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Title: Beware: the new goths are coming (warning to the UK re immigration)
Source: Sunday Times UK
URL Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2220267,00.html
Published: Jun 11, 2006
Author: Peter Almond
Post Date: 2006-06-11 14:59:01 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 174
Comments: 9

ONE of Britain’s most senior military strategists has warned that western civilisation faces a threat on a par with the barbarian invasions that destroyed the Roman empire.

In an apocalyptic vision of security dangers, Rear Admiral Chris Parry said future migrations would be comparable to the Goths and Vandals while north African "barbary" pirates could be attacking yachts and beaches in the Mediterranean within 10 years.

Europe, including Britain, could be undermined by large immigrant groups with little allegiance to their host countries — a "reverse colonisation" as Parry described it. These groups would stay connected to their homelands by the internet and cheap flights. The idea of assimilation was becoming redundant, he said.

The warnings by Parry of what could threaten Britain over the next 30 years were delivered to senior officers and industry experts at a conference last week. Parry, head of the development, concepts and doctrine centre at the Ministry of Defence, is charged with identifying the greatest challenges that will frame national security policy in the future.

If a security breakdown occurred, he said, it was likely to be brought on by environmental destruction and a population boom, coupled with technology and radical Islam. The result for Britain and Europe, Parry warned, could be "like the 5th century Roman empire facing the Goths and the Vandals".

Parry pointed to the mass migration which disaster in the Third World could unleash. "The diaspora issue is one of my biggest current concerns," he said. "Globalisation makes assimilation seem redundant and old-fashioned . . . [the process] acts as a sort of reverse colonisation, where groups of people are self-contained, going back and forth between their countries, exploiting sophisticated networks and using instant communication on phones and the internet."

Third World instability would lick at the edges of the West as pirates attacked holidaymakers from fast boats. "At some time in the next 10 years it may not be safe to sail a yacht between Gibraltar and Malta," said the admiral.

Parry, 52, an Oxford graduate who was mentioned in dispatches in the Falklands war, is not claiming all the threats will come to fruition. He is warning, however, of what is likely to happen if dangers are not addressed by politicians.

Parry — who used the slogan "old dog, new tricks" when he commanded the assault ship HMS Fearless — foresees wholesale moves by the armed forces to robots, drones, nanotechnology, lasers, microwave weapons, space-based systems and even "customised" nuclear and neutron bombs.

Lord Boyce, the former chief of the defence staff, welcomed Parry’s analysis. "Bringing it together in this way shows we have some very serious challenges ahead," he said. "The real problem is getting them taken seriously at the top of the government."

Ancient Rome has been a subject of serious public discussion this year. Boris Johnson, the Conservative MP and journalist, produced a book and television series drawing parallels between the European Union and the Roman empire. Terry Jones, the former Monty Python star, meanwhile, has spoken up for the barbarians’ technological and social achievements in a television series and has written:

"We actually owe far more to the so-called ‘barbarians’ than we do to the men in togas."

Parry, based in Shrivenham, Wiltshire, presented his vision at the Royal United Services Institute in central London. He identified the most dangerous flashpoints by overlaying maps showing the regions most threatened by factors such as agricultural decline, booming youth populations, water shortages, rising sea levels and radical Islam.

Parry predicts that as flood or starvation strikes, the most dangerous zones will be Africa, particularly the northern half; most of the Middle East and central Asia as far as northern China; a strip from Nepal to Indonesia; and perhaps eastern China.

He pinpoints 2012 to 2018 as the time when the current global power structure is likely to crumble. Rising nations such as China, India, Brazil and Iran will challenge America’s sole superpower status.

This will come as "irregular activity" such as terrorism, organised crime and "white companies" of mercenaries burgeon in lawless areas.

The effects will be magnified as borders become more porous and some areas sink beyond effective government control.

Parry expects the world population to grow to about 8.4 billion in 2035, compared with 6.4 billion today. By then some 68% of the population will be urban, with some giant metropolises becoming ungovernable. He warns that Mexico City could be an example.

In an effort to control population growth, some countries may be tempted to copy China’s "one child" policy. This, with the widespread preference for male children, could lead to a ratio of boys to girls of as much as 150 to 100 in some countries. This will produce dangerous surpluses of young men with few economic prospects and no female company.

"When you combine the lower prospects for communal life with macho youth and economic deprivation you tend to get trouble, typified by gangs and organised criminal activity," said Parry. "When one thinks of 20,000 so-called jihadists currently fly-papered in Iraq, one shudders to think where they might go next."

The competition for resources, Parry argues, may lead to a return to "industrial warfare" as countries with large and growing male populations mobilise armies, even including cavalry, while acquiring high-technology weaponry from the West.

The subsequent mass population movements, Parry argues, could lead to the "Rome scenario". The western Roman empire collapsed in the 4th and 5th centuries as groups such as Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Suevi, Huns and Vandals surged over its borders. The process culminated in the sack of Rome in 455 by Geiseric the Lame, king of the Alans and Vandals, in an invasion from north Africa.

Parry estimated at the conference there were already more than 70 diasporas in Britain.

In the future, he believes, large groups that become established in Britain and Europe after mass migration may develop "communities of interest" with unstable or anti-western regions.

Any technological advantage developed to deal with the threats was unlikely to last. "I don’t think we can win in cyberspace — it’s like the weather — but we need to have a raincoat and an umbrella to deal with the effects," said Parry.

Some of the consequences would be beyond human imagination to tackle. The examples he gave, tongue-in-cheek, include: "No wind on land and sea; third of population dies instantly; perpetual darkness; sores; Euphrates dries up ‘to clear way for kings from the east’; earth’s core opens."

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Rear Admiral Chris Parry is the armed forces’ chief “blue skies” thinker.

Parry, 52, was educated at the independent Portsmouth grammar school and at Jesus College, Oxford. During the Falklands war in 1982, he was mentioned in dispatches while serving with the Fleet Air Arm on the destroyer HMS Antrim.

Parry is one of Britain’s leading specialists on amphibious warfare. He once commanded the assault ship HMS Fearless, was in charge of amphibious warfare training at Portsmouth naval base and headed a joint British-Dutch taskforce before moving to his post at the Ministry of Defence.

The admiral heads the development, concepts and doctrine centre, set up in 1998 and based at Shrivenham, Wiltshire. It has more than 50 staff and is being expanded to include extra analysts.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

Absolutely true. And the same is happening to the usa.


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"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden

IndieTX  posted on  2006-06-11   22:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#0)

Like we say in Texas, BRING EM ON. Lemme wag my weenie at your women, make your men have sex with each other at gunpoint, humiliate you in front of your families, leave you in starvation with an hour of electricity a day, denigrate your religion and manhood, kill your fathers, mothers, and even your toddlers.

Oh, shit, PLEEZ STOP BRINGIN IT ON!!!!

Mekons4  posted on  2006-06-11   23:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Diana, Dakmar, Jethro Tull, Elliott Jackalope, BTP Holdings (#0)

"reverse colonisation" ping

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-06-11   23:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#3)

"reverse colonisation" ping

Why should we be surprised? What we see happening has happened before; to the Romans for one, and more than a millenium later, the Potuguese, who were one of the first colonial powers to allow slaves and other natives from the colonies to return to the home country. In more modern times we see the same thing with the French and the English, just to name two.

I know it's a cliche of immense proportions but, racial purity is America's security. Race mixing and multi-cultural melange has been the downfall of all major races and civilazations. It's a hard truth, but it is a truth none the less.

"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-06-12   1:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#0)

ONE of Britain’s most senior military strategists has warned that western civilisation faces a threat on a par with the barbarian invasions that destroyed the Roman empire.

Sorry, but the Roman empire was a dead duck by the time of the invasions from the north. It had long been poisoned by a dilution of the Roman blood and the defeat of the legions in Teutoberg forest by Hermann in 9 A.D.

Hermann/Arminius

A drighten of the Cherusci, Hermann served under General Varus during the Roman campaign to conquer Germany. Known as Arminius to the Romans, he secretly plotted against them with his tribesmen and led the Roman armies into a deadly trap in the Teutoberg Forest in the year 9 C.E. His armies could not withstand the Roman legion formation, but in the thick, dense Teutoberg Forest, the Romans were forced to abandon their military formations and march single file, in which guise they were easy prey for the furious Cheruscans. So many of the Roman soldiers were killed or captured that Varus, in shame, committed suicide by falling on his sword. Rome withdrew its forces back across the Rhine, and did not attempt any further invasions of the Teutonic territories.


Statue of Hermann at the Battleground of Teutoberg Vald

"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-06-12   1:37:00 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

the Potuguese, who were one of the first colonial powers to allow slaves and other natives from the colonies to return to the home country

The Portugese absorbed their slaves through breeding. As a result of that genetic influx, Portugal is now the poorest country in Europe. It had at one time been a first-class power with high art, literature, etc. Such is what the influx of inferior genetics, combined with absorbing them, will do to a country.

Freeper motto: "I read, but do not understand; I write, but make no sense."

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-06-12   6:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: YertleTurtle (#6)

The Portugese absorbed their slaves through breeding. As a result of that genetic influx, Portugal is now the poorest country in Europe. It had at one time been a first-class power with high art, literature, etc. Such is what the influx of inferior genetics, combined with absorbing them, will do to a country.

Yep.

"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-06-12   8:08:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

It's maintaining a civilized culture with good Christian values I'm concerned about. Historically there has and will always be a small percentage of race-mixing. For example, Dolly Parton and James Garner both claim to be part Native American. This does not make them less patriotic, or less American, or less Red Neck for that matter. The same could be said of millions of Americans. And I'm not saying Native Americans are less patriotic, they are more patriotic than most. I'm just trying to explain why I downplay race and raise the importance of cultural values.

The Celts once drank the blood of the dead. We don't do that anymore, but those who are part Celt still like to wear plaid and gather once a year. And although being chased out of Scotland wasn't right, they survived and eventually blended-in wherever they emigrated.

The open borders and mass migration of people from all over the world is creating Balkanization of America. And many arriving are here just to "make a packet of $$" as one Brit told me once, and then go back home one day. Our ancestors tried to figured-out how to blend into the melting pot, although there is a popular "mixed salad" theory too. Even that implies being in the same salad though.

And racial-mixing is not just here in America. At the time of ancient Rome, the Germanic tribes were described by a Roman historian of the time, as all being tall, blonde with light blue eyes. He also noted their high morals, each man having one wife, their strong family ties and some other worthwhile characteristics. He was contrasting their solid culture with the decadence of what Rome had become, reminding them they too had once been more like the Germanic tribes whom Rome considered barbaric. Well it's been awhile since all of Germany looked like that (or was described that way), but they are nonetheless a distinct culture that has survived despite all migrations, race-mixing, wars and occupations, so far. The recent rapid influx of Muslims must have all the long dead German Crusaders rolling in their graves. The Turkish GastArbeiter program was "a boo boo" according to one previous German Chancellor, Helmut Schmidt I think.

And if the Middle-East wasn't in turmoil, maybe Holland and France would not be overrun by Muslims right now. It's a problem, but I think the focus should be on culture, not race.

Or look at Spain's racially-mixed past, but they are culturally sound. Today the Spaniards have a joke about the chinese immigrants; they never die. Apparently there is a set # of visas for them. So, when one dies, they send for another rather than lose the visa. And this is not asia's first foray into europe. The Mongol hordes made it pretty far west under Genghis Khan.

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare. – James Madison

robin  posted on  2006-06-12   10:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#8)

I think the focus should be on culture, not race.

They both go together. Imagine what European culture would have been like if the race had not been preserved by the exploits of Prince Eugene. The Turks would have certainly overrun Austria if Vienna had fallen and from there, who knows. Some things ARE worth fighting for.

"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-06-12   16:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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