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Title: Minutemen Installing Ariz. Border Fence
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... /05/27/national/a190724D45.DTL
Published: May 28, 2006
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2006-05-28 00:59:42 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 143
Comments: 14

(05-27) 20:42 PDT , (AP) --

PALOMINAS, Ariz. — Scores of volunteers gathered at a remote ranch Saturday to help a civilian border-patrol group start building a short security fence in hopes of reducing illegal immigration from Mexico.

The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps plans to install a combination of barbed wire, razor wire, and in some spots, steel rail barriers along the 10-mile stretch of private land in southeastern Arizona.

They hope it prompts the federal government to do the same along the entire Arizona border.

President Bush has pledged to deploy as many as 6,000 National Guard troops to strengthen enforcement at the border. The guardsmen would fill in on some behind-the-lines Border Patrol jobs while that agency's force is expanded.

But the Minutemen have said it's not enough. The group's founder, Chris Simcox, said they want a secure fence and they're starting at the site where his first patrols began in November 2002.

Rancher Jack Ladd and his son, John, were hopeful the effort would limit the illegal immigrants and drug runners who have cut the small fence along the property or just driven over it to cross into the U.S.

"We've been fighting this thing for 10 years with the fence, and nobody will do anything," Jack Ladd said.

Most of the day was dedicated to speeches from politicians and Minutemen leaders and celebrating large donations the Minutemen group has been receiving.

Minuteman spokeswoman Connie Hair said it would take up to three weeks to build the estimated $100,000 fence. So far, the group has raised $380,000 for more border fences, she said.

Timothy Schwartz of Glendale, Ariz., who was among at least 200 volunteers gathered, said he wants to see a fence along the border from California to Texas.

"We're not going to stop," Schwartz said. "We're going to stay here with a group and keep building."

Quetzal Doty of Sun Lakes, Ariz., a retired U.S. diplomatic consular officer, brought his wife, Sandy, to the event.

He said he's convinced the Minutemen and most Americans aren't anti-immigrant.

"They're just anti-illegal," said Doty. "The Minutemen walk the extra mile to avoid being anti-immigrant and that's what we like about the organization and what got us interested."

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(A previous version of this story reported incorrectly that Jack Ladd is the son of John Ladd.)

URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2006/05/27/national/a190724D45.DTL

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Isnt this sad really ..?? That citizens have to revert to these measures?? This IS a nightmare that's become reality..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-28   1:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#1)

Interesting to note that none of these articles mention that former Presidential candidate Alan Keyes was on hand working on the fence. There is a great picture of him raising a fence pole with Chris Simcox and others a la Iwo Jima on the net, but somehow the news bureaus 'can't seem to find it'.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-28   7:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

He said he's convinced the Minutemen and most Americans aren't anti-immigrant.

So what if they are? I am sick of everybody apologizing for everything. Only white people seem to suffer from this affliction. Perhaps if they'd quit urinating and defecating in public...perhaps if they quit deumping trash EVERYWHERE; people in this country would have a higher opinion of them. Was this ever a problem with European immigrants early in the 20th Century?

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-28   7:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah (#1)

That border down there needs to be secured. The problem is the massive migration of people. So, maybe what needs to be done is a creation of a number of chokepoints. If most of the border is made unpassable, then people would attempting to get into the US would have to go to a type of entry points. Now whether or not they should be let in there, or people would be selectively chosen, or people would be simply allowed in through those points-- I don't know.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-05-28   9:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: who knows what evil (#3)

Was this ever a problem with European immigrants early in the 20th Century?

Only because there were no plastic smiley-sacks from WalMart...or any other disposable plastic crap to throw away.

Lod  posted on  2006-05-28   9:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: who knows what evil, Flintlock, christine, Jethro Tull, bluegrass (#2)

Interesting to note that none of these articles mention that former Presidential candidate Alan Keyes was on hand working on the fence. There is a great picture of him raising a fence pole with Chris Simcox and others a la Iwo Jima on the net, but somehow the news bureaus 'can't seem to find it'.

Oh really?? Now this IS interesting.. Cal Hair (FR) is connected with the Minutemen, their spokesperson.. which to me is troublesome.. so Keyes being there is not surprising.. trust no one.. There was another thread that included info about Cal and the Minutemen.. I can't locate it.. cause I wanted to ping a couple of other people..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-28   10:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#6)

Connie is mentioned in many of the wire stories published today about this event.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-28   12:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: who knows what evil (#7)

Connie is mentioned in many of the wire stories published today about this event.

All quite interesting IMO.. opportunists???

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-28   12:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: who knows what evil (#2)

Interesting to note that none of these articles mention that former Presidential candidate Alan Keyes was on hand working on the fence. There is a great picture of him raising a fence pole with Chris Simcox and others a la Iwo Jima on the net, but somehow the news bureaus 'can't seem to find it'.

Could you give us a link to this photo? TIA.

DuQuoigne  posted on  2006-05-28   13:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#8)

All quite interesting IMO.. opportunists???

Probably...but at least the 'opportunists' are actually BUILDING a fence. As for Washington..?

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-28   15:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: DuQuoigne (#9)

I thought these were 'wire service' photos, but apparently a private individual took these. Here's the link to the photo posted at another forum. (Hope he doesn't mind.) Keyes is in the black 'cowboy' hat.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-28   15:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: who knows what evil (#10)

Probably...but at least the 'opportunists' are actually BUILDING a fence. As for Washington..?

well.. I guess.. As for Washington.. we know the answer to that one..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-28   15:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Zipporah (#12)

As for Washington.. we know the answer to that one..

Yes, we do.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-05-28   15:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: who knows what evil (#11)

Thanks.

DuQuoigne  posted on  2006-05-28   15:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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