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Title: Charlie Kirk DISMANTLES Angry Anti Israel Students With Facts About Hamas (HEATED DEBATE)
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Published: May 12, 2024
Author: Charlie Kirk
Post Date: 2024-05-12 09:52:32 by The_Rock
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#1. To: The_Rock (#0)
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West Bank is not Gaza. Hamas is not in the West Bank. Israel invading forces are holding Palestinian families at gunpoint, then destroying the homes in Hebron in the occupied West Bank…
blogs.timesofisrael.com/f...ish-communities-in-judea- samaria/ For almost 50 years, Israel has endured censure from global bodies and foreign countries for its construction and development of Jewish communities in Judea & Samaria, referred to by the international community as the “West Bank”. These Jewish communities are routinely condemned as illegal and illegitimate under international law and wielded as a political tool with which to tarnish Israel’s reputation. However, this position glaringly fails to take into account elementary history, Jewish indigeneity to the Land of Israel, and the applicability of international law. Judea & Samaria form the heartland of the homeland of the Jewish People— the Land of Israel—which Jews have inhabited for 4,000 years. Since the era circa 2000 BCE when the biblical patriarchs and matriarchs first settled and constructed in Schechem, Beth-El, Ai, and Hebron (a.k.a. Mamre/Kiryat Arba), Jews have been an autochthonous people throughout the area.[1] Judea & Samaria consist of the ancient Israelite tribal territories of Judah, Benjamin, Ephraim, and west Menasheh.[2] Jewish predominance in the area ended as a result of the Jews being besieged and starved, slaughtered, sold into slavery, exiled, and expelled by their imperial Roman conquerors and occupiers following The Great Revolt (66-73 CE) and The Bar Kokhba Revolt (132-135 CE). Arabs only became a major presence in the area following the Islamic conquests of 634-636 CE under Caliph Umar’s imperial Muslim armies led by Khalid ibn al-Walid, Abu Ubaidah ibn al-Jarrah, Amr ibn al-A’as, and Shurahbeel ibn Hasana. Judea & Samaria never constituted an independent Arab state under sovereign authority. After being conquered by Sultan Selim I, these areas were controlled by the Ottoman Empire from 1516-1917, ruled as sub-districts of the province of Damascus from the imperial Ottoman capital at Istanbul.[3] Following the War of Independence of 1948, Jordan illegally occupied Judea & Samaria from 1948-1967 and prohibited Jews from living in these areas, contravening the Mandate for Palestine adopted by the League of Nations in 1922.[4] Jews finally reclaimed Judea & Samaria in the defensive Six Day War of 1967. In June 1967, with belligerent Arab armies from Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq poised to exterminate Israel, Israel launched pre-emptive strikes and within a week had achieved stunning victories which included regaining its historic heartland. As the aboriginal people of the Land of Israel, Israeli settlers are repatriating and repopulating the historic land of their forebears. The Fourth Geneva Convention (GCIV), an international treaty adopted in August 1949 in the wake of Nazi atrocities and signed by Israel in 1951, was designed to protect civilians and regulate the rules of war, not to rule on or arbitrate disputed territories.[5] From the normative Jewish/Israeli perspective, Judea & Samaria were areas liberated, not occupied, in 1967 and therefore Section III of the Fourth Geneva Convention does not pertain. Jews possess the legal right to settle in Judea & Samaria.[6] Section III, Article 49 (1) of the GCIV states: “Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.”[7] Since Israel regained control over Judea & Samaria in 1967, locals Arabs have not been forcibly displaced and today they number approx. 2.78 million alongside approx. 371,000 Jews.[8] Section III, Article 49 (6) of the GCIV states: “The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.”[9] Jewish inhabitants of Judea & Samaria are not forcibly implanted therein by Israeli governments, but reside there voluntarily. “The provisions of Article 49 (6) regarding forced population transfer to occupied foreign territory should not be seen as prohibiting the voluntary return of individuals to the towns and villages from which they, or their ancestors, had been forcibly ousted. Nor does it prohibit the movement of individuals to land which was not under the legitimate sovereignty of any state and which is not subject to private ownership. In this regard, it should be noted that Israeli settlements in the West Bank have been established only after an exhaustive investigation process, under the supervision of the Supreme Court of Israel, and subject to appeal, which is designed to ensure that no communities are established illegally on private land.”[10] While Israel does not accept that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies de jure, it has stated that on humanitarian issues it will govern itself de facto by certain GCIV provisions.[11] Jewish communities in Judea & Samaria are explicitly recognized as subject to exclusive Israeli jurisdiction within bilateral agreements between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs. These agreements affirm that settlements remain under Israel’s remit “pending the outcome of peace negotiations, and do not prohibit settlement activity.”[12] Numerous Israeli settlements have been re-established on sites formerly home to native Jewish populations, in an expression of the Jewish People’s profound historical and ongoing connection to its homeland, the cradle of Jewish civilization. A significant number of settlements are situated in loci where previous Jewish communities were forcibly expelled by Arab armies or militia, or slaughtered, as was the case with the ancient Jewish community of Hebron in 1929.[13] The only illegal or unauthorized (under Israeli law) settlements in Judea & Samaria are those Jewish outposts established without Israeli building permits. Outposts are small settlements usually consisting of less than 1,000 residents, some of which were established on state lands and others on private Arab land. Estimates of the number of outposts range from around 50 to over 100, depending on the classification of an outpost as a standalone entity or a settlement neighborhood. In recent years the Israeli government under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has determined to retroactively legalize at least some outposts on state lands and to dismantle those on privately-owned Arab property.[14] — [1] The Hebrew Bible, Genesis 11-37; Brandon Marlon, “What Judea & Samaria Mean to the Jewish People.” The Jewish Press, January 17, 2013. www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/what-judea-samaria-mean- to- the-jewish-people/2013/01/17/0/ [2] The Hebrew Bible, Joshua 13-19. [3] Jewish Virtual Library. “Pre-State Israel: Under Ottoman Rule.” n.d. www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Ottoman.html [4] Mitchell G. Bard. Myths and Facts: A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict. American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise, 2004. pp. 298-303. [5] The Levy Commission Report on the Legal Status of Building in Judea and Samaria. Article 65, “Conclusions and Recommendations.” June 21, 2012. web.archive.org/web/20150508072813/http://regavim.org.il/en/wp- content/uploads/2014/11/The-Levy-Commission-Report-on-the-Legal-Status- of-Building-in-Judea-and-Samaria2.pdf; The Jewish Virtual Library. “Human Rights in the Middle East: The Fourth Geneva Convention.” www.jewishvi rtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/ Human_Rights/geneva1.html [6] Eugene Rostow. American Journal of International Law. Vol. 84, 1990. p. 72.; Mitchell G. Bard. Myths and Facts: A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict. 2004. p. 300.; The Levy Commission Report on the Legal Status of Building in Judea and Samaria. Article 65, “Conclusions and Recommendations.” June 21, 2012. web.archive.org/web/20150508072813/http://regavim.org.il/en/wp- content/uploads/2014/11/The-Levy-Commission-Report-on-the-Legal-Status- of-Building-in-Judea-and-Samaria2.pdf [7] Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949. www.icrc.org/applic/ihl/i...T/380-600056?OpenDocument [8] Central Intelligence Agency. “The World Factbook.” Updated March 29, 2016. www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world- factbook/geos/we.html [9] Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949. www.icrc.org/applic/ihl/i...T/380-600056?OpenDocument [10] Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs. “Israeli Settlements and International Law.” Nov 30, 2015. www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/guide/pages/israeli%20 settlements%20and%20international%20law.aspx [11] Allan Gerson. Israel, the West Bank, and International Law, Routledge, Sept 28, 1978. p. 82. [12] Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs. “Israeli Settlements and International Law.” Nov 30, 2015. www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/guide/pages/israeli%20 settlements%20and%20international%20law.aspx [13] Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs. “Israeli Settlements and International Law.” Nov 30, 2015. www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/guide/pages/israeli%20 settlements%20and%20international%20law.aspx [14] Chaim Levinson and Barak Ravid. “Israel Vows to Raze All Illegal Outposts Built on Private Palestinian Land.” Haaretz. Mar 1, 2011. www.haaretz.com/israel-vows-to-raze-all-illegal- outposts-built- on-private-palestinian-land-1.346329
BREAKING: A mob of Israeli settlers attack Jordanian trucks carrying desperately needed humanitarian aid on the way to the besieged Gaza Strip, unloading and destroying bags of wheat flour.
who cares it isn't Israel's job to feed the enemy. in the meantime hamas shoots their own people because they got food aid.
What an absolutely twisted comment. If you're not familiar with the term "gas lighting" you should be. It comes from the 1944 film "Gaslight". The 80 year old flick is really an outstanding piece of drama, and the acting is quite good as you really want to murder the antagonist husband the entire second half of the film. I mention it because "gas lighting" is exactly what your comment is. Seriously? As though Israelis simply doing nothing and allowing the trucks to pass is somehow extra work for them? I gave you the benefit of a doubt the other day when I disagreed that you took pleasure in seeing innocent people dying. With your comment here, it seems I was wrong.
In its present context it's bullshit. Gaslighting is lying. There's no subtlety involved anymore. Gaslighting is lying, circa Prez Pedo. Good boy. That's one of my favorite films. How much lying was involved in that flick? It was a PsyWarOp. When folks were smarter. BREAKING: Israeli settlers set fire to trucks carrying humanitarian AID to Gaza.
I love you, big boy. Try banging a government-mandated killer. LOL
You get too angry watching it to keep count.
You must love Putin. It's a lesson, kiddo. Can you imagine how mad my Godson is at me for banging medical personnel types after he warned me about the 'shedding incidents?' Never fuck with a commercial flooring contractor. He's a short guy, but he broke my hands by hitting something with a sledgehammer. My and Pam's last ride... Yes. It feeds Hamas who wants them all dead. Hamas controls who eats and doesn't. Why would Israel help people who still have what 50 or 100 hostages. You shouldn't negotiate with hostage takers. Including 5 Americans and other foreigners. Showing mercy for murdering thugs like Hamas just shows weakness and the fighting to continue. Israel already offered to stop the war if Hamas released the hostages. Even Hamas thinks Jews are better than Palestinians. They think 1 Jew is worth what 20 or 50 Hamas terrorists. Palestinians targeting their own for taking humanitarian aid without Hmas approval. One of the victims is a child. twitt er.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1789072656647532583
You know sulamiman ahmed is a known liar right? checkyourfact.com/2024/02...eck-palestinian-teenager- israel-missing-context/
If you look at the video in post number 14. You can see that the Hamas uniform is civilian clothes. So anyone in civilian clothes must be Hamas. Or maybe Hamas just does that on purpose so Israel will kill civilians accidently.
Collective punishment, in the context of war, is deemed a war crime, but you advocate this war crime whereby it's okay, for 2 million people to be starved to death because of the actions of its government. You have no moral ground to stand on.
Humanitarian aid is for the millions of civilians stuck in Palestine. Hamas is a tiny fraction of that population and are not the ones preventing that aid from reaching the general population. Your video doesn't prove anything, other than Hamas are trigger happy idiots who shoot people without cause. That's if those gun toting fools are actually Hamas. Hmmm. Hamas does NOT wear uniforms. So maybe that explains the video, they were IDF trying to disguise themselves as civilians. The idea of a war crime is ludicrous. No such thing. It is fiction written by bureaucrats. All war is killing and bad. But there is a time for it when your back is to the wall.
The only civilians are those under 13. That is being generous.
Hamas doing that makes them all legitimate targets.
This thread is actually about Charlie Kirk. Do you agree with him on the video above? Also do if you know who he is do you generally agree with him?
Sure thing skippy, I'm sure you would have loved working for Hitler if he had been genociding Muslims instead of Jews. Just like the goat herders in Afghanistan eh? Beyond admitting your genocidal traits, you appear to condone the IDF dressing like civilians in order to indiscriminately murder whomever they want. I'm sure you would have been overjoyed if you had been in a Nazi unit in WWII, Gestapo or SS, targeting Roma, Russians, and/or Poles. Hell, if you had grown up there you might have been a Jew killer too. Or even going back to the American Revolution, being in the British units that wiped out American settlements because there MIGHT have been Militia among them. You know Stone, I can't figure out if you're TRYING to get people to hate Jews, or if you're just so simple minded you can't see the consequences of your words. If you're an example of the stereotypical Jew, I can see why they're hated across the world and have been for centuries. They apparently view themselves as THE master race and have the DIVINE right to kill, steal from, and eradicate whoever sits in the way of their total control over the rest of the world's people. It's as if THEY have become the Nazis that they claim to hate so much. So if the US ever gets invaded, you have no problem if your entire family gets tortured and slaughtered, eh? Stone, if you're such a gung ho warrior I think you should go join the IDF and go kill some babies and their moms.
Who was the poster here and elpee I believe with the tag line "Antisemitism is a disease, you catch it from Jews"
I don't remember bro, but apparently there was some wisdom there.. Other than the fact all Arabs are Semitic, not just Jews. You are an idiot that supports Hamas. Israel will wipe them out. Good for Israel. I know your grandpa would be ashamed of you for supporting nazis.
Yes they have a right to kill those who would kill them. Now you are catching on. Hamas are pussies just like you.
You really are a piece of shit.
You really are a dumb pos. No wonder Israel has to defend themselves from bigger pieces of shit than you. Same satanic mentality.
You need no help. If you lived in Germany you would have worked in a gas chamber for free.
Think that if it makes you happy, but no, I don't support Hamas, nor do I support the IDF. They are both homicidal maniacs, the sort of people you adore. Yeah you support Hamas raping Jews because you want all the Jews dead. Because you are in the Buddha cult.
So the Germans had the right to kill the Jews in WWII because the Jews MIGHT have tried to kill them? You said there is no difference between soldiers and civilians in war, right? You saying that makes you a sicko. But you Hamas supporters are messed up. You hate self defense. I guess you wont be voting for Trump because Trump thinks the same thing I do. Kill Hamas they are evil rapist terrorists.
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Netanyahu has ordered the demolition of over 3,500 Palestinian homes that will be used for settlements…
We are witnessing a genocide…🇵🇸💔 pic.twitter.com/Xcy8IaRAhI— Pelham (@Resist_05) May 12, 2024
#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)
#3. To: The_Rock (#2)
This comes as most of the Gaza Strip plunges into starvation amidst the strict Israeli… pic.twitter.com/6WT0CUmVGH— Quds News Network (@QudsNen) May 13, 2024
#4. To: Pinguinite (#3)
#5. To: The_Rock (#4)
who cares it isn't Israel's job to feed the enemy.
"It isn't Israel's job to feed the enemy?"
#6. To: Pinguinite (#5)
If you're not familiar with the term "gas lighting" you should be.
The 80 year old flick is really an outstanding piece of drama, and the acting is quite good as you really want to murder the antagonist husband the entire second half of the film.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
#7. To: All (#5)
This is barbaric. There are children starving...dying of hunger in Gaza.
Zionism is a cancer in humanity. pic.twitter.com/DrgaLXOYip— Sulaiman Ahmed (@ShaykhSulaiman) May 14, 2024
#8. To: Pinguinite (#5)
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
#9. To: Esso (#6)
How much lying was involved in that flick?
#10. To: Pinguinite (#7)
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
#11. To: Pinguinite (#9)
You get too angry watching it to keep count.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
#12. To: Pinguinite, Sling Blade, 4um (#9)
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TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
#13. To: All (#12)
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
#14. To: Pinguinite (#5)
Seriously? As though Israelis simply doing nothing and allowing the trucks to pass is somehow extra work for them?
#15. To: Pinguinite (#7)
#16. To: All (#14)
#17. To: The_Rock (#14)
#18. To: The_Rock (#14)
Yes. It feeds Hamas who wants them all dead. Hamas controls who eats and doesn't.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination 
#19. To: The_Rock, All (#16)
You can see that the Hamas uniform is civilian clothes
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#20. To: Pinguinite (#17)
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#21. To: FormerLurker (#18)
Humanitarian aid is for the millions of civilians stuck in Palestine.
#22. To: FormerLurker (#19)
Hmmm. Hamas does NOT wear uniforms
#23. To: Pinguinite (#7)
#24. To: The_Rock (#21)
The only civilians are those under 13. That is being generous.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#25. To: The_Rock (#22)
Hamas doing that makes them all legitimate targets.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#26. To: The_Rock (#22)
Hamas doing that makes them all legitimate targets.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#27. To: The_Rock (#22)
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"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#28. To: The_Rock (#22)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#29. To: The_Rock (#20)
The idea of a war crime is ludicrous. No such thing. It is fiction written by bureaucrats.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#30. To: The_Rock (#20)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#31. To: FormerLurker (#28)
#32. To: ghostrider (#31)
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"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#33. To: FormerLurker (#30)
#34. To: FormerLurker (#28)
They apparently view themselves as THE master race and have the DIVINE right to kill, steal from, and eradicate whoever sits in the way of their total control over the rest of the world's people.
#35. To: FormerLurker (#30)
Stone, if you're such a gung ho warrior I think you should go join the IDF and go kill some babies and their moms.
#36. To: FormerLurker (#29)
So if the US ever gets invaded, you have no problem if your entire family gets tortured and slaughtered, eh?
#37. To: FormerLurker (#28)
You know Stone, I can't figure out if you're TRYING to get people to hate Jews,
#38. To: The_Rock (#33)
You are an idiot that supports Hamas. Israel will wipe them out. Good for Israel.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#39. To: FormerLurker (#38)
I don't support Hamas
#40. To: The_Rock (#34)
Yes they have a right to kill those who would kill them.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#41. To: FormerLurker (#38)
the sort of people you adore.
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