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Title: December 7, September 11 and May 25
Source: John W Lillpop
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Published: May 29, 2006
Author: JOHN W LILLPOP
Post Date: 2006-05-29 11:59:21 by alwaysontheright
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Views: 577
Comments: 102

December 7, September 11 and May 25

JOHN W LILLPOP

December 7 and September 11. Two tragic days in American history marred by attacks on our beloved homeland by cowardly foreign enemies.

May 25 now joins those dates in infamy, after the US Senate visited unimaginable horror upon We the People in the name of immigration reform.

Bombs were not dropped on Americans as was the case on December 7. Planes were not used as weapons of mass destruction against commercial landmarks and the Pentagon as on 9/11.

Nonetheless, the devastation inflicted by the US Senate upon the We the People was whithering.

In a spiritual sense, May 25 may actually represent a greater disaster for We the People than either Pearl Harbor or 9/11.

After all, each of the 100 men and women serving in the Senate took an oath to protect and defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

In other words, they are supposed to be on OUR side… we count on them to protect our interests.

But by a vote of 62-36, the US Senate said to hell with homeland security and American sovereignty. To hell with American language, borders and culture.

Most tragically, to hell with the rule of law and to hell with We the People.

Overall, 63% of the Senate voted to sell-out America in favor of Mexico.

Only Judas has staged a more blatantly evil betrayal.

Of the 42 Democrats who voted, 38 voted with Mexico, four with America.

In other words, 90% of Democrat senators are unconcerned about US homeland security, and could care less if America decays into a third-world sewer like Mexico.

The Democrats’ reward? 20 million new Democrats and the intoxicating lure of long-term political power.

On the Republican side of the aisle, of the 56 who voted, 24 sided with Mexico while 32 said OK To America.

In other words, 43% of GOP senators are more concerned with providing cheap labor for big business than with upholding the rule of law and protecting the homeland.

True, 57% of the GOP voted for America. But Republicans are expected to defend American interests against the ravages of liberalism and socialism.

Thus, 57% is abysmal.

To add bitter poison to the mix, a GOP senator reportedly made a last minute change which requires the US to consult with Mexico before erecting a border fence.

Consult with Mexico about securing US borders? Can you imagine?

That’s like conferring with Osama bin Laden prior to implementing airport security.

Or consulting with Iran’s goofy Ahmadinejad about US strategy for preventing the madman from blowing Israel into smithereens.

Still, despite the gut-wrenching let down, patriotic Americans can be grateful for the fact that the US House of Representatives must also act on any immigration legislation before it can be signed into law.

Thank God, the House is comprised of decent conservatives more commited to American security, sovereignty and culture than cheap labor.

For the record, details of the May 25 vote are given below:

YEAs ---62

Akaka (D-HI) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Bennett (R-UT) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Brownback (R-KS) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Craig (R-ID) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Domenici (R-NM) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Landrieu (D-LA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Menendez (D-NJ) Mikulski (D-MD) Murkowski (R-AK) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Obama (D-IL) Pryor (D-AR) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA) Wyden (D-OR) ------------------

NAYs ---36

Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Bond (R-MO) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Cornyn (R-TX) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Grassley (R-IA) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Kyl (R-AZ) Lott (R-MS) Nelson (D-NE) Roberts (R-KS) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Stabenow (D-MI) Sununu (R-NH) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) (1 image)

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#1. To: alwaysontheright (#0)

you make it sound like the republicans are trying to stop illegal immigration whereas democrats are not. but this a completely false picture.

In 1986 it was republicans who decided that we would not check payroll data as reported from the employers to keep the employers from hiring illegal immigrants. and it is this failure from 1986 that allowed the illegal aliens since then to come and be accepted.

even today it is republicans who choose that our policy be dysfunctional. any time they want to check the payroll data to see who is illegal they can. they choose not to.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-05-29   12:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: alwaysontheright (#0)

who was it that started the H1-b visa program? and the L-1 visa program. these were brought to us originally by republicans.

and out-right amnesty would be far better than the guest worker programs that most republicans want. the guest-worker programs are long-term formulas for turning the american population into serfs. flood the work-force with people who are compromised and can't switch jobs, give the employers a source of workers who are semi-slave indentured servants, that's what republicans want.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-05-29   12:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Red Jones (#2)

who was it that started the H1-b visa program? and the L-1 visa program. these were brought to us originally by republicans.

and out-right amnesty would be far better than the guest worker programs that most republicans want. the guest-worker programs are long-term formulas for turning the american population into serfs. flood the work-force with people who are compromised and can't switch jobs, give the employers a source of workers who are semi-slave indentured servants, that's what republicans want.

tell it like it is!

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-29   13:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Red Jones (#1)

you make it sound like the republicans are trying to stop illegal immigration

What I said, fairly clearly, is that if there is ANY CHANCE of stopping amnesty, it will come from the GOP house. Can you dispute that?

Democrats are almost unamious in favor of amnesty.

My words:

True, 57% of the GOP voted for America. But Republicans are expected to defend American interests against the ravages of liberalism and socialism.

Thus, 57% is abysmal.

To add bitter poison to the mix, a GOP senator reportedly made a last minute change which requires the US to consult with Mexico before erecting a border fence.

Still, despite the gut-wrenching let down, patriotic Americans can be grateful for the fact that the US House of Representatives must also act on any immigration legislation before it can be signed into law.

Thank God, the House is comprised of decent conservatives more commited to American security, sovereignty and culture than cheap labor.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   13:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#3)

and out-right amnesty would be far better

THAT is the Democrat line!

The question is better for who?

The Democrat party, no longer able to win elections by appealing to real Americans?

The Catholic church, desperate for peasants who have never even heard of the Da Vinci Code?

Labor Unions, desperate for new, brain-dead fools to steal from?

Amnesty is THE LIBERAL agenda, mates!

Which is not to say that our stupid president and the RINOs behind him are any better!

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   13:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: alwaysontheright (#4)

democrats - republicans - they're both worthless.

it is pretty pitiful that your only defense of republicans is to point at democrats.

here's an example of how out-of-whack both parties are with the will of the americans. Opinion polls have been showing for a year or so that the percentage of americans who want to bring the troops home has been hovering over the last year at the 55-60% level. they had a vote in congress to see who wanted an orderly withdrawal from Iraq and only 1% of the House of representatives voted to withdraw the troops. Among the general population it is 60% who say bring em home, but among congress it is 1%. this demonstrates very clearly that our whole system of popular representation of the people in government is completely broken.

both democrats & republicans oppose the americans on immigration policy and on many other policies.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-05-29   13:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: alwaysontheright (#5)

THAT is the Democrat line!

The question is better for who?

The Democrat party, no longer able to win elections by appealing to real Americans?

The Catholic church, desperate for peasants who have never even heard of the Da Vinci Code?

Labor Unions, desperate for new, brain-dead fools to steal from?

Amnesty is THE LIBERAL agenda, mates!

Which is not to say that our stupid president and the RINOs behind him are any better!

ROFLMAO!! On a mission from 'god'.. ??? Still worshipping the RNC?? Hmm it's Memorial Day?? Double or triple time today :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-29   13:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: alwaysontheright (#5)

out-right amnesty would be far better than the guest worker programs that most republicans want. the guest-worker programs are long-term formulas for turning the american population into serfs. flood the work-force with people who are compromised and can't switch jobs, give the employers a source of workers who are semi-slave indentured servants, that's what republicans want.

Don't remove from context, that's dishonest.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-29   13:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Red Jones (#6)

it is pretty pitiful that your only defense of republicans

Red: The ONLY politicans I defend are those who vote for America---not Mexico.

It just happens that most of those have a little R next to their names.

But to ALL RINOs, the idiot-in-chief and Democrats who are for amnesty, I say: Go to the hot place for ever

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   13:23:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#8)

than the guest worker programs that most republicans want.

That is the dishonest statement, Robin

Again, the Vote on the floor of the Senate re the amnesty bill:

For Amnesty:

Democrats= 38 of 42 voting or 90%

GOP= 24 of 56 voting or 43%

MOST Republicans---57% do NOT want amnesty.

Again: If amnesty is to be stopped, it will be because of the GOP House.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   13:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: alwaysontheright (#10)

UH.. those figures may apply to the constituency but certainly NOT the leadership.. now WHOSE dishonest?? Such a shill you are..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-29   13:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#8)

Don't remove from context, that's dishonest.

How about HR 4437, Robin? Pushed through the House by the GOP with NO Guest Worker program.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   13:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Zipporah (#7)

Still worshipping the RNC??

Still in love with truth----in spite of the obvious hatred for same by the left.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   13:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: alwaysontheright (#10)

MOST Republicans---57% do NOT want amnesty.

Let's not forget that the Republicans control the agenda completely -- 100%. It would have been impossible for the Democrats to start the amnesty program.

Let's not forget that the Republicans proposed the amnesty bill in the first place. They issue didn't even exist until Bush started the ball rolling.

Let's not forget that because the Republicans control the agenda, they could stop the amnesty plan tomorrow.

Let's not forget that Bush could stop the amnesty plan today in one press conference. And please, have the decency not to try and tell us the Clinton is controlling Bush with a secret mind control ray or something equally silly.

Also, let's not forget that it was the Republicans under Reagan that gave us the last amnesty plan.

Finally, let us not forget that it is only moronic dupes like you who believe the Republicans are not the responsible party here.

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   13:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Zipporah (#11)

UH.. those figures may apply to the constituency but certainly NOT the leadership

So who voted, Zipp? Just the leadership?

Perhaps you failed to notice, but on the Demo side, both the leadership AND the average bloke voted for Mexico!

38 out of 42 or 90%!

Not good, Zipp. Not good.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   13:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: alwaysontheright (#12)

How about HR 4437, Robin? Pushed through the House by the GOP with NO Guest Worker program.

That was just to keep dupes like you shilling for them.

The Senate version is really different isn't it.

.

...  posted on  2006-05-29   13:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: alwaysontheright (#13)

Still in love with truth----in spite of the obvious hatred for same by the left.

You're not disillusioned whatsoever.. two choices here .. either your totally looney toons or paid.. OR perhaps a combination of the two.. Betcha you've removed all the mirrors from your house..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-29   13:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: alwaysontheright (#10)

than the guest worker programs that most republicans want.

That is the dishonest statement, Robin

Red's statement stands true.

The GOP says NO to amnesty, which is good, BUT they voted YES to guest worker, which is very bad.

http://www.numbersusa.org/hottopic/2454.html

http://www.numbersusa.com/PDFs/SensenbrennerSpecterMcCainFristComparison.pdf

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-29   13:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: ... (#14)

Are you too stupid to understand that 57% does not constitute MOST? Are you that brain-dead---or brain-washed?

As to our idiot-in-chief AND every RINO that supports him, and the 90% of Democrats that voted for Mexico: To hades with you all! All take old --- with you!

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   13:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: alwaysontheright (#15)

So who voted, Zipp? Just the leadership?

Perhaps you failed to notice, but on the Demo side, both the leadership AND the average bloke voted for Mexico!

38 out of 42 or 90%!

Not good, Zipp. Not good.

It's all bulls**t and you know it.. you may as well quit trying it here.. youre getting nowhere with this crap.. We've all been there .. 99% of us here are escapees from FR.. we've heard the crap before.. divide and conquer.. .. how often does the RNC send you talking points anyway? Probably daily now that Bush's numbers are in the s**tter.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-29   13:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Zipporah (#20)

Unable to answer the question, Zip? Now its all bu****?

Why not just admit that you have been fooled by the leftist media and the liberal morons?

BTW, when you sober up or run out of drugs, look up HR 4437 AND UN 1441. <

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   13:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: alwaysontheright (#12)

How about HR 4437, Robin? Pushed through the House by the GOP with NO Guest Worker program.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HR4437

That's good, but they are not done.

http://www.numbersusa.org/hottopic/2454.html

Check them all.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-29   13:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#18)

YES to guest worker

Really?

What bill was that? Liberalslie 209?

READ HR 4437 and please cite the portion that speaks to guest worker.

BTW, amnesty is 10000000 times worse than Guest Worker!

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   13:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: alwaysontheright (#21)

Unable to answer the question, Zip? Now its all bu****?

Why not just admit that you have been fooled by the leftist media and the liberal morons?

BTW, when you sober up or run out of drugs, look up HR 4437 AND UN 1441. <

ALRIGHTY!! Knock it off now.. - > "BTW, when you sober up or run out of drugs:

Keep this shit up and you'll be out the door in less than 30 seconds.. take this as your first and ONLY warning..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-29   13:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: alwaysontheright (#19)

Are you too stupid to understand that 57% does not constitute MOST? Are you that brain-dead---or brain-washed?

We know you are brain dead and brain washed.

You are trying to tell us: (1) The Republicans didn't start this, and (2) The Republicans are not the ones keeping this alive.

This is a lie. But you know that.

The Republicans gave us the illegal alien amnesty drive. They control the agenda. They gave it life.

The Repbulicans are now keeping the illegal alien amnesty issue alive. They could kill it today if they wanted to.

So who cares if a few unneeded votes sit it out in order to fool simple minded tools and goobers like yourself? They will need you again soon enough, so they will toss this bone to you now. You are easy to manipulate. See how you fell for this one?

.

...  posted on  2006-05-29   13:55:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: alwaysontheright (#0)

  This Republican administration and Congress are the most liberal, progressive, one world government, UN loving socialists we as a nation have ever seen. The Republican party hates the Bill Of Rights and the Constitution.

  The REPS along with the DEMS are nothing but treasonous criminal traitors. You are not going to get any "left"/"right" debate here, because the two party system is a joke. I proudly state that I haven`t voted for either party since "92".

   You are a troll. You`re stay here will be brief.

   MJ

Kamala  posted on  2006-05-29   13:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: alwaysontheright (#23)

HR4437 is not the only bill pending. Many attempts were made to add guest worker but they were shot down.

Here's liberal Boxer:

"There are 3.6 million workers in construction with an average wage of $18.21," Boxer said. "I meet with my working people in California. They're fighting hard for these jobs, they want more of these jobs, not less of these jobs, and the last thing they want is a guest worker program that is going to provide a big pool of workers who will get far less than this amount and take jobs away from my people."

"There is nothing temporary about this guest worker program," agreed Sessions, saying the bill offers new migrants -- as well as most of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants already in the country -- a path to citizenship, leading to extraordinary new numbers of blue-collar migrants.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-29   13:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: alwaysontheright (#21)

BTW, when you sober up or run out of drugs, look up HR 4437 AND UN 1441.

hi kook!! how long are you going to last on a serious forum? you have to use things like facts here. stuff you don't like and makes you look bad.

and when are you going to start spamming the BN with your silly pictures? how is that going to go over?

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-05-29   14:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: robin (#27)

Great! Except for the fact that liberal Boxer voted FOR MEXICO in the Senate and Sessions voted for the US.

Have you read HR 4437? Please point out exact GW provisions in that bill-- which was passed by the House in December.

BTW, you should also refer to an amnedment by liberal Diane Feinstein that would have conferred an 'orange card' on all 20 million illegals here.

Amnesty is a liberal ideal!

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Morgana le Fay, PnbC (#28)

hey, welcome Morgana!

christine  posted on  2006-05-29   14:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: alwaysontheright (#23)

They want to give them amnesty that leads to citizenship. And the Senate bill includes a guest worker plan.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=accbIP1dU1ys&refer=us

``I know the politics are out there,'' Frist, from Tennessee, said on Fox News Sunday. ``It's not politically popular.'' Yet he urged negotiations to move forward even though the Senate's version of the legislation, which contains a guest worker program leading to citizenship, is ``not perfect.''

Most Republicans who face stiff competition in the November House elections oppose legislation that would allow illegal immigrants to become citizens because it might be seen as rewarding unlawful behavior, the Washington Post reported today, citing interviews with about half of the 40 most vulnerable congressman.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-29   14:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: alwaysontheright (#29)

You better read the legislation that passed the Senate, I posted a Bloomberg link.

The GOP is fighting. They are giving them amnesty with possibly a path to citizenship and it includes a guest worker program.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-05-29   14:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Kamala (#26)

You are a troll. You`re stay here will be brief.

You are a brilliant genius. There--now we are both liars!

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: alwaysontheright (#0)

Everyone should know right now that Amnesty isn't about making these people legal, it's about making them TAXPAYERS.

TAXPAYERS, NOTHING MORE.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-29   14:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: robin (#32)

You better read the legislation that passed the Senate, I posted a Bloomberg link.

The GOP voted as folows on that bill:

Yes- 24 or 43%

No- 32 or 57%

The Democrats supported the bill 28 out of 32 90%

Have you read HR 4437? Please quote chapter and verse where GW is provided for.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: alwaysontheright (#29)

Amnesty is a liberal ideal!

Proposed by the GOP and kept alive by the GOP.

The Democrats have no control over the agenda. If the GOP nixes it, it is dead.

But this is also the way it worked back in 1983 with Reagan. The Republicans pushed through illegal alien amnesty while the people weren't looking. Under Reagan however, the GOP promised to enforce employer sanctions. alwaysontheright and the rest of the mindless goobers lapped this up with a spoon.

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#34)

TAXPAYERS, NOTHING MORE.

Yep. Confers no rights to any benefits or public services, right?

So why in the hell do they have to be citizens to pay taxes???????

You are supposed to pay taxes on money you earn here----citizen or not!

And why do you suppose illegals are so anxious to become citizens----they love taxes?

You ARE a Democrat!

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: alwaysontheright (#33)

You are a brilliant genius. There--now we are both liars!

you wouldn't seem like such a kook if you did something besides dumb insults. just trying to help you here.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-05-29   14:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: ... (#36)

Proposed by the GOP and kept alive by the GOP.

So, why did 90% of Democrats vote YES?

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: alwaysontheright (#37)

You ARE a Democrat!

just because he is not a kook like you doesn't mean he is a Democrat.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-05-29   14:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: alwaysontheright (#37)

Shut the fuck up.

You have this notion that The Democrats and Republicans are any different. GET A FUCKING CLUE.

They're both heads of the same goddamned hydra.

You have this idea that Illegals WANT to become American Citizens, which is a total fucking farce. They DON'T. They want America to become Mexico.

If you make these people legal, the government can tax these people into the ground, not to mention TAX THE HELL OUT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HIRE THEM. It's about revenue generation, nothing more.

The ONLY reason they would want to become citizens, is if they make it mandatory to be a citizen to get on the public dole, or have their birthing of their anchor children paid for by Uncle Sam.

You're not only a fucking moron, you're retarded. Which I guess means you can't help it.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-29   14:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: alwaysontheright (#39)

Proposed by the GOP and kept alive by the GOP.

So, why did 90% of Democrats vote YES?

Ahhhhhh. I see the desperate dupe is down to red herrings now.

90% of the Democrats voted yes because the GOP put the issue on the table for them and made it possible for them to do so.

Comprende?

The Democrats do not control the agenda. They could never do this. Only the Republicans have the power to get this up for a vote. And the Republicans did this.

Only goobers like you can't see (1) who started this mess and (2) who is keeping it alive => The GOP>

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: alwaysontheright (#0)

December 7 and September 11. Two tragic days in American history marred by attacks on our beloved homeland by cowardly foreign enemies.

Small bit of trivia: Hawaii was not a state in 1941, just a US territory.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-29   14:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#41)

They're both heads of the same goddamned hydra.

Perfect analogy.. !!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-29   14:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Zipporah (#24)

take this as your first and ONLY warning..

Hit a RAW nerve, did we?

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Neil McIver (#43)

Small bit of trivia: Hawaii was not a state in 1941, just a US territory.

Correct you are. I did not say that it was. The point is that Americans were attacked by a foreign enemy---and that is a fact.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: alwaysontheright (#45)

Hit a RAW nerve, did we?

Nope.. not at all.. you're nothing more than a troll.. I shouldnt expect anything else from you.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-29   14:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#41)

Shut the fuck up

What part of free speech drives you mad?

Prefer a forum in German?

YOU shut up, eff or not.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Zipporah (#47)

I shouldnt expect anything else from you.

Good. I accept your apology! Sin no more!

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: alwaysontheright (#45)

Hit a RAW nerve, did we?

suicidal kooks somehow are not as bad as regular kooks. your stock just went up a notch in my book.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-05-29   14:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: alwaysontheright (#48)

Oh that's right, Freedom of speech gives you the right to be a dumb fucking jackass.

This is exactly why it's illegal in this country for cousins to marry. I guess your parents must have been some real outlaws there.

What a fucking tard.

I swear to God, just when I think I see the dumbest prick on the web, there's always someone new to take over the mantle.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-29   14:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: alwaysontheright (#49)

Good. I accept your apology! Sin no more!

tick. tock. tick. tock. tick. tock.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-05-29   14:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#51)

I swear to God, just when I think I see the dumbest prick on the web, there's always someone new to take over the mantle.

LOL :):):):)

christine  posted on  2006-05-29   14:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#51)

I swear to God, just when I think I see the dumbest prick on the web, there's always someone new to take over the mantle.

ROFL!!

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-05-29   14:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: alwaysontheright (#46)

Correct you are. I did not say that it was.

The author implied Hawaii was a state with the phrase "attacks on our beloved homeland".

Of course "Homeland" was not used to describe the USA until Bush created the DHS. I find the term quite irritating as it invokes nazi-like themes to me. I hated it when I first heard it, and still do.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-29   14:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: All (#48)

To tommythemad: Think dems and Republicans are the same?

Homework assignment:

See below the vote on the senate amnesty bill. The yes votes, that is.

Your task: Determine which party supported amnesty most? Which party voted most heavily in favor of amnesty?

Do not use a calculator---just your wicked math skills and whiz logic. GO! You have five days!

YEAs ---62

Akaka (D-HI) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Bennett (R-UT) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D- NM) Boxer (D-CA) Brownback (R-KS) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Craig (R-ID) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Domenici (R-NM) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Harkin (D- IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Landrieu (D-LA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Menendez (D-NJ) Mikulski (D-MD) Murkowski (R-AK) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Obama (D-IL) Pryor (D-AR) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA) Wyden (D-OR) ------------------

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: alwaysontheright (#56)

Which party voted most heavily in favor of amnesty?

Three relevant questions:

1. Which party started this? The GOP.

2. Which party is keeping it alive? The GOP.

3. Which party allows it's members up for re-election to bag out of the vote in order to keep goobers like alwaysontheright lapping up shit? The GOP.

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: alwaysontheright (#56)

The Democrats don't set the agenda dumbass.

They just vote on what the Republicans put in front of them.

But you knew this didn't you.

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Neil McIver (#55)

I hated it when I first heard it, and still do.

Well, as the author of the referenced piece, let me apologize to you on behalf of GW Bush.

I could have said the territory, soon-to-be-state, and the states of New York and Pennsylvania as well as Washington DC.

Somehow, homeland seemed less messy.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: alwaysontheright (#56)

Awwwwww He thinks that Democrats and Republicans are adversaries.

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH

Jesus Christ could come down from heaven and say to this guy, Dude... It's all a big lie, and he'd still go right on believing that the Dems and Pubs are two different parties, wanting two different things.

I guess he's going to be okay with Hillary running things in 2008. Just like he'll be okay with George Bush running things in 2016.

Again... It all goes back to bad parenting and public schools. You can lead a moron to knowledge but you can't make them think.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-29   14:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#51)

I swear to God, just when I think I see the dumbest prick on the web, there's always someone new to take over the mantle.

Two suggestions: Next time you see the dumbest ANYTHING, ANYWHERE just grab the nearest mirror and see the REAL all time dumbest!

#2: Do not swear to God. He may make you even dumber---that would be cruel and unusual, punishmnent. But do not risk it!

Too bad English is such a battle for you---forces you to swear---shame.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: alwaysontheright (#61)

Here's some leftists, go get 'em you Department of Foodland Security nut.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-29   14:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#60)

Again... It all goes back to bad parenting and public schools

In your case, it has nothing to do with parenting or schools. Your DNA...your genetic code....is flawed.

You be a moron by Intelligent Design, mate!

Perhaps you should swear to God---he made you the mess you are.

Savvy?

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: alwaysontheright (#56)

it ain't gonna fly here, shillboy. we all know who's been in charge the last 6 years.

christine  posted on  2006-05-29   14:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: alwaysontheright (#63)

"Savvy"? You been into the rotgut again?

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-29   14:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: alwaysontheright (#59)

Well, as the author of the referenced piece, let me apologize to you on behalf of GW Bush.

I didn't realize you were the author.

But apologies on behalf of Bush aren't accepted by me. I think Bush is a war monger. He loves having power to kill. He's a very dangerous man. Many tens of thousands, perhaps numbering well into the 6 digits, are dead because of him that would otherwise be alive today.

Somehow, homeland seemed less messy.

That's because for someone who feels messing with the whole world is his mandate, a separate term needed to be created to describe the limited area that is supposed to be his only true concern. If he was only concerned about the 50 states, he wouldn't have needed to create the term "Homeland", would he, as everyone would understand that the "Department of Security" would only apply to the USA.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-05-29   14:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: alwaysontheright (#63)

In your case, it has nothing to do with parenting or schools. Your DNA...your genetic code....is flawed.

Down to GOP style personal insults again? Not doing very well are you.

Why don't you question his patriotism? Isn't that what shills like you did before the war started? Why did you quit?

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#51)

Oh that's right, Freedom of speech gives you the right to be a dumb fucking jackass

At least I have an option---with your dumb gene, being a dumb whatever is inevitable.

Its not your fault---you were born that way.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: alwaysontheright (#56)

See below the vote on the senate amnesty bill. The yes votes, that is.

Hey tool.

Why don't you just tell us that Clinton has been running the country for the past six years? And that the Congress and the Senate have been in the hands of the Democrats.

This isn't true, but when did that stop you?

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: alwaysontheright (#68)

At least I have an option---with your dumb gene, being a dumb whatever is inevitable.

If you are going to be an ignorant, obnoxious moron -- why not just call him a fuckhead?

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:45:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Neil McIver (#66)

That's because for someone who feels messing with the whole world is his mandate, a separate term needed to be created to describe the limited area that is supposed to be his only true concern.

Actually, I wish he would wake up and defend the 50 states. Rather than working for Mexico.

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: alwaysontheright (#68)

ts not your fault---you were born that way.

I see your inner child is in control of your mouth.

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Dakmar (#65)

"Savvy"? You been into the rotgut again?

You a pirate?

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: alwaysontheright (#71)

Actually, I wish he would wake up and defend the 50 states.

Call him a fucker. Isn't that what morons like you do when confronted with facts? See your posts above.

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: alwaysontheright (#73)

You a pirate?

No, but you are a twerp.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-29   14:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: alwaysontheright (#68)

Its not your fault---you were born that way.

You can't operate on any level above that of the base personal insult. That is why people here consider you to be a joke and are now having fun with you.

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: christine (#64)

it ain't gonna fly here, shillboy. we all know who's been in charge the last 6 years.

I bet there was a point to your post? You just forgot the punch line, right?

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   14:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: alwaysontheright (#73)

You a pirate?

Real debate is sort of hard on you isn't it.

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: alwaysontheright (#77)

The GOP

badumpum

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-29   14:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: alwaysontheright (#77)

I bet there was a point to your post? You just forgot the punch line, right?

Yes, and since you are too dumb to see it, I will explain it for you.

She isn't fooled by your silly tap dance trying to blame the Democrats for the GOP agenda. No one is.

Is that beter?

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: ... (#78)

What's spooky is he actually thinks he's being clever, it's like watching deliverance in reverse.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-29   14:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Dakmar (#81)

What's spooky is he actually thinks he's being clever, it's like watching deliverance in reverse.

I noticed that. Watch what happens next. When his ass gets beat raw, he will announce how smart and clever he is and then go run and hide. Everything from that point forward with be hit and run. He will try to take his revenge by being an obnoxious pest.

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   14:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: alwaysontheright (#61)

I lose more IQ points taking a dump than you'll ever have in your life time.

Please... I swear because I can't find words foul enough to describe the crime against nature your idiocy is.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-29   14:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: ... (#82)

I'm expecting another barrage of silly pictures first, but you've otherwise nailed his m.o.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-05-29   15:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Dakmar (#84)

I'm expecting another barrage of silly pictures first, but you've otherwise nailed his m.o.

You're right. I forgot the pictures.

Then, for weeks to come, we will see dumb pictures in the BN everytime a story gets posted that does not boost the GOP.

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   15:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#83)

You just gotta love the Extra Chromosome Club.

"Bomb De-Fusing For Dummies, Chapter 1, Wiring: Red Before Yellow Kills A Fellow."

orangedog  posted on  2006-05-29   15:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#83)

I lose more IQ points taking a dump than you'll ever have in your life time.

You must have terminal 'trots' since birth!

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   15:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: alwaysontheright (#87)

You must have terminal 'trots' since birth!

Do you actually think you are being clever?

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...  posted on  2006-05-29   15:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#83)

Please... I swear because I can't find words foul enough to describe the crime against nature your idiocy is.

Really? A man of such great wisdom and brilliance is uanble to conjure words no more sophisticated than a ghetto pig? LOL

LOL LOL LOL

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   15:34:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: All (#87)

You must have terminal 'trots' since birth!

Terminal trots! Perfect way to describe the IQ of the madwhatever

alwaysontheright  posted on  2006-05-29   15:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: alwaysontheright, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#90)

You're killing me.

Seriously, I haven't laughed at a poster on this forum like this in a year or more. So, who put you up to coming to this forum to raise some cain? I'm wondering what year of High School you're in. I'm betting... Junior.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-29   18:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: christine (#53)

Alwaysontheright is a disruptor. He's on several threads doing the exact same thing. Taking the discussion to the toilet with his idiocy and demeanor.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-05-29   18:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Morgana le Fay (#28)

Great to see you here Morgana. With PL gone and my having closed my account at LF I'm glad to see you have been able to come over here.

Out FOXed

Pirates And Emperors

PnbC  posted on  2006-05-30   1:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: alwaysontheright (#48)

What part of free speech drives you mad?

Free speech doesn't drive him mad, stupidity does and you're like the red cape in front of a bull...

"To wield onself -- to use oneself as a tool in one's own hand -- and so to make or break that which no one else can build or ruin -- THAT is the greatest pleasure known to man! To one who has felt the chisel in his hand and set free the angel prisoned in the marble block, or to one who has felt sword in hand and set homeless the soul that a moment before lived in the body of his mortal enemy -- to those both come alike the taste of that rare food spread only for demons or for gods." -- Gordon R. Dickson, "Soldier Ask Not"

Axenolith  posted on  2006-05-30   2:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: ... (#57)

1. Which party started this? The GOP.

2. Which party is keeping it alive? The GOP.

3. Which party allows it's members up for re-election to bag out of the vote in order to keep goobers like alwaysontheright lapping up shit? The GOP.

Your lips to Gods ears ...'s

"To wield onself -- to use oneself as a tool in one's own hand -- and so to make or break that which no one else can build or ruin -- THAT is the greatest pleasure known to man! To one who has felt the chisel in his hand and set free the angel prisoned in the marble block, or to one who has felt sword in hand and set homeless the soul that a moment before lived in the body of his mortal enemy -- to those both come alike the taste of that rare food spread only for demons or for gods." -- Gordon R. Dickson, "Soldier Ask Not"

Axenolith  posted on  2006-05-30   2:38:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: all (#0)

I don't get why everyone is attacking alwaysontheright.

I don't see anything that leads me to believe he/she is a troll. Take a deep breath, count to ten, and reread his post. lol

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-05-30   2:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: alwaysontheright (#61)

Two suggestions: Next time you see the dumbest ANYTHING, ANYWHERE just grab the nearest mirror and see the REAL all time dumbest!

Sweet Mo G, that is the LAMEST retort of near all time. Are you posting from an AOL account that you mined with a CC# generator?

Dude, you are making the limpometer aspect of the Lameness density meter peg new low levels...

You just suck, that's all there is to it. For the love of God man, put down the round nose scissors and the Pritt Glue Stick and put up a freakin' fight for petes sake.

"To wield onself -- to use oneself as a tool in one's own hand -- and so to make or break that which no one else can build or ruin -- THAT is the greatest pleasure known to man! To one who has felt the chisel in his hand and set free the angel prisoned in the marble block, or to one who has felt sword in hand and set homeless the soul that a moment before lived in the body of his mortal enemy -- to those both come alike the taste of that rare food spread only for demons or for gods." -- Gordon R. Dickson, "Soldier Ask Not"

Axenolith  posted on  2006-05-30   2:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Critter (#96)

I don't get why everyone is attacking alwaysontheright.

It's because he believes the R's will get us out of this mess with some type of crafted legislation when all they really need to do is enforce existing law. The legislative dog and pony show is just bullshit to keep the lever pullers happy...

"To wield onself -- to use oneself as a tool in one's own hand -- and so to make or break that which no one else can build or ruin -- THAT is the greatest pleasure known to man! To one who has felt the chisel in his hand and set free the angel prisoned in the marble block, or to one who has felt sword in hand and set homeless the soul that a moment before lived in the body of his mortal enemy -- to those both come alike the taste of that rare food spread only for demons or for gods." -- Gordon R. Dickson, "Soldier Ask Not"

Axenolith  posted on  2006-05-30   2:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#92)

Alwaysontheright is a disruptor. He's on several threads doing the exact same thing. Taking the discussion to the toilet with his idiocy and demeanor.

Cheer up. You are seeing the good side of the guy now.

Did you ever see him in action on PL? After he gets his butt whooped a few times he will go for the straight ALS style disruption tactics. Spamming threads and posting garbage vanities to push articles he disagrees with down the BN and Latest Comments bar. He will post the same vanity ten or twelve times.

Fun and Happy Balls  posted on  2006-05-30   10:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: PnbC (#93)

hi P! nice to see you again too. i won't be returning to that other forum either. i'm glad to be here. christine, Zipporah, and Jethro are very gracious hosts. :)

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-05-30   10:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: christine, Zipporah, Jethro Tull (#100)

i should have pinged you to my post to PnbC.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-05-30   10:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: PnbC (#93)

With PL gone and my having closed my account at LF I'm glad to see you have been able to come over here.

.. Great to see you.. !!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-05-30   18:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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