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Title: Is the U.S. Senate Incompetent or Deceitful?
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URL Source: http://www.therealitycheck.org/StaffWriter/rnunn052506.htm
Published: May 31, 2006
Author: Randall H. Nunn
Post Date: 2006-05-31 21:12:11 by 82Marine89
Ping List: *The Border*
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The so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act” (“CIRA”) being debated in the United States Senate is quite possibly one of the most far-reaching and dangerous pieces of legislation to be proposed in many years. It is unfortunate that it bears the names of two Republican Senators, Senator Hagel and Senator Martinez as sponsors and authors of a compromise supposed to improve it, but perhaps the publicity the bill is getting will cause the constituents of those Senators to reassess their support. Are these Senators and others in the Senate who are backing this bill unaware of the provisions of the bill or are they trying to dupe us with their politically correct statements designed to appeal to our charitable good nature? If the Senators don’t know the provisions of the bill or understand the impact of the bill, they are incompetent. If they know and understand, but are misleading the country, they are deceitful beyond words. A little more than a week ago, Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at The Heritage Foundation, wrote an analysis of CIRA, stating that this bill, if enacted would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the United States over the next 20 years. To put that into better perspective, that amounts to one-third of the current U.S. population. Did any of the Senators sponsoring this proposed legislation tell us that they are proposing that over the next 20 years, immigrants equal to one-third of our current population would be allowed in? Not that I heard. And if they didn’t tell us this, what could be the reason? Perhaps they are too busy in front of the television cameras or raising money to read the proposed legislation. They leave such mundane tasks to their staffs or interest groups while they focus on perpetuating themselves in office. The primary job of these senators is to represent their states and their constituents, which carries with it an obligation to inform themselves about legislation they are proposing or voting on. Since Mr. Rector’s paper created a great deal of interest when it was published and quickly circulated among conservative senators, it appears that many were not aware of the major dislocation that was about to be inflicted upon the country by these solons. If this is an example of how our senators operate, we should insist that every bill have an attachment whereby the senators certify that they have actually read the entire bill. If these legislative wizards say that they actually read the proposed legislation, then the next question should be “Why didn’t you tell the American voters that your bill gives amnesty to 10 million illegal immigrants and quintuples the rate of legal immigration into the United States?” Any senator who candidly explains the ramifications of this bill in such terms is probably insuring his or her early retirement. Mr. Rector in his research paper concluded that the CIRA legislation would “transform the United States” socially, economically, and politically, saying that “within two decades, the character of the nation would differ dramatically from what exists today.” Very few of our senators are telling us that our nation would be transformed dramatically if this legislation is enacted. Thankfully there are people and organizations who actually have read this flawed bill and tell us truthfully what the impact will be if it is passed. If anyone thinks CIRA would benefit the nation, they need to read Mr. Rector’s analysis. Can any nation absorb an influx of one-third of its population in 20 years and survive as a nation, with substantially the same culture, institutions and traditions it had prior to such a massive inflow? Let’s stop kidding ourselves about allowing oppressed peopled to have a “better life” and other such emotion-laden phrases and think about what is really being attempted by some in the U.S. Senate. Whether this bill is the product of ignorance or deceit, its effect will be the same on all of us. When Mr. Rector says that “the character of the nation would differ dramatically from what exists today” he is being a little diplomatic and charitable. I think Merle Haggard could have put it a little more plainly—our country’s future will be “rollin’ downhill like a snowball headed for hell.”
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#1. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
A little more than a week ago, Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at The Heritage Foundation, wrote an analysis of CIRA, stating that this bill, if enacted would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the United States over the next 20 years. To put that into better perspective, that amounts to one-third of the current U.S. population. This truly is the most disasterous issue that we've faced .. probably in not only our lifetime but in many lifetimes.. this is the purposeful destruction of this country IMO.
Hey Marine. Long time, no see. This invasion transcends the politics of the Rs and Ds. It's all about the corporate elite and an agenda to unify us with Canada and Mexico. Schlafly outlines the scheme nicely below. If you want to google the plan itself it's 58 pages and a tedious read. Peace. CFR's Plan to Integrate the U.S., Mexico and Canada "Community" means integrating the United States with the corruption, socialism, poverty and population of Mexico and Canada. "Common perimeter" means wide- open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada. "Community" is sometimes called "space" but the CFR goal is clear: "a common economic space ... for all people in the region, a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely." The CFR's "integrated" strategy calls for "a more open border for the movement of goods and people." The CFR document lays "the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America." The "common security perimeter" will require us to "harmonize visa and asylum regulations" with Mexico and Canada, "harmonize entry screening," and "fully share data about the exit and entry of foreign nationals." This CFR document, called "Building a North American Community," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details. It was at this same meeting, grandly called the North American summit, that President Bush pinned the epithet "vigilantes" on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona. A follow-up meeting was held in Ottawa on June 27, where the U.S. representative, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, told a news conference that "we want to facilitate the flow of traffic across our borders." The White House issued a statement that the Ottawa report "represents an important first step in achieving the goals of the Security and Prosperity Partnership." The CFR document calls for creating a "North American preference" so that employers can recruit low-paid workers from anywhere in North America. No longer will illegal aliens have to be smuggled across the border; employers can openly recruit foreigners willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages. Just to make sure that bringing cheap labor from Mexico is an essential part of the plan, the CFR document calls for "a seamless North American market" and for "the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico." The document's frequent references to "security" are just a cover for the real objectives. The document's "security cooperation" includes the registration of ballistics and explosives, while Canada specifically refused to cooperate with our Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI). To no one's surprise, the CFR plan calls for massive U.S. foreign aid to the other countries. The burden on the U.S. taxpayers will include so- called "multilateral development" from the World Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank, "long-term loans in pesos," and a North American Investment Fund to send U.S. private capital to Mexico. The experience of the European Union and the World Trade Organization makes it clear that a common market requires a court system, so the CFR document calls for "a permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution." Get ready for decisions from non-American judges who make up their rules ad hoc and probably hate the United States anyway. The CFR document calls for allowing Mexican trucks "unlimited access" to the United States, including the hauling of local loads between U.S. cities. The CFR document calls for adopting a "tested once" principle for pharmaceuticals, by which a product tested in Mexico will automatically be considered to have met U.S. standards. The CFR document demands that we implement "the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico." That's code language for putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system. Here's another handout included in the plan. U.S. taxpayers are supposed to create a major fund to finance 60,000 Mexican students to study in U.S. colleges. To ensure that the U.S. government carries out this plan so that it is "achievable" within five years, the CFR calls for supervision by a North American Advisory Council of "eminent persons from outside government . . . along the lines of the Bilderberg" conferences. The best known Americans who participated in the CFR Task Force that wrote this document are former Massachusetts Governor William Weld and Bill Clinton's immigration chief Doris Meissner. Another participant, American University Professor Robert Pastor, presented the CFR plan at a friendly hearing of Senator Richard Lugar's Foreign Relations Committee on June 9.
The wording in the immigration bill is verbatum from this document.. there is absolutely NOTHING Americans can do about this ..nothing whatsoever..
I agree with Zipporah that this is probably the most disasterous issue that we've faced. Every negative thing I've read about it seems true. But that's not the half of it. People are so overwhelmed by the Mexican stuff that they are not seeing the rest. They just doubled H1-B quotas. So not only working class Americans being pushed out, white collar Americans will go too. And it will be like IT or Construction is now, once the third worlders get hold of a shop, they won't hire Americans. Americans are the only people who do not band together to protect their interests. This makes them sitting ducks.
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You're right .. people are so focused on the illegal immigration that they havent looked at the H-1B visa issue.. this will hit all facets of working Americans..If they try to band together they're labelled xenophobes and racists.. good tactic for it keeps people in fear of even speaking out.
Isn't that the truth. We have no voice, no representation, and little hope of changing the course of this mess. Knowing that we tried to warn the FReeple, years ago, doesn't lessen the pain.
The only word to describe it is tyranny..
Can you imagine the screwing a young undergraduate of today is about to take? And their dopey parents? They’re so wrapped up in SATs and other assorted BS. When the kid graduates, his/her job will be outsourced to Bombay or the corporate whores will import Sahib to work for 1/2 the price. We're big time fucked.
Deceitful
Bribed and Blackmailed
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison
OR?
How about both?
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Bottom line: hope you all like Mexico because that's what we're going to become.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Yep.
"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings
A bunch of Indians, Pakistanis or Mexicans will band together on a job site and protect their own. Once an Indian gets a position of authority he will work as hard as he can to get other Indians in lateral positions. They will all then cover for each other and bring their own people in below. The Americans won't support each other and the Indians or Pakistanis will pick them off one by one. They replace the Americans with their own people. I've seen this over and over. An American who parrots free enterprise babble and imagines that the world is a meritocracy is no match for an organized group that conspires against him. A lot of these guys never even know what hits them. The really aggravating thing I've seen is that the group that takes over isn't any more competent than the Americans, just organized. The Americans are focused on wandering around, bumping into walls and reciting slogans from Fox News. The Indians are dedicated to taking over and getting the Americans out.
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It ain't over 'till it's over. Certainly we will do nothing if we think nothing can be done. But even if death is inevitable, there is still such a thing as an honorable death. If we must die, let us at least, when we meet our maker, be able to say that we died like men.
we just knew that after all the agitation in the media over immigration that something horrible would result legislation-wise. when we see the evil ones who rule doing bad things I like to remind people of what jesus said in Matthew 24. Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet. babylon is here. and we can't stop it. but we should not be worried. we should look forward to the time after babylon's rule. I remind you that we are instructed in this manner. so in 20 years we'll have 500 million people in this country. and in 40 years? I think the construction industry will boom.
Why should we care what happens to this country? I mean, it's not like it's ours anyway right? The idea that this country is even ours to begin with is a joke. When was the last time you DIDN'T pay property taxes? How about Income Taxes for working in this country? How about Sales tax? Think about it. How can this nation, land, or your home be yours, if you have to pay taxes on it in order to live in it? Think about that for minute. Then realize that this land aint yours. It's theirs. And by Theirs, I mean the uber elite fuckers who really run this country. Not the braindead fuckers pretending to be your congressmen and Senators. I'm talking about the people who have the money to make us wage war on countries, who can facilitate fake terrorist attacks, and have the ability to silence any and all people who get in their way. If you think this government is or ever was yours, you're gravely mistaken. These are just dirty sock puppets with someone else's hand up their asses. You think the Bush Family came to prominence without being someone else's bitch? Think about it. These people, along with many other world elite figures REALLY run the world. Your so called government is nothing more than a bunch of useless idiots, spending your future into oblivion. There has NOT been a United States Of America since 1913. It died that day, without so much as a shot fired. So for you to think that this land is YOUR land, is a fucking joke to say the least. This land was stolen from us by an evil cabal of cocksuckers who think they know best how to rule the world. If there's one thing I hope to see before I die, is the awakening of the American People to this very truth. Of course, they won't give a fuck, but at least they'll see it for what it is.
The so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act” (“CIRA”) being debated in the United States Senate is quite possibly one of the most far-reaching and dangerous pieces of legislation to be proposed in many years.
#2. To: 82Marine89, ferret MIke, Mehitable (#0)
by Phyllis Schlafly 
The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has just let the cat out of the bag about what's really behind our trade agreements and security partnerships with the other North American countries. A 59-page CFR document spells out a five- year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter." 
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#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
"Building a North American Community,"
#4. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
#5. To: ... (#4)
They just doubled H1-B quotas. So not only working class Americans being pushed out, white collar Americans will go too. And it will be like IT or Construction is now, once the third worlders get hold of a shop, they won't hire Americans. Americans are the only people who do not band together to protect their interests. This makes them sitting ducks.
#6. To: Zipporah (#3)
there is absolutely NOTHING Americans can do about this ..nothing whatsoever..
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
Isn't that the truth. We have no voice, no representation, and little hope of changing the course of this mess. Knowing that we tried to warn the FReeple, years ago, doesn't lessen the pain.
#8. To: ... (#4)
They just doubled H1-B quotas
#9. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
Is the U.S. Senate Incompetent or Deceitful?
#10. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
Is the U.S. Senate Incompetent or Deceitful?
#11. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
#12. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
Is the U.S. Senate Incompetent or Deceitful?
#13. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
#14. To: mehitable (#12)
How about both?
#15. To: Zipporah (#5)
#16. To: Zipporah (#3)
there is absolutely NOTHING Americans can do about this ..nothing whatsoever..
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#18. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
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#19. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#18)
Right on and well said.
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#20. To: 82Marine89 (#0)
What I want to know is why the North American entity's other two members don't have to change their immigration laws to allow open borders also. This would still be a bad situation, but if Canada were forced to open its borders to disgruntled Americans, it would double its population overnight. I regret more with each passing year the fact that my grandfather moved from Ontario to Texas in the 1920s. I remember him complaining about how cold it was where he grew up and how he loved the Texas weather. Well, not even that is true anymore. Canada will be the new temperate region and Texas will even more resemble Hell than it did when the Yankee general named Sheridan said if he owned both Hell and Texas, he'd live in Hell and rent out Texas.
#21. To: Sam Houston, all (#20)
Well, think of national immigration law this way. If the PTB simply don’t enforce existing law (America/Bush) it isn’t necessary to change anything. V. Fox is an expert at this (currently 10% of Mexicans are living in America) and Stephen Harper in Canada holds a Bush-like view: PM won't set targets for immigrants Last Updated Fri, 12 May 2006 12:24:50 EDT CBC News Prime Minister Stephen Harper says Canada needs more immigrants but the Conservative leader stopped short of setting specific target numbers. Harper made the comments following a speech in Mississauga, Ont., where he announced changes to streamline the immigration system. "Well I think we need more," Harper said when asked by a reporter whether his government would increase the number of immigrants entering Canada. (my edit: The liberal's already set a number of 250,000 per year) But the prime minister appeared cool to the idea of setting specific target numbers, saying the previous Liberal government set targets that were never met. "Just having a number out there I don't think matters," he said. Harper said it's more important to make sure applications are processed quickly. This week, Immigration Minister Monte Solberg seemed to hint that the previous government's target of 300,000 new immigrants to Canada each year was too high. Harper also announced the federal government will introduce a bill to ease restrictions on foreign adoptions, making it easier for children overseas to become Canadian citizens. The prime minister reiterated the government's plan to immediately cut the immigrant landing fee from $975 to $490. "The so-called user fee is just a tax by another name," he said. He also said the government would create an agency that would help new immigrants through bureaucratic regulations and help recognize their foreign credentials. "The agency will do just that by working with our partners, the provinces, professional and licensing bodies, employers and immigrants, to make sure newcomers' skills, training and credentials are recognized." Sharry Aiken, a law professor at Queen's University who specializes in immigration, applauded some of the changes. She said the cut to the immigrant landing fee is long overdue. But she added the government appears paralyzed on some key systemic issues. Aiken said a great deal of their emphasis appears to be on clearing up backlog so we can bring in more economic immigrants. "And I would say we need to look at the overall immigration program, the balance between economic immigrants on the one hand, family members, refugees and other humanitarian classes on the other and not lose sight that those components of the program are equally important and equally in need of being sustained or being furthered."
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