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Title: H.R. 4752: Universal National Service Act of 2006 (Feb 2006)
Source: www.govtrack.us
URL Source: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h109-4752
Published: May 27, 2006
Author: 109th Congress
Post Date: 2006-05-27 13:22:08 by robin
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Views: 438
Comments: 65

109th U.S. Congress (2005-2006)

H.R. 4752: Universal National Service Act of 2006
Introduced:Feb 14, 2006
Sponsor:Rep. Charles Rangel [D-NY]
Status:Introduced (By Rep. Charles Rangel [D-NY])

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109TH CONGRESS
H. R. 4752
2D SESSION


To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United
States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform
a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance
of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.




IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
FEBRUARY 14, 2006
Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the
Committee on Armed Services




A BILL
To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons
in the United States, including women, between the ages
of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service
or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the na-
tional defense and homeland security, and for other pur-
poses.

1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa-
2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
3 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

4 (a) SHORT TITLE.--This Act may be cited as the
5 ``Universal National Service Act of 2006''.
2
1 (b) TABLE CONTENTS.--The table of contents for
OF

2 this Act is as follows:
Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.
Sec. 2. National service obligation.
Sec. 3. Two-year period of national service.
Sec. 4. Implementation by the President.
Sec. 5. Induction.
Sec. 6. Deferments and postponements.
Sec. 7. Induction exemptions.
Sec. 8. Conscientious objection.
Sec. 9. Discharge following national service.
Sec. 10. Registration of females under the Military Selective Service Act.
Sec. 11. Relation of Act to registration and induction authority of military se-
lective service Act.
Sec. 12. Definitions.

3 SEC. 2. NATIONAL SERVICE OBLIGATION.

4 (a) OBLIGATION SERVICE.--It is the obligation
FOR

5 of every citizen of the United States, and every other per-
6 son residing in the United States, who is between the ages
7 of 18 and 42 to perform a period of national service as
8 prescribed in this Act unless exempted under the provi-
9 sions of this Act.
10 (b) FORM NATIONAL SERVICE.--National service
OF

11 under this Act shall be performed either--
12 (1) as a member of an active or reserve compo-
13 nent of the uniformed services; or
14 (2) in a civilian capacity that, as determined by
15 the President, promotes the national defense, includ-
16 ing national or community service and homeland se-
17 curity.




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1 (c) INDUCTION REQUIREMENTS.--The President
2 shall provide for the induction of persons covered by sub-
3 section (a) to perform national service under this Act.
4 (d) SELECTION MILITARY SERVICE.--Based
FOR

5 upon the needs of the uniformed services, the President
6 shall--
7 (1) determine the number of persons covered by
8 subsection (a) whose service is to be performed as a
9 member of an active or reserve component of the
10 uniformed services; and
11 (2) select the individuals among those persons
12 who are to be inducted for military service under
13 this Act.
14 (e) CIVILIAN SERVICE.--Persons covered by sub-
15 section (a) who are not selected for military service under
16 subsection (d) shall perform their national service obliga-
17 tion under this Act in a civilian capacity pursuant to sub-
18 section (b)(2).
19 SEC. 3. TWO-YEAR PERIOD OF NATIONAL SERVICE.

20 (a) GENERAL RULE.--Except as otherwise provided
21 in this section, the period of national service performed
22 by a person under this Act shall be two years.
23 (b) GROUNDS EXTENSION.--At the discretion of
FOR

24 the President, the period of military service for a member




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1 of the uniformed services under this Act may be ex-
2 tended--
3 (1) with the consent of the member, for the
4 purpose of furnishing hospitalization, medical, or
5 surgical care for injury or illness incurred in line of
6 duty; or
7 (2) for the purpose of requiring the member to
8 compensate for any time lost to training for any
9 cause.
10 (c) EARLY TERMINATION.--The period of national
11 service for a person under this Act shall be terminated
12 before the end of such period under the following cir-
13 cumstances:
14 (1) The voluntary enlistment and active service
15 of the person in an active or reserve component of
16 the uniformed services for a period of at least two
17 years, in which case the period of basic military
18 training and education actually served by the person
19 shall be counted toward the term of enlistment.
20 (2) The admission and service of the person as
21 a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military
22 Academy, the United States Naval Academy, the
23 United States Air Force Academy, the Coast Guard
24 Academy, or the United States Merchant Marine
25 Academy.


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1 (3) The enrollment and service of the person in
2 an officer candidate program, if the person has
3 signed an agreement to accept a Reserve commission
4 in the appropriate service with an obligation to serve
5 on active duty if such a commission is offered upon
6 completion of the program.
7 (4) Such other grounds as the President may
8 establish.
9 SEC. 4. IMPLEMENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT.

10 (a) IN GENERAL.--The President shall prescribe
11 such regulations as are necessary to carry out this Act.
12 (b) MATTER BE COVERED REGULATIONS.--
TO BY

13 Such regulations shall include specification of the fol-
14 lowing:
15 (1) The types of civilian service that may be
16 performed for a person's national service obligation
17 under this Act.
18 (2) Standards for satisfactory performance of
19 civilian service and of penalties for failure to per-
20 form civilian service satisfactorily.
21 (3) The manner in which persons shall be se-
22 lected for induction under this Act, including the
23 manner in which those selected will be notified of
24 such selection.




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1 (4) All other administrative matters in connec-
2 tion with the induction of persons under this Act
3 and the registration, examination, and classification
4 of such persons.
5 (5) A means to determine questions or claims
6 with respect to inclusion for, or exemption or
7 deferment from induction under this Act, including
8 questions of conscientious objection.
9 (6) Standards for compensation and benefits
10 for persons performing their national service obliga-
11 tion under this Act through civilian service.
12 (7) Such other matters as the President deter-
13 mines necessary to carry out this Act.
14 (c) USE PRIOR ACT.--To the extent determined
OF

15 appropriate by the President, the President may use for
16 purposes of this Act the procedures provided in the Mili-
17 tary Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.),
18 including procedures for registration, selection, and induc-
19 tion.
20 SEC. 5. INDUCTION.

21 (a) IN GENERAL.--Every person subject to induction
22 for national service under this Act, except those whose
23 training is deferred or postponed in accordance with this
24 Act, shall be called and inducted by the President for such
25 service at the time and place specified by the President.


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1 (b) AGE LIMITS.--A person may be inducted under
2 this Act only if the person has attained the age of 18 and
3 has not attained the age of 42.
4 (c) VOLUNTARY INDUCTION.--A person subject to in-
5 duction under this Act may volunteer for induction at a
6 time other than the time at which the person is otherwise
7 called for induction.
8 (d) EXAMINATION; CLASSIFICATION.--Every person
9 subject to induction under this Act shall, before induction,
10 be physically and mentally examined and shall be classified
11 as to fitness to perform national service. The President
12 may apply different classification standards for fitness for
13 military service and fitness for civilian service.
14 SEC. 6. DEFERMENTS AND POSTPONEMENTS.

15 (a) HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.--A person who is pur-
16 suing a standard course of study, on a full-time basis, in
17 a secondary school or similar institution of learning shall
18 be entitled to have induction under this Act postponed
19 until the person--
20 (1) obtains a high school diploma;
21 (2) ceases to pursue satisfactorily such course
22 of study; or
23 (3) attains the age of 20.
24 (b) HARDSHIP DISABILITY.--Deferments from
AND

25 national service under this Act may be made for--


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1 (1) extreme hardship; or
2 (2) physical or mental disability.
3 (c) TRAINING CAPACITY.--The President may post-
4 pone or suspend the induction of persons for military serv-
5 ice under this Act as necessary to limit the number of per-
6 sons receiving basic military training and education to the
7 maximum number that can be adequately trained.
8 (d) TERMINATION.--No deferment or postponement
9 of induction under this Act shall continue after the cause
10 of such deferment or postponement ceases.
11 SEC. 7. INDUCTION EXEMPTIONS.

12 (a) QUALIFICATIONS.--No person may be inducted
13 for military service under this Act unless the person is
14 acceptable to the Secretary concerned for training and
15 meets the same health and physical qualifications applica-
16 ble under section 505 of title 10, United States Code, to
17 persons seeking original enlistment in a regular compo-
18 nent of the Armed Forces.
19 (b) OTHER MILITARY SERVICE.--No person shall be
20 liable for induction under this Act who--
21 (1) is serving, or has served honorably for at
22 least six months, in any component of the uniformed
23 services on active duty; or
24 (2) is or becomes a cadet or midshipman at the
25 United States Military Academy, the United States


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1 Naval Academy, the United States Air Force Acad-
2 emy, the Coast Guard Academy, the United States
3 Merchant Marine Academy, a midshipman of a Navy
4 accredited State maritime academy, a member of the
5 Senior Reserve Officers' Training Corps, or the
6 naval aviation college program, so long as that per-
7 son satisfactorily continues in and completes at least
8 two years training therein.
9 SEC. 8. CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION.

10 (a) CLAIMS CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR.--Noth-
AS

11 ing in this Act shall be construed to require a person to
12 be subject to combatant training and service in the uni-
13 formed services, if that person, by reason of sincerely held
14 moral, ethical, or religious beliefs, is conscientiously op-
15 posed to participation in war in any form.
16 (b) ALTERNATIVE NONCOMBATANT CIVILIAN
OR

17 SERVICE.--A person who claims exemption from combat-
18 ant training and service under subsection (a) and whose
19 claim is sustained by the local board shall--
20 (1) be assigned to noncombatant service (as de-
21 fined by the President), if the person is inducted
22 into the uniformed services; or
23 (2) be ordered by the local board, if found to
24 be conscientiously opposed to participation in such
25 noncombatant service, to perform national civilian


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1 service for the period specified in section 3(a) and
2 subject to such regulations as the President may
3 prescribe.
4 SEC. 9. DISCHARGE FOLLOWING NATIONAL SERVICE.

5 (a) DISCHARGE.--Upon completion or termination of
6 the obligation to perform national service under this Act,
7 a person shall be discharged from the uniformed services
8 or from civilian service, as the case may be, and shall not
9 be subject to any further service under this Act.
10 (b) COORDINATION WITH OTHER AUTHORITIES.--
11 Nothing in this section shall limit or prohibit the call to
12 active service in the uniformed services of any person who
13 is a member of a regular or reserve component of the uni-
14 formed services.
15 SEC. 10. REGISTRATION OF FEMALES UNDER THE MILI-

16 TARY SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT.

17 (a) REGISTRATION REQUIRED.--Section 3(a) of the
18 Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. 453(a)) is
19 amended--
20 (1) by striking ``male'' both places it appears;
21 (2) by inserting ``or herself'' after ``himself'';
22 and
23 (3) by striking ``he'' and inserting ``the per-
24 son''.




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1 (b) CONFORMING AMENDMENT.--Section 16(a) of
2 the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 466(a))
3 is amended by striking ``men'' and inserting ``persons''.
4 SEC. 11. RELATION OF ACT TO REGISTRATION AND INDUC-

5 TION AUTHORITY OF MILITARY SELECTIVE

6 SERVICE ACT.

7 (a) REGISTRATION.--Section 4 of the Military Selec-
8 tive Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 454) is amended by in-
9 serting after subsection (g) the following new subsection:
10 ``(h) This section does not apply with respect to the
11 induction of persons into the Armed Forces pursuant to
12 the Universal National Service Act of 2006.''.
13 (b) INDUCTION.--Section 17(c) of the Military Selec-
14 tive Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 467(c)) is amended by
15 striking ``now or hereafter'' and all that follows through
16 the period at the end and inserting ``inducted pursuant
17 to the Universal National Service Act of 2006.''.
18 SEC. 12. DEFINITIONS.

19 In this Act:
20 (1) The term ``military service'' means service
21 performed as a member of an active or reserve com-
22 ponent of the uniformed services.
23 (2) The term ``Secretary concerned'' means the
24 Secretary of Defense with respect to the Army,
25 Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps, the Secretary


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1 of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast
2 Guard, the Secretary of Commerce, with respect to
3 matters concerning the National Oceanic and At-
4 mospheric Administration, and the Secretary of
5 Health and Human Services, with respect to matters
6 concerning the Public Health Service.
7 (3) The term ``United States'', when used in a
8 geographical sense, means the several States, the
9 District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Is-
10 lands, and Guam.
11 (4) The term ``uniformed services'' means the
12 Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard,
13 commissioned corps of the National Oceanic and At-
14 mospheric Administration, and commissioned corps
15 of the Public Health Service.





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#25. To: orangedog (#23)

the $7/hour Wackenhutters guarding their gated communities will either run or join in with the angry mob that comes to burn them out of their McMansions.

You bet your egg McMuffin they will. ;0)

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin (#0)

If they initiate the draft that's the end of their dreams for empire. They're house of cards will come tumbling down if they start a draft. There will be riots that would make the Berkley riots look pale in comparison.

Truthseeker

loner  posted on  2006-05-28   16:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: BTP Holdings (#21)

Calling BAC, your ship has come in. Get ready to serve the Fatherland.

Ha, BAC has "other priorities". It's you and yours that are expected to die for the corporation, that's the plan.

tom007  posted on  2006-05-28   16:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#0)

I would very much like to know examples of other countries who send their females into war.

This reads like a draft, up to age 42? And FEMALES??!!

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   16:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: loner, BTP Holdings (#26)

It would take a major event. But then I read that the UnPatriot Act was written before 9/11.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   16:44:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: loner (#26)

And the more we spread the truth about the biggest war cime of all, the better.

Depleted Uranium Weapons

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Diana (#28)

The mother of a classmate of mine in highschool had been a captain in the Israeli army.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   16:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tom007 (#27)

Ha, BAC has "other priorities". It's you and yours that are expected to die for the corporation, that's the plan.

BAC better make sure he doesn't get locked out of the bunker with the rest of us little people when the SHTF. ;0)

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, robin, All (#3)

"...Bond Servant

To cover the debt in 1933 and future debt, the corporate government determined and established the value of the future labor of each individual in its jurisdiction to be $630,000. A bond of $630,000 is set on each Certificate of Live Birth. The certificates are bundled together into sets and then placed as securities on the open market. These certificates are then purchased by the Federal Reserve and/or foreign bankers. The purchaser is the "holder" of "Title." This process made each and every person in this jurisdiction a bond servant...."

Please, PLEASE tell me this is all a joke!!!

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   16:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Diana (#33)

Well, Congress is a joke. Does that help?

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   16:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Diana (#33)

Please, PLEASE tell me this is all a joke!!!

It's no joke. When the U.S. went into bankruptcy with Roosevelt's Banking Holiday in 1933, the states all rushed to the aid of the federal government and pledged all their property and tat of their citizens, including future generations, as collateral on the national debt. In exchange, the banksters would give the U.S. all the credit it desired; to infinity.

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: loner. all here (#26)

If they initiate the draft that's the end of their dreams for empire. They're house of cards will come tumbling down if they start a draft. There will be riots that would make the Berkley riots look pale in comparison.

That's basically what a retired general from West Point Grads Against the War said in an interview that I caught this morning.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-28   16:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Diana, All (#33)

A bond of $630,000 is set on each Certificate of Live Birth

The amount has been raised since then to $1 million.

Now you know why Bush and the rest of them are wanting to give amnesty to 20 million illegals. Do the math, $1 million times 20 million. What do we get?

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   16:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: BTP Holdings, Diana (#35)

including future generations, as collateral on the national debt. In exchange, the banksters would give the U.S. all the credit it desired; to infinity.

sold down the river

I feel like humming a spiritual.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   16:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: robin (#38)

sold down the river

I feel like humming a spiritual.

The real joke is on the rest of the world, at least those who are in the IMF and other international banking systems. They all took the bait offered by the banksters.

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   17:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, robin, Zipporah, christine, All (#3)

That war is to be directed in such a manner that all of Islam and political Zionism (Israelis) will destroy each other while at the same time; the remaining nations, once more divided on this issue, will be forced to fight themselves into a state of complete exhaustion; physically, mentally, spiritually, and economically.

Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world-minority of the world-revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal-manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."....'

So this is suppose to be all about Satanism or some such thing? That is the objective? And here Stone was so worried about Wiccans!!!

Well whether this is for real or not, I can't help but nominate that as scariest post of the year.

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   17:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lodwick (#36)

http://www.westpointgradsagainstthewar.org/

Nice website.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   17:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Zipporah, All (#6)

These Illuminati fags have GOT TO GO.

Who or what in the heck is the illuminati?

Are they for real or not??!! And if they are real what is their purpose? Some satanism thing???

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   17:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: robin, All (#8)

All this stuff is like a grown-up version of the monsters in the basement.

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   17:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Diana, B T P Holdings, robin, All (#40)

So this is suppose to be all about Satanism or some such thing?

It is, very much IMO, the last battle that began in Genesis 3:15.

I have just spent the last couple of hours gathering up evidence to express this over here:

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=27152&Disp=15#C15

so, am just seeing the new posts on this thread. Unfortunately, the Sheeple just came home so I have to check out for awhile.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-05-28   17:17:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: lodwick (#36)

This is why they haven't started the draft yet, and I rather doubt that they will. They don't have to, all they have to do is outsource more jobs leaving former middle class americans destitute and desperate and ready to become cannon fodder for the fascists.

Truthseeker

loner  posted on  2006-05-28   17:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: BTP Holdings (#37)

Now you know why Bush and the rest of them are wanting to give amnesty to 20 million illegals. Do the math, $1 million times 20 million. What do we get?

Are you implying that they will make money off these people? And if so how?

Diana  posted on  2006-05-28   17:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: loner (#45)

This is why they haven't started the draft yet, and I rather doubt that they will.

No way can they have a draft and maybe wake up all those sleeping sheep out there. As the general observed this morning, in this eternal war, the first thing the Decideror told us to go was to go on with our lives, go shopping, take the family to DisneyWorld (for Christ's sake); there was nothing about any sacrifice, or actually doing anything, other than whatever we were doing pre- 9.11.

It's all totally bogus.

I can't even write about it, it's so obscene.

Cheers, friend.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-28   17:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Diana (#33)

What's more, you aren't allowed to die until you pay off your bond

Sonovademocrat  posted on  2006-05-28   17:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: lodwick (#47)

Hi Loddy! I really appreciate your warning me a couple of years ago, to better prepare me for what was/is coming. You were so right.

rattler  posted on  2006-05-28   18:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: rattler (#49)

Hey - good to see ya again.

Once we shake ourselves, and wake up, it's impossible to go back to sleep, ever again.

Evening cheers, friend.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-28   18:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: lodwick (#47)

The cryptocracy calls it fattening the "cattle", or useless feeders, for the slaughter. The day of reckoning is at hand lod my friend, the rooster has come home to roost.

Truthseeker

loner  posted on  2006-05-28   18:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: loner. rattler. everyone (#51)

It could be brutal.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-28   18:54:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: lodwick (#52)

lol, appropiate.

Truthseeker

loner  posted on  2006-05-28   19:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: lodwick (#50)

Same here - nice to talk! Cheers back :) We have fires going on throughout the desert... at least one possibly set by illegals. They often set signal fires, and there hasn't been any lightning lately.

rattler  posted on  2006-05-28   20:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: lodwick (#52)

LOL about the rooster!

rattler  posted on  2006-05-28   20:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Diana, christine, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, noone222, All (#46)

Are you implying that they will make money off these people? And if so how?

Yep. They are using our record of birth (and those of the illegals given amnesty, if that in fact occurs) as collateral on the international securities markets.

What they are doing is using all of our production as adults as a form of collateral. We, in effect, have been pledged without our knowledge or consent, just as when you register your auto you pledge it to the state. This operates under the Law of Pledges. Thereis also a constructive trust created when this registration, or pledge, occurs. The gov't is in violation of that trust since they are enriched by the use of our names and our labor and other property in the various registration and licensing schemes they are running under color of law (RACKETEERING) against the people.

Government has become the biggest criminal enterprise in history; nothing more than syndicalism.

See what Fisher Ames had to say about licentiousness.

We are bondservants as the post above says. We laboer in servitude to pay off the national debt. And the collection agency for the banksters is the IRS.

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   21:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: BTP Holdings (#56)

Historically, Fisher Ames is best known for his opposition to Jeffersonian democracy. He favored a constitutional republic. Ames said, "A democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction. These will produce an eruption and carry desolation in their way. The known propensity of a democracy is to licentiousness which the ambitious call, and ignorant believe to be liberty." Further, he stated that, "Liberty has never lasted long in a democracy, nor has it ever ended in anything better than despotism." In fact he believed that it was "democracy that pollutes the morals of the people before it swallows up their freedoms." For a pure democracy, he argued, would lend itself to the new nation's coming under the influence of the basest of human motivations: greed and a lack of public virtue. Ames believed that "the United States must lash itself to a constitution of laws, not the whim of democratic preference."

I don't remember studying anything about him. We seem to be proving him correct.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-28   21:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Diana, christine, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, noone222, All (#56)

BTW, that amnesty would give the USG another $20 TRILLION they could tack onto the debt limits.

We already are seeing over $57 trillion in debt, and this includes unfunded liabilities such as pension plans, etc.

This story finally hit the MSM just the other day. And this after many of us have known about the true state of the national debt for many years now, something which has been carefully hidden from the sheeple. The cat is out of the bag moreor less on it now. But many will simply forget about it and keep driving their SUV and maxing out their credit cards.

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   21:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: robin (#57)

I don't remember studying anything about him. We seem to be proving him correct.

Discovering Fisher Ames, with the help of the Barnes Review, is what really turned me into the the ardent foe of the criminal cabal which has distorted our nation for so long now. It operates at the local level to keep us in unwitting servitude.

"Our constitution relies on our ... freedom to nourish independent and responsible intelligence and preserve our democracy from that submissiveness, timidity and herd-mindedness of the masses... The priceless heritage of our society is the ... right of each member to think as he will. Thought control is a copyright of totalitarianism, and we have no claim to it. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error. Robert Jackson, US Supreme Court, 1954

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-05-28   21:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: robin, BTP Holdings (#38)

sold down the river

I feel like humming a spiritual.

I feel like throwing up.

Diana  posted on  2006-05-29   0:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: BTP Holdings, Diana, robin, All (#37)

The amount has been raised since then to $1 million.

Now you know why Bush and the rest of them are wanting to give amnesty to 20 million illegals. Do the math, $1 million times 20 million. What do we get?

$20 TRILLION was what I came up with too. That should keep their Titanic afloat a few more years. What do WE get? We get to go to "camp". CorpUSA, which won't let chaplains pray in the name of Jesus, are going around to the churches to have the PASTORS prepare the sheep for the slaughter, and CorpUSA which TOTALLY REJECTS the NEW TESTAMENT, is asking PASTORS to use ROMANS 13, to do it. Once there, you can choose to go into their army, or you can fulfill your obligation as George Bush [our Jew-in-chief - see Texxe Marrs [sp?] George Bush Zionist Double Agent] gets to choose. You can forfeit all your property to the PTB [See Title 50] and be beheaded so some of his rich "Jewish" brethren can have a shot at your organs. See my comments at BLOOMBERG WANTS NATIONAL DNA DATABASE #27106.

see

Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors as Pacifiers in Preparation For Martial Law

My computer is starting to crash, so I can't pull it up. It's ID # is 26957.

I haven't had a chance to get to that one.

See the true meaning of Romans 13 at VINE AND FIG TREE website, maybe by search vine and fig tree a world without the state. The man is a "Christian anarchist" [it's not what you think]. Someone should warn him that Bush considers "anarchists" as terrorists. Better copy his site. I ran across another one recently, and will try to dig it out.

Now, how anyone cannot see a diabolical plot here, is beyond me.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-05-29   10:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#61)

What do they plan to do with all the confiscated property, just let it go to shambles?

Diana  posted on  2006-05-29   10:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Sonovademocratl Diana, All (#48)

What's more, you aren't allowed to die until you pay off your bond

Please see #61.

There are 80,000 people waiting for transplants in America. Rockefeller hospitals get, what was that number, about $241,000 for either a kidney or transplant. Can't rememember which. It's in the Sherman Skolnick article at BLOOMBER WANTS NATIONAL DNA DATABASE. Maybe this is why ROCKEFELLER DID NOT VOTE ON THE IMMIGRATION BILL. IT WOULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!!

SEE ALSO THE BANKRUPTCY OF AMERICA at http://apfn.org or http://apfn.net. NOTE THE ROCKEFELLER QUOTE ABOUT THE RIGHT CRISIS NEEDED TO BRING IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER, and the question is asked what if anything does that have to do with 9/11.

The Rockefellers are into it up to their ears. They are Nazis from way back. Search Rockefeller Nazis at http://tarpley.net. Search ROCKEFELLER THE MEN BEHIND HITLER

See this:

Men Behind Hitler - The Same Old TuneTHE SAME OLD TUNE. South Africa; USA ... In the USA in 1968 a voluntary euthanasia bill was introduced in Florida and an eminent surgeon and member of the ... http://www.toolan.com/hitler/sa meold.html You will see the Florida Bill that presaged the execution of TERRI SCHIAVO, all in preparation for what they are preparing to pull off now.

I don't have much time. Here are some links I just pulled up with the Rockefeller associated with the Nazis, eugenics, and the rest, under toolan.com, just to give you an idea:

Men Behind Hitler - Chapter II If men want to know whether the lower races of man can evolve a higher type, ... on the staff of the Rockefeller Institute since its inception published his ... http://www.toolan.com/hitler/su rvive.html

Men Behind Hitler - The Same Old TuneGenetics and Eugenics as such - not behind the cloak of mental health - were still ... The Rockefeller institute that backs the AMA has produced devastating ... http://www.toolan.com/hitler/sa meold.html

THE HUMAN LIFE REVIEWBernard Schreiber, The Men Behind Hitler: A German Warning to the World, translated by HR Martindale, http://www.toolan.com/hitler/ind ex.html, chapter 5. ... http://www.humanliferev iew.com/2004_fall/road.php

[PDF] From Rockefeller to Roe v . WadeFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Bernard Schreiber, The Men Behind Hitler: A German Warning to the World, translated by HR. Martindale, http://www.toolan.com/hitler/ind ex.html, chapter 5. ... http://www.nla.org/Documents/eu genics.pdf

Impeachment [Archive] - SafeSearching - Forums (http://www.toolan.com/hitler/s ameold.html) What's really going on behind the scenes? Anybody care to do the following exercise? ... ... http://boards.safesearching.com/ vb3/archive/index.php/t-33624.html

Know your BFEE: Like a NAZIProminent advocates of the program such as the Rockefeller family, Henry Ford, and Margaret Sanger ... 118. The Men Behind Hitler- A Warning to the World ... http://www.democraticunderg round.com/discuss/ duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=133897

The Smirking Chimp - John Chuckman: 'The real clash of ...http://www.toolan.com/hitler/inde x.html ... Aganist The Jews is a several hundred page horror story of Rockefeller collaboration with the Nazis and Arabs, ... [THAT looks interesting!] http://www.smirkingchimp.com/articl e. php?sid=11976&mode=nested&order=0 - 93k

Coleus "The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes. Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952 "Fifty men have run ... http://www.freerepublic.com/~coleus/

[PDF] ROSENKORSETFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat Bernhard Schreiber, The Men Behind Hitler. http://www.toolan.com/hitler/ ... When Carrel retired from the Rockefeller Institute in 1938 he was planning an ... http://www.kunskapskonsult .com/Rosenkorset.pdf

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-05-29   10:58:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Diana (#62)

What do they plan to do with all the confiscated property, just let it go to shambles?

God love you. You are just so precious.

No Diana. They plan on taking it for themselves. Search this: the Jews claim, "AMERICA IS OUR ZION".

That's what 9/11 was all about. Them "SEIZING THE REIGNS OF GOVERNMENT" and taking it all, making all non-Jews and non-"Noachides" persons non-grata. Anyone who worships Christ, and will not worship their god, who is Lucifer, gets beheaded. Christians are ISRAEL. They want to "cast us off, so that the name ISRAEL will not be heard anymore." 9/11 was planned according to the Kaballists, I am convinced. Everything that happens, according to them, "happens to the benefit of the Jewish people". We are beasts to them. Beasts do not own property. See Title 50, Confiscation of Property [search]. See THE QUESTION IS WHY? Title 50 at http://wealth4freedom.com. The comment is made that the WE WERE NOT CONSIDERED THE POSTERITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THE CONSTITUTION. IT WAS SATANIC. See 350 years of Jews in America, posted at 4um last week. Note where they boast they [I don't remember exactly, and cannot pull it up at the moment] promoted liberty [?} FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR POSTERITY. In their own words. The Constitution was a continuation of the Judeo-Masonic-British [the Monarchy is "Jewish"] plot to take away the charter we were given in 1606 to CLAIM AMERICA FOR CHRIST AND THE SPREADING OF THE GOSPEL. As THE QUESTION IS WHY? says, WE, especially CHRISTIANS, were NOT considered THEIR posterity.

Take heart, Diana. God forsaw all this. Read Micah 4, Psalm 2. See Ezekiel 17:1-10/ Matthew 15:13. That Eagle represents the King of Babylon, [it was foretold that the Daughter of Zion would DWELL with the Daughter of Babylon - the old Jerusalem became the Whore of Babylon; it was also foretold that Jesus would Rule in the midst of His enemies.] the devil, etc. The Eagle is also the symbol of Dan [see Lost Tribe of Dan at http://watch.pair.com]. Read the rest of Ezekiel 17. He took the tree from the Old Jerusalem, and He has planted it here. God has said, I WILL PLANT MY PEOPLE ISRAEL, AND THEY WILL BE MOVED NO MORE. Does anyone still believe these demonic folks are ISRAEL? God's CHOSEN??? NOT!!! They are the Synagogue of Satan. Rev. 2:9, 3:9.

Bless you, Diana. It is time to wake up the churches.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-05-29   11:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: BTP Holdings (#21)

Calling BAC, your ship has come in. Get ready to serve the Fatherland.

yeah, that's going to happen. /sarcasm

christine  posted on  2006-06-04   21:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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