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Title: THIS is Israel
Source: Israel
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Published: Oct 22, 2024
Author: Pinguinite
Post Date: 2024-10-22 16:46:02 by Pinguinite
Keywords: None
Views: 880
Comments: 108

Very sensitive images, but very REAL images that need to see the light of day. This is why I hate Israel. "God's Chosen People" my ass. Change my mind.

Many of these images are censored even on X for their extreme content, but ... welcome to 4um where reality is permitted!

The Israeli Gal Gadot screen shot is fitting contrasting Wonder Woman's concern about innocent children in a movie set with the real life actress's advocacy of Israel's brutal onslaught.

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#49. To: Pinguinite (#35)

I hate Israel because of what it has done and what it has promoted, including religious based supremacism reaching the point where torturing sodomy and genocide is actively condoned and promoted. This is not in dispute.

Some religions are not worthy of being protected. For example the Muslim satanist religion. Not a real religion.

Sodomy is not encouraged by the Israeli government. I'm sure Israel has bad people who do such things. They should be punished if the claim is actually true.

There is no genocide, if there was genocide they wouldn't give warnings before bombings and there would be 100 times more dead people. That is just anti western propaganda.

So it is in dispute because it is not true.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-25   21:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Pinguinite (#35)

Israel's ambitions will not end with Gaza and the West Bank.

They will take back all the long God promised. They should not take one inch more.

It is going to happen. I know that because the Bible is true.

People can cry about it but it will happen.

Watch and see.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-25   21:33:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: FormerLurker (#43)

That you're too stupid to see that speaks volumes.

You like it when the muslims attack Israel. Just like you probably cheered when Iran took American hostages.

You talk like a foreigner. If you are you should go back to your muslim hellhole.

If you are really an American you are a weird one. Very strange.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-25   21:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Pinguinite, All (#2)

To understand how Israel came into existence, you must know the true history of it.

In 1917, Lord Arthur Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary, wrote the Balfour Declaration. This document promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine, which at the time was an Ottoman area with a minority Jewish population.

This document was presented to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

Hitler wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar, a lush tropical island off the SE coast of Africa/ But they didn't want to hear that. The Jews wanted to go to Palestine.

The Havaara Agreement with a portion of their wealth that had been frozen in Germany. The rest of this wealth was used to purchase Reich farm equipment and other hard goods to break the Jewish boycott of German made goods when Judea Declares War on Germany.

All of this anti-Jewish activity in Germany came to a head with the murder of the Deputy Ambassador to France in Paris, Ernst vom Rath on 9 November 1938 by Herschel Grynszpan, a 17-year-old German-born Polish Jew living in Paris. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-10-26   14:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: FormerLurker (#44)

I used to respect them, then I found out about their ties to the JFK assassination, the attacks against the USS Liberty, their involvement in the bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon, their involvement in 9/11, and countless other evil deeds.

And now this..

When revealed, the truth hurts.

After the October missile attacks by Hezbollah from Gaza, 500,000 Jews fled Israel.

But do not expect to see Rabbi Dov Zackheim among them. He was Comptroller at the Pentagon before the attacks of 9-11-2001 and he fled to Israel after embezzling $2.9 Trillion from Pentagon coffers.

That part of the Pentagon that was hit on 9-11 was where the auditors were poring over the books to find the fraud. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-10-26   15:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Pinguinite (#0)

THIS is Israel

Man's inhumanity to man continues to flabbergast me. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-10-26   15:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#54)

Man's inhumanity to man continues to flabbergast me.

I'm voting for the man and felon they're calling Hitler come Monday or on 05Nov2024.

I'm flummoxed by TDS.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-10-26   15:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: The_Rock (#51)

This has to stop. This really has to stop!!! pic.twitter.com/YZHBOsZokw— Rania (@umyaznemo) October 27, 2024

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-10-27   9:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Pinguinite (#56)

That is propaganda from MSNBC feeling sorry for a mass murdering terrorist who reaped what he has sown.

They lied about colonization. The land is Israel and it is less than 1 percent of the Middle East.

The Palestinians are really Jordanians and Egyptians.

The Palestinians need to quit occupying Israel, go home to Egypt or Jordan and release the hostages.

If they keep firing on Israel from schools and hospitals they will die and they put their families at risk.

Israel has a right to exist on all the land the GOD gave them. Yes God.

So this will go on and on.

Why does Hamas still have hostages?

Your position is someone takes your people hostage and you can't do anything about it and you are responsible if the hostage takers fire missiles from you schools, hospitals. It is not a reasonable position.

Yes people die in war. Israel has rightly decided they aren't going to take it anymore.

That is my view and it is the right view.

I wish Iran (who took American hostages) would just realize that they are evil dictators who make women put bags on their heads or kill them. Would repend and quit funding this nonsense. But they wont because they worship the pedophile murderer Mohammad.

Iran and Israel were friends before the Muslim kooks took over.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   10:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: The_Rock (#47)

Why is that old woman squatting on Israeli soil?

Well, if the caption is true that her family has lived in the house "for generations" I suppose that old lady was there because she was born there. Yes, I agree it's kind of hard to get past that kind of audacity!

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-10-27   10:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: The_Rock (#47)

Settlers stealing clothes from Palestinians.

Since it's already established that stealing homes from Palestinians is justified as God's will, we don't need to bother questioning whether this video is real as we already know Israeli settlers are fully entitled to anything and everything Palestinians own. In fact, we should be surprised there aren't more videos like this!

Of course, endorsing this kind of behavior requires one to check their Christian beliefs at the door, but nothing is too costly to dispense with for God's glorious "Chosen People".

🚨🚨🚨#Disgusting
Zionist settlers steal Clothes from Palestinian 🇵🇸 Homes in Hebron‼️🤮 pic.twitter.com/HaHw8DOUFJ— SOFIEN TABOUBI (@TOUNESBELALB) October 27, 2024

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-10-27   10:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: The_Rock (#57)

They lied about colonization. The land is Israel and it is less than 1 percent of the Middle East.

If I took less than 1% of your bank account, would that be acceptable?

I made no comment justifying Hamas holding hostages. I am saying that suffering one crime against humanity does not justify another. You appear to disagree.

Though you do support this version of religious supremacism that justifies theft of lands and homes from people you know nothing about.

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-10-27   11:02:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: The_Rock (#57)

Israel has a right to exist on all the land the GOD gave them. Yes God.

Silly Stone. Everyone knows Edom has no claim to the land.

Baron de Edom Schield's name on a piece of paper means nothing to God.

So this will go on and on.

Nah, only until Moshiach arrives, then he will destroy Edom.

"Saving Israel for last"

watchman  posted on  2024-10-27   11:07:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: watchman (#61)

Silly Stone. Everyone knows Edom has no claim to the land.

You already lost that argument. You lost big. Edom is extinct.

freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/re...ArtNum=284712&Disp=31#C31

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   11:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Pinguinite (#59)

I don't doubt the video is real.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   11:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Pinguinite (#60)

I made no comment justifying Hamas holding hostages. I am saying that suffering one crime against humanity does not justify another. You appear to disagree.

Just like the get away driver is guilty too if his accomplice kills someone. Hamas is guilty for all deaths for Israel defending themselves against Hamas.

If Israel did nothing they would be weak and the Muslims would just keep doing the same thing. You know that right.

100 percent Hamas's fault. That is the way I see it.

Yes there is tragedy and sadness. Why did Hama with Iran's blessing start this. Oh that is right they are muslim kooks who are brainwashed to kill Jews. It is in their unholy book.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   11:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Pinguinite (#60)

Though you do support this version of religious supremacism that justifies theft of lands and homes from people you know nothing about.

Two different groups believe they own the land. I will go with the one that I believe is more justified.

The land was taken from their jewish ancestors. God gave it to them.

I know you don't see it that way.

That is ok.

Nothing we say or do will change anything. We are "spectators".

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   12:01:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Pinguinite (#60)

Though you do support this version of religious supremacism that justifies theft of lands and homes from people you know nothing about.

If that was your ancestorial homeland. And if everyone around you wanted to exterminate you. You would think like Israel does.

And every true muslim around them wants to exterminate them.

They are in a fight for their very survival.

If all the Muslims left Israel, Israel would have no reason to fight them.

But they would still fight Israel since they are Israel and the Muslims hate the Bible and they hate the Jews and they hate the Christians and they hate the Hindus and they hate the Budhists and they hate the athiests and they hate the Michael Newtonists. The susis hate the shias and the shias hate the sunis.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   12:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: The_Rock (#65)

The land was taken from their jewish ancestors. God gave it to them.

The people with the most blood of ancient Israel is them is most likely the Palestinians, their current Muslim faith not withstanding. Fact is that before about 120 years ago, most people spend their whole lives and did within some 20 miles of where they were born.

Palestinian people are actual Semites. The current Israelis are European. Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-10-27   12:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: The_Rock (#62)

Edom is extinct.

Wait, no, the Edom Schields look fresh as daisies...

There's even an Edom Schield blvd in Tel Aviv...

Edom is alive and well...and waiting for the messiah!

Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...

watchman  posted on  2024-10-27   14:38:16 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: watchman (#68)

There are only three countries in the world that do not have a Rothschild-controlled central bank, North Korea, Iran and Cuba. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-10-27   15:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: watchman (#68)

Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...

No asshole. Any idiot can paste a picture and claim they alive. The encyclopedia and sources I have posted to you says they were wiped out. Just like the Bible says.

Only an idiot who posts a shield and says stop lights are red and that proves Edom exists would think something like that. In other words you moron.

I already had this discussion with you. You are to senile and forgetful to remember it obviously. You lost the debate as you offered zero documentation for your assinie claims.

Here is the thread where you couldn't put up shit.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=284712&Disp=29#C29

You're an idiot and a liar and generally a POS!

If you have found some proof besides a random photo on the internet please share it. But as of yet you haven't offered shit except your shit for brains.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   15:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: BTP Holdings (#69)

There are only three countries in the world that do not have a Rothschild-controlled central bank, North Korea, Iran and Cuba. ;)

Prove the USA has a Rothschild controlled central bank.

I know we have the Federal Reserve, which I don't think we should have. I would prefer constitutional money.

But I think you are wrong.

If you are correct than so be it. But you should show it.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   15:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Pinguinite (#35)

This is true. But the Israelites of the Bible are not the modern day Jews. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-10-27   15:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: BTP Holdings (#72)

. But the Israelites of the Bible are not the modern day Jews.

They are their descendants. You just use that talking point to justify your hatred of Gods Chosen People.

Are you a Christian? Lots of times non Christians try to make that point because they don't want to live up to Gods word. Not always but often.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   15:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Pinguinite (#67)

Palestinian people are actual Semites. The current Israelis are European. Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.

It all goes back to the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Lord Arthur Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary, wrote this document. It was presented to the Zionist Association of Great Briain an Ireland. It promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine which at that time was an Ottoman area. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-10-27   15:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: The_Rock (#70)

Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...

The Bible says God will deal with Edom "In that day..." Obadiah v.8

"In that day" refers to the last days, the time of judgment.

How could they be extinct? Are you calling God a liar?

watchman  posted on  2024-10-27   16:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: The_Rock (#73)

Are you a Christian?

Isn't your fav song Highway To Hell by AC/DC?

It's like your anthem.

It's as if you've set your course for eternity.

watchman  posted on  2024-10-27   16:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: watchman (#75)

The Bible says God will deal with Edom "In that day..." Obadiah v.8

"In that day" refers to the last days, the time of judgment.

Why do you say it refers to the "last days"? Seriously I would like to know. "That day" seems to be referring to whatever time vs 7 is talking about. Can you explain?

7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him.

8 Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   18:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: watchman (#75)

Are you a Calvanist?

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   18:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Pinguinite (#67)

Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.

He is the longest-serving Prime Minister in Israel’s history. His father, Benzion Netanyahu (born Benzion Mileikowsky), a scholar, was a Polish Jewish emigrant, born in Warsaw, who moved with his family to Israel in 1920. His mother, Tzila (Segal), was born in Petah Tikva, Israel, of Lithuanian Jewish, Polish Jewish, and Belarusian Jewish descent.

And don't forget that Bibi said, "We control the Americans and they know it."

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-10-27   18:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: BTP Holdings (#79)

And don't forget that Bibi said, "We control the Americans and they know it."

That is horsepoo.

Provide a legitimate citation.

You can't.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-27   18:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Pinguinite (#56) (Edited)

And the true motive of Israel eliminating Gaza is the oil and gas fields under the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Gaza.

Again, it is the money grubbing Jew that comes to the fore.

BTW, the French did the right thing to not allow Israeli athletes into the country for the Olympics to protest the war in Gaza. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2024-10-27   18:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: The_Rock (#64)

Just like the get away driver is guilty too if his accomplice kills someone. Hamas is guilty for all deaths for Israel defending themselves against Hamas.

So you are guilty of all abortions conducted/enabled/paid for by the Biden Administration?

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-10-27   19:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: The_Rock (#77)

"In that day" is used some 253 times and is generally defined by the context.

Check out this link: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/phrases/In-that-Day

With Obadiah you would need to reconcile the usage with other prophecies, and the evidence you clearly see happening before your eyes.

I've explained all of this to you but you reject it.

watchman  posted on  2024-10-27   19:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: The_Rock (#78)

Are you a Calvanist?

Absolutely not.

Back in the 1920's a convention of rabbis disclosed Calvin (Cauvin) was sent in to divide the church.

He did in fact divide the church and managed to kill dozen of Christians.

watchman  posted on  2024-10-27   19:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: The_Rock (#46)

You're a kook.

Sure thing skippy.

Unlike you, I don't froth at the mouth and get sexually aroused at the thought of blowing innocent people up into piles of bloody mush.

And since Palestinians ARE descended from the original inhabitants of that land, and since you support their slaughter, you are a murderous anti- semite.

Civilians should never be considered military targets, no matter their religion or ethnicity.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2024-10-27   20:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: The_Rock (#65)

The land was taken from their jewish ancestors. God gave it to them.

Uh huh, so THEY said.

If I call myself a Jew, does that mean I can go to Israel, butcher a Palestinian family and take their home as mine?

That's pretty much what the vast majority of Israelis have done, since they're mostly of European descent and whose family migrated there in the early 20th century.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2024-10-27   20:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: The_Rock (#51)

You like it when the muslims attack Israel. Just like you probably cheered when Iran took American hostages

Sure thing kook.

Realistically I was serving in the USMC when Iran took our hostages and was assigned to a special group that was prepared to go teach them a lesson.

Carter never gave the order to go, but we were ready.

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you've never served a day in the US Armed Forces, you're just a armchair warrior with a seething hatred for people you don't know or even try to understand.

It's people like you who commit atrocities throughout history, using God as an excuse for your insanity.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2024-10-27   20:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: The_Rock (#80)

Imagine raiding someone's property holding a gun and still consider yourself "the innocent who is threatened and endangered"

Israeli settlers backed by the army destroy the house of a christian palestinian family and seize their land. pic.twitter.com/NAx4sCjWU7— Abier (@abierkhatib) October 28, 2024

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-10-28   8:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Pinguinite (#88)

They made up the Christian part most likely to get sympathy.

They might be a Hamas terrorist. No I don't know that and neither do you.

The_Rock  posted on  2024-10-28   19:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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