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Title: HAPPENING: Wagner Is Apparently Staging a Coup…!
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://www.unz.com/aanglin/happeni ... -is-apparently-staging-a-coup/
Published: Jun 25, 2023
Author: ANDREW ANGLIN
Post Date: 2023-06-25 06:16:40 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 370
Comments: 9

(I’ll keep this post updated. I might start more posts, but I’ll link them here.)

5:45 AM EST

Well, Wagner is now in control of the Southern Command in Rostov. That is pretty clear.

This is the translation:

He says he’s going to Moscow. There are reports that there are Wagner forces moving on Moscow.

We’ll just have to wait and see.

It’s interesting that Putin didn’t mention Prigozhin by name in the speech, while Prigozhin has also avoided mentioning Putin.

It might just be that they both know the other is the other most popular person in the country.

The idea they are cooperating in 12th dimensional black hole portal chess, as many popular accounts are reporting, seems relatively far out at this point. But there being some kind of negotiation between Putin and Prigozhin seems like it could be on the table.

I don’t know. Who the hell knows. There aren’t really experts on this to look to, and I’ve got no idea what is going on. I know that as soon as I saw that video of Prigozhin yelling in front of the corpses, it looked to me like he was going to do a coup, and the same people who said that was just disinformation are now saying this whole current scene is disinformation.

But, it looks like we’ll have a better view of things in a few hours.

I shall keep thee abreast.

2:25 AM EST

Quite frankly, as soon as I saw that video of Prigozhin yelling in front of a pile of corpses, I said “this guy is planning a coup.”

You know, he’s half Jewish.

After that, I kept my eyes open, but it did seem like there was a chance that the whole thing was total theater designed to mess with the Ukrainians/Americans.

Now, it appears shit has gotten real.

Prigozhin has declared a coup, and ordered men to march toward Rostov, the Russian city closest to the former Ukraine border.

This video is being shared of Russian military allegedly in a shootout with Wagner in or near Rostov.

He is supposedly now in control of the command headquarters in Rostov, which is a major Russian military installation. I don’t understand how he would have just seized that, but okay.

There is video of him there, and he says he’s now in command. Apparently, no one is challenging him, despite the fact there is an arrest warrant for him.

Apparently – at least, as far as anyone can tell – Prigozhin’s agenda here is only to capture and hold the military base in Rostov and force Putin to make him Minister of Defense. He is not actually trying to overthrow the government.

To be clear, Prigozhin is the second most popular person in Russia, second only to Putin.

As of right now, as I write, Putin has just given a speech declaring Prigozhin an enemy of the state.

https://youtu.be/kTRHfzjNJHs

There are tanks on the streets of Moscow for the first time since the 1990s.

Preceding this, in the nighttime on Friday, Prigozhin accused the Russian Ministry of Defense of bombing his guys. There are no videos of this, and it’s been concluded that is obviously fake. It would not make any sense. If Putin wanted Prigozhin out, he would just be assassinated. And if the MoD bombed Wagner without Putin’s permission, the head of the MoD would get assassinated (or at least arrested).

He is reporting that, and the New York Times is reporting that – Russian media hasn’t said that.

I never publicly said that I was worried about a coup, because that did not seem appropriate. But several people can confirm I said this in private, including prominent people. I mean, obviously I would have thought that, because I have a very good sense.

However… I would not have thought it would happen like this. Wagner would need a bigger force, or at least a more strategic ability to strike the Kremlin and arrest the current government. There are scenarios I can see where that would have been possible some time in the next 18 months, but this thing they are doing now is just wild.

It seems to me that there is still a possibility that this is all fake, that it is designed in order to get the Ukraine to try to push. The Putin speech definitely makes that a lot less likely. I think most likely, this is really happening, and it is a pretty big problem.

I’m not sure if Putin can just make a deal with Prigozhin if he’s already killed Russian soldiers. I think that might be a point of no return. (But it is also not clear that happened.)

That said – how is it possible that Putin would not have a guy around Prigozhin ready to kill him if given the order? You’d think he’d have to have a guy in place, right? I would think that would be standard KGB procedure regardless, let alone after he’d made all those videos attacking the military, after I was sitting here thinking “that guy looks like he’s planning a coup” – right?

There is nothing clear right now, but the Russian media is reporting all of this, Putin is giving speeches, we have videos of shootings.

Prigozhin might be on drugs or drunk. I don’t understand why else he would move like this. In my view, previously, he did have a decent chance for some kind of march on the Kremlin, but there is no way he is going to march from Rostov with 20,000 men. I mean, he doesn’t have enough guys to fight the cops, and he’s not made any overtures towards the military or the cops to side with him against Putin.

He’s not even talking about Putin, except to say that Putin is being deceived.

My general thought here is that this is real, but that Putin is going to make a deal. It’s also possible Putin knew about this or planned it himself for some reason.

We’ll see.

I will keep you abreast.

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#1. To: Esso, StraitGate, Ada, Lod, TommyTheMadArtist, Pinguinite, Dakmar, titorite, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, FormerLurker (#0)

Not a coup. The Wagner forces were treated badly by Shoigu (MOD). He did not give them adequate artillery support even though they killed 72,000 Ukrainian soldiers, far more than the regular Russian military. The other day it kicked off when the Russian military fired at Wagner forces.

The President of Belarus negotiated a settlement. Shoigu and Gerasimov resigned. Prighozin went to live in Belarus. Wagner becomes part of the Russian army.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2023-06-25   6:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse (#1)

Wagner becomes part of the Russian army.

That would be a victory for Shoigu and the MOD.

Ada  posted on  2023-06-25   10:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#2)

Shoigu is supposed to resign.

Wagner is very good. They killed 72,000 Ukrainian soldiers.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2023-06-25   12:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Horse (#1)

MTG Hints US Government Could Be Behind Russia Coup Attempt

Ya Think?

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced evil is indistinguishable from stupidity. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2023-06-25   18:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#4)

Prigozhin should have learned from Norieaga, the CIA does not "have your back".

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2023-06-25   21:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Horse (#1) (Edited)

Prigozhin was born and raised in Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg) in the Soviet Union on 1 June 1961,[21] to Violetta Prigozhina (Russian: Виолетта Пригожина).[22][23][24] His father died early, and so his mother supported him and his sick grandmother by working at a local hospital.[25] His father and stepfather were of Jewish descent.

This whole coup attempt had a certain stench about it. Echoes of 1917.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2023-06-25   22:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Dakmar (#5)

Sure they do - and they can show the crosshairs to prove it.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced evil is indistinguishable from stupidity. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2023-06-25   22:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Dakmar, Horse (#6)

Prigozhin was born and raised in Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg) in the Soviet Union on 1 June 1961,[21] to Violetta Prigozhina (Russian: Виолетта Пригожина).[22][23][24] His father died early, and so his mother supported him and his sick grandmother by working at a local hospital.[25] His father and stepfather were of Jewish descent.

This whole coup attempt had a certain stench about it. Echoes of 1917.

I have no idea what's going on but started to post this yesterday...

I have no idea what it's all about, but read the latest at SOTN; there are other articles on it there as well.

What in the world just took place in Russia? Here’s what really happened!

PUTIN’S OPERATION WAGNER:
A Consummate Chessman’s Very Risky
But Necessary Black Op & Psyop

"...Yevgeny Prigozhin, a Khazarian double agent

Now this is where things get very interesting indeed.

While master chef Yevgeny Prigozhin may be a great cook, he’s not a chess player like the master chess players who populate Moscow’s GRU—Russian Military Intelligence.

WAGNER GROUP: A Creation of Russian Military Intelligence

Russian Military Intelligence always knew that Prigozhin was a Khazarian double agent.

However, the only way that Team Putin could ever accomplish these crucial denazification objectives, both in Ukraine and Russia, was to have a Nazi-at-heart be the frontman.

Enter one Yevgeny Prigozhin..."

stateofthenation.co/?p=172937

Honestly, I'm more concerned with another article at SOTN, just heartbreaking. I read it and the comments at halturner the other night.

Horse, I read you think them killing 72,000 Ukrainian "soldiers" is "good". What am I missing here?

I've read they are grabbing Ukrainian boys as young as 12 and putting a gun in their hands and on the front lines and they are being mowed down like sitting targets. I don't see this as good. They're innocent CHILDREN and men (for now...they plan to fight to the last Ukrainian...and no doubt Americans are next). I see it as genocide of the Ukrainian people. All of them. Who is going to provide for the everyday needs of what's left of that country? The farmers, the truckers, the shopkeepers and everyone else? Who is going to protect the women and children from the looters and rapists and murderers to follow?

The Deliberate Genocide Of Ukrainian Males Proceeds With All Deliberate Speed

READ HERE: Kiev Calls GENERAL Mobilization – ALL Males 18-65 Must enter military within 10 days

halturnerradioshow.com/in...r-military-within-10-days

I see this as the genocide of the Whites and Christians of Ukraine to make more room for the jews and one of their 'new jerusalems', and I'm terribly distraught about it. Rev. 20:7-10. Is THIS what my dad fought in the Battle of the Bulge for??? ( Abba, Daddy, SAVE THEM...no one else will. These governments you've allowed to rule over us are inhabited by demons from hell.)

From 2014:

"The Jewish Monsters who run Ukraine are carrying out genocide and killings throughout the country. They are turning Ukraine into a “Jewish Homeland” for the Khazars. This is what the Jews, Lenin and Trotsky, did to Russia in 1917."

www.texemarrs.com/082014/serpent_people_return.htm

www.renegadetribune.com/ukraine-is-the-new-heavenly-jerusalem-part-1-2/

www.renegadetribune.com/ukraine-is-the-new-heavenly-jerusalem-part-2-2/

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2023-06-26   13:43:15 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)

I have no idea what is really happening with this neocoup (faux coup....faup, fauxcoup?), but fifty-eight years of observing human behavior informs that a leader of a mercenary force just decides to sack Moscow because of what may have been a colossal blunder by Russian regulars.

Prigozhin would not have even dreamed about seizing power had not the "international community" assured him of the righteousness of their case, and his cut should the venture succeed.

Another fool dangled over the open pit of hell so the elites can test the water.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2023-06-26   18:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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