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Title: Iran Paid Anti-Israel Protesters in America
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URL Source: https://www.theeditors.com/p/iran-paid-anti-israel-protesters
Published: Jul 9, 2024
Author: IRA STOLL
Post Date: 2024-07-09 16:45:42 by The_Rock
Keywords: None
Views: 880
Comments: 28

The director of national intelligence, Avril Haines, says the U.S. intelligence community has “observed actors tied to Iran’s government posing as activists online, seeking to encourage protests, and even providing financial support to protesters.”

Haines made the disclosure in a July 9, 2024 press release. She said it was for the purpose of “informing the public of foreign efforts to influence our democratic processes.”

“In recent weeks, Iranian government actors have sought to opportunistically take advantage of ongoing protests regarding the war in Gaza,” Haines said. “Americans who are being targeted by this Iranian campaign may not be aware that they are interacting with or receiving support from a foreign government.”

The U.S. intelligence community typically functions separately from law enforcement, but in the past, some federal prosecutors have brought cases about attempted Iranian influence on American public opinion. President Biden pardoned one such figure in 2023 as part of a deal to obtain the release of American hostages held by Iran.

Haines, a Biden appointee who was deputy national security adviser during the Obama administration, took care not to portray all anti- Israel protesters as Iranian dupes. “I want to be clear that I know Americans who participate in protests are, in good faith, expressing their views on the conflict in Gaza – this intelligence does not indicate otherwise. Moreover, the freedom to express diverse views, when done peacefully, is essential to our democracy,” she wrote, “but it is also important to warn of foreign actors who seek to exploit our debate for their own purposes.”

Haines said she’d be offering more updates on foreign influence efforts as the 2024 campaign season progresses.

Absent from the statement was any explanation about what the U.S. government is doing to try to stop the Iranian meddling. Has it tried to shut down the bank accounts or social media accounts that the Iranians are using? Has it conveyed a diplomatic message through the Embassy of Switzerland or through other channels to Iran to cut it out?

A foreign policy official who served in the Reagan, George W. Bush, and Trump administrations, Elliott Abrams, has a post up on his Council on Foreign Relations blog calling out the ineptitude of the Biden administration in Middle East diplomacy, writing, “As I have watched U.S. diplomacy since October 7, the phrase that has kept on coming back to me is Casey Stengel’s after his 1962 Mets racked up a modern record of 120 losses: ‘Can’t anybody here play this game?’”

“Isn’t it obvious that as between Iran and the world’s greatest superpower, Iran and not the United States should be afraid of escalation?” Abrams writes. “The record is clear that the Iranian leadership shies away from confrontation with the United States, so why are our diplomats expressing the greater fear of escalation?”

Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election spawned endless investigations and news articles and accusations. It’d be strange if the disclosure of Iranian activity in the U.S. in the midst of the 2024 campaign fails to arouse similar levels of concern.

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#6. To: The_Rock (#0) (Edited)

Iran

Iran has been a hotbed of intrigue since the ouster of the lawfully elected Prime Minister in 1953 and the installation of Shah Reza Pahlavi. He was a CIA shill.

The Savak was the Shah's secret police, and they terrorized the population and kept everyone in line.

That didn't end until the student uprising in 1979 and the seizure of the U.S. Embassy for 444 days until Ronald Reagan was inaugurated. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-07-09   19:21:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BTP Holdings (#6)

The Shah was better than the alternative. He kept the fanatics in check for the better good.

The Shah > everyone that followed him.

The Shah didn't kill women for not wearing a bag over their head.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-09   20:17:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: The_Rock (#7)

From SAVAK - Wikipedia

A turning point in SAVAK's reputation for ruthless brutality was reportedly an attack on a gendarmerie post in the Caspian village of Siahkal by a small band of armed Marxists in February 1971, although it is also reported to have tortured to death a Shia cleric, Ayatollah Muhammad Reza Sa'idi, in 1970.[15][16] According to Iranian political historian Ervand Abrahamian, after this attack SAVAK interrogators were sent abroad for "scientific training to prevent unwanted deaths from 'brute force.' Brute force was supplemented with the bastinado; sleep deprivation; extensive solitary confinement; glaring searchlights; standing in one place for hours on end; nail extractions; snakes (favored for use with women); electrical shocks with cattle prods, often into the rectum; cigarette burns; sitting on hot grills; acid dripped into nostrils; near-drownings; mock executions; and an electric chair with a large metal mask to muffle screams while amplifying them for the victim. This latter contraption was dubbed the Apollo—an allusion to the American spacecraft of the same name. Prisoners were also humiliated by being raped, urinated on, and forced to stand naked.[17] Despite the new 'scientific' methods, the torture of choice remained the traditional bastinado used to beat soles of the feet. The "primary goal" of those using the bastinados "was to locate arms caches, safe houses and accomplices ..."[18]

You love that sort of stuff don't you Stone.

FormerLurker  posted on  2024-07-09   20:49:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FormerLurker (#9)

Ayatollahs killed more than shah The Ayatollahs, led by Ruhollah Khomeini, were responsible for the execution of thousands of political prisoners during their rule in Iran. This is in contrast to the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who was known for his authoritarian rule but did not engage in mass executions.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-09   21:00:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: The_Rock (#10)

Problem is, evil people control governments across the world, not just in Iran, and not just in 3rd world countries..

FormerLurker  posted on  2024-07-09   21:03:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FormerLurker (#11)

Problem is, evil people control governments across the world, not just in Iran, and not just in 3rd world countries.

Yep.

Is it also evil to imply that I like it as you claimed? Because that wasn't a true statement.

I only said the Shah was better than those who followed him. He kept worse people in check.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-09   22:45:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: The_Rock (#12)

I'm pretty sure you'd disagree about the Shah being "better" if you were one of the SAVAK's victims.

FormerLurker  posted on  2024-07-09   23:00:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#13)

I'm pretty sure you'd disagree about the Shah being "better" if you were one of the SAVAK's victims.

You must love the mass killings of people who aren't muslims. According to the "logic" you used upthread.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-10   0:03:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: The_Rock (#14)

You must love the mass killings of people who aren't muslims. According to the "logic" you used upthread.

That you support the genocidal monsters who control the Israeli government tells me enough about you to determine you find nothing wrong with the tactics of the SAVAK. You even try to portray them as a "better" alternative than the Islamic fundamentalists who may have committed mass murder.

So rounding up dissidents and shoving broken glass and boiling water up their rectums, tearing off their genitals, acid drops in the nose, is all perfectly cool with you, because they were in cahoots with the CIA. Got it.

FormerLurker  posted on  2024-07-10   7:07:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker (#15)

You spout nonsense. You support islamists and mass killings if you follow your own standards you said about me. It's just a fact. You think Israel should just roll over and be murdered. Kind of like a Democrat who doesn't think you should have guns or defend yourself. It's quite delusional.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-10   7:51:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: The_Rock (#16)

Keep spewing your lies, spawn of satan.

You support killing ANYONE if it is something the deep state wants.

Deliberately bombing hospitals, apartment buildings, and food convoys isn't "self defense".

Sadistic torture of ANY creature, man or beast, is against the laws of God.

You said you supported the Shah of Iran, who inflicted unspeakable suffering against political dissidents. You try to justify it by reflecting your support of such things to me, as you have no logical argument to make.

Unlike you I've never supported atrocities, no matter who commits them, and no matter who the victims are.

FormerLurker  posted on  2024-07-10   9:52:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#17)

This is what Stone supports...

watchman  posted on  2024-07-10   15:11:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: watchman (#19)

Why do you insist on lying all the time? I believe the Bible not some Babylonian forgery.

I have plenty of flaws and sins. But lets keep it honest.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-10   18:24:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: The_Rock (#20)

I believe the Bible

Then believe this:

And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck. Genesis 27:40

Esau has dominion now.

For example, they have dominion over your vote:

Edom means red.

watchman  posted on  2024-07-11   6:19:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: watchman (#23)

I believe the Bible Then believe this:

And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck. Genesis 27:40 Esau has dominion now.

For example, they have dominion over your vote:

You taking a passage of scripture from Genesis that was to a specific person in a specific circumstance and a specific timeframe 6000 or so years ago. That is why Jesus warned us about you.

Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-11   7:45:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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