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Title: Putin Is Paying the Price of His Never-Ending War
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://www.unz.com/proberts/putin- ... price-of-his-never-ending-war/
Published: Jun 24, 2023
Author: PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
Post Date: 2023-06-24 09:47:52 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 264
Comments: 4

Key points of Putin’s address to nation over PMC Wagner coup attempt

www.rt.com/russia/578601-...utin-address-wagner-coup/

Putin is responsible for this, because he has let a conflict continue for 16 months that should have ended in one week. But Putin wanted to avoid being labeled an aggressor and confined combat to the Russian Donbass. He got the label regardless, and created a situation of an ever-widening war that he has been fighting with a private military group who are tired of the no-win situation Putin has created by his pretense that it is a “limited military operation.”

I doubt Prigozhin intends a coup. Most likely it is a protest against the Russian military brass. The generals don’t like him, because he refuses to place himself and his forces under their command. As the Wagner Group is the principal military force Russia has fighting in Donbass, it is stupid for the Russian generals to foster bad relations with the commander of the troops doing the fighting. A question I have is whether Putin is being given honest briefings about Prigozhin’s intent or briefings designed to settle the generals’ score with Prigozhin. For Putin it is just a problem that needs to go away, and he might fail to learn from it.

The way Putin has been conducting this conflict has never made any sense. By refusing to use sufficient force to end the war, Putin has widened the war to the extent that Washington and NATO are involved, and he has lost the confidence of the Wagner Group commander and, for all I know, the Wagner troops.

How is it possible that Putin, the Kremlin, and the Russian military do not comprehend that wars must be quickly be won as their continuation offers endless opportunities for many mischiefs?

It is possible that there has been no coup attempt. The weak evidence suggests that it could be a staged event from outside to disrupt the Russian front lines or an inside staging to get rid of Prigozhin:

“Earlier in the day, footage and audio attributed to Wagner troops and Prigozhin surfaced online alleging that a ‘missile attack’ had been launched at a Wagner camp, and that the strike was ‘delivered from the rear, that is by forces of the Russian Defense Ministry.’ The voice attributed to Prigozhin appeared to call for the ouster of the Defense Ministry’s leadership. The footage and audio were immediately jumped on by Ukrainian and US state-funded media outlets, which have been reporting heavily on Prigozhin’s criticism of Russian generals in recent weeks.” sputnikglobe.com/20230623/russian-ministry-of-defense- denies-media-reports-of-strikes-on-wagner-positions-1111429344.html

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Putin did make mistakes but it was revealed recently that some stuff was going on behind the scenes, including negotiations with Ukraine, that played a role in Russia's retreating from Kyiv a few months into the war.

I wouldn't rule out that this missile strike was actually a HIMARS hit from Ukraine, perhaps strategically timed with the help of US/NATO intelligence to exploit internal strife within Russian ranks. If so, then as they say, all's fair in love and war. Obviously the west will portray this as the start of a Russian civil war but western propaganda can be relied upon to over embellish every negative event that happens to Russia.

Pinguinite  posted on  2023-06-24   11:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)

including negotiations with Ukraine, that played a role in Russia's retreating from Kyiv a few months into the war.

And this lack of tangible outcome is added to the empty Minsk I and Minsk II results and held up to Putin when asking, "How long do we do this Mr. Nice Guy shit?"

Wouldn't be surprised to see this enterprise pick up steam soon.

randge  posted on  2023-06-24   17:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#1)

all's fair in love and war

My love life has been on the rocks lately and a lot of that has to do with the meningitis.

But that didn't stop some guy from calling me on the home phone and telling me I was in the National Guard.

I said, "Nope."

Then he said, "Well then you worked for the National Guard."

I said, "Not at all. Where are you getting your information?"

When they get your name, they think they know everything about you. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2023-06-24   18:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: randge (#2)

Putin is an Orthodox Christian and despite the realities he has faced he has tackled them with Christian charity and restraint.

While I have no firm data what I am piecing together is a picture altogether different than that of the Fake Mockingbird Newz. I suspect that this show was orchestrated to stick a finger in Neville Blinken's eye and that Putin was well aware of what was occurring as the West/NATO offered Prigozhin Billions in bribes (which he will be allowed to keep), and Putin now has a better idea of what his adversaries were up to. Now he has an additional 25,000 troops in Belarus and Ziolensky is still peeing his pants (and Joe is shtting his).

Stay Tuned.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced evil is indistinguishable from stupidity. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2023-06-24   21:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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