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Title: THIS is Israel
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Published: Oct 22, 2024
Author: Pinguinite
Post Date: 2024-10-22 16:46:02 by Pinguinite
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Views: 815
Comments: 108
Very sensitive images, but very REAL images that need to see the light of day. This is why I hate Israel. "God's Chosen People" my ass. Change my mind. Many of these images are censored even on X for their extreme content, but ... welcome to 4um where reality is permitted! The Israeli Gal Gadot screen shot is fitting contrasting Wonder Woman's concern about innocent children in a movie set with the real life actress's advocacy of Israel's brutal onslaught.
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#1. To: Pinguinite (#0)
Sad pictures indeed. But they don't tell the whole story. Israel is defending themselves. Hamas, Iran, Hezbolah would do the same and worse to Israel if they could. So they sacrifice their children by firing from schools, hospitals etc. A nation doesn't have to let their people be attacked and has a right to respond. Muslims don't want Israel to exist. I am not saying every picture there is because the muslims hid behind their children and bombed israel from schools, hospitals etc. But i'm sure many are. Ever see pictures of the holocaust. That is what the Muslims want to do again. So although it is sad that children are dying. It is Hamas and Irans fault for starting it and still holding hostages. So it is not right to just blame the victors because they are better at it. Modern war weapons make it a certainty that the losers will suffer like this. I don't mean to sound like an ogre or an evil person because I am not. I'm probably not the best at explaining it there are people smarter than I am who could make a better case than me. I just thought I would give you the respect of trying to answer your question. You are a good person and it is understandable that those images would disturb any reasonable good person. So maybe I don't really have the answer. Mankind can and does do cruel things to each other. I'll add this. Just because they are Gods chosen people doesn't mean that they do right all the time. Maybe it means that God chose them to deliver his message to mankind and give us the Bible and Jesus. I'll leave it at that. I don't really want to get into a contentious debate about it. Just trying to give you some respect. Take care.
It's hard to get past your early sentence "Israel is defending themselves". That's easy to say but suffering one crime against humanity does not justify another. And that's what Israel is committing. Crimes against humanity. At least at one point, the IDF has used AI to decide which buildings to target. AI. So there's no active combat involving buildings that are targeted. They let an experimental computer system just pick one out and they drop a bomb on it. And the IDF routinely just plants explosives on buildings and destroys them, so those buildings are already secured from Hamas militants but the blow them up anyway. Some 130 Journalists have been killed. Israel targets them as well because no war is complete without PR warfare. You are right though that we won't agree. As I see it, you've got your head stuck up in a bible so far you cannot even look around at what's actually happening and make common sense judgement on what's actually happening. You cling to a religious theory even when it defies what's going on in the real world. I do hate Israel. I want it shut down. Didn't think this way 1 year ago, but now I do. Israel has proven it's an uncivilized people. I do not believe there is any divine power behind it. I do, however, see that it is powered by human will. The power of the human mind to believe things that are not true is absolutely enormous, even to the point of bringing a new country into existence. This will end eventually, and I predict Israel will annex northern Gaza, which I say was the plan all along. But then there will be a censuses of survivors and then we'll have a far better idea of how many Palestinians have been killed in Gaza and I'll be surprised if it's not in the hundreds of thousands. And that wouldn't include so many maimed for life.
Oh they definitely are. If the Hamas terrorists wouldn't have murdered 1200 Israelis and raped many of them. How many muslims would be dead? Like zero in all likelihood. How many of those kids above would be alive if the terrorist state of Iran didn't fund Hamas and Hezbollah and give them money to attack Israel? Probably all of them. So it is 100 percent kook muslims fault. Do you deny that the muslims fight from hospitals and schools? It is well documented. Most people who are against Israel don't like them becasue they are jealous of the Jews. They don't like God or his Bible and it came from those dirty Jews so that is why they hate them. They want so bad to not be accountable to Gods word so they think that if they destroy the Jews then they can prove the Bible and the God of the Bible is a fraud. That will not happen. The Jews will win and their history will continue. The history of many nations and people trying to exterminate them will end in failure once again. Because like it or not they are Gods chosen people and he will defend them in the end. Some think it is a coincidence that this is going down just like the Bible predicted. The whole world turning against Israel and Armageddon and all that stuff. It is no coincidence that much of the world buys satans lies about Israel, Christians and the Bible. Yes he is real and if people don't believe that it is because they are deluded and they decided on their own to reject Gods word. I think the Jews decided that they aren't going to line up in line for showers only to be gassed by evil people. The people who are against Israel have a position kind of like if someone robs a convenience store and the driver gets killed in gunfire after the robbery and they blame the store owner. Any reasonable person knows that Israel warns the people to evacuate when they are going to bomb. Do the terrorist scumbags in Hamas or Hezbollah do that? No they don't The list is endless of Muslims breaking cease fire agreements and so called treaties. Israel has decided that they don't have to appease terrorist scum bags anymore. But the terrorist scum bags hide behind women and children because they are evil people who like to have dead kids for propaganda. That is why they are known to put their kids in suicide vests and tell them to die for Allah and they will get 12 virgins to screw when they die. Kook religion that has no place on earth if people want to live in harmony.
You aren't fooling anyone. You're the one rejecting God, mocking God, heading for the Lake of Fire. You have no fear of God, or Eternity. FAFO
You lie for Hamas and say they didn't rape anyone and October 7 was make believe. So that makes you non credible and a propagandist. Why do you deny what happened to start this war? Why did you lie?
You hold the cloaks of those who did this...
You are a propagandist for Hamas and terrorists. I'm sure you are probably on a watch list. But honestly neither you or me know the story of that picture. It could be a Hamas mis fire. It could be a kid someone's parents left in a war zone while firing on Israel with a child in the proximity. It could be a missed target from Israel targeting a legitimate target that was firing on them. It could be indiscriminate bombing by Israel. That is the truth. You don't speak the truth but just push an agenda that everything is Israels fault.
You're just boring...
watchman posted on 2024-10-24 20:56:46 ET When Jesus said, “Judge not lest you be judged,” He wasn’t talking about never judging anyone. He was saying that the standard you use to judge others will be the standard he uses to judge you. You called me a child killer because I support Israel. That is factually incorrect. You called me one because of images posted that are purported to be a tragic photo of a child killed by Israel. You are against Israel and you lied for Hamas and said October 7th didn't happen. Here is a photo of a baby killed by the people you lied for. So by your own standard you are a child killer. I'm urging you to repent and apologize for your own good. 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? I know we can all get carried away in a forum discussing issues we are passionate about. Just giving you a chance to be a better person.
Get with the times. Ben Shapiro tried to roll out this image on Twitter. He became the laughingstock of the whole world.
Wow... Did you read the comments under the vid you posted. Ain't nobody buying the "fact checker" nonsense...lol
Yeah wow. According to you Hamas would never harm anyone. They are a peace group. You really are dumb.
They're a construct of Israel. Need I post more, Hamas helper?
Of course, I will... Israel creates boogey men to justify their murder and land theft. Wanna do Hezbollah next?
#32. To: The_Rock (#31)
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World Socialist Web Site https://www.wsws.org › articles › 2023/12/02 › klox-d02 Dec 2, 2023 — Israeli officials, knowing full well how and where Hamas would strike, made a deliberate decision to stand down in order to facilitate the ... If you need more let me know...it's well documented. This stand down by Israel deserves it's own post... True or false: Israel used Hamas to barbeque 40 babies?
The motive as I've been told, which seems credible to me, is that Hamas was created to spare Israel from being compelled to accept a 2-state solution. A more moderate gov in Gaza might have put forward or accepted a 2-state plan and then Israel would be under international pressure to accept it. But Israel doesn't want a 2-state solution at all, under any circumstances, so by promoting a more extreme gov in Gaza (Hamas) that would never want a 2-state solution either, Israel could always point the finger at them and say "well, we tried".
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#2. To: The_Rock (#1)
#5. To: Pinguinite (#2)
It's hard to get past your early sentence "Israel is defending themselves".
#8. To: The_Rock (#5)
Yes he is real and if people don't believe that it is because they are deluded and they decided on their own to reject Gods word.
#10. To: watchman (#8)
You aren't fooling anyone.
#11. To: The_Rock (#10)
#12. To: watchman (#11)
You hold the cloaks of those who did this...
#17. To: The_Rock (#12)
You are a propagandist for Hamas
#18. To: watchman (#17)
Go back to your dead forum, child killer.
#20. To: The_Rock (#18)
#22. To: watchman (#20)
#27. To: The_Rock (#22)
Video-Israel falsely accused of sharing fake images of Hamas atrocities using AI
#29. To: watchman (#27)
Wow...
#30. To: The_Rock (#29)
Hamas would never harm anyone. They are a peace group.
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#31. To: The_Rock (#30)
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Need I post more, Hamas helper?
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#36. To: watchman (#31)
Israel creates boogey men to justify their murder and land theft.
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