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Title: What was Reagan doing at Bohemian Grove?
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Published: Jun 10, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-06-10 20:34:26 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
Like Nixon, Baker, and the rest - he waiting for the show to commence. I guess. Who the hell are the rest of those puds? Thanks.
Dov Zakheim Dov ZakheimDr. Dov S. Zakheim is a former political and economic adviser to the United States government. Zakheim earned his baccalaureate in government from Columbia University in 1970, and his doctorate in economics and politics at St. Antony's College, Oxford University. He has been an adjunct professor at the National War College, Yeshiva University, Columbia University and Trinity College (Connecticut), where he was presidential scholar. He is an ordained Orthodox Jewish rabbi. He served in various Department of Defense posts during the Reagan administration, including Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Planning and Resources from 1985 to 1987. During the 2000 U.S. Presidential election campaign Zakheim served as a foreign policy advisor to George W. Bush as part of a group led by Condoleezza Rice that called itself The Vulcans. In 2001, Zakheim was CEO of SPC International, a subsidiary of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor specializing in electronic warfare technologies including remote-controlled aircraft systems. He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a member of the editorial board of the journal, The National Interest. At the time of the attack which destroyed the World Trade Center, Dov Zakheim was the Comptroller of the Pentagon, appointed in May 2001. He is a member of the Project for a New American Century and participated in the creation of its controversial 2000 position paper Rebuilding America's Defenses. During his tenure of Comptroller 2.6 trillion dollars were found unaccounted for by an audit of the Pentagon budget [1]. He was then appointed to be Undersecretary of Defense from 2001 to 2004 under the George W. Bush administration, and served in this capacity until April 2004. He is currently a Vice President of Booz Allen Hamilton. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Dov_S._Zakheim for links
In your opinion, are the Zionists or the Mexicans a bigger threat to us?
First you have to define "us". If by us you mean the nation and political entity known as the United States of America, well it's already dead -- as amply documented in Jethro Tull's "over 40" thread. Remnants live on, posting on internet discussion groups; the flotsam of their time can be found in antique shops. (But is flotsam that serves as an important reminder, and can be incorporated in a renewed, but different foundation.) It takes a long time for the nails and hair to stop growing. ( One word: "Makeovers." It is a non-tradeable domestic service...) If by us you mean yourself, the "over 40" thread commenters, and their friends and relatives, then both are huge problems, but the immediate threat is the Mexicans -- a subject on which some religious Zionists are in agreement with us. You must also define Zionism. Some say it is the same thing as the NWO. I disagree. When I say Zionism I mean support for the preservation of the state of Israel as an explicitly Jewish state. On that question I maintain steadfast agnosticism. At the last AMREN conference, David Duke raised (very politely) the Jewish Question. Conference speaker Guillame Faye's answer was that we have to be very acute in our strategy; we must fight on two different fronts, and not by the same means. For Faye, Jews are like "eskimos" -- they don't exist. There is nothing like the BNP in the US. Nick Griffin might know a thing or two. Speaking for myself, I was ready to consider the reality of race long before I was ready to consider the Question. Took a Polack on LF to show me I had a mental block to thinking about Jews in the same way as any other group. Took up residence in my lymph nodes or something. Even if Zionism is the bigger threat, you still would not have been able to get me to consider it without addressing other things first. ( Just to show you how oblivious I was: A secular Jewish fellow I knew in school dated and obviously loved this one shiksa; she loved him in return, and wanted to marry him. He demurred. I asked him about it, and he said that if he ever married, he wanted to marry a Jewish woman. Believe it or not, this genuinely puzzled me; after all, he didn't believe in a god, any more than I did. How could this matter? I pointed this out to him and he shrugged, but otherwise kept silent. What bothers me about that today is not his motive for not marrying a goy, which is obvious in hindsight and with which I sympathize, but the fact that he wasn't straight with me.) In principle, Zionists do not have to be enemies. They are nationalists, and therefore could even be allies against the NWO. Our sixty+ years of entanglement makes this difficult. Good fences do make good neighbors. I think on balance it is probably a strategic mistake to pay much attention to the plight of the Palestinians. The emphasis should be on the entanglement. If it were not for the entanglement, that particular conflict needn't be of any interest. Leftists emphasize the Palestianians as a means to erode the national character of Israel. More on AIPAC and USS Liberty; less on "social justice" and "democracy". ( American Jews comprise half the upper echelon of the Israeli political party for those poor Ethiopean Jews, so Israeli Zionists have good reasons for disentangling too! The "One Future" party might be taken as evidence that God exists, and he has a delicious sense of humor.) Highlighting the Palestinians might bring an end to this particular entanglement, but it leaves the principle of intervention untouched. It is just as likely that the entanglement will remain, but with a "reformed" Israel, stripped of its national character. Which would make it much harder for us to calmly but firmly assert our own interests, here in the US, because doing so would require at least some small amount of hypocrisy.
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#2. To: lodwick (#1)
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#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate. Anyone who cares to comment on this one (#2)
#28. To: lodwick (#4)
In your opinion, are the Zionists or the Mexicans a bigger threat to us?
#34. To: Tauzero (#28)
Great thoughts - thanks.
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