See other Immigration Articles
Title: White Supremacists Ratchet Up Anti-Hispanic Action As U.S. Immigration Debate Rages
Source:
www.adl.org
URL Source: http://www.adl.org/NR/exeres/ADD448 ... 42E-450D-BC84-593F18F67683.htm
Published: May 24, 2006
Author: Abe
Post Date: 2006-05-26 17:45:08 by Mind_Virus
Keywords: None
Views: 509
Comments: 100
White Supremacists Ratchet Up Anti-Hispanic Action As U.S. Immigration Debate Rages New York, NY, May 24, 2006 … As the national debate over immigration continues to hold the national spotlight, neo-Nazis and white supremacists have ratcheted up their anti-Hispanic action, using everything from Internet video games to street demonstrations and other confrontational tactics in an effort to exploit the debate as a means to spread hate. Their goal is to draw new attention to their hateful notions about minorities and hopes for making America a nation for "Whites only." The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which monitors and reports on the activities of far-right extremists, has updated its online report, "Extremists Declare 'Open Season' on Immigrants" with new information showing that extremists continue to focus their energies on Hispanic hate-mongering through racist rhetoric, crude stereotypes, and threats of using violence to intimidate illegal immigrants. "As we have gotten deeper into the discussion on immigration, the white supremacist movement has reinvigorated itself and closed ranks around the cause of fighting immigration and turning America into a nation for 'Whites only'", said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "The immigration debate has provided the perfect storm for America's white supremacist fringe to recruit, organize and sow the seeds of racial discord and hate." On the Internet, right-wing extremists have championed video games such as "Border Patrol," where the aim is to shoot to kill Mexicans as they attempt to cross the border, and used their Web sites to spread hateful anti-Hispanic messages. In the real world, white supremacist leaders have organized protests and encouraged their followers to act violently against immigrants or anyone of Hispanic origin. Anti-Hispanic Violence ADL's report cites two recent incidents as the latest in a multi-year trend of increasing violence targeting Hispanics: •A teenager was arrested in East Hampton, Long Island, on April 29 after he allegedly threatened a Hispanic teenager with a machete and chased a second teenager with a chain saw while shouting racial epithets. Described by classmates as a skinhead, the alleged perpetrator had posted to the Internet photographs of himself posing as a Nazi and adorning a shed with swastikas. •David Henry Tuck, 18, and Keith Robert Turner, 17, were arrested and charged with aggravated sexual assault in the brutal April 22 attack of a teenage Hispanic high school student in Houston. The victim was beaten and sodomized with a plastic pipe from a patio umbrella, then kicked in the head with steel-toed boots. White Supremacist Protests In recent weeks, white supremacists have organized protests, rallies and other events across the country: •In Seattle, Washington, and Las Vegas, Nevada, members of the neo-Nazi National Vanguard held anti-immigration protests on May 20. On its Web site, the National Vanguard declared that day to be a "day of protest against George W. Bush's plan to destroy America," calling the president's immigration proposals a "sellout of the nation." •In Keene, New Hampshire, New England members of the Arkansas-based neo-Nazi group White Revolution held a self-described "anti-invasion" demonstration on May 7 to protest "the invasion of America by illegal non white hordes.' •In Russellville, Alabama, members of the Alabama chapter of the Indiana-based National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan held an anti-immigration rally on May 6, yelling "Let's get rid of the Mexicans!" After the rally, the Klansmen burned a cross in a field outside of town. •In Montgomery, Alabama, the neo-Confederate group League of the South and the Coalition against Illegal Immigration together organized an anti-immigration "Cinco de Mayo" demonstration on May 5. The event was promoted in the racist and anti-Semitic newspaper, "First Freedom." •In Greenville, South Carolina, the racist Council of Conservative Citizens held an anti-immigration demonstration on April 29 in front of the offices of Republican Congressman Lindsey Graham, where they burned Mexican flags and displayed signs such as "More INS, Less IRS," "Vote for Pedro to Go Home," and "I Didn't Fight in Iraq for Illegal Aliens."
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
Comments (1-40) not displayed.
.
.
.
#41. To: Diana (#16)
I agree, Diana. I have nothing against the other peoples, but I don't see why white people are not supposed to be proud of our European backgrounds and our history and traditions. We're "ethnic" too. I think these liberal folks just don't understand that most people prefer people who are like them. That's not the same as hating other people. This same trait can be seen in blacks, Asians, various Hispanic groups as well as whites. People like what they can relate to and feel comfortable with. The various white groups of immigrants had problems relating to the people already here as well until they started speaking English and pretty much adopted the dominant culture. I think that's going to be true for other groups as well. For example, if black Americans dropped the whole violent gangsta culture and started acting more like white Americans, they'd do much better as a community and they'd actually become assimilated at a higher rate. It does no good to beat people over the head about being racist. People prefer their own group and tend to fear or be suspicious of groups that are dissimilar. That's human nature.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
That's called murder when it happens and we have laws to deal with it, althought we also have laws prohibiting illegal entry which don't seem to be enforced.
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
Mike, I don't want to shoot brown people (or any people unless they're from the gubmint :) but I hate the sound of Spanish too. It gets on my nerves. I live in a highly Hispanic neighborhood (because of cheaper rent) and it drives me crazy. I don't hate them, but I would not voluntarily want to live with them either. Some people might feel that way about the French or the Russians or the Chinese. We all have preferences.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
I don't believe you for a second. Can you site to us even one source demonstrating that anyone in the Minuteman organization feels this way? Because I don't think it's true. I think it's that reprobate mind that can't think straight.
Incorrect about what? Being the largest religion does not give Christianity currency to push around people who are not of that faith or who don't want religion. The Constitution protects minority religions and people without religions against the whims and caprice of people of the largest faith in the United States. If you do not understand that, you do not comprehend the Constitution and what it is all about. You are welcome to stop the religious baiting too, as you are not going to ever put me on the defensive with it. If anything such nonsense beliles you, not me. I am merely amused by such tactics, nothing more.
I feel like I have the right to live in the culture I was raised in. Maybe not an aboslute right, but at very least one of the reasons I put up with government is to secure that continuity.
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
Make up your mind. First you ask, then you dismiss out of turn any desire to listen to an answer with your ad homenim attack.
I understand that and I agree with you. I don't understand why were are being forced to live with people that we never agreed to. That seems very basic to me - most people want to live in the culture they grew up in or are most comfortable with. I'm not going to pass judgement on whether any culture is better - it's what people know and want. That's human nature.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
I have to run and do some things, but this has been an interesting give and take so far other then where it wonders into personal attacks. I'll be back soon enough to respond, but I would prefer the emotions be harnessed to the purpose of promoting argument and lively discussion. Personal attacks are not productive and do not promote the process of give and take on the issue at all. ;-)
But our government was never given permission to alter the fundemental structure of society at large. I can't recall one time the issue of milticulturalism was on the ballot, excepy maybe prop 1(?)87, which was overwhelmingly approved but struck down by the court(e)s.
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
I think it was Jesse Jackson that said there is a problem when I am walking down a dark street in New York, and I hear footsteps behind me, and I am relieved when I turn around and see that I am being followed by a white person.
.
I agree, Mike, but I think personal attacks become somewhat inevitable as people get angry about topics that are very close to them emotionally and perhaps in terms of where and how they live. For example, folks living on the border might find it hard to discuss things in a dispassionate way as they live with the problem every day. But c'mon back and we'll all get out the kevlar. :)
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
wonders=wanders
I'm getting hammered on cognac, so please understand that anything I may say later should not be taken too seriously.
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
I remember that, and yes, it is sad that someone should feel that way. We've had a few black men stand up and say there is something wrong in the black community, like Bill Cosby and recently a black conservative whose name I just can't recall. Unfortunately these gentlemen get pilloried when they speak the unpleasant truth. I live across the street from a funeral home that serves much of the black and hispanic communities for their young gang violence victims. Every few weeks (and sometimes it was more often than that) I could see hundreds of young black or hispanic people outside this home and I'd know there was a dead young person inside, usually male. And I think what a terrible waste this is, and how horrible and unproductive this whole violent gangsta/rap/welfare culture is. And now black people particularly are getting screwed over by illegal immigration as they can't even get those jobs any more. People have to develop higher standards. Since the 60s are standards in all areas of life have gotten lower and lower because of our fear of offending someone or "judging" someone until we got to this point where people have almost no standards at all except that of "feeling good" physically or emotionally. You can't build a community on that.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
I don't like hearing spanish either. but I hear it all the time. and I wish I understood it and spoke it. I live in phoenix. today I'm taking two people out to the chinese buffet. and both people are ethnic mexican though they were born in arizona, they are american, but the dividers among us insist we call them mexican, when I'm over at their house they may speak spanish with their neighbors & friends, some of whom are recent illegal immigrants. I'll be the only non-spanish speaker in the whole group. and these two people whom I'll take to the chinese buffet are unemployed which would not be the case if it weren't for the invasion from the south. the reason that I have it in my heart to do this type of thing on a regular basis is because I have received a gift. through long-suffering and faith and praise the god who made us, the one who is the beginning and the end and created all, has given to me a gift that I will do this and be happy that I do. but the ferret who worships mother earth has received a different gift for his systematic and willful rejection of god. He has received a reprobate mind. and he believes that people of christian faith are hate-mongers and racists. this is his gift - utter confusion, stupefying warped nonsense rolls out of his mouth. praise the lord! for he is the one who made us and will usher us into the kingdom of heaven! Nothing that is truly good has been made by man. Man has been allowed to rule here on earth only so that man will be discredited. Look around, the discrediting is in progress. we cannot rule ourselves. We must turn to god. the people will be divided. choose life, do not choose death. it will be your choice. Your conscience will show you this choice and you will be able to make it. Unlike what ferret mike says the first ammendment does not give us free choice. It is god who gave us free will and free choice and allows us to choose. do not choose to reject god, you'll get a reprobate mind as a reward. not a good deal.
I have often thought this, Red, especially when I'm walking around in nature. I often think that there's nothing man has created with his great mental gifts which matches the beauty and elegance and simplicity and sustainability and balance that God has given us. And we don't appreciate it, which is the shame of it. We think our minds are our greatest gift, but so many evil people have had great minds. The heart is the more important organ.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
LOL!
Personal attacks are the only way to get through to bots, to throw them off their schedule. Posting page after page after page after page after page of facts has no effect, you have to jar them into going off script. Diana has indicated that she thinks this behavior is tasteless and/or juvenile, maybe both, but I maintain that it is a public service as well as a free form of recreation.
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
ferret - Make up your mind. First you ask, then you dismiss out of turn any desire to listen to an answer with your ad homenim attack. OK Ferret - you lied when you said that the minutemen were racists who want to kill the brown-skinned people. your latest argument is that you won't provide evidence that the minutemen are racist because I doubt that it is true. like I said, a reprobate mind. unable to think logically. you used the phrase 'out of turn' to describe my comments. I don't know whether you've noticed or not (given your reprobate mind), but on this forum you can take a turn and comment and I can take a turn and comment. Therefore, when I comment I am not 'out of turn'. your 'out of turn' characterization is non-sensical, it stems from a reprobate mind, and if you read Romans 1:28 you'll see where that reprobate mind comes from. another exampel of the reprobate feature - you can't provide proof because I doubt you. that is pure nonsense. and you said that I had no desire to listen to your response. But I am the one that asked you to show this evidence. and you are saying you won't provide it because I don't want to listen. pure insanity of a reprobate mind.
interesting list of lyrics there on that page :P
This is an ad homenim attack. You misrepresent my words; I said there are elements - people in the Minutemen nothing better then this. organization - who would love nothing better then to do this. I did not say "the Minutemen." I have seen many snide blood thirsty comments at LP, FR and other places talking of piranhas in the Rio Grand, shooting people as they climbed fences and other poor choices of advocacy for the issue to curtail the influx of people from Mexico. And people from racist circles are coached to mask their intent and bigotry to bypass any screening the well intentioned and honest people in that organization have installed. This is why I said earlier I would feel much better about an independent audit of members and screening of potential Minutemen. I submit that if the best you can do is try to put me on the defensive with the skewing of my words and by trying to insult me, then there is flatly not much to your arguments. You need to do better then this.
Done this sort of posting over ten years Dak, it doesn't do more then discredit the insulter and show they have a lack of substance to their arguments or ability to articulate them. I don't sweat the small stuff like personal attacks as they hurt the insulter not the target. Your rationalization of this is silly at best, you also need to do far better then this to get anywhere to further your end of this issue.
And sitting in a tree makes you a fucking genius?
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
I took a "temporary" job out in the woods after graduating the UO, and stayed as I prefer working outdoors and enjoyed the work. Illegal immigrants who were cheaper to hire and easier to push around then people like myself who have a stake in the community pushed people like me out of that line of work. But as I recognized that these decent, hard working people were there out of desperation for a decent future for themselves and their families, I have never bore them any ill will. In fact, many of them are my good friends. Instead, I have focused my criticism on those who exploit and entice to make more money. Many in the inti-immigration movement are too frightened and intimidated by the political and economic power of the business leaders who have formulated and executed this policy of pitting one group of people against another to accrue even more wealth and political power so they pick on the easier target they can find; the immigrants themselves. They do not see that the pimps in all this already expected this lack of guts to put people on the trail of the job whores they have put to work to rub out the middle class and destroy the economic well being of people not quite in the middle class. The anti-immigration movement needs to grow up and see that they are not going to get anywhere unless they grit their teeth and get bloody fighting the originators of this demographic influx. And that involves more then merely taking on the lowest element of this faction - the people doing the direct hiring of immigrants - as a cover and excuse to claim that they indeed are doing this. I know this issue well as it effected me directly starting in the 1980s. I know who the problem is here, and know that going after them is the only way this problem will be effectively dealt with.
You are a filthy, snot covered liar. :)
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
Heh, the libido is what makes people fuck, not the intellect, and sitting in a tree long enough is probably good enough to make one a branch manager, not smarter. ;-D
And you are under the delusion that your minor and pedestrian insults do more then make you look silly. So? ;-D
I always hated The Monkees, so they never made me a branch manager.
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
That made you a moron potential H-Bomb
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
What does? Explain.
Hell no, I'm a lazy sod.
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
Hey, you should know.
I love you.
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
Are you Herbert?
Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!
And your point? Besides probably not knowing I do not support abortion that is.
Are you?
I hope that cognac tastes good. drink one for me, sip it slowly because that's the way I like it. water chasers are good. I hope you're drinking it on the rocks with no mixer or water added because that is how it should be consumed. it'll make you sleep real good and be numb to the evil of this world. when I consume it, that is my desired effect. hope it works for you.
Comments (81 - 100) not displayed.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
#42. To: Ferret Mike (#40)
#43. To: Ferret Mike (#40)
#44. To: Ferret Mike (#40)
There are people in the Minutemen who want to shoot border crossers on sight and hate brown skin and the sound of Spanish irrationally as this sentiment emanates from America's dark history of adherence to the Doctrine of Discovery and adherence to the notions of Manifest Destiny
#45. To: Red Jones (#39)
"because laws say it is legal to not be Christian, therefore the majority of Americans who say they are Christian are incorrect? Is that your logic?"
"Dak said that this was a predominantly Christian nation. and you said that it is not. and then as evidence you sited the first amendment law that says we're free to speak and worship as we please."
#46. To: mehitable (#43)
Some people might feel that way about the French or the Russians or the Chinese. We all have preferences.
#47. To: Red Jones (#44)
"I don't believe you for a second. Can you site to us even one source demonstrating that anyone in the Minuteman organization feels this way? Because I don't think it's true. I think it's that reprobate mind that can't think straight."
#48. To: Dakmar (#46)
#49. To: Ferret Mike (#45)
Being the largest religion does not give Christianity currency to push around people who are not of that faith or who don't want religion.
#50. To: mehitable (#41)
#51. To: Ferret Mike (#45)
The Constitution protects minority religions and people without religions against the whims and caprice of people of the largest faith in the United States. If you do not understand that, you do not comprehend the Constitution and what it is all about.
#52. To: mehitable (#48)
#53. To: Ferret Mike (#50)
#54. To: All (#50)
#55. To: Ferret Mike (#50)
I'll be back soon enough to respond, but I would prefer the emotions be harnessed
#56. To: ... (#52)
#57. To: mehitable, ferret Mike, dakmar (#43)
#58. To: Red Jones (#57)
Nothing that is truly good has been made by man. Man has been allowed to rule here on earth only so that man will be discredited. Look around, the discrediting is in progress. we cannot rule ourselves. We must turn to god.
#59. To: Dakmar (#55)
I'm getting hammered on cognac, so please understand that anything I may say later should not be taken too seriously.
#60. To: mehitable, Diana (#53)
I think personal attacks become somewhat inevitable as people get angry about topics that are very close to them emotionally and perhaps in terms of where and how they live.
#61. To: Zipporah (#59)
#62. To: Ferret Mike (#47)
red - "I don't believe you for a second. Can you site to us even one source demonstrating that anyone in the Minuteman organization feels this way? Because I don't think it's true. I think it's that reprobate mind that can't think straight."
#63. To: Dakmar (#61)
#64. To: Red Jones (#62)
"OK Ferret - you lied when you said that the minutemen were racists who want to kill the brown-skinned people."
#65. To: Dakmar (#60)
"Personal attacks are the only way to get through to bots, to throw them off their schedule."
#66. To: Ferret Mike (#65)
#67. To: mehitable (#56)
#68. To: Ferret Mike (#65)
Done this sort of posting over ten years Dak, it doesn't do more then discredit the insulter and show they have a lack of substance to their arguments or ability to articulate them. I don't sweat the small stuff like personal attacks as they hurt the insulter not the target.
#69. To: Dakmar (#66)
"And sitting in a tree makes you a fucking genius?"
#70. To: Dakmar (#68)
"You are a filthy, snot covered liar."
#71. To: Ferret Mike (#69)
#72. To: Ferret Mike (#70)
And you are under the delusion that your minor and pedestrian insults do more then make you look silly. So? ;-D
#73. To: Dakmar (#72)
"That made you a moron"
#74. To: Ferret Mike (#73)
Explain
#75. To: Dakmar (#74)
"Hell no, I'm a lazy sod."
#76. To: Ferret Mike (#75)
She was a girl from birmingham
She just had an abortion
She was a case of insanity
Her name was pauline she lived in a tree
She was a no one who killed her baby
She sent her letters from the country
She was an animal she was a bloody disgrase
Body Im not an animal
Body Im not an animal
Dragged on a table in factory
Illegitimate place to be
In a packet in a lavatory
Die little baby screaming fucking bloody mess
Its not an animal its an abortion
Body Im not animal
Mummy Im not an abortion
Throbbing squirm, gurgling bloody mess
Im not an discharge, Im not a loss in
Protein, Im not a throbbing squirm
Fuck this and fuck that fuck it all and
Fuck the fucking brat
She dont wanna baby that looks like that
I dont wanna baby that looks like that
Body Im not an animal
Body Im not an abortion
Body Im not an animal
An animal
Im not an animal...
Im not an abortion...
Mummy! ugh!
#77. To: Ferret Mike (#75)
#78. To: Dakmar (#76)
#79. To: Dakmar (#77)
"Are you Herbert?"
#80. To: Dakmar (#76)
.
.
.