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Title: Kaganism: The People Steering Us Into Another World War
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URL Source: https://www.unz.com/estriker/kagani ... ing-us-into-another-world-war/
Published: Aug 13, 2023
Author: ERIC STRIKER
Post Date: 2023-08-13 08:50:39 by Ada
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Views: 428
Comments: 10

The Iraq war debacle, the relative (to Bush) restraint of the Obama administration, and the 2016 anti-interventionist campaign of Donald Trump may have seemingly discredited the neo-conservative movement and its personalities, but they have come roaring back.

This new stage in American foreign policy could be characterized as Kaganism: neither Democrat or Republican, but rather a non-partisan 21st century crusade for “liberalism.”

Donald Kagan, the patriarch of Kaganism, followed a similar intellectual trajectory to his colleagues Irving Kristol and Norman Podhoretz: Marxist academics who transformed into rabid Reaganoid Cold Warriors in response to the Soviet Union’s support for Arab nationalism and anti- Zionism in the 1960s. Donald was quite clearly in the Republican camp, though his children have dropped some of the “right-wing” elements of the neo-conservative doctrine (previously used to mobilize Evangelical Christian voting blocs) and replaced it with a unified American state ideology that is as at home in the Democratic Party as it is in the GOP.

Donald’s sons, the American Enterprise Institute’s Frederick Kagan and the Brookings Institute’s Robert Kagan, were highly influential in the George W. Bush administration through think-tanks such as the Project For A New American Century and the Foreign Policy Initiative, though today they have largely distanced themselves from the GOP following the party’s alienation of Jewish elites through Trumpification.

At PNAC, the Kagans were primarily concerned with expanding Israeli power by using the United States to topple Saddam Hussein, Bashar Al- Assad and strangling Iran, but by 2006, they grew increasingly suspicious and hostile towards Russia and China for seeking more control in how they interface with Western (read: Jewish) financial institutions and cultural values, while simultaneously choosing to pursue their own foreign policy paths independent of Pax Americana. Over time, the fears of Kaganism have been vindicated, as Russia and China have evolved from wild card United Nations votes to outright revisionist powers ready to directly confront Washington interlopers in their backyards.

The Kaganists blame the rise of China, Russia and Iran on the war and free trade weary American people, who in 2016 even managed to pressure Hillary Clinton into tactically walking back her support for the Trans- Pacific Partnership (a move that enraged Kagan). For most Americans, the nation-wrecking trade deficits (which are in truth subsidies to buy subservience), trillion-dollar wars, and mountains of body bags required to oversee a world empire are neither necessary or worthwhile for the well-being of the geographically gifted and resource rich United States.

In 2019, current Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Robert Kagan, the husband Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland, published an editorial excoriating the “America First” message embraced by segments of both parties and reiterated the minority Jewish-held internationalist elite consensus think-tanks have been churning out for decades. According to Blinken and Kagan, a world of realism, where countries are free of Jewish minders and American blood and treasure is exclusively reserved for the benefit of American people, is a “jungle” that allows budding Hitlers (Putin), Mussolinis (Iran) and Hirohitos (China) to spread “anti-democratic” revolution against “Anglo-American” (a term Kaganists use to identify their civilizational project even as they support demographic replacement of the European stock in English-speaking country) liberal-globalist hegemony.

Under the doctrine of Kaganism, the only solution to global conflicts is to refuse diplomacy with sovereign states that have different cultures or political traditions, and instead kill and replace them through the Bolshevistic export of “American” values around the world, which they describe as the primacy of New York finance and free trade, arbitrary and illegal regime change wars, open borders and the free movement of people, actively demoralizing and disempowering racial majorities, and other planks of the Jewish Open Society that intends to salt all potential seedbeds for “fascism” or “anti-Semitism,” even though much of the world, including the American people, don’t want it.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

Donald Kagan, the patriarch of Kaganism, followed a similar intellectual trajectory to his colleagues Irving Kristol and Norman Podhoretz

All of them are peas in a pod and are progenitors of modern day Neocons. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2023-08-13   9:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings, neoconsnailed (#1)

modern day Neocons

Trotskyites

Ada  posted on  2023-08-13   12:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#2)

Neocons

Trotskyites

Trotskyism and Neoconservatives: No Link

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2023-08-13   13:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ada (#2) (Edited)

When the jew neocon mvt e,g, Kristol and Podhoretz first emerged 45 years ago 'twas said that they were former Trotskyites, but I've never heard this backed up. I see Jeane Kirkpatrick was a longtime Dummacrat up to that era.

Kagan -- that's an Irish or Presbyterian name I believe?

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2023-08-15   18:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BTP Holdings (#3)

RE: WHY DID SO MANY TROTSKYITES BECOME NEO-CONSERVATIVES? #14414973 By The Immortal Goon - 30 May 2014 19:12Membership Days equal or more then 2555 Posts equal or more then 4000 Posts equal or more then 10000 Posts equal or more then 20000 LikeBB equal or more then 99 Max Shactman, Philip Selznick, Irving Kristol are really the only ones ever cited as being neo-concervative Trotskyists.

Further, they're not great Neo-Conservatives. Max Schactman was never anything but a hard leftist. He broke with Trotsky by going further to the left than Trotsky to a group Trotsky called, "ultraleft circles of petty-bourgeois intelligentsia." That is to say, where Trotsky advocated unconditional support for the Soviet Union, "ultraleft," individuals did not find it worth saving in WWII, especially after the Soviet-Nazi pact.

So, according to the prominent theory that neoconservatives are Trotskyists, Schactman moved to a more utopian left than Trotsky himself and somehow became a conservative by his endorsement of the New Left and the civil rights movement (darlings of conservatives at they time!) before he died. Though it is true some of Schactman's followers did go onto become neo-conservatives. But this is pretty weak tea to say that some students of Schactman (though never Schactman himself) later became neo-conservatives, thus neo-conservatives are tied to Trotsky in anyway whatsoever.

Philip Selznick has a slightly better claim to neo-conservatism, but a far worse claim to Trotsky. He was part of the Young People's Socialist League for only three year. He recounted it as mostly an, "intense intellectual experience." One thing he took from it that he carried away from it was the concept of bureaucracy being a bad thing (Trotsky took this from Lenin). Here the link wasn't far from anyone that opposed bureaucracy. When Shactman and his people broke with Trotsky, Selznick demanded, "the rejection of Bolshevism and of Leninism."

This is a little better match to conservatism in that much later Tea- Baggers and them would argue that the free-market somehow was the opposite of bureaucracy, but as I hope to show why this itself isn't the best connection either.

Kristol is a better conservative, but a worse Trotskyist than the others. He was attracted to a group of Schactmanites largely for their anti-soviet feeling. This, of course, already separated him far from Trotsky and even pretty far from Max Shactman who was an ultra leftist in his rejection of the Soviet Union, while Kristol was pretty much just against the Soviet Union. He was deeply against the civil rights movement and New Left (separating him from Schactman even further) but for the New Deal and government expansion into certain areas (separating him from Selznick). When allying with Harringtonists for the expansion of New Deal-like programs, Michael Harrington described what he thought was a slur against Kristol as a, "neo-conservative." Kristol picked it up and ran with the idea of a conservative expansion of government and whatnot, based on Reaganomics and the expansion of capitalism.

Alright, so these are the three that are always brought up as the Trotskyists turned Neo-Conservatives. One of them was a Trotskyist for a bit, one was actually a neo-conservitive. They all would violently disagree with each other. So what do they all have in common?

They're Jews. And that's all that really matters, because this theory that neo-conservatism is a Trotskyist thing comes from state-rights Republicans that have a Confederate bend and don't like the big bad Union, something neo-conservatives are more willing to accept. Other things they don't like are big cities and Jews. Since the Civil Rights Movement was accepted in the US, these kinds of Conservatives had to back off and put things into a more libertarian rhetoric. Note this is not saying all libertarians believe this, but that these kinds of Conservatives put their traditional platform into libertarian forms:

Ada  posted on  2023-08-15   20:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: NeoconsNailed (#4)

Irving Krostol was a member of the Young Peoples Socialist League, a Trotskyite organization.

Ada  posted on  2023-08-15   20:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada (#6)

OMG, hateful.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2023-08-16   7:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: NeoconsNailed (#7)

Irving Kristol was Bill Kristol's father. Just so we know we are on the same page. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2023-08-17   16:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BTP Holdings, Esso, Exxon, Enjay, Sinclair, HAPPY2BME-4UM (#8)

And Bill is ten times as horrible as Irving --- it ramps up drastically every generation.

We saw here yesterday how George Saurus' organizations are losing ground fast, so I don't know how much "good" it will do for the old bastard to pass them onto his evil spawn as planned ;)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2023-08-17   17:32:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: NeoconsNailed, BTP Holdings, Esso (#9)

Neocons like Kristol shouldn't be able to be anywhere near foreign policy.

Kristol leads charge to make Republicans think right on Ukraine

Ada  posted on  2023-08-18   10:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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