Reading this, makes me believe that in all honesty the rapture is going to be pretty subjective with all the true believers being destroyed, 144K being saved, and the rest cast into hell.
Because the Bible says only 144k people are worth saving and that’s it. The likelihood of anyone I know, or me being one of those 144k is pretty damned small.
I knew two people who might have qualified to be raptured. I might know one person alive, maybe two that I think might get a pass into heaven. However I do not think that the rapture, as it plays out has much to offer the broken and the downtrodden other than death. Because that’s really what these power elites are going to do with their time on this earth. Ensure there is a meat grinder for all of us unworthy souls to be fed into, just so they can reign on earth.
I would like to believe that at the end of the day that Good prevails and God wins. I’m just a little too skeptical about a religion that more or less espouses one group of people are better than everyone else, and I’m not talking about Christians. I’m talking about the small hat crowd being the center of this fable, where they and they alone waltz into heaven while the rest of the world is set aflame.
If my part in this plan is to die for people who never needed to make the effort to be good in this world then what good is believing in God or redemption really? It is the chief reason why I take great pride in knowing that the end of days, God might not necessarily be watching me, and be focusing on his favorite people so that I can be God’s unseen hand of doom for those who brought our world to ruin.
But that’s just my way of looking at revelations and the end of days. When things finally go live, and Jesus shows up and tells me for all my sins my reward is the dirt and worms, with suffering until that time, I’ll just be glad that I lived the best life I could as per his Dad’s designs.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
Three, when asked about His Second Coming, Jesus said when the abomination of desolation (the Antichrist or a statue of the Antichrist), spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stands in Holy Place (in the rebuilt Temple at the middle of the Tribulation Period), the Jews in Judaea should flee into the mountains (a place prepared by God where they will be supernaturally protected, fed and watered for 3 ½ years; Matt. 24:15-16; Rev. 12:6).
omg...are they still preaching this?
Jesus didn't say "the JEWS" should flee into the mountains. He was talking to the DISCIPLES. Matthew 24:1-3. The CHRISTIANS fled when they saw the city surrounded by the Roman armies, "the abomination that maketh the old temple and the old city desolate". Matthew 24:When YE therefore see the abomination of desolation...16 then let them which be in Judea flee... "The JEWS" weren't about to listen to the one they crucified...the One they didn't want to rule over them, so they stayed in the city and SUFFERED THE CONSEQUENCES.
"...it is with reason supposed, that on this occasion many of the Christians, or converted Jews, who dwelt there, recollecting the warnings or their divine Master, retired to Pella, a place beyond Jordan, situated in a mountainous country, [10] whither (according to Eusebius, who resided near the spot) they came from Jerusalem, and settled, before the war (under Vespasian) began. Other providential opportunities for escaping afterwards occurred, of which, it is probable, those who were now left behind availed themselves ; for it is a striking act, and such as cannot be contemplated by the pious mind without sentiments of devout admiration, that history does not record that even one CHRISTIAN perished in the siege of Jerusalem. Enduring to the end faithful to their blessed MASTER, they, gave credit to his predictions, and escaped the calamity. Thus were fulfilled the words of our Lord, Matt. 24. 13. “He that shall endure unto the end (i. e. of the scene of this prophecy) shall be saved,” i. e. from the calamities which wilt involve all those who shall continue obstinate in unbelief..."
New Testament doesn't say anything about the Jews building a Third Temple. The CHRISTIANS are the "Third Temple". "God does not dwell in temples made with hands." "Know ye not ye are the Temple of God... for I will walk in them and talk in them and they shall be my people, and I will be their God?" There isn't anything HOLY about that old city. That grates on me like fingernails on a chalkboard. Jesus likened it to Sodom and a WHORE.
My computer is pretty full up or i might go on a rant against this preacher, line by line. If anyone WERE to be raptured, which they are not (rapture is a zionist hoax to disarm silly Christians), imo, American Christians for the most part would be the last ones to deserve it, for listening to all these false prophets, and worshiping Israhell and the antichrist Jews, and for letting this EVIL overtake this country and the world. I wish I had a nickel for all the ones who I tried to tell about all this evil, and they responded with "Well I don't have to worry about, I won't be here...I'm going to be raptured!" sheesh gag VOMIT.
p.s. the "abomination of desolation" may have also included the EAGLE STANDARDS the Romans brought into the Temple. Silly Christians in 301C churches often do the same, bringing in their eagle-topped gold-fringed US flags to set up on their altars, showing they are conquered by the antichrist US govt. aaaackkk.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
you must be born again (John 3:3). God loves you, and if you have not done so, sincerely admit that you are a sinner; believe that Jesus is the virgin-born, sinless Son of God who died for the sins of the world, was buried, and raised from the dead; ask Him to forgive your sins, cleanse you, come into your heart and be your Saviour; then tell someone that you have done this.
that's about the only thing i agree with.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Ephesians 2:8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast
I just did a search a while ago and ran across this. I wish you would read:
"...Righteousness is connected to faith in God’s Word
The very first time the word righteousness occurs, it’s linked to belief in the Lord and the Word of God!
Genesis 15:6 And he (Abraham) believed in the LORD; and he (the LORD) counted it to him for righteousness.
The Apostle Paul confirms that belief in God’s Word is connected to righteousness.
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Jesus told the chief priests and the elders of the people:
Matthew 21:32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.
Jesus implied that the hated publicans and the harlots were more righteous than the chief priests and elders because they believed what John the Baptist had to say!
True righteousness in God’s eyes is having faith in Jesus Christ.
Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Who wouldn’t want to believe that Jesus Christ came to save sinners? Only people who are righteous in their own eyes and think they have no sin!
1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, andthe blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 ¶If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
People may think they are righteous because they either don’t know or they don’t believe what the Bible teaches.
Romans 3:10 As it is written (in the Bible), There is none righteous, no, not one:
1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us..."
John 3:15...that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.…
If it were not so, Jesus would have died a horrible death in vain.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speechhttp://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, TTMA, 4um (#4)
Since no one except God the Father knows when Jesus will return, I try to pay attention to His last words to us ~
The Great Commission: “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” Jesus gave this command to the apostles shortly before He ascended into heaven, and it essentially outlines what Jesus expected the apostles and those who followed them to do in His absence.
It is interesting that, in the original Greek, the only direct command in Matthew 28:19–20 is “make disciples.” The Great Commission instructs us to make disciples while we are going throughout the world. The instructions to “go,” “baptize,” and “teach” are indirect commands—participles in the original. How are we to make disciples? By baptizing them and teaching them all that Jesus commanded. “Make disciples” is the primary command of the Great Commission. “Going,” “baptizing,” and “teaching” are the means by which we fulfill the command to “make disciples.”
“ On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. ” ~ H. L. Mencken
I've not made my beliefs much of a secret here, but I guess I would make a point by asking if there's much difference in questioning the narrative governments give us than we would questioning the narratives religious entities give us.
So much trust is put into ancient writings as though they are flawlessly divine. And yet I suggest the same motives for controlling public opinion today by the likes of Fauci & govs, MSM, big pharma corps, and medical institutions most certainly existed in ancient times as those people were just as human as people today are.
So we are saved depending on what we "believe"? But what does it mean to believe? I say it's not a binary condition, either 100% believing or 100% not believing. That's a very simplistic way to describe the myriads of neurological activations going on in any functioning brain at one time. In reality, "belief" is a very gray area. People believe things a little bit or a lot, but in the human condition, believing things completely, whether it be in Jesus, the rapture or conversely in atheism, is very subjective and uncertain.
I'm of the opinion that God is not so petty as to judge the eternal soul based on what is in reality just academic knowledge which is what people of all major faiths effectively maintain. Even ordinary parents would not condemn their child to death for failing a final mathematics exam, and yet we're to believe God would easily do so over a theology final? That doesn't sit right with me. Could it be I have too much faith in God?
The spiritual world painted by Michael Newton simply makes more sense in this regard. What happens on earth isn't all that important, in of itself. This is a testing ground. It's a place to learn. Earth doesn't exist for God's benefit, but for our own. We could nuke ourselves into oblivion and it wouldn't change God's plans one bit. That's how I see it. It relieves us of concerns about a new world order, population reduction or any and every action of injustice. Not that those things are completely unimportant. We should work against those things. But it's not in any way anything that would dampen God's mood. Earth could be wiped out in some intergalactic event. It would be a disaster for humans, but in spiritual terms, it would mean little to nothing. Things would just restart on some other planet elsewhere in the cosmos.
I see the rapture as fiction. And the last 2000 years have, so far, supported that assertion. That's how I see it.
I don’t think I need to worry about confessing my sins to God or even apologizing. Because God isn’t going to ask me what I was thinking or what I was doing, he knows all that. The question he will have for me, is “What did you learn?”
Those are the answers that will mean the difference between salvation and damnation and even then, I’m not entirely concerned as this life that i am living isn’t the one I imagined for myself. Hell I don’t even know that I was a willing participant. What I do know is that for all my machinations, the only thing I can count on is that no matter what I am here because God willed it, I am part of the plan, and no matter what I will never know the reasons why. I am merely here to observe, learn, and participate.
For all I know, I am here to provide comedy, or be a cautionary tale for those who thought they were geniuses. Don’t let this happen to you kind of a thing.
"Call Me Ishmael" -Ishmael, A character from the book "Moby Dick" 1851. "Call Me Fishmeal" -Osama Bin Laden, A character created by the CIA, and the world's Hide And Seek Champion 2001-2011. -Tommythemadartist
If anyone WERE to be raptured, which they are not (rapture is a zionist hoax to disarm silly Christians)
The rapture is simply part of the resurrection that all Christians are waiting for. Without the rapture, the resurrected Christian would be stuck six feet underground, alive but wondering how to get out of the grave.
imo, American Christians for the most part would be the last ones to deserve it, for listening to all these false prophets, and worshiping Israhell and the antichrist Jews, and for letting this EVIL overtake this country and the world.
You make an excellent point here and I can't disagree with your conclusion...we have failed miserably. However, (if I can borrow from Will Munny) deserve's got nothing to do with it. If we got what we deserved no one would be raised from the dead.
I'm going to post a link at the bottom that sums up what I've discovered to be true, which aligns with what AllTheKings'Horses states. It's got links to so much as well, stuff that I've independently discovered over 40 years of self-study after having rejected the Zionist constructed model what we're living in. I came from a firm Fundie pro-Zio background and ended up rejecting it all because too much of what was taught did not add up.
It's also incredibly important to remember, that we live in a sea of lies, society awash in falseshoods, at every angle. The largely apostate "christian church" today, replete with its church buildings and pastors, is little more than what the Synagogue and Rabbis were in Jesus' day. Jesus' words in Luke 18:8 resonate in that way in no small manner.
Someone here years ago told me that they never discuss economic issues unless the person with whom they are discussing has read G. Edward Griffin's The Creature From Jekyl Island, and understands that subject material.
So too, when discussing things like the Holocost(R), I refuse to progress the conversation with anyone until they first resolve the following elementary school math exercise;
How does one take fewer than 1M (Jews living in pre-WWII Germany), or even fewer than 3M (Jews living in all of Nazi-occupied Europe prior/during to WWII (choice involved there), then subtract 6M, and end up with over 5M? In essence, reconcile the following ... 1-6=5 or 3-6=5.
To date I haven't had anyone proceed in the discussion, they immediately shut down, which tells me that they're not really interested in the truth and there's no need to waste my time. They're demoralized. The demoralization process eliminates any moral basis from the ideology/beliefs/world-view of a person. This is consistent with the Protocols of Zionism.
I find it to be similar with the so-called "rapture," purely a Zionist construct, as Scripture mentions only one additional coming of Christ other than his first visit, at which time Peter in 2 Peter 3 makes it perfectly clear what happens to this earth subsequent to that. In short, it is destroyed, not set up for any additional reign of anyone, much less Christ.
Lod, you bring up a good occurrence, you mentioned Christ's Ascension. But the question is what happened after his ascension?
He was crucified/killed, was resurrected, and THEN after more time on this earth, ascended. To where? To heaven, to sit on his throne at the right hand of God. That's where he is and where he'll stay until the final judgement at which time he will render it. He has reigned from there since his Ascension and continues to do so. Otherwise, there is nothing further for him to do. He stated plainly, "It is finished."
He also stated plainly that his Kingdom was not an earthly one. That also means that it wouldn't be in the future. He also stated when he was here, that his kingdom is upon us. Paul took it further by stating that we individually make up this new Temple, which was rebuilt in three days, the days it took for him from crucification to resurrection, at which time that temple was established. As ATKHs stated, Paul tells us that the temple IS his followers. Buildings, walls, stadium seating, bookstores, much less Israelie or American flags are not required. LOL
The time from Ezra and the last temple, 457 B.C., to the time of Christ explains clearly Daniel's 70 weeks.
As ATKHs states, all the other stuff has already occurred. The Abomination of Desolations was fulfilled per Matt. 23:38 when Jesus declared their (the Rabbis') house desolate. AKA, Jesus was the one who "made desolate."
The formal church today, fed by the manmade institutions controlled by the Zios called seminaries, is apostate. The article at the link will save me much time in explaining that.
The pastors of today, fueled by mammon I might add, are little different than the Rabbis of old. The Catholic "church" almost an exact carbon- copy and overlay of Rabbinic/Talmudic Judaism and for sure a component of it, robes, liturgy, rote and all. Again, see the link.
The entire thing is an industry that's fueled by mammon. Food for thought.
Today's pastors preach about how Christ will come again to destroy, rule, conquer, etc., much as the Rabbi's preached, completely missing the spiritual elements involved. So too is modern formalized "christianity."
I'm in a constant struggle with my kids to try to explain how the modern church has been coopted.
And BTW, there is no individual "antichrist" mentioned in the NT. Only a singular mention of the "man of sin/lawlessness," who is the devil himself. 2 Thes. 2 explains this. He takes his seat in "the temple," or amongst the true church, again, amongst, since most of the organized institutions are more manmade than God made constructs.
In like manner, the word "millenium" does not appear anywhere. Only "thousand years" does, a period of which we are at the end of, before Rev. 20:7-9 comes to pass, and I believe that we are now actively seeing that. Just look at all of the satanistic activity bubbling up. It's an incredibly exciting time to be alive. "Thousand years" only appears four times, all in early Rev. 20, a purely metaphorical book after the first couple of chapters. But Peter explains the duration of this "thousand years" in 2 Pet. 3:8.
Anyway, here's that link which reveals how we got to this point in modern history, it will resonate with everyone here to at least some extent. The links off of it from what I've seen are excellent as well. Someone pointed this out to me just a few weeks ago in a Substack comment.
BTW, this explains what is going on today and why we will not break free from it here on earth.
As I explain to people, in order to do so, we must first rid ourselves of and expunge the existing financial system which is 100% both owned and controlled by them. Everyone regularly coming here knows this.
BUT, this includes our own financial "idols" if you will. We cannot expunge the existing system, but keep the ill-gotten fruits of its currencies. Yet, THIS is what prevents us from doing so.
Ergo, one must question which we worship more, Mammon, or God.
What was the very first commandment for people that told Jesus that they wanted to follow him? It was to give away everything that they had, ... and follow him.
Per that article link, today's system, as the core of the modern Demoralization effort as referenced by Yuri Bezmenov in his '84 interview with G. Edward Griffin, is the elimination of God from our world. That was the focus by the Bolsheviks, one in the same as the core perps, in Eastern Europe and Russia before WWII in the case of the latter, and both after WWII.
That is why the "establishment" pays its gatekeepers so well, and why the governments are little more than jobs programs thru which to launder their Central Banking currencies. It's also why doctors (Rockefeller medical industry), lawyers (the Jewish "justice" system), bankers and financial types, etc., are the best paid people in the world generally speaking. i.e., they get their reward for propping up the charade.
But so too us, that invest in their mechanisms; Wall Street/Stock- market(s), investing in the largest corporations/funds, etc. Everything in our world is done for mammon for the most part.
If we don't want them in control, then we need to relinquish that, but so few understand that because they do not understand A, even who their enemy is, much less B, how that enemy operates as such. How can one win a war against an enemy like that, without even understanding its tactics and overall strategy. It cannot.
I often tell people that we're screwed. That if people cannot see the visible, 9-11, for what it was, then how on earth will it see the invisible, namely PSYOP19. The vast majority of people that realize we're being screwed on the latter, also believe that 9-11 was according to the narrative, or some semblance of it anyway. The fact that the owner of 7 told us directly that they made the decision to bring it down, eludes them. It's mindboggling.
BTW, when Jesus stated that it was easier for a camel to go thru the eye of a needle than it was for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven, which was then forming right there on earth, what he meant was that it is impossible. That the worship of mammon will prevent a person from worshiping God.
Hence the placement of a Mammon-oriented society in accordance with the info in that link, as the foundation of our demoralization.