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Title: "US Is On The Brink of Catastrophic War That Could Easily Destroy Us"
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URL Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/political ... douglas-macgregor-tells-tucker
Published: Aug 21, 2023
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2023-08-21 19:49:38 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 338
Comments: 10

- Col. Douglas MacGregor Tells Tucker Carlson Why The Ukraine War Must End Now

Tucker Carlson on Monday published an interview with former Trump administration official Col. Douglas Macgregor (Ret.), who explained why the war in Ukraine has put the United States on the brink of a 'catastrophic war that could easily destroy us.'

Carlson begins with a bold statement: "pretty much everything that NBC and The NY Times have told you about the war in Ukraine is a lie."

"'The Russian army is incompetent' - they claim. 'Ukraine is a Democracy!' 'Vladimir Putin is Hitler and he's trying to take over the world!' 'Thankfully, the Ukrainians are winning.'

"Every claim is false, the last one especially," said Carlson, adding "the Ukrainian army is not winning - in fact, it's losing badly. Ukraine is being destroyed. Its population is being slaughtered."

"Most American know nothing about Ukraine," Macgregor continued, adding that "if they knew anything about the history of Eastern Europe, they would all say 'get out!'... because the wars and the blood and the hatred that's been fought over for centuries is something we can't sort out."

Macgregor's comments grow more ominous in their tone as the discussion continues. He notes that President Biden has enabled 'combat pay' which implies there are American forces on the ground in Ukraine. "It would be a mistake to think that the Russian forces do not know where they are," the retired colonel explains, pointing out that the Russians are sending a message with recent precision missile strikes near the borders of Poland and Moldova: "if you think you can hide from us, if you come in here, if you cross these borders, we will annihilate you." "

We need to come to terms with these realities because we can't defeat it," he remarked reflecting on the fact that people have called him 'unpatriotic' for his comments. He summed the situation in Ukraine up rather succinctly: "if we press this war with Russia in Central East Europe, it will reach us here in the United States."

According to Macgregor, "The smartest thing we can do is end this war now," adding "The Russians will never tolerate NATO forces on Ukrainian soil."

"Ukrainian forces are in piecemeal fashion, surrendering to the Russians, not because they don't want to fight; it's because they can't fight anymore, they have so many wounded they can't evacuate them ... we're going to see this army that we have spent so heavily on, melt away."

When it comes to the equipment being used to fight, MacGregor said that "a lot of the equipment we sent over there is quite frankly, obsolete... its very old, it's not new."

"Integrated air defenses will knock virtually everything that flies out of the sky," he said, adding "We will then fall back on a nuclear deterrent - a tactical nuclear weapon that says 'if you keep advancing, we'll have to use a nuclear weapon.' We don't want to go there, because the notion that there are so-called tactical nukes 'oh, it's just a little nuke, so that won't precipitate a nuclear war' - the use of any nuclear weapon is going to precipitate an escalation very rapidly," he said.

Tucker Carlson @TuckerCarlson

Ep. 18 Into the abyss: Colonel Douglas Macgregor tells us why the Ukraine war must end now.

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Esso  posted on  2023-08-21   20:35:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod, TommyTheMadArtist, Horse, 4um (#3)

That interview was REALLY interesting. 52 min.

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#7. To: Esso (#6)

It was everything I knew in 2014.

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#8. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#7)

It was everything I knew in 2014.

I missed a lot in 2014. I was dealing with injuries from Texting Woman about killing me, doctors, hospitals, insurance companies and lawyers, a divorce and my mother dying, etc. Maybe that's why it was interesting to me, I wasn't around to see it.

I didn't hear anything from Col. Mac that I disagreed with. He was right about Ukraine being a shithole.

Esso  posted on  2023-08-22   10:34:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Esso (#8)

In 2014 I was standing in front of a large display while news clips were being hosted. I was watching the news with a Russian pipeline engineer at my side.

A video went up showing a Russian missile bolting out of a launcher at lightning speed. The Russian guy let out a "Wow!" You could feel the goosebumps.

What the Russian engineer was seeing that I was not at the time was the degree to which that kind of force was being employed to preserve his nation.

I just pray that missiles of that type aren't flying in both directions very soon, but I have to say that I do not like the way our oligarchs are pushing us to war at the moment. They're some nasty fuckers and I wouldn't lift a finger to defend them. Their interests are not our interests.

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#10. To: randge (#9)

I talked to some Russians this spring. There was 4 or 5 of them staying at a buddy's B&B. They said they were doing some kind of work on cell towers, but I don't remember what exactly.

I remember wondering why they had to come all the way from Russia to do work Americans should be doing. It was suspicious, but hey, Bidetonomics.

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