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Title: H.R. 4752: Universal National Service Act of 2006 (Feb 2006)
Source: www.govtrack.us
URL Source: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h109-4752
Published: May 27, 2006
Author: 109th Congress
Post Date: 2006-05-27 13:22:08 by robin
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Views: 526
Comments: 65

109th U.S. Congress (2005-2006)

H.R. 4752: Universal National Service Act of 2006
Introduced:Feb 14, 2006
Sponsor:Rep. Charles Rangel [D-NY]
Status:Introduced (By Rep. Charles Rangel [D-NY])

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109TH CONGRESS
H. R. 4752
2D SESSION


To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United
States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform
a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance
of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.




IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
FEBRUARY 14, 2006
Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the
Committee on Armed Services




A BILL
To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons
in the United States, including women, between the ages
of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service
or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the na-
tional defense and homeland security, and for other pur-
poses.

1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa-
2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
3 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

4 (a) SHORT TITLE.--This Act may be cited as the
5 ``Universal National Service Act of 2006''.
2
1 (b) TABLE CONTENTS.--The table of contents for
OF

2 this Act is as follows:
Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.
Sec. 2. National service obligation.
Sec. 3. Two-year period of national service.
Sec. 4. Implementation by the President.
Sec. 5. Induction.
Sec. 6. Deferments and postponements.
Sec. 7. Induction exemptions.
Sec. 8. Conscientious objection.
Sec. 9. Discharge following national service.
Sec. 10. Registration of females under the Military Selective Service Act.
Sec. 11. Relation of Act to registration and induction authority of military se-
lective service Act.
Sec. 12. Definitions.

3 SEC. 2. NATIONAL SERVICE OBLIGATION.

4 (a) OBLIGATION SERVICE.--It is the obligation
FOR

5 of every citizen of the United States, and every other per-
6 son residing in the United States, who is between the ages
7 of 18 and 42 to perform a period of national service as
8 prescribed in this Act unless exempted under the provi-
9 sions of this Act.
10 (b) FORM NATIONAL SERVICE.--National service
OF

11 under this Act shall be performed either--
12 (1) as a member of an active or reserve compo-
13 nent of the uniformed services; or
14 (2) in a civilian capacity that, as determined by
15 the President, promotes the national defense, includ-
16 ing national or community service and homeland se-
17 curity.




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1 (c) INDUCTION REQUIREMENTS.--The President
2 shall provide for the induction of persons covered by sub-
3 section (a) to perform national service under this Act.
4 (d) SELECTION MILITARY SERVICE.--Based
FOR

5 upon the needs of the uniformed services, the President
6 shall--
7 (1) determine the number of persons covered by
8 subsection (a) whose service is to be performed as a
9 member of an active or reserve component of the
10 uniformed services; and
11 (2) select the individuals among those persons
12 who are to be inducted for military service under
13 this Act.
14 (e) CIVILIAN SERVICE.--Persons covered by sub-
15 section (a) who are not selected for military service under
16 subsection (d) shall perform their national service obliga-
17 tion under this Act in a civilian capacity pursuant to sub-
18 section (b)(2).
19 SEC. 3. TWO-YEAR PERIOD OF NATIONAL SERVICE.

20 (a) GENERAL RULE.--Except as otherwise provided
21 in this section, the period of national service performed
22 by a person under this Act shall be two years.
23 (b) GROUNDS EXTENSION.--At the discretion of
FOR

24 the President, the period of military service for a member




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1 of the uniformed services under this Act may be ex-
2 tended--
3 (1) with the consent of the member, for the
4 purpose of furnishing hospitalization, medical, or
5 surgical care for injury or illness incurred in line of
6 duty; or
7 (2) for the purpose of requiring the member to
8 compensate for any time lost to training for any
9 cause.
10 (c) EARLY TERMINATION.--The period of national
11 service for a person under this Act shall be terminated
12 before the end of such period under the following cir-
13 cumstances:
14 (1) The voluntary enlistment and active service
15 of the person in an active or reserve component of
16 the uniformed services for a period of at least two
17 years, in which case the period of basic military
18 training and education actually served by the person
19 shall be counted toward the term of enlistment.
20 (2) The admission and service of the person as
21 a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military
22 Academy, the United States Naval Academy, the
23 United States Air Force Academy, the Coast Guard
24 Academy, or the United States Merchant Marine
25 Academy.


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1 (3) The enrollment and service of the person in
2 an officer candidate program, if the person has
3 signed an agreement to accept a Reserve commission
4 in the appropriate service with an obligation to serve
5 on active duty if such a commission is offered upon
6 completion of the program.
7 (4) Such other grounds as the President may
8 establish.
9 SEC. 4. IMPLEMENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT.

10 (a) IN GENERAL.--The President shall prescribe
11 such regulations as are necessary to carry out this Act.
12 (b) MATTER BE COVERED REGULATIONS.--
TO BY

13 Such regulations shall include specification of the fol-
14 lowing:
15 (1) The types of civilian service that may be
16 performed for a person's national service obligation
17 under this Act.
18 (2) Standards for satisfactory performance of
19 civilian service and of penalties for failure to per-
20 form civilian service satisfactorily.
21 (3) The manner in which persons shall be se-
22 lected for induction under this Act, including the
23 manner in which those selected will be notified of
24 such selection.




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1 (4) All other administrative matters in connec-
2 tion with the induction of persons under this Act
3 and the registration, examination, and classification
4 of such persons.
5 (5) A means to determine questions or claims
6 with respect to inclusion for, or exemption or
7 deferment from induction under this Act, including
8 questions of conscientious objection.
9 (6) Standards for compensation and benefits
10 for persons performing their national service obliga-
11 tion under this Act through civilian service.
12 (7) Such other matters as the President deter-
13 mines necessary to carry out this Act.
14 (c) USE PRIOR ACT.--To the extent determined
OF

15 appropriate by the President, the President may use for
16 purposes of this Act the procedures provided in the Mili-
17 tary Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.),
18 including procedures for registration, selection, and induc-
19 tion.
20 SEC. 5. INDUCTION.

21 (a) IN GENERAL.--Every person subject to induction
22 for national service under this Act, except those whose
23 training is deferred or postponed in accordance with this
24 Act, shall be called and inducted by the President for such
25 service at the time and place specified by the President.


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1 (b) AGE LIMITS.--A person may be inducted under
2 this Act only if the person has attained the age of 18 and
3 has not attained the age of 42.
4 (c) VOLUNTARY INDUCTION.--A person subject to in-
5 duction under this Act may volunteer for induction at a
6 time other than the time at which the person is otherwise
7 called for induction.
8 (d) EXAMINATION; CLASSIFICATION.--Every person
9 subject to induction under this Act shall, before induction,
10 be physically and mentally examined and shall be classified
11 as to fitness to perform national service. The President
12 may apply different classification standards for fitness for
13 military service and fitness for civilian service.
14 SEC. 6. DEFERMENTS AND POSTPONEMENTS.

15 (a) HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.--A person who is pur-
16 suing a standard course of study, on a full-time basis, in
17 a secondary school or similar institution of learning shall
18 be entitled to have induction under this Act postponed
19 until the person--
20 (1) obtains a high school diploma;
21 (2) ceases to pursue satisfactorily such course
22 of study; or
23 (3) attains the age of 20.
24 (b) HARDSHIP DISABILITY.--Deferments from
AND

25 national service under this Act may be made for--


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1 (1) extreme hardship; or
2 (2) physical or mental disability.
3 (c) TRAINING CAPACITY.--The President may post-
4 pone or suspend the induction of persons for military serv-
5 ice under this Act as necessary to limit the number of per-
6 sons receiving basic military training and education to the
7 maximum number that can be adequately trained.
8 (d) TERMINATION.--No deferment or postponement
9 of induction under this Act shall continue after the cause
10 of such deferment or postponement ceases.
11 SEC. 7. INDUCTION EXEMPTIONS.

12 (a) QUALIFICATIONS.--No person may be inducted
13 for military service under this Act unless the person is
14 acceptable to the Secretary concerned for training and
15 meets the same health and physical qualifications applica-
16 ble under section 505 of title 10, United States Code, to
17 persons seeking original enlistment in a regular compo-
18 nent of the Armed Forces.
19 (b) OTHER MILITARY SERVICE.--No person shall be
20 liable for induction under this Act who--
21 (1) is serving, or has served honorably for at
22 least six months, in any component of the uniformed
23 services on active duty; or
24 (2) is or becomes a cadet or midshipman at the
25 United States Military Academy, the United States


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1 Naval Academy, the United States Air Force Acad-
2 emy, the Coast Guard Academy, the United States
3 Merchant Marine Academy, a midshipman of a Navy
4 accredited State maritime academy, a member of the
5 Senior Reserve Officers' Training Corps, or the
6 naval aviation college program, so long as that per-
7 son satisfactorily continues in and completes at least
8 two years training therein.
9 SEC. 8. CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION.

10 (a) CLAIMS CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR.--Noth-
AS

11 ing in this Act shall be construed to require a person to
12 be subject to combatant training and service in the uni-
13 formed services, if that person, by reason of sincerely held
14 moral, ethical, or religious beliefs, is conscientiously op-
15 posed to participation in war in any form.
16 (b) ALTERNATIVE NONCOMBATANT CIVILIAN
OR

17 SERVICE.--A person who claims exemption from combat-
18 ant training and service under subsection (a) and whose
19 claim is sustained by the local board shall--
20 (1) be assigned to noncombatant service (as de-
21 fined by the President), if the person is inducted
22 into the uniformed services; or
23 (2) be ordered by the local board, if found to
24 be conscientiously opposed to participation in such
25 noncombatant service, to perform national civilian


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1 service for the period specified in section 3(a) and
2 subject to such regulations as the President may
3 prescribe.
4 SEC. 9. DISCHARGE FOLLOWING NATIONAL SERVICE.

5 (a) DISCHARGE.--Upon completion or termination of
6 the obligation to perform national service under this Act,
7 a person shall be discharged from the uniformed services
8 or from civilian service, as the case may be, and shall not
9 be subject to any further service under this Act.
10 (b) COORDINATION WITH OTHER AUTHORITIES.--
11 Nothing in this section shall limit or prohibit the call to
12 active service in the uniformed services of any person who
13 is a member of a regular or reserve component of the uni-
14 formed services.
15 SEC. 10. REGISTRATION OF FEMALES UNDER THE MILI-

16 TARY SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT.

17 (a) REGISTRATION REQUIRED.--Section 3(a) of the
18 Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. 453(a)) is
19 amended--
20 (1) by striking ``male'' both places it appears;
21 (2) by inserting ``or herself'' after ``himself'';
22 and
23 (3) by striking ``he'' and inserting ``the per-
24 son''.




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1 (b) CONFORMING AMENDMENT.--Section 16(a) of
2 the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 466(a))
3 is amended by striking ``men'' and inserting ``persons''.
4 SEC. 11. RELATION OF ACT TO REGISTRATION AND INDUC-

5 TION AUTHORITY OF MILITARY SELECTIVE

6 SERVICE ACT.

7 (a) REGISTRATION.--Section 4 of the Military Selec-
8 tive Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 454) is amended by in-
9 serting after subsection (g) the following new subsection:
10 ``(h) This section does not apply with respect to the
11 induction of persons into the Armed Forces pursuant to
12 the Universal National Service Act of 2006.''.
13 (b) INDUCTION.--Section 17(c) of the Military Selec-
14 tive Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 467(c)) is amended by
15 striking ``now or hereafter'' and all that follows through
16 the period at the end and inserting ``inducted pursuant
17 to the Universal National Service Act of 2006.''.
18 SEC. 12. DEFINITIONS.

19 In this Act:
20 (1) The term ``military service'' means service
21 performed as a member of an active or reserve com-
22 ponent of the uniformed services.
23 (2) The term ``Secretary concerned'' means the
24 Secretary of Defense with respect to the Army,
25 Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps, the Secretary


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1 of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast
2 Guard, the Secretary of Commerce, with respect to
3 matters concerning the National Oceanic and At-
4 mospheric Administration, and the Secretary of
5 Health and Human Services, with respect to matters
6 concerning the Public Health Service.
7 (3) The term ``United States'', when used in a
8 geographical sense, means the several States, the
9 District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Is-
10 lands, and Guam.
11 (4) The term ``uniformed services'' means the
12 Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard,
13 commissioned corps of the National Oceanic and At-
14 mospheric Administration, and commissioned corps
15 of the Public Health Service.





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#5. To: All (#3)

SEE "PERSON" AT LINK ABOVE

Sorry. Link:

http://gemworld.com/USAvsUS.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-05-27   14:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#4)

Well if World War III is coming, then goddamn, let's get the party started already. I hate this waiting around bullshit.

These Illuminati fags have GOT TO GO.

The best part about something like a world war, is a lot of these rich pricks will find that bombs do not discriminate in who's houses get destroyed.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-27   14:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#4)

...and famines and earthquakes...

"And ye shall hear of wars & rumors of wars...For nation shall rise against nation, & kingdom against kingdom:" (Matthew 24:7)

http://www.countdown.org/armageddon/war.htm

4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=24&version=31

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-27   14:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Neil McIver (#3)

http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/links2educate.htm

That's an interesting site.

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-27   14:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#7)

And the followers of Robertson/Robinson etc.. are trying to help this along.. maybe they should reread what happened to those who tried to help stop the ark of the covenant from falling from the wagon..when it was being returned to Israel from the Philistines .. 2 Samuel 6

6 When they came to the threshing floor of Nacon, Uzzah reached out and took hold of the ark of God, because the oxen stumbled. 7 The Lord's anger burned against Uzzah because of his irreverent act; therefore God struck him down and he died there beside the ark of God.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-27   14:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#9)

I don't think that story was ever told to me in that light, good one Zip.

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-27   14:41:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: robin (#0)

To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

Pardon my language, but fuck that. This isn't Nazi Germany or Israel.

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-05-27   14:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: bluegrass (#11)

Israel

That nation's draft policies did cross my mind.

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-27   14:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin (#10)

God does things in His time and according to His plan.. and those that try to bring about the rapture, Armeggedon or whatever.. they act as if they speak for God and have an 'in' with God.. and so they're going to give him 'help'.. pride cometh before a fall.. no fear of God they look at God as some 'pal' of theirs.. the act as if He's someone to do their bidding..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-27   14:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Zipporah, Robin (#9)

Here's another good one:

Rebuilding the Jewish Temple, now and in 363 A.D.

[great balls of fire!]

http://www.bibleprobe.c om/rebuildingthetemple.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-05-27   23:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

This is because, according to Scripture -only after the Lord returns will the Jewish Temple be rebuilt.

oops. I do take exception with that, seeing how the church is the Temple of God, and I do not like the part about Constantine and the cross in a circle. I have heard the cross in a circle means a defeated Christ.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-05-27   23:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#6)

These Illuminati fags have GOT TO GO.

Quote of the month! Wish I'd said it, LOL!

Rabble Rouser  posted on  2006-05-28   0:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rabble Rouser, TommyTheMadArtist (#16)

I particularly liked this one:

The best part about something like a world war, is a lot of these rich pricks will find that bombs do not discriminate in who's houses get destroyed.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-05-28   10:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Rabble Rouser, TommyTheMadArtist (#17)

The best part about something like a world war, is a lot of these rich pricks will find that bombs do not discriminate in who's houses get destroyed.

You're right, if any of the same said chickenhawks had read history with any objectivity, they would know that by now.

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. – George Washington

"If the president made us go to war with Iraq, why doesn't he go over there and fight the war?" Christian May [6th grader]

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   10:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#18)

From what I've seen on these threads the last few days, robin, IMO, 'something' is blinding them.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-05-28   14:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#19)

From what I've seen on these threads the last few days, robin, IMO, 'something' is blinding them.

Oh yes. Sometimes I have to remind myself that it's the war we win in the end, but not every battle.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   15:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robin, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, SKYDRIFTER (#20)

To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

Here is the Nazi-style mandatory national service BS, in SPADES!

All those good little NEXT GENERATION NAZIS will be lining up at the recruiting office the day after this is passed.

Calling BAC, your ship has come in. Get ready to serve the Fatherland.

We need more rope!

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: loner (#3)

PING!

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#6)

The best part about something like a world war, is a lot of these rich pricks will find that bombs do not discriminate in who's houses get destroyed.

A close second would be the rich pricks finding out that during a financial collpase, the $7/hour Wackenhutters guarding their gated communities will either run or join in with the angry mob that comes to burn them out of their McMansions.

"Bomb De-Fusing For Dummies, Chapter 1, Wiring: Red Before Yellow Kills A Fellow."

orangedog  posted on  2006-05-28   16:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robin, Zipporah (#2)

Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

So they just happened to have this bill all ready, for what?

We've been warning for 2 years that the draft was waitng in the wings.

This is a back door draft and totally fascist in nature. Waht better way to get the CCC back in style and to force people into some kind of national service.

Only slaves must serve. These bastards have it all backwards. THEY serve US, not the other way around.

And if anyone thought for a moment that the Dems would change a thing, let this put that idea to rest. We have a ruling duopoly and Rangel is one of THEM.

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: orangedog (#23)

the $7/hour Wackenhutters guarding their gated communities will either run or join in with the angry mob that comes to burn them out of their McMansions.

You bet your egg McMuffin they will. ;0)

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin (#0)

If they initiate the draft that's the end of their dreams for empire. They're house of cards will come tumbling down if they start a draft. There will be riots that would make the Berkley riots look pale in comparison.

Truthseeker

loner  posted on  2006-05-28   16:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: BTP Holdings (#21)

Calling BAC, your ship has come in. Get ready to serve the Fatherland.

Ha, BAC has "other priorities". It's you and yours that are expected to die for the corporation, that's the plan.

tom007  posted on  2006-05-28   16:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#0)

I would very much like to know examples of other countries who send their females into war.

This reads like a draft, up to age 42? And FEMALES??!!

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   16:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: loner, BTP Holdings (#26)

It would take a major event. But then I read that the UnPatriot Act was written before 9/11.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   16:44:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: loner (#26)

And the more we spread the truth about the biggest war cime of all, the better.

Depleted Uranium Weapons

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Diana (#28)

The mother of a classmate of mine in highschool had been a captain in the Israeli army.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   16:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tom007 (#27)

Ha, BAC has "other priorities". It's you and yours that are expected to die for the corporation, that's the plan.

BAC better make sure he doesn't get locked out of the bunker with the rest of us little people when the SHTF. ;0)

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, robin, All (#3)

"...Bond Servant

To cover the debt in 1933 and future debt, the corporate government determined and established the value of the future labor of each individual in its jurisdiction to be $630,000. A bond of $630,000 is set on each Certificate of Live Birth. The certificates are bundled together into sets and then placed as securities on the open market. These certificates are then purchased by the Federal Reserve and/or foreign bankers. The purchaser is the "holder" of "Title." This process made each and every person in this jurisdiction a bond servant...."

Please, PLEASE tell me this is all a joke!!!

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   16:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Diana (#33)

Well, Congress is a joke. Does that help?

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   16:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Diana (#33)

Please, PLEASE tell me this is all a joke!!!

It's no joke. When the U.S. went into bankruptcy with Roosevelt's Banking Holiday in 1933, the states all rushed to the aid of the federal government and pledged all their property and tat of their citizens, including future generations, as collateral on the national debt. In exchange, the banksters would give the U.S. all the credit it desired; to infinity.

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: loner. all here (#26)

If they initiate the draft that's the end of their dreams for empire. They're house of cards will come tumbling down if they start a draft. There will be riots that would make the Berkley riots look pale in comparison.

That's basically what a retired general from West Point Grads Against the War said in an interview that I caught this morning.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-28   16:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Diana, All (#33)

A bond of $630,000 is set on each Certificate of Live Birth

The amount has been raised since then to $1 million.

Now you know why Bush and the rest of them are wanting to give amnesty to 20 million illegals. Do the math, $1 million times 20 million. What do we get?

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: BTP Holdings, Diana (#35)

including future generations, as collateral on the national debt. In exchange, the banksters would give the U.S. all the credit it desired; to infinity.

sold down the river

I feel like humming a spiritual.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   16:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: robin (#38)

sold down the river

I feel like humming a spiritual.

The real joke is on the rest of the world, at least those who are in the IMF and other international banking systems. They all took the bait offered by the banksters.

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   17:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, robin, Zipporah, christine, All (#3)

That war is to be directed in such a manner that all of Islam and political Zionism (Israelis) will destroy each other while at the same time; the remaining nations, once more divided on this issue, will be forced to fight themselves into a state of complete exhaustion; physically, mentally, spiritually, and economically.

Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world-minority of the world-revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal-manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."....'

So this is suppose to be all about Satanism or some such thing? That is the objective? And here Stone was so worried about Wiccans!!!

Well whether this is for real or not, I can't help but nominate that as scariest post of the year.

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   17:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lodwick (#36)

http://www.westpointgradsagainstthewar.org/

Nice website.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   17:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Zipporah, All (#6)

These Illuminati fags have GOT TO GO.

Who or what in the heck is the illuminati?

Are they for real or not??!! And if they are real what is their purpose? Some satanism thing???

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   17:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: robin, All (#8)

All this stuff is like a grown-up version of the monsters in the basement.

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   17:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Diana, B T P Holdings, robin, All (#40)

So this is suppose to be all about Satanism or some such thing?

It is, very much IMO, the last battle that began in Genesis 3:15.

I have just spent the last couple of hours gathering up evidence to express this over here:

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=27152&Disp=15#C15

so, am just seeing the new posts on this thread. Unfortunately, the Sheeple just came home so I have to check out for awhile.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-05-28   17:17:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: lodwick (#36)

This is why they haven't started the draft yet, and I rather doubt that they will. They don't have to, all they have to do is outsource more jobs leaving former middle class americans destitute and desperate and ready to become cannon fodder for the fascists.

Truthseeker

loner  posted on  2006-05-28   17:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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