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Title: Judge Shot at Reno Courthouse
Source: Drudge Report
URL Source: http://www.kkoh.com/default.asp?area=mainnewsfullstory
Published: Jun 12, 2006
Author: KOH News Center
Post Date: 2006-06-12 17:53:49 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 1357
Comments: 99

--POLICE ARE CONTINUING TO SEARCH FOR A POSSIBLE SNIPER AFTER A JUDGE WAS APPARENTLY SHOT IN THE COURTHOUSE IN DOWNTOWN RENO. SPEAKING UNDER LOCKDOWN CONDITIONS, JUDGE JERRY POLAHA IDENTIFIED THE VICTIM AS FAMILY COURT JUDGE CHUCK WELLER. POLAHA SAID WELLER HAD BEEN SHOT IN THE CHEST WHILE ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF THE COURTHOUSE. THE SHOT IS BELIEVED TO HAVE COME FROM OUTSIDE THE BUILDING. POLAHA MENTIONED THAT IT'S NOT KNOWN IF THE SHOT WAS MEANT FOR WELLER, OR IF IT MIGHT SIMPLY BE A RANDOM GUNSHOT.


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#45. To: rowdee (#33)

"The tree of liberty must be watered periodically with the blood of tyrants and patriots alike. It is its natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson

christine  posted on  2006-06-12   22:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: IndieTX (#38)

Please give me some citations where the Founding Fathers felt we should just arbitrarily run out and start killing people because we don't like the way they do a job or something. Thank you in advance.

Sheeple

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: IndieTX (#39)

THAT is something I do not support. I'm reached the point that I don't even want for the true, actual life of the mother to be an excuse.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: rack42 (#43)

I've not read "Unintended Consequences

i highly recommend it..then we'll talk. ;)

christine  posted on  2006-06-12   22:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: christine (#45)

And your definition of tyrant? And patriot for that matter.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: rowdee (#41)

"(Judge) "Weller uses whatever tactics to force you to submit to his imperial demands and tyrannical orders"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   22:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: rack42, Jethro Tull, christine (#29)

"street justice," doesn't seem to me consistent with supporting the US Constitution.

Who in the existing government is supporting the constitution??? The Supreme court?

And if they are not, are not we actually under the rule of "insurgents", and not bound by law, as they have by their actions repudiated the law that protects the citizen from the power of the state?

I do not think the murder of officials is correct, but the system is increasingly manipulated as to make the political parties the kings of the system, and the individual citizens effectually powerless.

I somewhat know the system, I am a precient (sp, latin) captain in colorado springs, and was a delegate to the Republican convention here. Was walking the area Saturday with the candidate, house to bloody house.

Might not surprise too many, that the "rules" give an enormous amount of control the the party chiefs.

The judicial system is an effective lock out of taxpayer participation. The unelected Bar association calls the shots on the judges, and their club are the laywers allowed to have standing in the court.

Donno how much more RIGGED it can get than that. Bacically, it allows a select group of laywers to extract enormous wealth from the community the proport to "represent", yet there is in reality no representation and nearly no accountability. Them's the facts. From my own two eyes.

tom007  posted on  2006-06-12   22:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine, Jethro Tull, IndieTX (#45)

Lots of comments regarding this judge popping up in legal blogs around the net...NONE of them speak very highly of the judge...'tyrant' and 'out of control' are words I see associated with those comments.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-06-12   22:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#50)

where does this come from.......the blog of sosmeone who is upset with a ruling he made in a family court case?

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: All (#51)

From my own two eyes.

Guess should have said from "my one eye".

tom007  posted on  2006-06-12   22:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: who knows what evil (#52)

are any of the articles you're seeing from Horowitz site?

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-06-12   22:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: who knows what evil (#52)

Yes. I saw some comments that he's a son of oa bitch the way men get the short shrift...........and in the same comment area of the thread I was reading were comments from women bitching they were getting the short shrift.

GO figure.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   22:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: rack42 (#15)

There is something in the air, and it stinks...of death.

I'm disheartened to see it on this forum.

No, but it's OK when the government does it in the form of Waco, Ruby Ridge, Rainbow Farm, Iraq, etc.

Until the government employees die for their actions, right or wrong, the country's dead.

That's exactly why the Founding Fathers put the Second Amendment in the Constitution.

The judge got what he had coming.

Even a dog is smart enough to make the determination
between being stumbled over or being kicked.

Esso  posted on  2006-06-12   22:58:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: rowdee (#53)

Someone? Apparently more than one, no? Read the links. He's a human trojan.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   22:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: who knows what evil (#52)

Lots of comments regarding this judge popping up in legal blogs around the net...NONE of them speak very highly of the judge...'tyrant' and 'out of control' are words I see associated with those comments.

I noticed. In lieu of rope and a tree, this works.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   23:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: who knows what evil (#52)

..."Weller, a Reno lawyer, was elected to the bench in 2004. He hosted a legal advice program on a Reno radio station from 1989 to 2002 and wrote a legal advice column in the Sunday Reno Gazette-Journal from 2000 to 2004. He once led opposition to a county bond issue to build a new courthouse."...

Found this little blurb about the guy at another site.

If the people don't like the guy, all they have to do is unelect him. Much more civil than trying to snuff someone out cause you don't like the color of their hair or whatever.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   23:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: tom007 (#51)

I hear you.

I understand your frustration because I'm frustrated also.

So we have a choice.

You and I and everyone knows that choice.

Want to discuss the pros and cons of each choice on another thread?

United States: Gonad-Free Zone

rack42  posted on  2006-06-12   23:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

JT..........the bloggers are all over the place.........some say he hates men, others that he hates women........WTF? Who's right? The one that loses.........or the one who wins? And which is which?

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   23:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

I agree with you Jethro. I think the guy probably had it coming.

You know when we consider the law of the land and the constitution and such - we should also consider the whole idea of 'common law'. Under common law everyone must agree before it is a law. This is the type of law that we historically respect and works out for the benefit of the people.

The constitution is nice, but it is just a piece of paper and nobody pays any attention to what it says. especially supreme court, president, congress.

I think that common law is a similar concept to 'street justice'.

I say there's a happy sniper tonight who is toasting himself. he did such a good job planning it - unlikely he'll be caught.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-06-12   23:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: rack42 (#61)

So we have a choice.

You and I and everyone knows that choice.

We do?

I don't, canyou tell me what this choice is?

Thanks in advance.

tom007  posted on  2006-06-12   23:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: rowdee (#62)

They both might be right, Dee. He seems a full blown loon. And watch how quick they react to these harmless blogs. They'll claim the internet caused this rather than his rulings.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   23:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Red Jones (#63)

The constitution is nice, but it is just a piece of paper and nobody pays any attention to what it says. especially supreme court, president, congress.

You've got this right. In some court rooms the word constitution can't be spoken. These thugs have been at the fulcrum of this nations destruction for decades. And BTW, I've never known one to be turned out by the voting public. Once appointed it's usually for life.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-12   23:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Dakmar (#55)

are any of the articles you're seeing from Horowitz site?

No.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-06-12   23:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jethro Tull (#65)

I'm looking forward to reading the news on whether he lives or not. so is the guy who pulled the trigger.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-06-12   23:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: IndieTX (#36)

The COnstitution is exactly what gives people the right to throw off tyranny with any means necessary and what TheStateInc hopes you'll forget.

Actually Indie, that right is inherent. Rights do not come from constitutions; constitutions might or might not respect rights.

'Tis true though the 2nd amendment is a nod in this direction.

We can debate what degree of provocation justifies open revolt; in one instance, for some freedom-loving men, it was a small thing, the last in a long train of abuses, with a pattern of growing tyranny.


Now Doc, I admit that sounds mighty purty after a toke; but Rufus is just gonna take yer blunt, too.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-06-12   23:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: noone222 (#0)

Family Court Judge ... was there a Reward ?

Virtue is its own reward.

Handcuffs are golden.


Now Doc, I admit that sounds mighty purty after a toke; but Rufus is just gonna take yer blunt, too.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-06-12   23:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Jethro Tull (#65)

C'mon, JT........you can do better than saying 'he's a loon! In what respect is he a loon? Have you been reading any decisions he's made regarding property settlements, child custody issues, temporary orders?

Do you live in Reno?

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   23:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Jethro Tull, Red Jones (#66)

What sort of constitutional issues would a family court judge be ruling on?

As for judges not being turned out, did he whup ass? Or have you ascertained that the incumbent opted not to run again?

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-12   23:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: rowdee (#53)

dee, are you aware that in child custody cases that it's not about what's fair and best for the children. the parent who makes the most money and is most able to pay child support is the one who loses custody. why? because the state makes a certain percentage of every child support dollar collected. further CPS is a huge government racket in which judges play their parts at destroying families and even using these children, in many cases, for their own sexual gratification. you can't vote these sons of bitches out.

where is the justice for Randy Weaver and his family? where is the justice for the Waco Davidians? where is the justice for Gordon Kahl and countless others?

can you read Unintended Consequences too? i really think it will change your perspective or at least help you to understand where i'm coming from.

christine  posted on  2006-06-12   23:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Tauzero (#69)

We can debate what degree of provocation justifies open revolt; in one instance, for some freedom-loving men, it was a small thing, the last in a long train of abuses, with a pattern of growing tyranny.

exactly.

christine  posted on  2006-06-12   23:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Dakmar (#37)

Shooting at judges is exactly the kind of third world behavior I'm resisting.

An arbitrary government is exactly the kind of third world institution the sniper (if that's what it was) was resisting.

If judges wish the respect they deserve under a regime of liberty and the rule of law, then they need to support such a regime, rather than undermine it.

The mock scandal cry of "Anarchy!" in defense of a system that has slipped its chains and is in fact itself lawless is either hypocrisy or blindness. IMO.


Now Doc, I admit that sounds mighty purty after a toke; but Rufus is just gonna take yer blunt, too.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-06-12   23:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Jethro Tull (#50)

Excellent link from fathers unite...looks like my hunch may be correct.


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden

IndieTX  posted on  2006-06-12   23:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Tauzero (#75)

An arbitrary government is exactly the kind of third world institution the sniper (if that's what it was) was resisting.

If judges wish the respect they deserve under a regime of liberty and the rule of law, then they need to support such a regime, rather than undermine it.

The mock scandal cry of "Anarchy!" in defense of a system that has slipped its chains and is in fact itself lawless is either hypocrisy or blindness. IMO.

Bingo.


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
--Osama bin Laden

IndieTX  posted on  2006-06-12   23:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: christine (#73)

the parent who makes the most money and is most able to pay child is the one who loses custody. why? because the state makes a certain percentage of every child support dollar collected. further CPS is a huge government racket in which judges play their parts at destroying families and even using these children, in many cases, for their own sexual gratification. you can't vote these sons of bitches out.

Law firms who persue these cases are entitled to a "reasonable" portion of the child care payments.

And the law firms get to decide what is " reasonable". (That is wrtitten in the law which was written by, LAYWERS.)

So the downsized Dad, is now in effect an indetured servent to a law firm, forever, due to the compounding effects of interest. And the 20% cut taken out of the payments by the law firm.

It is deep corruption and is enough to make one act antisocial, as the system has been abusesively anti social to an individual.

tom007  posted on  2006-06-12   23:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: christine (#73)

Chrissie.......I will not condone taking the 'law' like this into our own hands!

Yes, where is the justice for Kahl, Weavers, et al? It sure as hell wasn't tied up with this judge. The two are not connected. Those are federal incidences.....and this guy is a county judge.

Not all child support is paid through the courts, so the 'rake-off' or 'skimming' doesn't necessarily wash. Generally, support payments are ordered to be paid THRU the court after a paying parent, for whatever reason, doesn't pay direct. The one parent due support could apply to a collection agency to collect for her. Of course, they would get paid for the service.

I love the broad brush being used to paint all these people. The terrorists among us, I guess. I just can't wrap it around me and use it to start killing the towelheads or jewboys or niggahs or wetbacks or congresscowards or bureaucrats or neighbors or city councilman or county commissionor or whatever happens to be the target of what ails this country.

I'm not ready to allow a husband to kick the little lady out of house without a dime or her clothes simply because the ol boy outweighs her or is stronger. I'm not ready to settle a pissing match with a neighbor with a bullet between the eyes. I'm not ready to have a bunch of wild-eyed, drug addled braindead anarchists join with a bunch of 'patriots' headed to DC to 'take care of bidness' and rule in my name! No Thanks........not anytime soon.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-13   0:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: tom007 (#78)

Please provide some documentation on law firms getting a reasonable, or otherwise, portion of child support payments.

Dad, no doubt, has been ordered by the court to pay reasonable attorney fees for mother, or his own fees.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-13   0:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: rowdee (#80)

Please provide some documentation on law firms getting a reasonable, or otherwise, portion of child support payments.

You can check it out easily if you wish. And the cut the Law firms are, usually, outrageous. Perpetual Debt is the end game of the system.

tom007  posted on  2006-06-13   0:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: IndieTX, Jethro Tull (#76)

Puleeze.........it appears these are all disgruntled loosers......how many of them know the law?

Do you honestly believe that a person, man or woman, who has been ordered to pay child support and some bills and to make spousal payments for a year or whatever while wifey poo gets some education to get a job is gonna go on a website for BAD JUDGES and talk about what a swell deal he got?

As for a judge using 'tactics'.......when you have a guy demanding that something be checked by a certain agency/group/person, and it has already been done, and then he keeps interrupting the judge and raising his voice in the demand and the judge informs he that if he wants this duplicitious work, he'll have to pay for it, the guy doesn't have a right to complain later about how the judge made him pay for it.

That is just one of the types of stupid things that go on in these courts and people later bitch about it.

You'd never get an honest assessment out of this type of person........and I will even proffer that it would be doubly bad if the man was a woman! No oone has a lock on being stupid or irrational or unable to make a fair judgement of what has occurred.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-13   0:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: tom007 (#81)

You're the one who stated such as fact.

Have a good evening.

rowdee  posted on  2006-06-13   0:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: rowdee (#79)

I love the broad brush being used to paint all these people. The terrorists among us, I guess. I just can't wrap it around me and use it to start killing the towelheads or jewboys or niggahs or wetbacks or congresscowards or bureaucrats or neighbors or city councilman or county commissionor or whatever happens to be the target of what ails this country.

These are your allegations. I have not seen one mention of, other than yours.

"towelheads or jewboys or niggahs or wetbacks or congresscowards or bureaucrats or neighbors or city councilman or county commissionor "(rowdee coments).

Rowdee wrote" I'm not ready to allow a husband to kick the little lady out of house without a dime or her clothes simply because the ol boy outweighs her or is stronger. I'm not ready to settle a pissing match with a neighbor with a bullet between the eyes. I'm not ready to have a bunch of wild-eyed, drug addled braindead anarchists join with a bunch of 'patriots' headed to DC to 'take care of bidness' and rule in my name! No Thanks........not anytime soon."

Projecting just a little, Rowdee?????

tom007  posted on  2006-06-13   0:17:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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