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Title: December 7, September 11 and May 25
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John W Lillpop
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Published: May 29, 2006
Author: JOHN W LILLPOP
Post Date: 2006-05-29 11:59:21 by alwaysontheright
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December 7, September 11 and May 25 JOHN W LILLPOP December 7 and September 11. Two tragic days in American history marred by attacks on our beloved homeland by cowardly foreign enemies. May 25 now joins those dates in infamy, after the US Senate visited unimaginable horror upon We the People in the name of immigration reform. Bombs were not dropped on Americans as was the case on December 7. Planes were not used as weapons of mass destruction against commercial landmarks and the Pentagon as on 9/11. Nonetheless, the devastation inflicted by the US Senate upon the We the People was whithering. In a spiritual sense, May 25 may actually represent a greater disaster for We the People than either Pearl Harbor or 9/11. After all, each of the 100 men and women serving in the Senate took an oath to protect and defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. In other words, they are supposed to be on OUR side… we count on them to protect our interests. But by a vote of 62-36, the US Senate said to hell with homeland security and American sovereignty. To hell with American language, borders and culture. Most tragically, to hell with the rule of law and to hell with We the People. Overall, 63% of the Senate voted to sell-out America in favor of Mexico. Only Judas has staged a more blatantly evil betrayal. Of the 42 Democrats who voted, 38 voted with Mexico, four with America. In other words, 90% of Democrat senators are unconcerned about US homeland security, and could care less if America decays into a third-world sewer like Mexico. The Democrats’ reward? 20 million new Democrats and the intoxicating lure of long-term political power. On the Republican side of the aisle, of the 56 who voted, 24 sided with Mexico while 32 said OK To America. In other words, 43% of GOP senators are more concerned with providing cheap labor for big business than with upholding the rule of law and protecting the homeland. True, 57% of the GOP voted for America. But Republicans are expected to defend American interests against the ravages of liberalism and socialism. Thus, 57% is abysmal. To add bitter poison to the mix, a GOP senator reportedly made a last minute change which requires the US to consult with Mexico before erecting a border fence. Consult with Mexico about securing US borders? Can you imagine? That’s like conferring with Osama bin Laden prior to implementing airport security. Or consulting with Iran’s goofy Ahmadinejad about US strategy for preventing the madman from blowing Israel into smithereens. Still, despite the gut-wrenching let down, patriotic Americans can be grateful for the fact that the US House of Representatives must also act on any immigration legislation before it can be signed into law. Thank God, the House is comprised of decent conservatives more commited to American security, sovereignty and culture than cheap labor. For the record, details of the May 25 vote are given below: YEAs ---62 Akaka (D-HI) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Bennett (R-UT) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Brownback (R-KS) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Craig (R-ID) Dayton (D-MN) DeWine (R-OH) Dodd (D-CT) Domenici (R-NM) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Landrieu (D-LA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Menendez (D-NJ) Mikulski (D-MD) Murkowski (R-AK) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Obama (D-IL) Pryor (D-AR) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA) Wyden (D-OR) ------------------ NAYs ---36 Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Bond (R-MO) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Cornyn (R-TX) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Grassley (R-IA) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Kyl (R-AZ) Lott (R-MS) Nelson (D-NE) Roberts (R-KS) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Stabenow (D-MI) Sununu (R-NH) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA)
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#1. To: alwaysontheright (#0)
you make it sound like the republicans are trying to stop illegal immigration whereas democrats are not. but this a completely false picture. In 1986 it was republicans who decided that we would not check payroll data as reported from the employers to keep the employers from hiring illegal immigrants. and it is this failure from 1986 that allowed the illegal aliens since then to come and be accepted. even today it is republicans who choose that our policy be dysfunctional. any time they want to check the payroll data to see who is illegal they can. they choose not to.
who was it that started the H1-b visa program? and the L-1 visa program. these were brought to us originally by republicans. and out-right amnesty would be far better than the guest worker programs that most republicans want. the guest-worker programs are long-term formulas for turning the american population into serfs. flood the work-force with people who are compromised and can't switch jobs, give the employers a source of workers who are semi-slave indentured servants, that's what republicans want.
and out-right amnesty would be far better than the guest worker programs that most republicans want. the guest-worker programs are long-term formulas for turning the american population into serfs. flood the work-force with people who are compromised and can't switch jobs, give the employers a source of workers who are semi-slave indentured servants, that's what republicans want. tell it like it is!
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison
What I said, fairly clearly, is that if there is ANY CHANCE of stopping amnesty, it will come from the GOP house. Can you dispute that? Democrats are almost unamious in favor of amnesty. My words: True, 57% of the GOP voted for America. But Republicans are expected to defend American interests against the ravages of liberalism and socialism. Thus, 57% is abysmal. To add bitter poison to the mix, a GOP senator reportedly made a last minute change which requires the US to consult with Mexico before erecting a border fence. Still, despite the gut-wrenching let down, patriotic Americans can be grateful for the fact that the US House of Representatives must also act on any immigration legislation before it can be signed into law. Thank God, the House is comprised of decent conservatives more commited to American security, sovereignty and culture than cheap labor.
THAT is the Democrat line! The question is better for who? The Democrat party, no longer able to win elections by appealing to real Americans? The Catholic church, desperate for peasants who have never even heard of the Da Vinci Code? Labor Unions, desperate for new, brain-dead fools to steal from? Amnesty is THE LIBERAL agenda, mates! Which is not to say that our stupid president and the RINOs behind him are any better!
democrats - republicans - they're both worthless. it is pretty pitiful that your only defense of republicans is to point at democrats. here's an example of how out-of-whack both parties are with the will of the americans. Opinion polls have been showing for a year or so that the percentage of americans who want to bring the troops home has been hovering over the last year at the 55-60% level. they had a vote in congress to see who wanted an orderly withdrawal from Iraq and only 1% of the House of representatives voted to withdraw the troops. Among the general population it is 60% who say bring em home, but among congress it is 1%. this demonstrates very clearly that our whole system of popular representation of the people in government is completely broken. both democrats & republicans oppose the americans on immigration policy and on many other policies.
The question is better for who? The Democrat party, no longer able to win elections by appealing to real Americans? The Catholic church, desperate for peasants who have never even heard of the Da Vinci Code? Labor Unions, desperate for new, brain-dead fools to steal from? Amnesty is THE LIBERAL agenda, mates! Which is not to say that our stupid president and the RINOs behind him are any better! ROFLMAO!! On a mission from 'god'.. ??? Still worshipping the RNC?? Hmm it's Memorial Day?? Double or triple time today :P
Don't remove from context, that's dishonest.
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison
Red: The ONLY politicans I defend are those who vote for America---not Mexico. It just happens that most of those have a little R next to their names. But to ALL RINOs, the idiot-in-chief and Democrats who are for amnesty, I say: Go to the hot place for ever
That is the dishonest statement, Robin Again, the Vote on the floor of the Senate re the amnesty bill: For Amnesty: Democrats= 38 of 42 voting or 90% GOP= 24 of 56 voting or 43% MOST Republicans---57% do NOT want amnesty. Again: If amnesty is to be stopped, it will be because of the GOP House.
UH.. those figures may apply to the constituency but certainly NOT the leadership.. now WHOSE dishonest?? Such a shill you are..
How about HR 4437, Robin? Pushed through the House by the GOP with NO Guest Worker program.
Still in love with truth----in spite of the obvious hatred for same by the left.
Let's not forget that the Republicans control the agenda completely -- 100%. It would have been impossible for the Democrats to start the amnesty program. Let's not forget that the Republicans proposed the amnesty bill in the first place. They issue didn't even exist until Bush started the ball rolling. Let's not forget that because the Republicans control the agenda, they could stop the amnesty plan tomorrow. Let's not forget that Bush could stop the amnesty plan today in one press conference. And please, have the decency not to try and tell us the Clinton is controlling Bush with a secret mind control ray or something equally silly. Also, let's not forget that it was the Republicans under Reagan that gave us the last amnesty plan. Finally, let us not forget that it is only moronic dupes like you who believe the Republicans are not the responsible party here.
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So who voted, Zipp? Just the leadership? Perhaps you failed to notice, but on the Demo side, both the leadership AND the average bloke voted for Mexico! 38 out of 42 or 90%! Not good, Zipp. Not good.
That was just to keep dupes like you shilling for them. The Senate version is really different isn't it.
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You're not disillusioned whatsoever.. two choices here .. either your totally looney toons or paid.. OR perhaps a combination of the two.. Betcha you've removed all the mirrors from your house..
That is the dishonest statement, Robin Red's statement stands true. The GOP says NO to amnesty, which is good, BUT they voted YES to guest worker, which is very bad. http://www.numbersusa.org/hottopic/2454.html http://www.numbersusa.com/PDFs/SensenbrennerSpecterMcCainFristComparison.pdf
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison
Are you too stupid to understand that 57% does not constitute MOST? Are you that brain-dead---or brain-washed? As to our idiot-in-chief AND every RINO that supports him, and the 90% of Democrats that voted for Mexico: To hades with you all! All take old --- with you!
Perhaps you failed
to notice, but on the Demo side, both the leadership AND the average bloke voted
for Mexico! 38 out of 42 or 90%! Not good, Zipp. Not good.
It's all bulls**t and you know it.. you may as well quit
trying it here.. youre getting nowhere with this crap.. We've all been there ..
99% of us here are escapees from FR.. we've heard the crap before.. divide and
conquer.. .. how often does the RNC send you talking points anyway? Probably
daily now that Bush's numbers are in the s**tter.
Unable to answer the question, Zip? Now its all bu****? Why not just admit that you have been fooled by the leftist media and the liberal morons? BTW, when you sober up or run out of drugs, look up HR 4437 AND UN 1441. <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HR4437 That's good, but they are not done. http://www.numbersusa.org/hottopic/2454.html Check them all.
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison
Really? What bill was that? Liberalslie 209? READ HR 4437 and please cite the portion that speaks to guest worker. BTW, amnesty is 10000000 times worse than Guest Worker!
Why not just admit that you have been fooled by the leftist media and the liberal morons? BTW, when you sober up or run out of drugs, look up HR 4437 AND UN 1441. < ALRIGHTY!! Knock it off now.. - > "BTW, when you sober up or run out of drugs: Keep this shit up and you'll be out the door in less than 30 seconds.. take this as your first and ONLY warning..
We know you are brain dead and brain washed. You are trying to tell us: (1) The Republicans didn't start this, and (2) The Republicans are not the ones keeping this alive. This is a lie. But you know that. The Republicans gave us the illegal alien amnesty drive. They control the agenda. They gave it life. The Repbulicans are now keeping the illegal alien amnesty issue alive. They could kill it today if they wanted to. So who cares if a few unneeded votes sit it out in order to fool simple minded tools and goobers like yourself? They will need you again soon enough, so they will toss this bone to you now. You are easy to manipulate. See how you fell for this one?
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This Republican administration and Congress are the most liberal, progressive, one world government, UN loving socialists we as a nation have ever seen. The Republican party hates the Bill Of Rights and the Constitution. The REPS along with the DEMS are nothing but treasonous criminal traitors. You are not going to get any "left"/"right" debate here, because the two party system is a joke. I proudly state that I haven`t voted for either party since "92". You are a troll. You`re stay here will be brief. MJ
HR4437 is not the only bill pending. Many attempts were made to add guest worker but they were shot down. Here's liberal Boxer: "There are 3.6 million workers in construction with an average wage of $18.21," Boxer said. "I meet with my working people in California. They're fighting hard for these jobs, they want more of these jobs, not less of these jobs, and the last thing they want is a guest worker program that is going to provide a big pool of workers who will get far less than this amount and take jobs away from my people." "There is nothing temporary about this guest worker program," agreed Sessions, saying the bill offers new migrants -- as well as most of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants already in the country -- a path to citizenship, leading to extraordinary new numbers of blue-collar migrants.
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison
hi kook!! how long are you going to last on a serious forum? you have to use things like facts here. stuff you don't like and makes you look bad. and when are you going to start spamming the BN with your silly pictures? how is that going to go over?
Great! Except for the fact that liberal Boxer voted FOR MEXICO in the Senate and Sessions voted for the US. Have you read HR 4437? Please point out exact GW provisions in that bill-- which was passed by the House in December. BTW, you should also refer to an amnedment by liberal Diane Feinstein that would have conferred an 'orange card' on all 20 million illegals here. Amnesty is a liberal ideal!
hey, welcome Morgana!
They want to give them amnesty that leads to citizenship. And the Senate bill includes a guest worker plan. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=accbIP1dU1ys&refer=us ``I know the politics are out there,'' Frist, from Tennessee, said on Fox News Sunday. ``It's not politically popular.'' Yet he urged negotiations to move forward even though the Senate's version of the legislation, which contains a guest worker program leading to citizenship, is ``not perfect.'' Most Republicans who face stiff competition in the November House elections oppose legislation that would allow illegal immigrants to become citizens because it might be seen as rewarding unlawful behavior, the Washington Post reported today, citing interviews with about half of the 40 most vulnerable congressman.
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison
You better read the legislation that passed the Senate, I posted a Bloomberg link. The GOP is fighting. They are giving them amnesty with possibly a path to citizenship and it includes a guest worker program.
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison
You are a brilliant genius. There--now we are both liars!
Everyone should know right now that Amnesty isn't about making these people legal, it's about making them TAXPAYERS. TAXPAYERS, NOTHING MORE.
#2. To: alwaysontheright (#0)
#3. To: Red Jones (#2)
who was it that started the H1-b visa program? and the L-1 visa program. these were brought to us originally by republicans.
#4. To: Red Jones (#1)
you make it sound like the republicans are trying to stop illegal immigration
#5. To: robin (#3)
and out-right amnesty would be far better
#6. To: alwaysontheright (#4)
#7. To: alwaysontheright (#5)
THAT is the Democrat line!
#8. To: alwaysontheright (#5)
out-right amnesty would be far better than the guest worker programs that most republicans want. the guest-worker programs are long-term formulas for turning the american population into serfs. flood the work-force with people who are compromised and can't switch jobs, give the employers a source of workers who are semi-slave indentured servants, that's what republicans want.
#9. To: Red Jones (#6)
it is pretty pitiful that your only defense of republicans
#10. To: robin (#8)
than the guest worker programs that most republicans want.
#11. To: alwaysontheright (#10)
#12. To: robin (#8)
Don't remove from context, that's dishonest.
#13. To: Zipporah (#7)
Still worshipping the RNC??
#14. To: alwaysontheright (#10)
MOST Republicans---57% do NOT want amnesty.
#15. To: Zipporah (#11)
UH.. those figures may apply to the constituency but certainly NOT the leadership
#16. To: alwaysontheright (#12)
How about HR 4437, Robin? Pushed through the House by the GOP with NO Guest Worker program.
#17. To: alwaysontheright (#13)
Still in love with truth----in spite of the obvious hatred for same by the left.
#18. To: alwaysontheright (#10)
than the guest worker programs that most republicans want.
#19. To: ... (#14)
#20. To: alwaysontheright (#15)
So who voted, Zipp? Just the leadership?
#21. To: Zipporah (#20)
#22. To: alwaysontheright (#12)
How about HR 4437, Robin? Pushed through the House by the GOP with NO Guest Worker program.
#23. To: robin (#18)
YES to guest worker
#24. To: alwaysontheright (#21)
Unable to answer the question, Zip? Now its all bu****?
#25. To: alwaysontheright (#19)
Are you too stupid to understand that 57% does not constitute MOST? Are you that brain-dead---or brain-washed?
#26. To: alwaysontheright (#0)
#27. To: alwaysontheright (#23)
#28. To: alwaysontheright (#21)
BTW, when you sober up or run out of drugs, look up HR 4437 AND UN 1441.
#29. To: robin (#27)
#30. To: Morgana le Fay, PnbC (#28)
#31. To: alwaysontheright (#23)
#32. To: alwaysontheright (#29)
#33. To: Kamala (#26)
You are a troll. You`re stay here will be brief.
#34. To: alwaysontheright (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#35. To: robin (#32)
The GOP voted as folows on that bill: Yes- 24 or 43% No- 32 or 57% The Democrats supported the bill 28 out of 32 90% Have you read HR 4437? Please quote chapter and verse where GW is provided for.
You better read the legislation that passed the Senate, I posted a Bloomberg link.
#36. To: alwaysontheright (#29)
Proposed by the GOP and kept alive by the GOP. The Democrats have no control over the agenda. If the GOP nixes it, it is dead. But this is also the way it worked back in 1983 with Reagan. The Republicans pushed through illegal alien amnesty while the people weren't looking. Under Reagan however, the GOP promised to enforce employer sanctions. alwaysontheright and the rest of the mindless goobers lapped this up with a spoon.
Amnesty is a liberal ideal!
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#37. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#34)
Yep. Confers no rights to any benefits or public services, right? So why in the hell do they have to be citizens to pay taxes??????? You are supposed to pay taxes on money you earn here----citizen or not! And why do you suppose illegals are so anxious to become citizens----they love taxes? You ARE a Democrat!
TAXPAYERS, NOTHING MORE.
#38. To: alwaysontheright (#33)
you wouldn't seem like such a kook if you did something besides dumb insults. just trying to help you here.
You are a brilliant genius. There--now we are both liars!
#39. To: ... (#36)
So, why did 90% of Democrats vote YES?
Proposed by the GOP and kept alive by the GOP.
#40. To: alwaysontheright (#37)
just because he is not a kook like you doesn't mean he is a Democrat.
You ARE a Democrat!
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