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Title: THIS is Israel
Source: Israel
URL Source: [None]
Published: Oct 22, 2024
Author: Pinguinite
Post Date: 2024-10-22 16:46:02 by Pinguinite
Keywords: None
Views: 730
Comments: 108

Very sensitive images, but very REAL images that need to see the light of day. This is why I hate Israel. "God's Chosen People" my ass. Change my mind.

Many of these images are censored even on X for their extreme content, but ... welcome to 4um where reality is permitted!

The Israeli Gal Gadot screen shot is fitting contrasting Wonder Woman's concern about innocent children in a movie set with the real life actress's advocacy of Israel's brutal onslaught.

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#1. To: Pinguinite (#0)

Sad pictures indeed. But they don't tell the whole story.

Israel is defending themselves. Hamas, Iran, Hezbolah would do the same and worse to Israel if they could.

So they sacrifice their children by firing from schools, hospitals etc.

A nation doesn't have to let their people be attacked and has a right to respond.

Muslims don't want Israel to exist.

I am not saying every picture there is because the muslims hid behind their children and bombed israel from schools, hospitals etc. But i'm sure many are.

Ever see pictures of the holocaust. That is what the Muslims want to do again.

So although it is sad that children are dying. It is Hamas and Irans fault for starting it and still holding hostages.

So it is not right to just blame the victors because they are better at it.

Modern war weapons make it a certainty that the losers will suffer like this.

I don't mean to sound like an ogre or an evil person because I am not.

I'm probably not the best at explaining it there are people smarter than I am who could make a better case than me.

I just thought I would give you the respect of trying to answer your question.

You are a good person and it is understandable that those images would disturb any reasonable good person.

So maybe I don't really have the answer.

Mankind can and does do cruel things to each other.

I'll add this. Just because they are Gods chosen people doesn't mean that they do right all the time. Maybe it means that God chose them to deliver his message to mankind and give us the Bible and Jesus.

I'll leave it at that. I don't really want to get into a contentious debate about it. Just trying to give you some respect.

Take care.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-22   23:51:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: The_Rock (#1)

It's hard to get past your early sentence "Israel is defending themselves". That's easy to say but suffering one crime against humanity does not justify another. And that's what Israel is committing. Crimes against humanity.

At least at one point, the IDF has used AI to decide which buildings to target. AI. So there's no active combat involving buildings that are targeted. They let an experimental computer system just pick one out and they drop a bomb on it. And the IDF routinely just plants explosives on buildings and destroys them, so those buildings are already secured from Hamas militants but the blow them up anyway.

Some 130 Journalists have been killed. Israel targets them as well because no war is complete without PR warfare.

You are right though that we won't agree. As I see it, you've got your head stuck up in a bible so far you cannot even look around at what's actually happening and make common sense judgement on what's actually happening. You cling to a religious theory even when it defies what's going on in the real world.

I do hate Israel. I want it shut down. Didn't think this way 1 year ago, but now I do. Israel has proven it's an uncivilized people. I do not believe there is any divine power behind it. I do, however, see that it is powered by human will. The power of the human mind to believe things that are not true is absolutely enormous, even to the point of bringing a new country into existence.

This will end eventually, and I predict Israel will annex northern Gaza, which I say was the plan all along. But then there will be a censuses of survivors and then we'll have a far better idea of how many Palestinians have been killed in Gaza and I'll be surprised if it's not in the hundreds of thousands. And that wouldn't include so many maimed for life.

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-10-23   10:00:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Pinguinite, All (#2)

To understand how Israel came into existence, you must know the true history of it.

In 1917, Lord Arthur Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary, wrote the Balfour Declaration. This document promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine, which at the time was an Ottoman area with a minority Jewish population.

This document was presented to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

Hitler wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar, a lush tropical island off the SE coast of Africa/ But they didn't want to hear that. The Jews wanted to go to Palestine.

The Havaara Agreement with a portion of their wealth that had been frozen in Germany. The rest of this wealth was used to purchase Reich farm equipment and other hard goods to break the Jewish boycott of German made goods when Judea Declares War on Germany.

All of this anti-Jewish activity in Germany came to a head with the murder of the Deputy Ambassador to France in Paris, Ernst vom Rath on 9 November 1938 by Herschel Grynszpan, a 17-year-old German-born Polish Jew living in Paris. ;)

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