satanists, or New Agers, will burn in hell. They are the same family. There is no third way!

Note next that a sorcerer (which is the King James Bible name for a witch-- still is for that matter) is a "child of the devil."

"The devil" is Satan in the Bible, and witches are his children. Thus, any worship, whether to Mother Nature, Lucifer, Pan, Kali, The "Blessed Virgin," Mithra, Shiva, Old Nick or any other stand in, is in fact Satan worship, for Satan IS the devil.

Acts 13:8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.

9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him.

10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

Thus, Sorcerer (witch) equals Child of The Devil (Satan).

Wiccans are not alone. ALL who reject Christ as absolute Lord of their life are Satan worshipers in their heart.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

There are just two churches if you will-- The Church of Jesus Christ and the church of Satan. No third way exists.

In the coming Great Tribulation the wrath of God is poured out on all who rebel against God.

Note that they who have been punished severely by God six times still hang onto four sins. "Sorceries," which is Wicca, along with Satanism and witchcraft today, is one sin men WILL NOT give up.

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Those who reject the Lord Jesus Christ as their sole Master are rebels, and witchcraft is their religion.

That they call themselves Druids, Wiccans, Pagans, Cabbalists, or Satanists is incidental and pointless. They are ALL witches by religion.

1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

The familiar spirit below is NOT the spirit of God. So, it is Satan. There is no other spirit, contrary to the imaginations of Satanists, Pagans, and Wiccans.

2 Chronicles 33:1 Manasseh was twelve years old when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and five years in Jerusalem:

2 But did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, like unto the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD had cast out before the children of Israel.

3 For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his father had broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them.

4 Also he built altars in the house of the LORD, whereof the LORD had said, In Jerusalem shall my name be for ever.

5 And he built altars for all the host of heaven in the two courts of the house of the LORD.

6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

7 And he set a carved image, the idol which he had made, in the house of God, of which God had said to David and to Solomon his son, In this house, and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen before all the tribes of Israel, will I put my name for ever:

Note the associations Wiccans and Satanists share in their cult of witchcraft.

There are only two masters, two religions, two doctrinal systems. No amount of shuckin and jivin can alter this truth in God's Holy Word.

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Five "I Will" statements are made by Lucifer, who is Satan.

In the past, Satan was without sin, but sin was found in him, and his five acts of rebellion were in the form of self-will assertion. The number Five is associated with death in the Bible. Wicca, witchcraft, and Satanism teach that you are to follow YOUR will. The only distinction between Wicca and Satanism is that Wicca claims to restrain the hurting of others. Ironically, many Wiccans have started in the self-will God hatred only to progress on to Human and animal sacrifice. They hate this truth being raised before their eyes, and some Wiccans have actually deceived themselves into believing their lies. So did Hitler, one of history's most famous witches and human sacrifice gurus.

Isaiah 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. Who was there supervising the fall from heaven of Satan?

Jesus was in charge for He was the creator of Satan.

Without Jesus was not anything made that was made. John 1 Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

Conclusion:

We now see that ALL who rebel against God and His Son, Jesus Christ, are in the same religion. What THEY think they are is 100% beside the point. Whether Wiccans, Hindus, Satanists, Nazis, Pagan, "Christian" pagans, "Christian" witches, or just beer drinking generic rebels, they are ALL members of the religion of Satan worship and Devil worship. Their rebellion and self-exaltation is their choice by default. They are full members of Satan's church, and they will spend eternity with Satan covered with maggots and burning in flames. I wish they would repent and turn to Jesus Christ as their absolute Lord. It is beyond imagination what they will suffer for their present choices. This is the definition given by the King James Bible, which is the last and only authority on this subject. Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

We are here to help you if you want to repent and be delivered from this bondage.

Shalom.

LINKS TO SATANIC AND NEW AGE SITES ON THE Web: We suggest only researchers use these links. This is a very select list, but you will easily find some explicit filth here. Also, from time to time, filthy witches change their Home Page to a porn forwarding page just to spite me. They prove who the real warrior is, and that Jesus Christ is the one who is winning. But, do not assume I have put up these links to porn pages. Rather; send E-Mail to let me know what you found please. We have learned how to bring back Web sites which have been taken off the Web. The links below have been revived for research purposes.

IN THE WORDS OF THE NOTED ASCENDED MASTER OF THE 1950s: Eeee Aaaaaa Uuuuu Aha, Ting Tang, Awullah Wullah Bing Bang..... PHILLY POLICE PLAY DUMB IN AN OBVIOUS RITUAl KILLING: http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/5290180.htm SPIRIT WEB-- Michael the Archangel is channeled as well as other insane notions: http://www.spiritweb.org/index.html SAINT GERMAIN AND THE ALCHEMIST MYTHS: http://www.lateralscience.co.uk/alchemy/index.html I have seen this nutty stuff in a customer of my piano tuning trade. He claimed he had speeded up light in his garage. UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA STUDENT CLUB-- Evil is good cult: http://www.unl.edu/innocent/mission.htm TZIMON, A LOUD MOUTH WITCH, HOPES YOU WILL THINK CHILD SACRIFICE IS JUST A MYTH AFTER READING THIS: http://www.paganlibrary.com/humor/christian_baby_soup.php HERE IS TZIMON'S WITCHY PAGE: http://web.archive.org/web/19991008104643/www.crl.com/~tzimon/ Poor man-- he thinks we are gone :-) SOLID SOURCE FOR COMMITTED WITCHCRAFT: http://fnordfiles.rtfm.com.au/texts/Occult/occult.htm WOMEN'S LIBERATION WRITINGS: http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/wlm/ Theosophical live online programs: This is the occult Satanic system promoted by Madam Blavatsky and Freemason Albert Pike. http://www.ult.org/index2.html OCCULT ENCYCLOPEDIA ONLINE http://www.occultopedia.com/welcome.htm CHANNELING TO THE EXTREME http://www3.ceinternet.com.au/~galactac/14nltr02.htm BUCKMINSTER FULLER-- You will never find a more spaced out New Ager anywhere http://omnifelicity.com/bucky/Default.htm GEORGIA GUIDESTONES: http://www.lamblion.com/other/social/SI-18.html THE BURNING MAN If you need to find more on this, use the search engines, but beware of the photos. Panorama of the event attendees "AND THE FARMER HAULED ANOTHER LOAD AWAY" DEPARTMENT These people tried to go away, but we brought them back :-) SOMEBODY HATES BIBLE BELIEVERS: PROMOTING PAGANISM WICCA

HARTZ MOUNTAINS, GERMANY:

GERMAN WITCHCRAFT REVIVAL: http://www.shadowplayzine.com/Articles/paganism_in_germany_.htm GERMAN HALLOWEEN TRADITION: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Halloween_Traditions/message/1361 PLACE OF PAGAN SACRIFICES: http://www.fellowshipofisis.com/jc/jcapr23.html HOLDA AND HARTZ: http://www.ealdriht.org/frige.html FAUST-- DAMNATION IN HIGH TONES-- INCLUDING HARTZ MOUNTAINS: http://www.levity.com/alchemy/faust18.html SECOND VERSION: http://glenavalon.com/walpurgisnight.html INTERESTING BRIDGE FROM CATHOLIC LORE TO WITCHES: http://users.erols.com/saintpat/ss/0225.htm

DOCTRINAIRE NEW AGE WRITINGS:

http://www.spiritweb.org/ This one went away, but we got it back for you. ESOTERIC LINKS: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/5530/links.htm LISTING OF OCCULT SITES: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lights/5682/occulink.html THE MOST HIGHLY CONCENTRATED MIXTURE OF NEW AGE POPPYCOCK IN THE WORLD: http://www.davidicke.com/icke/main.html CIRCLE OF LIGHT ALCHEMISTS: http://www.lightworker.com/ BIBLE BELIEVER HATER: http://www.swampfox.demon.co.uk/utlah/werecard/thorulf.html NEW AGE AMERICAN INDIAN LORE: http://newageinfo.com/bus/cymry/mysteries1.html DARKNESS AND DEATH-- Habitation of witches and god haters: http://www.stygianlabyrinth.net/ Mr. Mystic Filth, Aleister Crowley, Vomits for you: http://www.rahoorkhuit.net/library/crowley/clouds.html RIGHT ON OUT IN SPACE-- Breathing Yogic Instructions: http://www3.mistral.co.uk/pyramidas/secrets_4.htm OUR FAN CLUB IN WICCA LAND: http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcr1.htm YIN AND YANG: http://www.nisbett.com/symbols/yin_and_yang.htm WITCHES CALENDAR OF EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR: http://www.salemtarot.com/events.html WICCANS GET THEIR OWN US ARMY CHAPLAIN: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000271261842766&rtmo=pQpUsese&atmo= ggggg3qK&pg=/et/99/5/14/wpag14.html ME THINKS HE PROTESTETH TOO MUCH: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bkb1827/main.htm Read Metaphysical and Occult books Online in Complete form-- Especially Madam Balvatsky: http://www-cgi.cs.cmu.edu/cgi-bin/book/subjectstart?BP Testimony of a witch who met Jesus GODDESS AND WICCA WORSHIP: http://www.artemis.centrum.is/~snorrigb/Cult-fem.htm#Venus And regarding the New Age: http://artemis.centrum.is/~snorrigb/2000.htm

GODDESS WORSHIP AND WITCHCRAFT:

Isis "Thousand names" of the Goddess Witches webring Goddess webring The Goddess Goddess/feminist links Goddesses of the World The Goddess Index The Goddess Homepage WITCHCRAFT AND HUMAN SACRIFICE-- Primal force behind abortion-- This is powerful research: http://www.forerunner.com/champion/X0040_Massacre_of_Innocenc.html ROBERT GILLETTE SUPPLIES US WITH THE MOST USEFUL LINK SELECTION I HAVE SEEN ON THE ILLUMINATI: You should visit his page to read his views on the subject. He is right on target and not extremist: http://members.tripod.com/~RobertGillette/Illuminati.html

ILLUMINATI RESEARCH HELPS:

Bavarian Illuminati: HELPFUL BOOKS: Illuminism Worldwide: Secret Magical Societies: Priests of the Network: More Network: Illuminism Continued: Pagan Gnostics: The Plot: Blavatsky’s Illuminism: Network Directory : Myron Fagan is WRONG about the Jews: This is off the Web, but we have ways..... Illuminati Links: Scottish Rite: Thelema: This is off the Web, but we have ways..... Illuminist Networking: Essay on Secret Societies: Occult Network: Illuminism: The Evil Network: Official Temple of Set Satanist Website: The Gnostic Pagan Tradition: A Claim of a Scientology Connection to Satanism: Satanic Search Engine: A Claim of Satanist Infiltration of the Vatican: The Illuminati: Cutting Edge Transcripts: Phoenix Links: Sympnia Pantheon: The Gnostic Society: Other Zoroastrians: THE KABBALAH: Wing of the Network:

SKULL AND BONES VIDEO NEW WORLD ORDER-- Practical?? Applications of the Pagan Filth LATEST WORD FROM THE BEYOND Wiccan promoters Gavin and Yvonne Frost http://www.drleisure.com/mta1.html

NON-WITCHCRAFT SITE EXPOSING THE OCCULT AND FREEMASONRY IN EUROPE http://www.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/ A HATE AND TWISTED SISTER PAGE WHERE WE ARE "HONORED" BY WITCHES: http://www.angelfire.com/il/WildOrchid/index.html GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD: http://www.all-natural.com/gwb.html AND http://www.sd.com.au/db/hood.htm AND http://205.243.132.23/arc.html AND THE VIOLET FLAME-- http://205.243.132.23/vi-flame.html AND http://www.tsl.org/germain.html (has been offline since 1997-- We know how to.....) AND http://www.tsl.org/church.html (Ditto.....) SEE WHY WITCHES NEED TO BORN AGAIN: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/7437/ Interesting response to our page! WHITE BUFFALO CULT TAKING IN AMERICAN INDIANS: Need new date here.... DISCUSSION OF HUMAN SACRIFICE BY A WICCAN: They tried to bury this, but we have it.... http://www.sils.umich.edu/~sjgavula/wiccahist.html VERY BUSY SITE FROM ALASKA WITH RESOURCES: http://www.witchvox.net/wotw/wwp_a/alaska_a.html?-token.skip=50 DISCUSSION OF HUMAN SACRIFICE BY SECULARISTS: http://www.forerunner.com/champion/X0042_What_is_the_Wiccan_r.html LIST OF LINKS TO WICCAN PAGES: http://students.missouri.edu/~sacredw/links.html AFRICAN VERSION OF WICCA: http://www.animal-law.org/sacrifice/sacrfc.htm ANIMAL SACRIFICE IN SANTARIA http://www.animal-law.org/sacrifice/sacrfc.htm EVOLUTION AND WICCA http://www.netkonect.co.uk/e/evolution/wicca.htm

CHURCH OF SATAN http://www.churchofsatan.com/ Anton LaVey

ECCLESIA GNOSTIC CATHOLICA http://www.crl.com/~thelema/egc.html

THELEMA http://www.crystalinks.com/crowley.html Alister Crowley's cult.

THE GOLDEN DAWN http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/index.shtml

THE SABBATS OF WICCA http://www.feri.com/frand/Wicca4.html

KABBALAH HOME PAGE http://www.io.org/~vma/kabbalah.html Pagan Babylonian Jewish filth-- Was taken off the Web, but, Wallah, here it is.....

HELENA PETROVNA BLAVATSKY AND LUCIS TRUST AND ALBERT PIKE: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Lucis_Trust.htm

OCCULT CONNECTIONS IN FREEMASONRY SOURCE: http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/sitemap.html

FINDHORN FOUNDATION http://www.findhorn.org/ Nutty as a fruit cake.

NEW AGE DIRECTORY http://www.newage-directory.com/

NEW AGE JOURNAL http://www.newage.com/Journal/

SETI INSTITUTE http://www.seti-inst.edu/ Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence

SUMERIA http://www.livelinks.com/sumeria/ Alternative ideas in health, science, and spirituality. AND: http://pubpages.unh.edu/~cbsiren/sumer-faq.html Useful for information

AGE OF AQUARIUS: http://www.aquarian-age.net/

UTNE READER http://www.utne.com/ Very strange and sometimes useful information.

WITCHES OF THE WEST http://www.mcs.net/~woad/home.html

OCCULTISTS UNDER PAIN: http://www.theescapist.com/darkdungeons.htm

ORDO TEMPLI ORIENTIS http://otohq.org/oto/ INSPIRATION IS THE IN-BREATH OF SPIRIT http://www.aa.net/~erika/

ATTACKING THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT AND FUNDAMENTALISTS- http://ftp.tcp.com/qrd/www/FTR/tblcntnt.html NEW AGE INFO BY THEM-- GREAT SOURCE http://www.newageinfo.com/ ECKANKAR (tm) EXPOSED http://www.eckankar.org/ NEW AGE VERY ARTICULATE: http://revealer.com/ MINDLESS EXALTATION OF SATAN: http://www.anus.com/altar/

Many of the above links have further links to other occult and New Age pages. Be cautious, and only venture here if you NEED some research items. This is NOT an area to look for amusement. Pray first, pleading the Blood of The Lord Jesus Christ over yourself. Have a friend with you to discipline yourself against evil curiosity.

LINKS TO SAINTS WHO ARE EXPOSING THE NEW AGE: DELIVERANCE MINISTRY, THOUGH QUESTIONS REMAIN: http://www.demonbuster.com/ CONSTANDE CUMBY ON THE NEW AGE: http://www.pathlights.com/theselastdays/tracts/tract_31c.htm NEW AGE AS THE FOUNDATION OF NEW CULTS AND RELIGIONS: I am sorry about the background, but the content is useful http://religion-cults.com/Secret/New-Age/New_Age.htm NEVER CONVERSE WITH DEMONS: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2001/frankm42.htm This does not imply they cannot be commanded to come out of people. The problem is, some pastors in "deliverance ministries" chatter and talk with devils. This is folly and could result in the deliverer being possessed. RAY STEDMAN, NOT KJV, ON WITCHCRAFT IN NEW TESTAMENT: http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/acts/0442.html David Bay, Director of Old Paths Ministries, a ministry of Grace Baptist Church on Witchcraft and the Roman Catholic Church: http://www.cuttingedge.org/ce1059.html WICCA AND HUMAN SACRIFICE-- A REFORMED EFFORT: http://www.forerunner.com/champion/X0042_What_is_the_Wiccan_r.html AND http://www.forerunner.com/champion/X0039_Child_Sacrifice_in_t.html

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#1. To: All, pandora, ferret mike (#0)

Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

There is NO gray area. Either men are good seed, or they are tare, or weed, seed. The product of Satanic seed, whether Wiccans, Satanists, or New Agers, will burn in hell. They are the same family. There is no third way!

Note next that a sorcerer (which is the King James Bible name for a witch-- still is for that matter) is a "child of the devil."

"The devil" is Satan in the Bible, and witches are his children. Thus, any worship, whether to Mother Nature, Lucifer, Pan, Kali, The "Blessed Virgin," Mithra, Shiva, Old Nick or any other stand in, is in fact Satan worship, for Satan IS the devil.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-23   18:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Whether Wiccans, Hindus, Satanists, Nazis, Pagan, "Christian" pagans, "Christian" witches, or just beer drinking generic rebels, they are ALL members of the religion of Satan worship and Devil worship.

Damn, why does monotheism lead to such delusionary flights of fancy?

satan is simply a device used by the Monotheists to demonize and put the fear of the Goddess into those they disagree with.

The word derives from the Persian/Indian "Shaitan" - a mischief maker, akin to the Greek gods Pan and Dionysius.

Satan exults in this life, not some imaginary bullshit hereafter, believes in the indulgence of the senses and literally puts the fear of god into those who are scared of our human values, sexuality and fun.

In terms of a source of evil, NADA, the evil lies, like everything else, within our own pointy little heads.

The Wiccans are pretty much harmless, if somewhat nutty (but then again, which religion isn't) nature worshippers.

Why the fear and hostility towards them. Simple. They threaten those who buy into the deep voiced vindictive god speaking from the skies asking humans to prove themselves by committing some act to prove their fealty to him.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-23   18:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Hmm as this continues.. on and on ad nauseum.. I'm beginning to ask myself.. now what truly IS the purpose.. a couple of things come to mind..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   18:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Just finished reading your thread on your forum - admit it, you are picking a fight here to get people to come there and fight with you, hence, increasing YOUR numbers.

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2006-05-23   18:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#3)

Sitting Shiva

PAN -

Bacchus was not originally Roman at all but was rather a Latinized form of the Greek Dionysus, god of wine and intoxication, of wild, uncultivated nature, of ritual madness and ecstasy, and of “otherness,”impersonation, and drama. In Greek art Dionysus is often portrayed as an older male with long black hair and beard, wearing animal skins and wreathed with ivy, carrying a sacred thyrsus, a long staff topped with grapes or a pine cone. The worship of Dionysus, involving ecstatic dancing, appealed particularly to women; when Bacchic festivals, called Bacchanalia, were imported into Rome the authorities strongly disapproved. In 186 BCE, the Senate outlawed Bacchic cults and apparently succeeded in suppressing the wilder forms of this worship, although more “domesticated” versions of the cult survived and Bacchic themes were very popular in Roman art, which emphasized Bacchus as a youthful god of wine and the good life.

This Roman bronze figurine, dating from the second century CE, has silver encrusted eyes. Bacchus is shown in typical Roman fashion, as a beardless, rather effeminate youth; he wears a crown of leaves and flowers. He is accompanied by the half-goat, half-human god Pan, patron of shepherds and flocks, whom the Romans identified with Faunus, a native Italian god of the wild forests. In this statuette, Pan offers Bacchus a bunch of grapes.

Sounds like more fun than a teetotalling church/mosque/synagogue service.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-23   18:57:29 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: swarthyguy (#5)

Now wouldnt that be one heck of carry-in dinner ;P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   19:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#6)

The worship of Dionysus, involving ecstatic dancing, appealed particularly to women;

From above, this fear is simply the fear of women.

If you haven't, Camille Paglia's Sexual Personae is a great read.

At least the first few chapters and the last couple. The middle is literary analysis of various great writers.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-23   19:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#6)

When the British banned Kali worship in India, the Hindus simply transmorgified her into DurgaMata.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-23   19:06:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: swarthyguy (#7)

From above, this fear is simply the fear of women.

If you haven't, Camille Paglia's Sexual Personae is a great read.

At least the first few chapters and the last couple. The middle is literary analysis of various great writers.

Hmm I've not read it.. I'll check it out..

Now are you saying that those who are so rigid have a fear of women?

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   19:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#9)

so rigid have a fear of women

Well, they shouldn't. Women are known to appreciate a certain level of "rigidity".

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-23   19:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: swarthyguy (#8)

When the British banned Kali worship in India, the Hindus simply transmorgified her into DurgaMata.

I know a little re the Vedas..not a lot.. wasnt aware of this though..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   19:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: swarthyguy (#10)

Well, they shouldn't. Women are known to appreciate a certain level of "rigidity".

oh my.. ;)

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   19:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Zipporah (#11)

Here's Durga, they gave her a prettier face but snakes, tigers/lions, maces, sword, trident and all those arms still stand.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-23   19:11:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#0)

It looks like the Taliban is set to retake parts of southern Afghanistan, if you hurry maybe you can catch a flight and help them destroy some ancient Buddhist monuments.

Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-23   19:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: swarthyguy (#13)

Here's Durga, they gave her a prettier face but snakes, tigers/lions, maces, sword, trident and all those arms still stand.

Yes exactly like Shiva..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   19:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Dakmar (#14)

Why go to all that trouble when he can murder some children right here in the good 'ol USA and blame it on Sky-Ghost or Jeebus?

Ya gotta have government backing before you can go halfway around the world to murder people in the name of Sky- Ghost/Jeebus.

Even a dog is smart enough to make the determination
between being stumbled over or being kicked.

Esso  posted on  2006-05-23   19:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: swarthyguy (#2)

oh boy..now you've gone and done it. you're going to be added to his list of satanists, swarthy!

The Impossible Dream

christine  posted on  2006-05-23   19:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: swarthyguy, a k a stone, red jones, lodwick, all (#2)

They threaten those who buy into the deep voiced vindictive god speaking from the skies asking humans to prove themselves by committing some act to prove their fealty to him.

Correction to the above quote as it relates to Christianity: Christianity teaches that there is NOTHING you CAN do to PROVE yourself or earn salvation. Period. It is all about GRACE...NOT WORKS. [By contrast, Islam teahces just the opposite]

So tell me, how much Christianity have your studied?? LOL.



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IndieTX  posted on  2006-05-23   19:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CAPPSMADNESS, A K A Stone (#4)

i did too. it sickened me.

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christine  posted on  2006-05-23   19:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Esso (#16)

Christians would never murdrer anyone.

Oh, I forgot, it doesn't matter, they can get into into heaven anyway as long as they have faith. Now those peacenik Jains on the other hand...

Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-23   19:26:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: IndieTX (#18)

Ex 22:18 - Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

De 18:10 - There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-23   19:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine (#19)

i did too. it sickened me.

What sickens you. God said witches are from the devil. Im just the messanger. Do you not believe the word of God?

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-23   19:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone, red jones (#21)

Nice Christian hit thread where all of the Christophobes come out of the closet..the same reason I left LP. At least I know who to BOZO now.



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IndieTX  posted on  2006-05-23   19:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Dakmar (#20)

Christians would never murdrer anyone.

Oh, I forgot, it doesn't matter, they can get into into heaven anyway as long as they have faith. Now those peacenik Jains on the other hand...

F**k you biggot.



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IndieTX  posted on  2006-05-23   19:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: IndieTX (#24)

F**k you biggot.

That's very Christian of you. Do you even have a clue who Jains are?

Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-23   19:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: swarthyguy (#5)

About the picture of Pan. What's up with his anatomy? Is this placement typical of Pans?

Thanks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-05-23   19:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: IndieTX (#18)

how much Christianity have your studied??

Christianity teaches that there is NOTHING you CAN do to PROVE yourself or earn salvation

Not much.

Like ole Abraham. Oh, he wasn't Christian, was he.

But you say one thing, Falwell says another, Robertson another, the Pope another, etc etc.

When you guys figger it out, lemme know.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-23   19:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Hey AKA,

I'm working on a spraycan of "Witch-B-Gone."

Do you think we can patent it?

It would really annoy a lot of people if they were squirted with it.

Freeper motto: "I read, but do not understand; I write, but make no sense."

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-05-23   19:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: IndieTX (#23)

Nice Christian hit thread where all of the Christophobes come out of the closet..

Yu don't think it's a little absurd that God would send non-Christians to a pit of fire regardless of the love and compassion they exercised all their lives, while allowing murderers into heaven beacause the believed in Jesus? I'm not against Christianity, I'm against close-minded religious bigotry.

Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-23   19:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: YertleTurtle (#28)

Hey AKA,

I'm working on a spraycan of "Witch-B-Gone."

Do you think we can patent it?

It would really annoy a lot of people if they were squirted with it.

That is very funny Turtle. You can sell it at spencers and novelty shops. I think if you could pull it off you might be onto something. Maybe fill it with holy water.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-05-23   19:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#22)

your hatred, arrogant judgmentalism, and filthy mouthed attacks on women sicken me. you're delusional if you think you're a witness for Christ.

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christine  posted on  2006-05-23   19:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: IndieTX (#23)

Nice Christian hit thread

So touchy. It's not christianity, it's the whole cult of monotheism.

Funny, how even a halfbaked conspiracy thriller movie has the christians up in "arms" about it.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-23   19:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

Well, he is Pan and I have not done a comparative study of his anatomical features in various sculptures across time.

But considering he's a randy goat, it's appropos. Unless you're of the tribe of Sappho.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-23   19:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#30)

Maybe fill it with holy water.

I'll get a squirtgun and fill it up at the nearest Catholic church.

Freeper motto: "I read, but do not understand; I write, but make no sense."

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-05-23   19:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#31)

Witch = Woman = Eve.

It's all her damn fault, that shameless hussy, tempting that poor innocent clueless Adom.

Who needed the fruit of the tree of knowledge anyway.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-05-23   19:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

That is Old Testament law; we are not under that now. We are suppose to pray for those that are our enemies, not kill them.

God is always good!
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RickyJ  posted on  2006-05-23   19:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: RickyJ, christine (#36)

Bravo to two great posts!

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2006-05-23   19:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: swarthyguy (#32)

Funny, how even a halfbaked conspiracy thriller movie has the christians up in "arms" about it.

It does indeed. But certainly not me. Why? Because it is a MOVIE!! LMAO!! Just like songwriters, script writers are not required to write the truth, nor are they necessarily pushing the agenda their subject matter implies.

Meanwhile we have muslims burning cities over a damned cartoon..sheesh...

I do not support bigotry against women. [DUH!!!!] My above comments..and subsequent BOZOS were against very specific ad hominem attacks, and not to be taken as general support for any of the things said here.

You are correct in that Monotheism requires works...all except Christianity.



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IndieTX  posted on  2006-05-23   19:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: RickyJ (#36)

That is Old Testament law; we are not under that now. We are suppose to pray for those that are our enemies, not kill them.

Thank you.. and amen!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-23   19:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine, A K A Stone, Indie TX (#31)

your hatred, arrogant judgmentalism, and filthy mouthed attacks on women sicken me. you're delusional if you think you're a witness for Christ.

Bingo, Christine. My grandparents are Christian, it makes them happy and fills their hearts with love. When religion turns people into hateful statist wannabees it seems like prolly a bad thing.

Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs. Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind their own business. Thanks for a nation of finks. Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!- William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-23   19:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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