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Title: 40th Anniversary of the Beirut Marine Corps Barracks Bombing
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://www.state.gov/40th-annivers ... marine-corps-barracks-bombing/
Published: May 19, 2024
Author: US Government
Post Date: 2024-05-19 23:59:48 by The_Rock
Keywords: None
Views: 1869
Comments: 26

On October 23, 1983, Hizballah killed 241 U.S. military personnel, including 220 Marines, 18 sailors, and three soldiers in a terrorist bombing of the Marine Corps barracks in Beirut, Lebanon. Minutes later, a second suicide bomber killed 58 French paratroopers. Six innocent Lebanese civilians also lost their lives. The abhorrent and shocking attack on the Beirut barracks remains to this day the single deadliest day for the U.S. Marine Corps since the Battle of Iwo Jima.

Today, forty years later, we mourn those service members of the Multinational Force in Lebanon lost in both attacks and we honor their legacy. We think of their families and friends, who continue to feel the painful absence of loved ones.

As we reflect on this day, and in light of the ongoing challenges in Lebanon and the region, we remain committed to building a brighter future for Lebanon, the Lebanese people, and the broader Middle East.

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#1. To: Esso (#0)

On October 23, 1983, Hizballah killed 241 U.S. military personnel, including 220 Marines

Looks like you should be mad at Hizballah not Israel.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-05-20   0:00:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: The_Rock (#1)

The fact that 5th century towelheads built and delivered the most powerful non-nuclear bomb in history, built by Israel is obvious.

Esso  posted on  2024-05-20   0:14:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Esso (#6)

Background Mr. Ames is in Omid because of the overwhelming evidence connecting the Islamic Republic of Iran to the 1983 bombing at the American embassy in Beirut.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-05-20   0:19:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: The_Rock, Pinguinite, 4um (#9)

OK, OK, OK, nutjob. I won't waste anymore time here.

Esso  posted on  2024-05-20   0:21:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Esso (#11)

OK, OK, OK, nutjob. I won't waste anymore time here.

Look you have good qualities and I was starting to like you.

I gave it an honest look and nothing came up.

I said if you showed me something I would look at it.

So go ahead and show me. But just saying it is obvious when every source says Iran, Islamic Jihad. That makes sense. The Ayatollah seized our embassy and they wanted to kill Americans.

Israel doing it doesn't make sense. Why would they want to murder Americans and piss off their best ally. Makes no sense.

Peace.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-05-20   0:27:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: The_Rock, Esso (#14)

Israel doing it doesn't make sense. Why would they want to murder Americans and piss off their best ally. Makes no sense.

Israel would only "piss off" the USA if the American public was convinced they did it. And as it stands now, Israel could almost say they did something like that and Israel supporters would scramble to find reasons to believe it was somehow reasonable.

Take 911. There is evidence Mossad had advance knowledge because of the 5 dancing Israelis were arrested that day as they celebrated the attacks and "documented" it with recording and held lighters in front of the camera to mock it's burning and destruction. But unconditional Israel supporters will choose to find some explanation that doesn't taint Israel.

But why would Israel at least celebrate the tower destruction, if not play a hand in making it happen? Obviously because the political fallout would greatly favor Israel. The event galvanized US public sentiment against Israel's enemies eventually leading to our destroying Iraq and Libya, invading Afghanistan and trying to destroy Syria. So why wouldn't Israel celebrate 911?

So to answer questions like "why" countries like Israel would facilitate such things, you have to look at the geo-political fallout the event causes and then ask "Who does this benefit?" Then you have your first suspects.

Take the Skripal chem weapon poisoning in the UK against a spy traded by Russia to the west. A very messy thing where chem weapon residue was left through sections of a UK city. Who benefits (and in this case, who is harmed) by the event?

The immediate political fallout was a huge alienation of Russia. Trump expelled some 60 Russians from the USA and imposed sanctions and the world condemned it. But how did this benefit Russia? It didn't in any way, apart from a theoretical idea that Russia wanted to send a message to the world that it will destroy all spies. Well, okay, but did the have to do that with a Russia chemical weapon that polluted the UK public sector? That is hardly how Putin operates as the guy is simply smart and cunning enough to not do that sort of thing. At least in my view.

No, what does make sense is that someone, somewhere, wanted to punish Russia for what they were doing at the time, and about the only thing of significance going on was they were saving Assad's butt by bombing ISIS and reversing their gains in Syria, which ultimately ended the matter. Now who would be upset at that?

Two countries would be upset at that: Saudi Arabia and Israel. Both countries want the Assad regime ended. Both therefore, had reason to cheer for ISIS and be angered at Russian interference in Syria.

So.... my money is on it being Israel that carried out the Skripal poisoning attack in the UK in order to frame Russia. Given the chem weapon was Russian made, it certainly had to have been a state actor, not some deranged criminal. Israel has also carried out assassinations before, as is well known. They tried to kill Arafat and then had to provide the antidote when they were caught. Israel assassinated Iranian nuke scientists as well, even forging an Irish passport along the way. Now regardless of whether one thinks Israel had justification for at least these 2 attacks is immaterial. What is material is that Israel has carried out extra judicial assassinations, and Israel certainly has within its means the ability to obtain small amounts of this chem weapon.

So... I say Israel has the means, motive and opportunity to carry out the Skripal attacks in order to frame Russia, and it worked all too well because of the Barney Fife style police investigation that instantly concluded that because it was a Russian chem weapon, it MUST have been Russia which couldn't be farther from the truth.

Yes, when it comes to international politics, there is no fair trial. Kind like the Covid vaxx also never got any fair trial at all and because of which now millions of people are dead or disabled.

Now you will reject my contention of Israel culpability out of hand because you are an unconditional Israel supporter and complain that the Israel is an ally of the UK. Well, that makes as much sense as Israel not hiring Jonathan Pollad to spy on the USA because Israel is an ally of the USA and then shamelessly (in spite of it being an admission of guilt) lobby persistently for his early release so they could reward him with free citizenship and so much more (paid for with redirected US aid) in Israel. What a great message that sends to other spies Israel hires!

So.... what did Israel potentially have to gain by the bombing of the Beruit barracks? What was the fall out?

1983 Beirut barracks bombings, terrorist bombing attacks against U.S. and French armed forces in Beirut on October 23, 1983 that claimed 299 lives. The attacks, which took place amid the sectarian conflict of the extremely damaging Lebanese civil war (1975–90), hastened the removal of the international peacekeeping force from Lebanon in February 1984.

So, the political effect was for US (and French) forces to be pulled out of Beruit, which is a very predictable outcome. So who did that benefit? If it benefited Israel, then Israel becomes a suspect. If it benefited Hezbollah, then they are a suspect. And both can be.

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-05-20   12:50:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: All (#24)

Seems pertinent to add here.

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-05-20   13:07:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Pinguinite (#25)

Seems pertinent to add here.

AKA: The banging an MD starter kit.

Esso  posted on  2024-05-20   16:39:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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