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Title: AMAZING! UPDATE FROM ISRAEL (OCT 20). HAMAS IS DONE!
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Published: Oct 20, 2024
Author: Israel MyChannel
Post Date: 2024-10-20 23:03:17 by The_Rock
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#1. To: The_Rock (#0)

You have to be one of the dumbest people on the planet.

Pigpen  posted on  2024-10-21   1:21:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pigpen (#1) (Edited)

You make no sense. Or you just love the Koran and its evil false doctrines.

Why do you think Israel wouldn't defend themselves against Iran's proxies?

You think they are just going to sit there and take it and end up like the Jews in Hitlers Germany?

You probably cheered when Iran took our hostages during Jimmy Carter.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-21   8:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: The_Rock (#0)

You are always calling Israel...

Gods chosen people

Can't just anyone "convert" to Judaism...and become a "chosen person"?

watchman  posted on  2024-10-21   11:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: The_Rock (#0)

Reminds me of the kind of people that are always going on and on about how they're gonna get Trump. Oooh look at that, so and so is finished. Be nice if Israel would hurry up and be done with bombing and killing everyone around them ...

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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.

titorite  posted on  2024-10-21   16:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: watchman (#3)

Can't just anyone "convert" to Judaism...and become a "chosen person"?

I don't think so. But i'm not positive.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-21   18:08:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: titorite (#4)

Be nice if Israel would hurry up and be done with bombing and killing everyone around them ...

They shouldn't kill everyone around them. They should strive for peaceful relations with people around them that don't want to wipe them out. The people who want to wipe them out should understand the concept of self defnese.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-21   18:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: The_Rock (#5)

Can't just anyone "convert" to Judaism...and become a "chosen person"?

I don't think so. But i'm not positive.

So how do you know if they are "chosen people" as opposed to those who Jesus describes as "those who say they are Jews, but are not"?

watchman  posted on  2024-10-21   22:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: watchman (#7)

Because they are descendants.

Just like Hitler knew.

God promised to restore Israel.

You can't tell me anywhere on earth that are the "real" jews.

All you can do is post a picture of a stop light and say see red that means they are not Gods chosen people.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   8:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: The_Rock (#8)

Because they are descendants.

Prove it.

watchman  posted on  2024-10-22   10:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: The_Rock (#8)

God promised to restore Israel.

God will restore Israel...in the millennial age...which starts about three years from now.

But first, He has to rid the Earth of Edom.

You can't tell me anywhere on earth that are the "real" jews.

I have shown you on several occasions...

Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥. (Revelation 7)

God cannot reveal them at this time because you and your comrades would kill them if you knew who/where they are.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. (Rev.12)

watchman  posted on  2024-10-22   15:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: watchman (#10)

God will restore Israel...in the millennial age...which starts about three years from now.

I think that is nonsense by a fake watchman.

But I don't know everything obviously

You should start a thread and post what your basis for that claim is.

You have said that before but you posted nonsense to "back it up".

Go ahead make my day.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: watchman (#10)

But first, He has to rid the Earth of Edom.

That sounds like more made up nonsense from the guy who swears Hamas did nothing on October 7. You are not a credible source.

But if I am wrong start a thread and prove it. Or try to do that here.

But no more this is red so that proves it. That is nonsense.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: watchman (#10)

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. (Rev.12)

That doesn't seem to make your point.

Tell me how you get there if you are able.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: watchman (#10)

God cannot reveal them at this time because you and your comrades would kill them if you knew who/where they are.

I don't kill anyone. You do like murdering rapist muslims who mock Jesus living in the land God gave to the Jews though

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:12:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: watchman (#10)

ve shown you on several occasions...

Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥. (Revelation 7)

Why don't you keep reading and not quote without full context>?

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Hmm here is a clue. Clothed whith white robes.

Who is clothes with white robes?

Hmm And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

Hmm in his Temple. Who is in his temple. Gentiles?

So that multitude that in innumerable includes other Jews.

Go ahead and keep ignoring the Bible.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: watchman (#10)

The 144,000 The mention of the 144,000 occurs in two key passages in the Book of Revelation.

Revelation 7:1-8 describes the sealing of the 144,000: “After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree. Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, saying, ‘Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.’ And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed: of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed; of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed.”

This passage clearly identifies the 144,000 as being composed of twelve thousand individuals from each of the twelve tribes of Israel. They are sealed on their foreheads as servants of God, indicating divine protection and ownership.

Revelation 14:1-5 provides additional details about the 144,000: “Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps. They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth. These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were redeemed from among men, being firstfruits to God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no deceit, for they are without fault before the throne of God.”

Here, the 144,000 are depicted as standing with the Lamb (Jesus Christ) on Mount Zion. They have the Father’s name written on their foreheads, sing a unique song, and are described as pure and blameless. They are called “firstfruits to God and to the Lamb,” indicating a special role in the divine plan.

The Great Multitude Immediately following the description of the sealing of the 144,000, Revelation describes another group: the great multitude.

Revelation 7:9-17 states: “After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, ‘Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!’ All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, saying: ‘Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, thanksgiving and honor and power and might, be to our God forever and ever. Amen.’ Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, ‘Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?’ And I said to him, ‘Sir, you know.’ So he said to me, ‘These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. They shall neither hunger anymore nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any heat; for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.'”

This passage presents the great multitude as a countless assembly from every nation, tribe, people, and language. They stand before the throne of God and the Lamb, worshiping and proclaiming that salvation belongs to God and to the Lamb. The elder explains that they have come out of the great tribulation and have been purified by the blood of the Lamb, indicating their salvation through Jesus Christ.

The Relationship Between the 144,000 and the Great Multitude The two groups, the 144,000 and the great multitude, are distinct but interconnected within the broader narrative of Revelation. The 144,000 are described as the firstfruits, suggesting they have a unique role in the divine plan. Their sealing implies they are specially chosen and protected servants of God during the tribulation period.

The great multitude, on the other hand, represents a diverse group of saved individuals who have endured and emerged from the final “time of trouble” (Daniel 12:1-2). Their salvation is explicitly linked to their faith in Jesus Christ and their purification through His sacrifice.

The Role of the 144,000 in the Salvation of the Great Multitude While the Bible does not explicitly detail the exact nature of the ministry of the 144,000, it is reasonable to infer that their witness and testimony play a significant role in the salvation of the great multitude. The description of the 144,000 as firstfruits and their close association with the Lamb suggest they have a pivotal role in God’s redemptive plan during the tribulation.

The great multitude’s emergence from the final “time of trouble” (Daniel 12:1-2) indicates they have been influenced and brought to faith during this tumultuous period. It is conceivable that the ministry of the 144,000 after the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in the form of the “latter rain” includes evangelism and witness, leading many to faith in Jesus Christ.

Supporting Scriptural Evidence Several other New Testament passages support the idea that salvation is available to all who believe in Jesus Christ, not just a limited group like the 144,000.

John 3:16-17 emphasizes the universal offer of salvation: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.”

This passage affirms that salvation through Jesus Christ is available to anyone who believes, underscoring the inclusive nature of the gospel.

Acts 2:21 reiterates the accessibility of salvation: “And it shall come to pass that whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”

This verse, part of Peter’s sermon on the day of Pentecost, highlights the universal offer of salvation to all who call upon the Lord.

Romans 10:9-13 further confirms this inclusive message: “That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, ‘Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.’ For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For ‘whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.'”

Paul’s teaching reinforces that salvation is available to all, regardless of ethnicity or background, through faith in Jesus Christ.

The Mission and Witness of Believers The New Testament repeatedly calls believers to witness and evangelize, implying that the gospel is intended for a wide audience beyond a select few.

Matthew 28:19-20 contains the Great Commission: “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. Amen.”

Jesus’ command to make disciples of all nations underscores the universal scope of the gospel mission.

Acts 1:8 records Jesus’ instructions to His disciples: “But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

The mandate to witness “to the end of the earth” again highlights the inclusive nature of the gospel message.

Conclusion In conclusion, the New Testament, particularly the Book of Revelation, presents the 144,000 and the great multitude as distinct yet interconnected groups within the context of salvation and eschatology. The 144,000 are depicted as specially chosen servants of God, sealed and protected during the tribulation, likely playing a significant role in evangelizing and witnessing to others. The great multitude, composed of individuals from every nation, tribe, people, and language, emerges from the great tribulation, having been saved through their faith in Jesus Christ and purified by His sacrifice.

The broader teachings of the New Testament affirm that salvation is available to all who believe in Jesus Christ. The inclusive nature of the gospel is emphasized through numerous passages, underscoring that whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. The mission of believers to witness and evangelize further supports the idea that the gospel is intended for a wide audience.

Therefore, while the 144,000 have a unique role within God’s redemptive plan, they are not the only ones who will be saved. The great multitude represents a vast and diverse assembly of saved individuals, highlighting the universal scope of God’s offer of salvation through Jesus Christ.

https://bibleask.org/are-the-144000-that-only-ones-that-will-be-saved/

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: The_Rock (#14) (Edited)

I don't kill anyone.

Unlike you, the apostle Paul had the courage to confess his part in murder.

And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.

Paul didn't actually throw a stone, but he stood by consenting to the murder.

Take a look at Pinguinite's post. Look at the dead kids.

https://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=284598&Disp=0

Likewise, you consent to the murder of those kids. You "hold the coats" of those who do the killing.

watchman  posted on  2024-10-22   23:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: The_Rock (#15)

After this

These two words tripped you up.

You're out of your league here.

watchman  posted on  2024-10-22   23:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: The_Rock (#16)

Not going to read your copy and paste.

watchman  posted on  2024-10-22   23:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: watchman (#19)

Not going to read your copy and paste.

Because you can't respond to it.

No reason to reinvent the wheel when others have already made the case that sounds reasonable.

If you can't refute it I guess that means the "cut and paste" is accurate.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: watchman (#17)

Likewise, you consent to the murder of those kids. You "hold the coats" of those who do the killing.

You will be judged by your own standards.

So it seems to me you will be judged for consenting to the murder of jews on October 7 and other days.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: watchman (#17)

Take a look at Pinguinite's post. Look at the dead kids.

I could post pics of dead Jews too.

From this war the last one or the one before or from the Holocaust.

Both sides have dead kids unfortunately.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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