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Title: My buddy had a dumb ass attack...
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Published: Mar 14, 2024
Author: Esso
Post Date: 2024-03-14 23:00:33 by Esso
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Views: 211
Comments: 13

Rainman got a 6' X 2' X 6" Granite slab for free. It's in his dump trailer on a pallet lengthwise, flat, estimated weight 1,200-1,400 lbs. He wants to make a bar top out of it in his backyard on brick pylons on a concrete slab.

Problems:
1. He's a tight-ass and doesn't want to spend money. Hey, it was FREE.
2. It has to go through a 3' immovable gate with a 7.5' overhead clearance and surrounding 8' masonry fence . It has to go through lengthwise.
3. It only has to move horizontally about 35', but the first 20' is over loose gravel, about 5 size, until it's on a slab.
4. Once it's near its near it's destination, it has to move vertically 3', flat, to set it on the pylons.

Any ideas might help.


Poster Comment:

I'm no stranger to moving ultra-heavy equipment, maybe up to 100,000 lbs., but the constraints have me flummoxed.

My initial thoughts:
1. I've been retired 10+ years due to injuries including a broken back, I won't be doing ANY lifting.
2. Strap the slab tightly to the pallet and use the dump function of the trailer to help manhandle and slide it down the trailer ramps which are rated for 10,000 lbs+ to the ground. The trailer height is about 2'.
3. Once the slab is on the ground, manhandle it up on the long edge.
4. Use about eight strong men using wide lift straps to muscle it through the gate and onto a pallet in front of the pylons and lay it back down flat.
5. Use a couple of borrowed/rented engine hoists to make the final lift and roll it into place. The legs of the hoists should easily straddle the pylons. The pylons will be about 14" square.

That's the best I can come up with, so far. Any heavy equipment I know of is not a possibility. I think the biggest problem is the final vertical lift.

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#1. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Addendum:

There's a million overhead power lines (HV and LV), phone, cable, internet, etc., in the way. Any kind of crane is not possible.

There's never a pyramid builder around when you need one...

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-03-14   23:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Sling Blade, Dakmar, 4um (#0)

Well, one of you MFers is strong as shit, the other one is smart, as in smart-ass. One of you has seen that beast slab.

You know you're old when everything is too expensive, too heavy, and too far away.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-03-15   0:09:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#0)

Rainman is the exception rather than the rule when it comes to friends. I don't know many folks with money shooting out their ass, except maybe Eric, but he's more Rainman's friend than mine.

My tax-babe, Christa, was asking me about charitable contributions last Friday, and I told her what I do, none of which are deductible.

"You need to stop that Pacman."

"Why? I ain't gonna take it with me."

I don't know why Christa is so fond of me, she saved my ass in 2019 when Turbo Tax fucked me. She fixed it. Then my younger retarded sister's trust fund dumped $60+k on me that should've gone back to the taxpayers, not me, there was one more event, I don't remember what it was. My calendar made it look like we were dating.

She gives me a huge discount every year, I always give it back in flowers and presents for her and the gals. Last year, my appointment was on St. Patrick's Day. She had me and the front office gals doing shots of Fireball.

She's the only thing standing between me and the government. I can't live without her. This year I got her and the gals (and that one weird guy) a dozen Easter colored roses, a box of really fancy chocolates and a "Thank You" necklace (cheap stainless steel) that I got for the message on the box. Dr. Kimmy had final approval, I don't want anybody to think I'm stalking them.

Doc said the first one I picked out was too "forward".

"Are you trying to fuck her, or me?"

LOL.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-03-15   7:57:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3) (Edited)

Doc said the first one I picked out was too "forward".

Kimmy was right. The symbolism maybe looks like we were married or something. Christa's husband might not have understood or appreciated that.

The dissimilar sized rings would've driven me crazy every time I was in her office.

"Symmetry is your life, Pacman." - Skillethead, Raytheon physicist

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-03-15   8:14:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Esso (#0) (Edited)

It has to go through a 3' immovable gate

If you have a welder/angle grinder you can slap a dolly together with angle iron and caster wheels from harbor freight.

the final vertical lift.

A chain fall is my preferred method for lifting vertically, as with a 1200 lb beef critter. Wooden tripods can be sketchy but are fairly easy to set up.

These casters are rated at 280 lbs...probably handles a bit more (I've used these)...

https://www.harborfreight.com/material-handling/tires-casters/swivel- casters/8-inch-pneumatic-swivel-caster-42485.html

Bigger is better...https://www.harborfreight.com/10-in-pneumatic-swivel- caster- 63799.html?_br_psugg_q=swivel+caster+wheels

watchman  posted on  2024-03-15   9:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: watchman (#5)

One time use MHE is not cost effective, built your repurpose into the design. For that weight load one will need eight casters with SWL of 280 pounds.

ghostrider  posted on  2024-03-15   17:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: ghostrider (#6)

built your repurpose into the design

Absolutely! I have a pile of wheels, casters, etc. that get repurposed every year for one thing or another.

All the machinery in my shop and barn, including coolers for the dairy and three chest freezers, are on wheels.

Outside, the hay feeder, watering trough and chicken tractors are also on wheels.

Roll, baby, roll.

watchman  posted on  2024-03-15   17:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: watchman, ghostrider (#5)

Rainman measured the gate, it's actually 4'. He found a forklift at a material handling rental joint that will fit through the gate, thank God. I have dollys I used to move equipment with but the gravel will swallow them.

Yesterday we had to put in a new water heater in his rental behind his house. The overhead is low in the basement there with ductwork etc. Spending half a day hunched over really did a number on my back, I was in so much pain by the end of the day I was puking.

He wants me to be there to help build those brick pylons for the bar top today before Doc gets here later this afternoon. I'm still hurting pretty bad. I hope the aspirin kicks in soon.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-03-16   10:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Esso (#8)

Rainman measured the gate, it's actually 4'. He found a forklift...

Glad to hear that a forklift can do the work...solves the problem nicely.

Now about that water heater install...sounds like Rainman owes you a steak dinner at the very least.

Got some back and tendon issues same as you. My vet gave me a bottle of meloxicam for a lame calf that got roughed up by our bull. He handed me the bottle and made mention that it was "human grade" wink..wink. I'm not much for taking meds but that stuff was better than crack.

watchman  posted on  2024-03-16   11:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: watchman (#9)

I have methadone for when the pain's really bad, but the stuff leaves me hungover the next day pretty bad.

The water heater has a Honeywell WV4400 series electronic gas control on it that the circuit board went bad on. I couldn't find a new, only used, boards on eBay. The whole gas valve assembly was about $250, he wasn't going to spend that much on a 9 y/o W/H.

A year or so ago he had it throw a 4-flashes trouble code (high limit shutdown) we couldn't get it restarted, but I put 'four flashes water heater' in a EweToob search and found there's an elaborate procedure to reset it. This time there was nothing. The thermopile was OK as was the high limit switch.

I'm not exactly sure why a gas water heater needs a micro controller in the first place, but they all seem to have them now. I prefer electric W/Hs they eliminate the standby losses. My W/H has 120V low-Watt-density elements in it. Recovery is slow, but I'm usually the only one here so it doesn't matter.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-03-16   11:52:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Esso (#10)

methadone

Dayum! Nope, not even gonna ask about that situation :-o

micro controller...they all seem to have them now.

Well, I looked and sure enough the new ones all seem to have digital controllers. Just one more thing to keep me up at night: the thought of having to replace my old reliable Whirlpool...and the collapse of civilization.

watchman  posted on  2024-03-16   12:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: watchman (#11)

Dayum! Nope, not even gonna ask about that situation

It's just for severe pain, I don't do drugs other than nicotine and di- ethyl alcohol. I can't imagine taking that shit for fun, it leaves me impaired and groggy for about 24 hours.

Rainman just called, I need to gear-up and shake it off before he fucks up too much.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-03-16   12:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: watchman, ghostrider (#11) (Edited)

We got the slab out of his dump trailer today on the pallet and on the ground. It basically involved dumping it out with some subtleties which worked out better than one could've hoped for.

We also got the pylons built for the bar. I came up with a way to offset the blocks so he can build a shelf underneath (kind of like a drawer) for bottles & stuff. It looks really good.

(Edit)I told Rainman to save that water heater box from yesterday to make a prototype shelf to see how it looks and works before Webby builds him one out of aluminum diamond plate (his idea) or expanded metal (my idea).

I figure a stretch-out pattern might help Web's retards fab it up too. It's not complicated, but everybody is so stupid now.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-03-16   18:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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