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Title: Judge Shot at Reno Courthouse
Source: Drudge Report
URL Source: http://www.kkoh.com/default.asp?area=mainnewsfullstory
Published: Jun 12, 2006
Author: KOH News Center
Post Date: 2006-06-12 17:53:49 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 1190
Comments: 99

--POLICE ARE CONTINUING TO SEARCH FOR A POSSIBLE SNIPER AFTER A JUDGE WAS APPARENTLY SHOT IN THE COURTHOUSE IN DOWNTOWN RENO. SPEAKING UNDER LOCKDOWN CONDITIONS, JUDGE JERRY POLAHA IDENTIFIED THE VICTIM AS FAMILY COURT JUDGE CHUCK WELLER. POLAHA SAID WELLER HAD BEEN SHOT IN THE CHEST WHILE ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE COURTHOUSE. THE SHOT IS BELIEVED TO HAVE COME FROM OUTSIDE THE BUILDING. POLAHA MENTIONED THAT IT'S NOT KNOWN IF THE SHOT WAS MEANT FOR WELLER, OR IF IT MIGHT SIMPLY BE A RANDOM GUNSHOT.


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#33. To: rack42 (#15)

I'm sure glad there's a handful at least that don't go for wanton needless killing of human beings.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: HOUNDDAWG (#14)

The American people can still take our country back without firing a shot, and I don't want to see this unless there is no other choice.

I don't want to lose my soul in the process of opposing their evil.

I vote for what you said.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-06-12   22:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: rowdee (#27)

Is that something like killing ragheads or towelheads?

No. The above aren't involved in my life nor the destruction of this country via misguided judicial interpretation. IMO, judges should be treated as they treat us; guilty until proven innocent.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   22:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: All, rack42, jethro tull (#32)

The COnstitution is exactly what gives people the right to throw off tyranny with any means necessary and what TheStateInc hopes you'll forget/.


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden

IndieTX  posted on  2006-06-12   22:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: rowdee (#31)

Shooting at judges is exactly the kind of third world behavior I'm resisting.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-06-12   22:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#35)

wanton killing of ragheads whine whine....

No. The above aren't involved in my life nor the destruction of this country via misguided judicial interpretation. IMO, judges should be treated as they treat us; guilty until proven innocent.

Whew. Some of the responses here are showing EXACTLY why the sheople have allowed themselves to be chained/. The American Revolution would never happen with today's jellyfish generation. Oh well, we lasted for 250 years...not a bad run.


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden

IndieTX  posted on  2006-06-12   22:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: rowdee (#33)

'm sure glad there's a handful at least that don't go for wanton needless killing of human beings.

They sure aren't the women who engage in or support infanticide.


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden

IndieTX  posted on  2006-06-12   22:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: IndieTX (#38)

Fear not IndieTX. It IS too late. We'll remain a genteel people right until the end. I'm convinced there is no insult we won't tolerate.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   22:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jethro Tull (#35)

ROTF........like they run around shootin your ass, er chest up.

And you know know family court judges are not involved with the destruction of this country.....

They aren't working on guilty or innocent; they are attempting to arbitrate between mothers and fathers, husbands and wives, who can't get over their anger, generally, and 'get evenness', to equally divide or make arrangements for the rearing of their kids without the kids getting the short shrift.

Killing is killing, JT....whether it is a gangster, street thug, military, cops, or just a strung out pissed off citizen. It leads to more and more evil, not better.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:41:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: IndieTX (#26)

thank you, Indie. the only time there is a potential for justice or fairness in a courtroom today is if one is involved in a case against a private entity in a matter in which the government has little or no interest in its outcome.

christine  posted on  2006-06-12   22:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: christine (#23)

...until you yourself have been a victim, yes VICTIM, of the injustice...

...i guess you won't understand the anger.

... have you read John Ross's Unintended Consequences?

I can't say that I understand the anger. But anger itself doesn't justify an act.

My parents divorced when I was 13. My mom married a guy shortly after I returned form my "tour." She shortly divorced him. She then remarried my dad without telling any of us (me and my brothers).

Can you say shock? Anger?

I know, not quite the same thing, but there were other things in the background; rather complicated.

Still, if you can present for me a "just murder," I'm listening.

I've not read "Unintended Consequences," but I've seen them ;)

United States: Gonad-Free Zone

rack42  posted on  2006-06-12   22:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Dakmar (#37)

I would hope you are resisting, Dak.....

I don't get this killing frenzy..........sonofabitch!

I doan like the noise of a fucking NASCAR race, so I can just go in there and blow everyone to hell? I odoan like what a judge says about how the wifey and I are to split the pair of dogs we have, so I'll just off him and show him what I think! I doan like a congresscoward, so I should just go snuff him out--like that will get him to vote better!

Oh.......I know........once the world is conquered, we can just off all the green eyed, red haired guys.........do the wimmen later. Then we could target all those over 65...... Next, after a bit of time, we could decide we didn't like those over 60 and do them in. Oh wait........make that after we get rid of all the 'handicapped'==we all know what a pain in the ass they are--taking up space in a line, and getting all the good parking spots that we are entitled to.

Oh boy........this is starting to get to be some fun. Won't be long and we can see it in the eyes of all the people.........eyes that tell us there is no soul or conscience in them. Anything goes..........wheeeeeeeee.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: rowdee (#33)

"The tree of liberty must be watered periodically with the blood of tyrants and patriots alike. It is its natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson

christine  posted on  2006-06-12   22:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: IndieTX (#38)

Please give me some citations where the Founding Fathers felt we should just arbitrarily run out and start killing people because we don't like the way they do a job or something. Thank you in advance.

Sheeple

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: IndieTX (#39)

THAT is something I do not support. I'm reached the point that I don't even want for the true, actual life of the mother to be an excuse.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: rack42 (#43)

I've not read "Unintended Consequences

i highly recommend it..then we'll talk. ;)

christine  posted on  2006-06-12   22:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: christine (#45)

And your definition of tyrant? And patriot for that matter.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: rowdee (#41)

"(Judge) "Weller uses whatever tactics to force you to submit to his imperial demands and tyrannical orders"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   22:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: rack42, Jethro Tull, christine (#29)

"street justice," doesn't seem to me consistent with supporting the US Constitution.

Who in the existing government is supporting the constitution??? The Supreme court?

And if they are not, are not we actually under the rule of "insurgents", and not bound by law, as they have by their actions repudiated the law that protects the citizen from the power of the state?

I do not think the murder of officials is correct, but the system is increasingly manipulated as to make the political parties the kings of the system, and the individual citizens effectually powerless.

I somewhat know the system, I am a precient (sp, latin) captain in colorado springs, and was a delegate to the Republican convention here. Was walking the area Saturday with the candidate, house to bloody house.

Might not surprise too many, that the "rules" give an enormous amount of control the the party chiefs.

The judicial system is an effective lock out of taxpayer participation. The unelected Bar association calls the shots on the judges, and their club are the laywers allowed to have standing in the court.

Donno how much more RIGGED it can get than that. Bacically, it allows a select group of laywers to extract enormous wealth from the community the proport to "represent", yet there is in reality no representation and nearly no accountability. Them's the facts. From my own two eyes.

tom007  posted on  2006-06-12   22:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine, Jethro Tull, IndieTX (#45)

Lots of comments regarding this judge popping up in legal blogs around the net...NONE of them speak very highly of the judge...'tyrant' and 'out of control' are words I see associated with those comments.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-06-12   22:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#50)

where does this come from.......the blog of sosmeone who is upset with a ruling he made in a family court case?

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: All (#51)

From my own two eyes.

Guess should have said from "my one eye".

tom007  posted on  2006-06-12   22:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: who knows what evil (#52)

are any of the articles you're seeing from Horowitz site?

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-06-12   22:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: who knows what evil (#52)

Yes. I saw some comments that he's a son of oa bitch the way men get the short shrift...........and in the same comment area of the thread I was reading were comments from women bitching they were getting the short shrift.

GO figure.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: rack42 (#15)

There is something in the air, and it stinks...of death.

I'm disheartened to see it on this forum.

No, but it's OK when the government does it in the form of Waco, Ruby Ridge, Rainbow Farm, Iraq, etc.

Until the government employees die for their actions, right or wrong, the country's dead.

That's exactly why the Founding Fathers put the Second Amendment in the Constitution.

The judge got what he had coming.

Even a dog is smart enough to make the determination
between being stumbled over or being kicked.

Esso  posted on  2006-06-12   22:58:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: rowdee (#53)

Someone? Apparently more than one, no? Read the links. He's a human trojan.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   22:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: who knows what evil (#52)

Lots of comments regarding this judge popping up in legal blogs around the net...NONE of them speak very highly of the judge...'tyrant' and 'out of control' are words I see associated with those comments.

I noticed. In lieu of rope and a tree, this works.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   23:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: who knows what evil (#52)

..."Weller, a Reno lawyer, was elected to the bench in 2004. He hosted a legal advice program on a Reno radio station from 1989 to 2002 and wrote a legal advice column in the Sunday Reno Gazette-Journal from 2000 to 2004. He once led opposition to a county bond issue to build a new courthouse."...

Found this little blurb about the guy at another site.

If the people don't like the guy, all they have to do is unelect him. Much more civil than trying to snuff someone out cause you don't like the color of their hair or whatever.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   23:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: tom007 (#51)

I hear you.

I understand your frustration because I'm frustrated also.

So we have a choice.

You and I and everyone knows that choice.

Want to discuss the pros and cons of each choice on another thread?

United States: Gonad-Free Zone

rack42  posted on  2006-06-12   23:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

JT..........the bloggers are all over the place.........some say he hates men, others that he hates women........WTF? Who's right? The one that loses.........or the one who wins? And which is which?

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   23:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

I agree with you Jethro. I think the guy probably had it coming.

You know when we consider the law of the land and the constitution and such - we should also consider the whole idea of 'common law'. Under common law everyone must agree before it is a law. This is the type of law that we historically respect and works out for the benefit of the people.

The constitution is nice, but it is just a piece of paper and nobody pays any attention to what it says. especially supreme court, president, congress.

I think that common law is a similar concept to 'street justice'.

I say there's a happy sniper tonight who is toasting himself. he did such a good job planning it - unlikely he'll be caught.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-06-12   23:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: rack42 (#61)

So we have a choice.

You and I and everyone knows that choice.

We do?

I don't, canyou tell me what this choice is?

Thanks in advance.

tom007  posted on  2006-06-12   23:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: rowdee (#62)

They both might be right, Dee. He seems a full blown loon. And watch how quick they react to these harmless blogs. They'll claim the internet caused this rather than his rulings.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   23:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Red Jones (#63)

The constitution is nice, but it is just a piece of paper and nobody pays any attention to what it says. especially supreme court, president, congress.

You've got this right. In some court rooms the word constitution can't be spoken. These thugs have been at the fulcrum of this nations destruction for decades. And BTW, I've never known one to be turned out by the voting public. Once appointed it's usually for life.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   23:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Dakmar (#55)

are any of the articles you're seeing from Horowitz site?

No.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-06-12   23:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jethro Tull (#65)

I'm looking forward to reading the news on whether he lives or not. so is the guy who pulled the trigger.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-06-12   23:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: IndieTX (#36)

The COnstitution is exactly what gives people the right to throw off tyranny with any means necessary and what TheStateInc hopes you'll forget.

Actually Indie, that right is inherent. Rights do not come from constitutions; constitutions might or might not respect rights.

'Tis true though the 2nd amendment is a nod in this direction.

We can debate what degree of provocation justifies open revolt; in one instance, for some freedom-loving men, it was a small thing, the last in a long train of abuses, with a pattern of growing tyranny.


Now Doc, I admit that sounds mighty purty after a toke; but Rufus is just gonna take yer blunt, too.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-06-12   23:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: noone222 (#0)

Family Court Judge ... was there a Reward ?

Virtue is its own reward.

Handcuffs are golden.


Now Doc, I admit that sounds mighty purty after a toke; but Rufus is just gonna take yer blunt, too.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-06-12   23:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Jethro Tull (#65)

C'mon, JT........you can do better than saying 'he's a loon! In what respect is he a loon? Have you been reading any decisions he's made regarding property settlements, child custody issues, temporary orders?

Do you live in Reno?

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   23:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Jethro Tull, Red Jones (#66)

What sort of constitutional issues would a family court judge be ruling on?

As for judges not being turned out, did he whup ass? Or have you ascertained that the incumbent opted not to run again?

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   23:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: rowdee (#53)

dee, are you aware that in child custody cases that it's not about what's fair and best for the children. the parent who makes the most money and is most able to pay child support is the one who loses custody. why? because the state makes a certain percentage of every child support dollar collected. further CPS is a huge government racket in which judges play their parts at destroying families and even using these children, in many cases, for their own sexual gratification. you can't vote these sons of bitches out.

where is the justice for Randy Weaver and his family? where is the justice for the Waco Davidians? where is the justice for Gordon Kahl and countless others?

can you read Unintended Consequences too? i really think it will change your perspective or at least help you to understand where i'm coming from.

christine  posted on  2006-06-12   23:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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