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Title: Alabama Church Fires: The Real Story
Source: WUNG TV
URL Source: http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/churchfires.html
Published: Jun 1, 2006
Author: Victor Thorn
Post Date: 2006-06-01 14:27:15 by Zoroaster
Keywords: None
Views: 224
Comments: 12

Connecting the Dots

Alabama Church Fires: The Real Story by Victor Thorn Let’s get this straight. The Alabama serial arsonists (Benjamin Moseley, Russell DeBusk, and Matthew Lee Cloyd) were good kids who simply went bad, and the nine Christian churches they burned to the ground (causing over $2 million in damages) was just “a prank.”

But before the guilty parties were arrested, the BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms) was conducting an extensive investigation; church-goers in Alabama were horrified that they had psychopath-terrorists on their hands; while the media was going ballistic (ala the Unabomber, Ted Bundy, and Charles Manson).

But then the truth emerged about this matter. It seems three Jewish teenagers were the actual culprits; and all of a sudden the corporate press went silent (hell, they didn’t even mention that they were Jewish); while the religious elite (Amen Corner) didn’t utter a peep.

Still, these kids were just involved in a “joke,” right? WRONG! According to Judicial-inc.biz, these little bastards actually used “specially-designed thermite, or incendiary magnesium” to light the fires. Now ask yourself, how many of you have thermite lying around the house to start your barbeque in the backyard? Or do you think there’s more to the story?

Well, it’s recently been discovered that the Jewish deviants were practicing Satanists, and according to one friend, they went on “demon-hunting” trips. But hey, maybe these kids were just fun-loving devil-worshippers who simply dabbled in the occult.

But how about these statements: Matthew Lee Cloyd wrote on February 4, 2006, “Let us defy the very morals of society instilled upon us by our parents, our relatives, and of course Jesus!” Cloyd also wrote in January 2006, “It is time to reconvene the season of evil.” Do you think a series of destructive church burnings could be considered a “season of evil”?

In addition, here’s how a friend described Russell Lee DeBusk’s occult interests: “He thought he’d found something that worked for him. It’s not worshipping the devil. It’s nothing ritualistic. It’s about the pursuit of knowledge. He explained that there can be Satanic Christians.”

Huh? Satanic Christians? Is that like harmless pedophile babysitters? And lest we forget, didn’t the protagonist in Johann Wolfgang von Goethe’s Faust sell his soul to the devil in order to gain infinite wisdom … the “pursuit of knowledge”? Hell, these kids openly told their classmates they were “Satanists,” and during their terrorist activities, “They would break into the sanctuary and, in a conscious act, kindle at the altar.”

Do you understand the implications? These kids deliberately set fires at the most holy area of a church – the altar – and the literal (not to mention symbolic) ramifications are glaringly apparent.

The biggest question right now is: why haven’t there been any HATE CRIME charges? If this had been the KKK burning down nine synagogues, the ADL would have been screaming Hate Crime until the end of time. But it’s only referred to as a “joke that got out of hand” with these Jewish kids.

So let me ask: aren’t jokes supposed to be funny? But who the hell’s laughing? Two firefighters were harmed at a church in Bibb County, Alabama; while in Brierfield, a roof beam fell on Ben Fletcher’s head and injured his back. “They put these firemen’s lives on the line,” said Reverend Jim Parker. Yet this pastor of Ashby Baptist Church also said, “We’re very relieved to know this had no political, racial, or religious overtones.”

Say what? These kids were anti-Christian, Jesus-hating Satanists. How could it not have religious overtones, or not be a hate crime? Galilee Baptist Church Assistant Pastor Willie Speights summed it up best when commenting, “These kids knew what they were doing.” Or, as Ted Olsen of Christianity Today wrote, “it’s pretty surprising how accepting all media outlets seem to be about the claim that religion wasn’t the motive.”

Further proof can be found in remarks by Ian Cunningham, a sophomore who lived in the same dorm as the serial arsonists. After returning from a campus church, he said Moseley and DeBusk would “constantly mock me” for being saved (i.e. giving his life to Jesus Christ).

Considering how readily ADL proponents throw around the “anti-Semitic” term, what in the hell would you call everything you’ve read so far? These Jewish monsters are nothing less than Jesus-haters who used thermite to torch nine Christian churches. Who can deny that these degenerates were pursuing a very sick, twisted agenda?

But that’s not all they did. As reported by Newsweek and MSNBC, during the summer of 2005, Matthew Lee Cloyd posted Internet messages to Moseley referring to, “alcohol, drunken driving, illegal hunts, guns, vandalism, and feckless law enforcement officials.” Then, on December 4, 2005, Cloyd wrote, “Do you fucking realize what we did last night? Holy shit. 3 deer, 26 beers, and a baby deer’s worth of ammo.”

Plus, on November 28, 2005, Cloyd wrote on the Facebook website: “Mosely / Monday night / Case of Beer / Powerful Rifle Lots of Ammo / Green 4Runner / 2 complete idiots / 1 pack of camel lights / 0 law enforcement officers / 33 dead innocent white-tailed deer / insanely high speeds.”

Harmless kids, huh? They admitted to shooting 30 deer, killing 3 cows, and deliberately running over squirrels. In this light, extensive studies have been done on serial killers, and three predominant traits characterize many of them: (1) wetting the bed, (2) torturing and/or killing innocent animals, and (3) arson.

Do you get it? These kids are full-fledged psychopaths who willingly and methodically set a series of sophisticated church fires. Gene Edward Veith had the following to say in For the Fun of it: Burning Churches Turns into a Kick for Young Nihilists: “That these three students saw burning churches as a ‘joke’ calls to mind the case of Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb, two wealthy students at the University of Chicago with genius IQ’s, who murdered a child in 1924 for the sheer philosophical thrill of it.” Coincidentally, Leopold and Loeb were also from wealthy Jewish families that lived among the elite in Kenwood, Illinois.

Amazingly, all three of these lunatics could have been released on $50,000 bond (at least for their federal offenses, with state charges still pending) --- and if it weren’t for their Jewish roots, I assure you they’d be rotting in jail until the next decade while being damned by the religious right, the media, and political officials of every stripe. Even Alabama Governor Bob Riley is soft-soaping these hate crimes. But as Judicial-inc.biz points out, “Jay Balinger was the last person arrested for church burnings, and he was sentenced to 42 years and a $3.5 million fine.”

Does the same fate await Benjamin Moseley, Russell DeBusk, and Matthew Lee Cloyd – three deviant Jewish satanists – or will they merely get slaps on the wrist for their reign of terror, hate, and serial arson? It’s seems plenty is at stake, for ardent David Irving foe and fixer-extraordinaire Deborah Lipstadt has been called in to do a tour of Alabama Baptist churches, telling the congregations what nice, sweet young boys they were. In fact, Judicial-inc.biz has reported that “Dr. Deborah Lipstadt is flying in to address Birmingham-Southern College on Yom HaShoah/Holocaust Commemoration,” and that, “Deborah Lipstadt visits Birmingham Southern, the college that church arsonists Russell Lee Debusk and Benjamin Nathan Moseley attended.”

And what will Lipstadt and other Zionist apologists be facing? Well, once again, Judicial-inc.biz states, “They [the residents of Bibb County] saw three rich brats that killed their cows, shot 30 deer (leaving them to die), and burned down nine of their churches. Charges [against Moseley, DeBusk, and Cloyd] could include: DUI, drug possession, criminal mischief, burglary, civil rights violations, poaching, cruelty to animals, and arson.”

Stay tuned; we'll be watching ... and let their punishments fit the crimes.

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#1. To: Zoroaster (#0)

Benjamin Moseley, Russell DeBusk, and Matthew Lee Cloyd – three deviant Jewish satanists

Wait a minute: Moseley, DeBusk, and Cloyd are Jewish names? Not any Jews I've ever known. I can believe these punks are Satanists---I can believe they're swine in human form. I absolutely believe they set the fires out of hostility to Christianity, and that, although I am opposed on Constitutional grounds to so-called "hate crimes," their acts unquestionably constituted "hate crimes." What I don't believe until I get corroborating information is that they're all Jewish. Repeating something as fact doesn't make it so.

Here's a picture of all three:

The Moving Finger writes; and having writ,
Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it. ---Ruba'iyat, LXXI

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-06-01   15:08:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, all (#1)

Peetie: Two of the kids went to Methodist affiliated Birmingham-Southern College. I'm guessing it isn't a hot bed for young, Jewish scholars. Also, Victor Thorne wrote this article. Hmmm.....

The Post-Standard (Syracuse, NY); 3/9/2006

Byline: Carol Robinson and Val Walton Newhouse News Service

Birmingham, Ala. -- More than 250 investigators combed through thousands of leads and 500 vehicles before arresting three Birmingham college students, charging them in connection with nine February church fires in rural Alabama.

The three students, all close friends, admitted participating in a string of fires at Baptist churches that a witness said started as a joke that got out of hand, authorities said.

Two of the suspects, Russell Lee DeBusk Jr., 19, and Benjamin Nathan Moseley, 19, both students at the Methodist affiliated Birmingham-Southern College, were arrested during pre-dawn hours Wednesday at the college. The third suspect, University of Alabama at Birmingham pre-med student Matthew Lee Cloyd, 20, was arrested at his apartment Wednesday afternoon.

- Snip

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-01   15:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zoroaster (#0)

http://judicial- inc.biz/church_fires_in_alabama_supplement.htm#Three_Students_were_Jewish

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-06-02   16:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zoroaster, Robin, Diana (#0)

Interesting, according to this, I'M "Jewish" and my kids are "Jewish". I found a couple of our family names and only downloaded a little of the site.

But then I suspected that. I bet a lot of us are.

We're blonde and don't look "Jewish". One of those names is also said to be Welsh, English, Irish, and Scottish. In fact I was researching it yesterday, and checking out the family crest. I ran across another one at a Ren Faire, that I liked better. It had the thistle on it.

Anyone else want to 'fess up?

http://www.blueletterb ible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze037.html

http://www.blueletter bible.org/tsk_b/Isa/11/13.html

http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom002.html#29

http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa049.html#6

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-06-02   18:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Peetie Wheatstraw, robin, Zoroaster (#4)

I don't think these guys are Jewish, because of their names and because they look like demented white trash.

Their ethnicity doesn't matter though, it's what they did and the perverse thrill they get out of death and destruction, and their willingness to disregard the law. It's my opinion that such slimeballs should be castrated so as to calm down their dangerous aggressions, then put in prison.

Diana  posted on  2006-06-06   5:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Diana (#5)

I don't think these guys are Jewish, because of their names and because they look like demented white trash.

The guy in the middle photo, DeBusk I suppose, could pass for a Jew. If they're not Jewish, why the nearly complete media blackout? If they were WASPs or Arabs, the Electric Jew would be running the story 24/7.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-06-06   6:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zoroaster, Diana, christine, Zipporah, rowdee, ruthie (#6)

I don't think these guys are Jewish, because of their names and because they look like demented white trash.

The guy in the middle photo, DeBusk I suppose, could pass for a Jew. If they're not Jewish, why the nearly complete media blackout? If they were WASPs or Arabs, the Electric Jew would be running the story 24/7.

This issue was discussed at length at LF, and I agree with Zoroaster.

The best evidence that the young men are Jews is how quiet everyone got after they were identified, and Lipstadt's appearance, the sheriff's and feds' joint press conference was a love fest, etc.,

I agree with Zoroaster. The "One-Eyed Non Christian" went silent on the church fires, with none of the usual sensationalism or background info we've come to expect when "bad peepul" are identified.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-06-06   6:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Diana (#5)

I don't think these guys are Jewish, because of their names and because they look like demented white trash.

All the articles I read before the media blackout said they were Jewish. If they're not, then why the media blackout?

Freeper motto: "I read, but do not understand; I write, but make no sense."

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-06-06   6:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zoroaster (#0)

just a bunch of nice good ol jewish boys from alabama.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-06-06   9:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Red Jones (#9)

just a bunch of nice good ol jewish boys from alabama.

lol!

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-06-06   10:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zoroaster, HOUNDDAWG (#6)

If they're not Jewish, why the nearly complete media blackout?

My guess is because they burned white, southern, Christian churches?

Diana  posted on  2006-06-06   17:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Diana (#11)

If they're not Jewish, why the nearly complete media blackout?

My guess is because they burned white, southern, Christian churches?

If that was the reason then the blackout would have been in effect from day one.

They were calling for the heads of the arsonists until they were identified, THEN the blackout was in force.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-06-06   17:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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