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Title: No aid to Gaza until hostages are set free.
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URL Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb ... k-trucks-carrying-aid-to-gaza/
Published: May 6, 2024
Author: Times of Israel
Post Date: 2024-05-06 21:42:20 by The_Rock
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Views: 782
Comments: 192

6 May 2024, 11:32 pm 11 Israeli protesters in Jerusalem are blocking trucks carrying humanitarian aid from Jordan to Gaza, Army Radio reports.
Right-wing activists have expressed anger at the provision of aid to Gaza while over 130 Israelis remain hostage in the Palestinian territory, and have, at times, attempted to block the aid.
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#41. To: watchman (#39)
Yes, he does.
Question: where does such hatred come from?

Says the person who hates Jews because they are Jews. Fact is the other day you justified the beating of Jews with sticks because they are "migrants".

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:25:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: The_Rock (#41)
Fact is the other day you justified the beating of Jews with sticks because they are "migrants".

What? Go read my post again.

watchman posted on 2024-05-09 19:27:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: watchman (#42)
#1. To: The_Rock (#0)
The Jews flood Europe with "migrants" then whine when it comes back to haunt them.
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

There is your post. You said they whine about getting beat with sticks.
You hate Jews like Hitler did. Your posts prove it.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:31:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: The_Rock (#24)
First I don't care what a lying sand nigger thinks.
The Jews are of God. They are the Chosen people to reveal his word.

You don't know who or what God is. The Jews wrote the book that claims they are a "chosen" people. They in reality chose to write what they did in order to control their own population and over time, much of the world.
You never answered my questions concerning the verse in Samuel that commands them to "smite" their perceived adversaries, including ALL of their men, their wives, mothers, sons and daughters, grandparents, pets, and livestock.
Do you think a Creator which created ALL of the Universe and beyond, would need to tell a group of people on Earth to commit genocide, if that Creator actually had a problem with those people?
Do you think that whoever wrote that verse, as well as any similar verses, was actually inspired by God?
Whoever imagined such a thing was possessed by a special sort of evil. And those are the people who constructed the Torah, never mind the Talmud.
That you support the murder of innocent people, most of whom are women and children, illustrates the sort of evil that has consumed you.
It is NEVER OK to "smite" anyone, no matter what your religion tells you.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:32:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: FormerLurker (#44)
You don't know who or what God is. The Jews wrote the book that claims they are a "chosen" people. They in reality chose to write what they did in order to control their own population and over time, much of the world.

Ok that is your opinion. A dumb one in my opinion. Now prove it. You can't.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:33:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: FormerLurker (#44)
You never answered my questions concerning the verse in Samuel that commands them to "smite" their perceived adversaries, including ALL of their men, their wives, mothers, sons and daughters, grandparents, pets, and livestock.
Do you think a Creator which created ALL of the Universe and beyond, would need to tell a group of people on Earth to commit genocide, if that Creator actually had a problem with those people?

Yeah.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:34:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: FormerLurker (#44)
Do you think that whoever wrote that verse, as well as any similar verses, was actually inspired by God?

Yes.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:34:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: The_Rock (#38)
Why do you think some people just hate Jews?

SOME people might "hate" them because of what they have suffered at their hand.
I think anyone who HATES someone for any reason is inviting darkness into their soul, consuming themselves with negative energy, and projecting that evil outwards which leads to more evil.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:35:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: The_Rock (#45)
Ok that is your opinion. A dumb one in my opinion. Now prove it. You can't.

Who do you think wrote the Torah?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:36:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: FormerLurker (#44)
Whoever imagined such a thing was possessed by a special sort of evil. And those are the people who constructed the Torah, never mind the Talmud.
That you support the murder of innocent people, most of whom are women and children, illustrates the sort of evil that has consumed you.
It is NEVER OK to "smite" anyone, no matter what your religion tells you.

I disagree. What if God had a plan to redeem mankind and a certain group of people is so evil they would disrupt that plan and not let mankind be redeemed. Since God knows the future he would know.
Since you don't have faith you can't understand that concept. Poor you.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:37:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: The_Rock (#46)
So you say God would command his "chosen" to commit horrific atrocities?
Are you sure that wasn't Satan they were talking to?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:38:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: FormerLurker (#49)
Who do you think wrote the Torah?

Moses as commanded by God.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:40:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: FormerLurker (#51)
Are you sure that wasn't Satan they were talking to?

Yep.
That is like saying it was evil to stop Hitler.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:41:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: BTP Holdings (#21)

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:44:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: The_Rock (#50)
I disagree. What if God had a plan to redeem mankind and a certain group of people is so evil they would disrupt that plan and not let mankind be redeemed. Since God knows the future he would know.

Any person who believes they have the divine right to inflict horrific suffering upon ANYONE, or even upon other creatures such as animals, fish, birds, etc. is not only consumed by evil, they are insane.
God could strike people dead with a natural disaster or divine intervention, he wouldn't order his "people" to commit horrifically evil deeds.
Evil begets evil.
Someone once wrote, "You will know them by their fruits".
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:44:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: The_Rock (#53)
So committing atrocities is OK if you're a Jew, is that your understanding of how things work?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:46:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: FormerLurker (#55)
God could

You're not God.
Destroying evil isn't evil.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:48:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: The_Rock (#57)
Destroying evil isn't evil.

Committing evil is.
And we are ALL children of God, even you Stone..
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:49:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#59. To: FormerLurker (#56)
So committing atrocities is OK if you're a Jew, is that your understanding of how things work?

No.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:50:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#60. To: The_Rock (#59)
No.

Then why do you support it and even advocate for it?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:50:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#61. To: FormerLurker (#58)
And we are ALL children of God

Let me correct you again.
“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:51:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#62. To: The_Rock (#61)
Whether or not a person call themselves a Christian makes no difference, we are all children of God. God created ALL that exists, within and beyond our own Universe.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:52:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#63. To: FormerLurker (#60)
The_Rock No. Then why do you support it and even advocate for it?

Because I believe in self defense.
You see they had a thing called a cease fire. Hamas broke it and now they are reaping what they sowed.
The Muslims regularly bomb Israel. Israel has a duty to protect their people. They don't have a duty to protect a people who are attacking them. Comprende?

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:53:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#64. To: FormerLurker (#62)
Whether or not a person call themselves a Christian makes no difference, we are all children of God. God created ALL that exists, within and beyond our own Universe.

You are a simple man. You are using your imagination to project what you think. You are not God.
If you want to know learn Gods word which is only found in the Bible.
It is impossible to please God without faith.
You can do it. Just pray sincerely for guidance.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:54:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#65. To: The_Rock (#61)
Some might even say that ALL that exists is part of God. All those before us and after us, ALL life, here and beyond, is what makes up what we call God.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:54:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#66. To: FormerLurker (#65)
Some might even say that ALL that exists is part of God. All those before us and after us, ALL life, here and beyond, is what makes up what we call God.

Yeah people can say that. Doesn't make it true.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:55:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#67. To: FormerLurker (#65)
On a side note. I like George Orwell. But he looks kind of stupid. You having that picture there makes it like it is you and looks kind of stupid.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 19:57:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#68. To: The_Rock (#64)
You are a simple man.

You obviously aren't a very self aware person and can't see the irony in what you wrote.
You believe the words of a Middle Eastern tribe, written thousands of years ago, to be the actual word of the Creator.
You're free to believe as you wish, but when your beliefs guide you to justify genocide, you should probably reexamine those beliefs.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 19:58:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#69. To: FormerLurker (#68)
justify genocide

What is going on in Gaza isn't genocide.
If Israel wanted to they could kill them all. They aren't. They are pretty restrained.
Now on the other hand if Hamas could kill all the Jews. They definitely would.
If you don't agree with that you aren't an honest person. Or at the least if poorly informed.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:00:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#70. To: FormerLurker (#68)
You believe the words of a Middle Eastern tribe, written thousands of years ago, to be the actual word of the Creator.

Pretty funny that the words of this "Middle Eastern Tribe" is affecting the whole world and is the topic of conversation worldwide for thousands of years. That Jesus is the most influential "person" to ever walk the earth. Why is that?

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:02:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#71. To: FormerLurker (#68)
You know what. Despite our disagreements and insults at each other. I like you. You are someone you can have a conversation with.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:03:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#72. To: The_Rock (#66)
Yeah people can say that. Doesn't make it true.

You never answered my question as to whether or not you've heard of the Kabbalah.
It's actually the third book of the Jewish faith, largely passed down orally but in recent years some of it published in various forms.
Where the Torah is said to be the foundation of the faith, and the Talmud the book of "learned men", the Kabbalah is what constitutes spiritual knowledge, most likely VERY ancient.
Some have twisted it and used it for ill intent, which might be why there is so much evil in this world today.
BUT, if you were to look into historical writings of the Essenes, you might understand a bit of what I'm talking about.
Essenes were similar to Buddhists in that they view ALL life as precious and avoid eating any meat.
They were well versed in the Kabbalah.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:07:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#73. To: The_Rock (#69)
What is going on in Gaza isn't genocide.
If Israel wanted to they could kill them all. They aren't. They are pretty restrained.

At least 30 thousand killed so far, many more severely injured, most of whom are innocent women and children.
Hospitals destroyed, medical staff tortured and killed, water supplies destroyed and food sources eliminated.
What do you call it if you don't call it genocide? Netenheyu himself referred to Palestinians as "Amalek", and so have you.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:11:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#74. To: FormerLurker (#72)
Kabbalah

I had never heard of it.
I googled it the other day.
I told you I didn't care about it because it wasn't part of the Bible
It seems to be some type of mysticism. Which I associate with the Occult.
So that is where I am at.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:15:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#75. To: FormerLurker (#73)
At least 30 thousand killed so far, many more severely injured, most of whom are innocent women and children.
Hospitals destroyed, medical staff tortured and killed, water supplies destroyed and food sources eliminated.
What do you call it if you don't call it genocide? Netenheyu himself referred to Palestinians as "Amalek", and so have you.

We don't know the number. War is full of liars on both sides. Propaganda.
We don't know who most is honestly.
Is a hospital a hospital when it is being used for military purposes. I say no.
You can't just fire from a hospital and store military stuff there and expect the people you attack almost every day for years and years to ignore that target. So that is a big yawn in my view. Hamas's fault.
Tortured. I call bullshit.
I saw Israel bringing in food and water aid. Who brings their enemy food and water in a war. Did the japs bring us good in WWII? Did the Germans bring us water in WWII. Why do you expect a people who are targets for extermination by various muslim nations to provide their enemies with supplies.
No mercy for Hamas or their supporters seems justified in my view.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:19:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#76. To: The_Rock (#70)
God never walked anywhere. Jesus, if he existed, was simply a man. The Essenes view him as a divine prophet, as do other religions which are derived from Abrahamic scriptures.
There are those who have used religion as their hold on power. The Romans controlled the ancient world, and created the Roman Catholic church and its Pope when their power began to wane.
The Roman Catholic Church controlled the empires of old Europe, deciding who would be king of those many different lands.
Judaism spread as well, mostly in secret.
But religion has always been used as the ultimate weapon across history.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:21:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#77. To: FormerLurker (#76)
But religion has always been used as the ultimate weapon across history.

If you gave up some of your bitterness you would be better off.

The_Rock posted on 2024-05-09 20:24:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#78. To: The_Rock (#75)
Is a hospital a hospital when it is being used for military purposes. I say no.

It's a hospital if it's used to treat the sick and injured, and has medical staff there doing what they can to save human life.
It's dubious at best that there were actually any military personnel there using them as a human shield. but whether or not there were is irrelevant.
A well trained and equipped special force could get in and neutralize any combatants. Instead those hospitals were bombed indiscriminately, medical staff murdered, taken prisoner and tortured.
That is what makes it intentional genocide.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:26:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#79. To: The_Rock (#77)
If you gave up some of your bitterness you would be better off.

Not only does history speak loudly, so does the present.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:26:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#80. To: The_Rock (#75)
I saw Israel bringing in food and water aid

It's well documented that Israel fired upon aid workers delivering food to starving civilians, and fired upon those civilians as well.
There is nothing righteous in what Israel has done.
IF they sent in special forces to target the actual combatants, that'd be self defense and they'd have that right to do so.
Indiscriminately killing a civilian population isn't self defense, it's a war crime.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker posted on 2024-05-09 20:30:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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