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Title: Elon Warns AI Will "Do Everything Better Than You", Make Employment Obsolete
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Published: May 25, 2024
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2024-05-25 20:35:46 by Horse
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I refuse to marry either of you! :) “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Robotics alone can make employment obsolete, but add in AI and it's all the more true. This is a real economic conundrum that human civilization has never faced before. The 40 hour work week was established due to the work of Henry Ford as he discovered that productivity quality dropped off after that many hours a week. The 40 hours wasn't settled upon because society/economy needed it, but because it was the most that could be efficiently provided by a quality worker. Fast forward to today, and production can be maxed out with less than 40 hours of human work per worker. So fewer peolpe are needed to make things or the same number of people could work fewer hours for maximum production. But then with less employment, how can workers make enough to buy what's needed? Unemployment goes up because fewer people are needed, and then homelessness goes way up like it is now. It's easy to then see the logic of concluding the world is full of too many useless eaters that should be exterminated with a vaccine. But I'm not sure there's an ethical solution to a world where anything can be produced cheaply but without having anything close to the whole world working to produce those things.
No AI bot has ever harvested even an acre of wheat, dude. US would have plenty of workers to do so except for LBJs dysgenic breeding progam.
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Farming is only one general area of economic production in an economy.
Without food we are all dead. “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Sure, we could scrape bark off of trees and boil it, but I'd rather not have to live like that.
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
My big, big question is why are we importing "migrants" (with all the problems they bring) to do work that could/should be done by citizens who are getting a free ride rather than working for a living. It sure as hell seems cheaper to bus morons from Joliet to Des Plaines rather than bus morons from Guatemala while paying for the morons already in Des Plaines to live in Section 8 apartments and do nothing but have more moron babies.
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
I hate to sound harsh (lol, actually I don't, I am just harshly realistic), but why should society pay for the care/upkeep/breeding of those who refuse to take responsibility for their own wellbeing?
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Motives vary. The migrants want to get out of poverty. They are in poverty in their home countries in part because the US dollar is the global reserve currency. It allows the US to constantly run a trade deficit. We export freshly printed cash -- electronic cash at that -- in exchange for the labor and production of the world. That lets the US basically enslave the world, depriving them of the goods and services that are being unfairly sent to the USA. So the world exports goods to the USA, and the USA replies sends cash dollars that basically go only to the elite in these 3rd world countries, not to the populous. Those in poverty see the US awash in cash and want to claim their share, so they migrate to the USA. US Elite are happy to have them come for political power purposes. End the US global reserve currency status and the trade imbalance ends, which brings average people in 3rd world countries more access to goods that are currently being unfairly sent to the USA. That's my theory, anyway.
I sometimes work 60 hours a week, but need a nap sometimes :) Henry Ford also introduced the $5/day in 1914, but there were strings attached, namely his spies would watch you night and day and if you drank/danced/rented a room to family/failed to attend church/smoked/swore you only got the 3.00/day base pay. Don't get me wrong, I think Henry was a genius, but for fucks's sake let's not celebrate him as some sort of libertarian idol, right? Melting Pot Ceremony at Ford English School, July 4, 1917 “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Correct - even cheaper labor than getting the idle welfare class to work. Do you you see the problem with that? “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
I worked with a guy who was from a very upperclass (and very leftist) background, had a MBA and he told me outright it was cheaper to keep blacks on welfare than to let them destroy small businesses through ingrained incompetence. I was shocked he admitted it, but he had no answer as to why there was no eugenic component in place. I wasn't suggesting murder or spaying, just an end to rewards.
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
I kind of see things as asking how much did Democrat cronies rake in building millions of public housing units like Cabrini Green? Same thing they are doing in California today with $750,000/each units for the "homeless". Democrats are scum, but so are Republicans. “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Made up fractional reserve bullshit never ends well. Like any other politically enforced lie. Don't expect to hear that on the news...:) “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Are you still there? lol “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
See Horse, I love you too! “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
I don't think what I said celebrated him but it seems he was the first to actually care or notice that there was a limit to how productive a human could be. My point was that in the current age of robotic industry, it's possible that all people could be supplied with basic needs with the average work week being somewhat less than 40 hours a week.
Though the fact that poverty & welfare increases birth rates should also be considered.
To me, Henry Ford's genius was in recognizing the idea that workers should be able to to buy the products of their labor. Mass production by the masses for consumption by a small elites tends to have limited appeal once the novelty wears off, seems like chores, lol. “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
My question is "is it wise" to just crank out a consumer class of primates (including white people) just because it is technologically possible? “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
My concerns about overpopulation stem from my experience growing up in the 1970s, when as prepubescent youth were daily traumatized by the specter of a planet burdened by a human population that had far exceeded it's capacity to sustain. I can easily find some 1970's ZPG propaganda if you doubt me. So why all recent rush to import other gene pools? Replacement of European genotypes for sinister motives is the only theory that makes sense. Jews want slaves, whites resist.
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
As a programmer, I love Henry Ford. I break every chore into the simplest steps possible. In 1913 that meant having Worker-X put screw-A into hole-B a thousand times a day, because Worker-X was probably an idiot and that was the best way to utilize the manpower Worker-X brought to the table. Unfortunately, I still deal with workers who would best be utilized if I had a hole for them to drop a screw into. Human nature, but that type should be discouraged from breeding. Or at least not subsidized to breed with food stamps, Section 8, and free cable so they can watch PMSNBC. :) “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
With the intake of pork and beans I can clear out a room silently. Lets see AI beat that.
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We were working Northwestern football games in Dyche Stadium in Evanson, Illinois. I cut a stinky fart and this girl in the stands was waving her hand in front of her face. My black partner told me, "Eat some more beans." LOL "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
the average work week being somewhat less than 40 hours a week. There are limits to one's endurance. But the Illinois State Highways did not care since in winter on the weekend we were called in 3 hours early for an 18 hour shift. That was 21 hours on the clock. I had to stop to nap a couple of times toward the end of that one. It is hard to sleep in a day cab, but we had hard hat with a liner to keep the ears and neck warm in winter. You simply pull over and put out the headlight and put the plow down. You swing your legs across onto the passenger seat with plow controls between your legs, put your head in the corner of the cab and nod off. You know you been sleeping when you wake up and the windshield is snow covered. I work with several people that are mentally impaired. We currently work 6 hour days. One of the worst off only works a half day until lunch. He always says to me, "I go home before you do." Big freaking deal. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
I'm pretty sure that violated OSHA regs. I don't think they make exceptions for civil emergencies.
It was our job to keep the roads open. Some storms were so heavy the roads were closed for days on end. One time they called for the loaders from the gravel pits with 7-yard buckets. The guy gets there and opens to door, "Where do you want it?" We told him, "Anywhere. Just get it off the road." He was throwing scoops over the guard rail. There was a flash of color. We stopped him. He threw a car over the guard rail. We put a chain on it and pulled it back up and set it on the road. There wasn't a scratch on it. The snow acted as a buffer. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
We worked so many concerts a lot of it is just a blur now. But there are some things that stick in your memory even with the meningitis. It was like one show at the World Music Theater in Tinley Park, Illinois. I was standing on the ramp that was where the back stage entrance was at. These four body builder dudes bullied their way down front and tried to slide into the 2nd row. I jumped off the ramp and said, "Get out of here NOW!" One guy wanted to stand in my face but his buddy grabbed his arm and dragged him away. They slid into the sides of the rows above. So, I lined up some back up. We had Vinnie White on our crew. He was our body builder. Then i wen t and picked the wimpiest one oof the four. 'let's see your ticket." "You have a Lawn ticket. You can't be down here." They tried to surround me. I flashed the flashlight and see bodies coming my way. I put up the flashlight and turn around. The same guy that was standing in front of me before was standing there again. I said to him, 'You don't understand English/ You have to go upstairs. He wouldn't move so I hit him under the Pecs and rocked him back on his heels. The guy behind him threw a beer in my face. I wiped it out of one eye THATFAST so I could see. I knocked this guy into the wall and went after the guy that threw the beer in my face. I caught him around the corner at top of ramp. Frankie was by the front gate. he told the cops, "Look. Fight." Then that guy I knocked into the wall grabbed my shirt with both hands. I said, "Get our hands off me." I knocked his hands off and reached up and pulled him down into a headlock. Then I put my arm on the other guy's throat. I had two of them. By the time the cops got there from the front gate the fight was over. Guys were coming from under the pavilion to get in on the fight. One of our guys standing at the top of the ramp didn't make a move to try to help. He wanted to shake my hand. I told him, "Next time you stand there and do nothing to help, I'm going to kick your ass too." Some of these guys wanted to be on the crew so they could listen to the music. They weren't about to get into any altercations. Besides, how do you think those four guys got down front? The got past HIM. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
I went to a hippyfest once in Germany with Punk once, during the Cold War, UB40, maybe? She killed everybody there. The CIA covered up the whole event. Google it. Sometime killing every one at hippy festivals is the right thing to do. Didn't work out too well for Hamas, but Live and Learn that's what I always say! :) Never fuck with Deep State sanctioned hippy plants, I guess? “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
"they all had victim faces" - Keith Richards “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Never fuck with CIA agents named Pam. She was a hottie back in the day. She was retired in 2008. I used to work with a guy from Lebannon, early 90's, super nice guy, Lebanese Christian, reminded me of Danny Thomas a little. Always wore weird suits which looked like the were designed about 1961 for Dick Van Dyke, but they were always clean and neatly pressed, I figured he had bought them back home. Anyway, his work started to deteriorate, at the same time he started telling me about domestic troubles. Turns out his wife was CIA (and Syrian, if I remember correctly). Last time I spoke with him I had been drinking and started in with "fuck CIA" goofy shit, he freaked and hung up. I don't blame him, I don't have the weight to keep him safe and he knew it. I'm just a smartass with a sharpened pinky nail. “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
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https://apnews.com/article/google-ai-overviews-96e763ea2a6203978f581ca9c10f1b07
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#7. To: Pinguinite (#6)
Farming is only one general area of economic production in an economy.
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#11. To: Dakmar (#9)
My big, big question is why are we importing "migrants" (with all the problems they bring) to do work that could/should be done by citizens who are getting a free ride rather than working for a living. It sure as hell seems cheaper to bus morons from Joliet to Des Plaines rather than bus morons from Guatemala while paying for the morons already in Des Plaines to live in Section 8 apartments and do nothing but have more moron babies.
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The 40 hour work week was established due to the work of Henry Ford as he discovered that productivity quality dropped off after that many hours a week. The 40 hours wasn't settled upon because society/economy needed it, but because it was the most that could be efficiently provided by a quality worker.
#13. To: Pinguinite (#11)
US Elite are happy to have them come for political power purposes.
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#16. To: Pinguinite (#11)
End the US global reserve currency status and the trade imbalance ends, which brings average people in 3rd world countries more access to goods that are currently being unfairly sent to the USA.
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#18. To: Horse (#1)
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#20. To: Dakmar (#12)
Don't get me wrong, I think Henry was a genius, but for fucks's sake let's not celebrate him as some sort of libertarian idol, right?
#21. To: Dakmar (#14)
I worked with a guy who was from a very upperclass (and very leftist) background, had a MBA and he told me outright it was cheaper to keep blacks on welfare than to let them destroy small businesses through ingrained incompetence.
#22. To: Pinguinite (#20)
I don't think what I said celebrated him but it seems he was the first to actually care or notice that there was a limit to how productive a human could be.
#23. To: Pinguinite (#20)
My point was that in the current age of robotic industry, it's possible that all people could be supplied with basic needs with the average work week being somewhat less than 40 hours a week.
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#25. To: Pinguinite (#20)
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I don't think what I said celebrated him but it seems he was the first to actually care or notice that there was a limit to how productive a human could be.
#26. To: Pinguinite (#24)
They showed this to my third grade class. Crime against humanity? Genocide? Child abuse?
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beans
#31. To: Pinguinite (#20)
he was the first to actually care or notice that there was a limit to how productive a human could be.
#32. To: BTP Holdings (#31)
That was 21 hours on the clock.
#33. To: Pinguinite (#32)
I'm pretty sure that violated OSHA regs. I don't think they make exceptions for civil emergencies.
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#36. To: Dakmar (#35)
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TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
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#39. To: Dakmar (#37)
Never fuck with Deep State sanctioned hippy plants, I guess?
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
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Never fuck with CIA agents named Pam.
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