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Title: Israel PM Netanyahu Praises Trump’s Plan for Mexico Border Wall
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URL Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/israel ... -mexico-border-wall-1485634834
Published: Jan 28, 2017
Author: Rory Jones
Post Date: 2024-07-12 19:35:38 by The_Rock
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Views: 5321
Comments: 19

TEL AVIV—Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday praised plans by U.S. President Donald Trump’s new administration to build a wall on the Mexico border, saying his country’s own barrier on the Egyptian border had halted illegal immigration.

“I built a wall along Israel’s southern border. It stopped all illegal immigration,” Mr. Netanyahu wrote on his official Twitter account, adding emoticons of the U.S. and Israeli flags. “Great success. Great idea.”

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#1. To: The_Rock (#0)

“I built a wall along Israel’s southern border...Mr. Netanyahu wrote on his official Twitter account

And thou (Gog) shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; Ez.38:11

Kind of puts a crimp in the whole Gog/Magog prophecy occurring prior to the tribulation, or the coming of the "messiah".

The Bible is clear...the Gog/Magog war occurs 1000 years in the future.

Looks like they'll have to fake the whole thing. Should be interesting.

watchman  posted on  2024-07-12   19:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: The_Rock (#0)

Netanyahu

Johns Hopkins genetic study shows 97.5% of Judaics living in Israel have absolutely no ancient Hebrew DNA, are therefore not Semites, and have no ancient blood ties to the land of Palestine at all. Whereas 80% of Palestinians carry ancient Hebrew DNA and thus are real Semites...Israeli geneticist Eran Elhaik

watchman  posted on  2024-07-12   19:59:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: watchman (#1)

The Bible is clear...the Gog/Magog war occurs 1000 years in the future.

You have said that before. But you never showed any reason to believe that.

It doesn't say that at all. That is speculation at best on your part or perhaps another of your lies.

You do lie that is a fact. You've said like 10 times you put me on bozo. Only to have you comment mere hours later.

I'm open to being convinced I am wrong generally speaking. You have never put up any evidence for any of your pet theories though.

I mean the last time you tried to prove something you said the dollar has stars on it so it proves modern day Israelis aren't related to ancient Hebrews. Your comments are absurd.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-12   20:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: watchman (#2)

Johns Hopkins genetic study shows 97.5% of Judaics living in Israel have absolutely no ancient Hebrew DNA

You get your news from facebook. No wonder you are so deceived.

A 2012 study proves 97.5 per cent of Jews living in Israel have no genetic ties to the land, social media users are claiming.

This is false. The study, which looked at the ancestry of European Jews, did not involve any Jews living in Israel.

The claim has appeared in dozens of Facebook posts amid the ongoing Israel-Hamas War.

Most versions contain the wording: “Johns Hopkins genetic study shows 97.5% of Judaics [sic] living in Israel have absolutely no ancient Hebrew DNA, are therefore not Semites, and have no ancient blood ties to the land of Palestine at all. Whereas 80% of Palestinians carry ancient Hebrew DNA and thus are real Semites”. Many of the posts link to an article published on a website called VT Alternative Foreign Policy.

The article’s headline reads “John’s Hopkin’s [sic] Genome Study Proves Jews ‘Interlopers’ in Palestine…no ‘Semitic Blood’ WHATSOEVER” and refers to a 2012 academic article in the journal Genome Biology and Evolution.

This article explores the controversial hypothesis that Ashkenazi Jews, who have significant European ancestry, descend from the Khazars, a Turkic people who lived in southern Russia, the Caucasus and Kazakhstan in the Middle Ages.

Article author Dr Eran Elhaik wrote that Ashkenazi Jews do have genetic links to the ancient Khazars, with roots also in the Middle East and Europe.

In an interview shortly after the academic article’s publication, he said his findings suggest only a small proportion of the genetic makeup of European Jews is linked back to Israel.

However, he told AAP FactCheck the claim that his study proves 97.5 per cent of Jews living in Israel have no genetic connection to the area is false.

He confirmed his study did not look at Israeli Jews – or “Judaics (sic) living in Israel” as the claim puts it.

“I did not [include Israeli Jews in the study sample],” Dr Elhaik told AAP FactCheck.

Dr Elhaik’s study came in for criticism, in particular for his use of DNA from modern Caucasus peoples as a proxy for ancient Khazars.

Professor Emeritus Karl Skorecki, a genetics expert at Israel’s Bar-Ilan University, co-wrote a 2013 paper refuting Dr Elhaik’s research, finding no evidence of a Khazar origin for Ashkenazi Jews. He also found Ashkenazi ancestry is primarily Middle Eastern and European.

Prof Skorecki told AAP FactCheck the social media claims are false.

Notwithstanding his criticism, he said Dr Elhaik’s paper (on which the social media claims are based) only considered one component of Jewish Israelis – Ashkenazis – who he said comprise less than 50 per cent of current Israeli Jews.

A 2018 paper puts the figure at 32 per cent.

“The post is yet another among myriad unsubstantiated and discredited claims that have been made regarding the genealogic and genetic affinities of Jews and Arabs in Israel,” Prof Skorecki said.

There have been various studies looking at Jewish ancestry over recent decades with varying results.

This 2020 study looked at ancient DNA samples in present-day Israel, Jordan and Lebanon. It found most modern Jewish groups, including those living in Israel, could draw more than 50 per cent of their ancestry from sources related to the ancient Middle East.

Study co-author Shai Carmi, a computational genetics researcher at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, told AAP FactCheck that it’s impossible to precisely estimate the Middle Eastern proportion of Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry, but studies indicate it is between 15 and 50 per cent.

“I don’t see any citations in this post and, to the best of my knowledge, these numbers are made up,” Prof Carmi said of the claim.

THE VERDICT The claim that a study proves 97.5% of Jewish people in Israel have no genetic ties to the land is false.

The study, which looked at the ancestry of European Jews, did not involve any Jews living in Israel.

It instead found that European Jews are largely descended from the Khazars.

False – The claim is inaccurate. www.aap.com.au/factcheck/...misrepresented-in-jewish- ancestry-claim/

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-12   20:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: watchman (#1)

The Bible is clear...the Gog/Magog war occurs 1000 years in the future.

This article seems to make good points why this doesn't happen in the timeframe you believe it does. It seems to make good points to me. Show where it is wrong if you have the inclination.

Second View – Ezekiel 38-39 Occurs After The Millennium The second view says that Ezekiel 38-39 describes the battle that occurred after the millennial kingdom in Revelation 20:7-10. A major point in support of this view is that Revelation 20:7-10 refers to God and Magog engaging in battle after the millennial kingdom.

And when the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore. And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Revelation 20:7-10 (NASB)

But there are two reasons to reject this view. First, we are told that Satan will be influential enough to deceive all the nations of the world into attempting to destroy the beloved city or Jerusalem. On this occasion there is nothing left of the invading armies after fire descends from heaven and consumes all of the armies. The Greek word for “devoured” supports this conclusion, since it is katesthio, which means “to completely destroy.” That is, there is nothing left of the armies and weapons. But Ezekiel 39:9-14 states that Israel will be destroying the weapons and dead bodies. This is a major problem for this view.

A second major reason to reject this view is that Ezekiel 39:9-10 states that Israel will spend seven years destroying the weapons from the battle and taking spoils, and seven months burying the corpses of the dead army soldiers (Ezekiel 39:11-14). Why would God give the nation of Israel seven months to bury dead soldiers after the millennium, when the universe will be destroyed and then immediately the great white judgment will occur (Revelation 20:11-15)? Therefore, this view is rejected.

www.neverthirsty.org/bibl...chives/question/does-the- battle-of-gog-and-magog-occur-after-the-second-coming/

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-12   20:41:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: The_Rock (#3)

bozo.

My browser signs me out. When signed out all comments appear. When I see one of your comments that needs to be addressed biblically, I will clear the filter so that I can comment.

I'm open to being convinced

I'm not really trying to convince you of anything. You have an agenda that supersedes reasoning.

My goal is to present my beliefs pertaining to the Bible. Many readers hear you claim you are God's Chosen People, and therefore have the right to kill others. My belief is that Jews today have no connection to the Israelites of the Old Testament. I bring out the attending Scriptures and let people decided for themselves.

watchman  posted on  2024-07-12   21:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: The_Rock (#5)

FactCheck

lol

watchman  posted on  2024-07-12   21:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: The_Rock (#5)

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Rev. 20:7,8

Scripture (Rev. 20:7,8) interprets Scripture (Ezekiel 38-39)...it's clear to me when Gog attacks...when there are no walls and Jerusalem is inhabited by "them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates"

Jerusalem is certainly not at rest now...there is a war going on, and Israel is looking to increase their conflicts with surrounding nations. They have walls, bars, and gates (checkpoints) everywhere

watchman  posted on  2024-07-12   21:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: watchman (#7)

FactCheck lol

lol that author of the article said your interpretation was BS.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-12   21:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: watchman (#8)

So armies are built during the millennial reign?

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-12   21:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: The_Rock (#10)

So armies are built during the millennial reign?

Both Ezekiel and Revelation make it abundantly clear...even with the physical presence of both Christ and King David, a percentage of the men and women will want to have nothing to do with the millennial government. These men and their families will move to the outer reaches of the kingdom. Add Satan to the mix and these men will gather up primitive weapons (just as Ezekiel describes) and will attack the peaceful city.

watchman  posted on  2024-07-12   21:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: watchman (#8)

.when there are no walls and Jerusalem is inhabited by "them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates"

Maybe there is a war. Then a peace treaty. Then they think they dwell safely, and there is no walls.

Or maybe there is more the no walls that I am not seeing.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-12   22:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: watchman (#8)

Land without walls

Go up to the land of unwalled villages

Them that are at rest

If Scripture interprets scripture, please see Zechariah 2:4

I will create Jerusalem as towns without walls for all the men and cattle thereof.

I'm on my phone and it's a pain but just want to state that those prophecies fit Christian America, you know, the one founded with a cross and a charter to spread the gospel, far better than the old Jerusalem which the book of revelation refers to as the whore of Babylon. Zechariah 2 also says God's Zion would be dwelling with the daughter of Babylon. Also that HE would be the wall around JerUSAlem. Christ also told the Pharisees the kingdom was being taken from them and given to a nation bearing the fruits thereof

We are currently being invaded by at least 170 countries, including millions of fighting age men from China.

God said He would bring all nations to JerUSAlem to battle

UN RUN TERRORIST TRAINING CAMP FOR INVASION OF AMERICA

stateofthenation.co/?p=214973

INVASION OF AMERICA IN PROGRESS

stateofthenation.co/?p=237074

Fighting age men in military uniforms entering Arizona

stateofthenation.co/?p=238534

Just a few of the many articles exposing what is going on. I am amazed so few recognize it for the gog and Magog prophecy it is except that Revelation 20 says the nations are deceived...as they are gathered together for battle...where He is gathering them as sheaves to the fire... Micah 4.

The enduring legacy of the first landing

https://www.wnd.com/2007/04/41327/

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2024-07-14   3:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#13)

INVASION OF AMERICA IN PROGRESS

The Bidette has thrown open the borders.

You cannot get a hotel room in NYC since they are all being taken up by illegals. I saw an interview with one woman illegal and she said she was going to Texas since it looked like there were opportunities there.

So, who is paying for her flight? The USG, that is who is paying.

But don't worry. the funding is unlimited. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-07-14   9:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#13)

God said He would bring all nations to JerUSAlem to battle

We are not Jerusalem. That is just goofy.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-14   10:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: The_Rock (#15)

Believe and propagate what you like. The old Jerusalem is the whore of Babylon...and we are dwelling with her daughter. That's not a cross above the eagle's head on the US Great Seal. Her people are the ones going to Panama and driving and flying the invaders into and throughout this country, "the many people with thee".

And as far as those people claiming some special status in the Jewish nation, Jesus said cut down that fig tree...and "let no fruit grow on thee FOREVER". Look it up

He told the Christians "your fruit shall remain" John 15:15-16...fulfills Isaiah 65:15 with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.

I'd suggest people start worshipping Christ and not the antichrist system.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2024-07-14   13:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: The_Rock (#0)

So netanyahu now wants to build a wall after the invasion has been ongoing for years. Can only mean they intend to bar the doors as Obama said and let the RED WEDDING begin. Apparently the RED WEDDING is from the Game of Thrones and the ultimate betrayal.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2024-07-14   14:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#17)

So netanyahu now wants to build a wall after the invasion has been ongoing for years.

He said it right after Trump was sworn in. The date is on the article above.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-07-14   14:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, The_Rock (#17)

Someone needs to ask him if he knows what happened during the Babylonian exile? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-07-14   15:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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