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Title: THIS is Israel
Source: Israel
URL Source: [None]
Published: Oct 22, 2024
Author: Pinguinite
Post Date: 2024-10-22 16:46:02 by Pinguinite
Keywords: None
Views: 826
Comments: 108

Very sensitive images, but very REAL images that need to see the light of day. This is why I hate Israel. "God's Chosen People" my ass. Change my mind.

Many of these images are censored even on X for their extreme content, but ... welcome to 4um where reality is permitted!

The Israeli Gal Gadot screen shot is fitting contrasting Wonder Woman's concern about innocent children in a movie set with the real life actress's advocacy of Israel's brutal onslaught.

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#1. To: Pinguinite (#0)

Sad pictures indeed. But they don't tell the whole story.

Israel is defending themselves. Hamas, Iran, Hezbolah would do the same and worse to Israel if they could.

So they sacrifice their children by firing from schools, hospitals etc.

A nation doesn't have to let their people be attacked and has a right to respond.

Muslims don't want Israel to exist.

I am not saying every picture there is because the muslims hid behind their children and bombed israel from schools, hospitals etc. But i'm sure many are.

Ever see pictures of the holocaust. That is what the Muslims want to do again.

So although it is sad that children are dying. It is Hamas and Irans fault for starting it and still holding hostages.

So it is not right to just blame the victors because they are better at it.

Modern war weapons make it a certainty that the losers will suffer like this.

I don't mean to sound like an ogre or an evil person because I am not.

I'm probably not the best at explaining it there are people smarter than I am who could make a better case than me.

I just thought I would give you the respect of trying to answer your question.

You are a good person and it is understandable that those images would disturb any reasonable good person.

So maybe I don't really have the answer.

Mankind can and does do cruel things to each other.

I'll add this. Just because they are Gods chosen people doesn't mean that they do right all the time. Maybe it means that God chose them to deliver his message to mankind and give us the Bible and Jesus.

I'll leave it at that. I don't really want to get into a contentious debate about it. Just trying to give you some respect.

Take care.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:51:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: The_Rock (#1)

It's hard to get past your early sentence "Israel is defending themselves". That's easy to say but suffering one crime against humanity does not justify another. And that's what Israel is committing. Crimes against humanity.

At least at one point, the IDF has used AI to decide which buildings to target. AI. So there's no active combat involving buildings that are targeted. They let an experimental computer system just pick one out and they drop a bomb on it. And the IDF routinely just plants explosives on buildings and destroys them, so those buildings are already secured from Hamas militants but the blow them up anyway.

Some 130 Journalists have been killed. Israel targets them as well because no war is complete without PR warfare.

You are right though that we won't agree. As I see it, you've got your head stuck up in a bible so far you cannot even look around at what's actually happening and make common sense judgement on what's actually happening. You cling to a religious theory even when it defies what's going on in the real world.

I do hate Israel. I want it shut down. Didn't think this way 1 year ago, but now I do. Israel has proven it's an uncivilized people. I do not believe there is any divine power behind it. I do, however, see that it is powered by human will. The power of the human mind to believe things that are not true is absolutely enormous, even to the point of bringing a new country into existence.

This will end eventually, and I predict Israel will annex northern Gaza, which I say was the plan all along. But then there will be a censuses of survivors and then we'll have a far better idea of how many Palestinians have been killed in Gaza and I'll be surprised if it's not in the hundreds of thousands. And that wouldn't include so many maimed for life.

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-10-23   10:00:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#2)

It's hard to get past your early sentence "Israel is defending themselves".

Oh they definitely are.

If the Hamas terrorists wouldn't have murdered 1200 Israelis and raped many of them. How many muslims would be dead? Like zero in all likelihood.

How many of those kids above would be alive if the terrorist state of Iran didn't fund Hamas and Hezbollah and give them money to attack Israel? Probably all of them. So it is 100 percent kook muslims fault.

Do you deny that the muslims fight from hospitals and schools? It is well documented.

Most people who are against Israel don't like them becasue they are jealous of the Jews. They don't like God or his Bible and it came from those dirty Jews so that is why they hate them. They want so bad to not be accountable to Gods word so they think that if they destroy the Jews then they can prove the Bible and the God of the Bible is a fraud. That will not happen. The Jews will win and their history will continue. The history of many nations and people trying to exterminate them will end in failure once again. Because like it or not they are Gods chosen people and he will defend them in the end.

Some think it is a coincidence that this is going down just like the Bible predicted. The whole world turning against Israel and Armageddon and all that stuff. It is no coincidence that much of the world buys satans lies about Israel, Christians and the Bible. Yes he is real and if people don't believe that it is because they are deluded and they decided on their own to reject Gods word.

I think the Jews decided that they aren't going to line up in line for showers only to be gassed by evil people.

The people who are against Israel have a position kind of like if someone robs a convenience store and the driver gets killed in gunfire after the robbery and they blame the store owner.

Any reasonable person knows that Israel warns the people to evacuate when they are going to bomb. Do the terrorist scumbags in Hamas or Hezbollah do that? No they don't

The list is endless of Muslims breaking cease fire agreements and so called treaties.

Israel has decided that they don't have to appease terrorist scum bags anymore. But the terrorist scum bags hide behind women and children because they are evil people who like to have dead kids for propaganda. That is why they are known to put their kids in suicide vests and tell them to die for Allah and they will get 12 virgins to screw when they die. Kook religion that has no place on earth if people want to live in harmony.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-24   19:55:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: The_Rock (#5)

Yes he is real and if people don't believe that it is because they are deluded and they decided on their own to reject Gods word.

You aren't fooling anyone.

You're the one rejecting God, mocking God, heading for the Lake of Fire.

You have no fear of God, or Eternity.

FAFO

watchman  posted on  2024-10-24   20:41:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: watchman (#8)

You aren't fooling anyone.

You lie for Hamas and say they didn't rape anyone and October 7 was make believe.

So that makes you non credible and a propagandist. Why do you deny what happened to start this war? Why did you lie?

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-24   20:50:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: The_Rock (#10)

You hold the cloaks of those who did this...

watchman  posted on  2024-10-24   20:53:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: watchman (#11)

You hold the cloaks of those who did this...

You are a propagandist for Hamas and terrorists. I'm sure you are probably on a watch list.

But honestly neither you or me know the story of that picture.

It could be a Hamas mis fire. It could be a kid someone's parents left in a war zone while firing on Israel with a child in the proximity. It could be a missed target from Israel targeting a legitimate target that was firing on them. It could be indiscriminate bombing by Israel. That is the truth. You don't speak the truth but just push an agenda that everything is Israels fault.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-24   20:59:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: The_Rock (#12)

Lavon Affair

The Lavon affair was a failed Israeli covert operation, codenamed Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the summer of 1954. As part of a false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian communists, "unspecified malcontents", or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.[2] The operation caused no casualties among the population, but resulted in the deaths of four operatives. The overseer of the operation allegedly informed the Egyptians, after which 11 suspected operatives were arrested. Two died by suicide after being captured, two were executed by the Egyptian authorities, two of them were acquitted at trial, and the remaining five received prison terms ranging from 7 years to life in prison.

The operation ultimately became known as the "Lavon affair" after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign as a consequence of the incident. Before Lavon's resignation, the incident had been euphemistically referred to in Israel as the "Unfortunate Affair" or "The Bad Business" (Hebrew: העסק הביש, HaEsek HaBish). Israel publicly denied any involvement in the incident until 2005, when the surviving agents were awarded certificates of appreciation by Israeli President Moshe Katsav.[3]

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-24   21:05:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: Dakmar (#13)

That is 70 years old. So even if true all those people are dead.

At least I took the time to respond. Sounds like it might be true from my 3 min I looked at it.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-24 21:12:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Dakmar (#13)

The Lavon affair was a failed Israeli covert operation,

It was simply more dirty work by the Israelis. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-10-25 08:03:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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