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Title: THIS is Israel
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Published: Oct 22, 2024
Author: Pinguinite
Post Date: 2024-10-22 16:46:02 by Pinguinite
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Very sensitive images, but very REAL images that need to see the light of day. This is why I hate Israel. "God's Chosen People" my ass. Change my mind. Many of these images are censored even on X for their extreme content, but ... welcome to 4um where reality is permitted! The Israeli Gal Gadot screen shot is fitting contrasting Wonder Woman's concern about innocent children in a movie set with the real life actress's advocacy of Israel's brutal onslaught.
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Sad pictures indeed. But they don't tell the whole story. Israel is defending themselves. Hamas, Iran, Hezbolah would do the same and worse to Israel if they could. So they sacrifice their children by firing from schools, hospitals etc. A nation doesn't have to let their people be attacked and has a right to respond. Muslims don't want Israel to exist. I am not saying every picture there is because the muslims hid behind their children and bombed israel from schools, hospitals etc. But i'm sure many are. Ever see pictures of the holocaust. That is what the Muslims want to do again. So although it is sad that children are dying. It is Hamas and Irans fault for starting it and still holding hostages. So it is not right to just blame the victors because they are better at it. Modern war weapons make it a certainty that the losers will suffer like this. I don't mean to sound like an ogre or an evil person because I am not. I'm probably not the best at explaining it there are people smarter than I am who could make a better case than me. I just thought I would give you the respect of trying to answer your question. You are a good person and it is understandable that those images would disturb any reasonable good person. So maybe I don't really have the answer. Mankind can and does do cruel things to each other. I'll add this. Just because they are Gods chosen people doesn't mean that they do right all the time. Maybe it means that God chose them to deliver his message to mankind and give us the Bible and Jesus. I'll leave it at that. I don't really want to get into a contentious debate about it. Just trying to give you some respect. Take care.
It's hard to get past your early sentence "Israel is defending themselves". That's easy to say but suffering one crime against humanity does not justify another. And that's what Israel is committing. Crimes against humanity. At least at one point, the IDF has used AI to decide which buildings to target. AI. So there's no active combat involving buildings that are targeted. They let an experimental computer system just pick one out and they drop a bomb on it. And the IDF routinely just plants explosives on buildings and destroys them, so those buildings are already secured from Hamas militants but the blow them up anyway. Some 130 Journalists have been killed. Israel targets them as well because no war is complete without PR warfare. You are right though that we won't agree. As I see it, you've got your head stuck up in a bible so far you cannot even look around at what's actually happening and make common sense judgement on what's actually happening. You cling to a religious theory even when it defies what's going on in the real world. I do hate Israel. I want it shut down. Didn't think this way 1 year ago, but now I do. Israel has proven it's an uncivilized people. I do not believe there is any divine power behind it. I do, however, see that it is powered by human will. The power of the human mind to believe things that are not true is absolutely enormous, even to the point of bringing a new country into existence. This will end eventually, and I predict Israel will annex northern Gaza, which I say was the plan all along. But then there will be a censuses of survivors and then we'll have a far better idea of how many Palestinians have been killed in Gaza and I'll be surprised if it's not in the hundreds of thousands. And that wouldn't include so many maimed for life.
Aye. I kinda wonder if many of them made some kinda secret deals in their heads with that golden cow that makes them all think acting that way is anything other than monstrous. the complete and absolute , lack of humanity is a red flag to the rest of humanity. ______________________________________ Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
What do they consider a journalist? A pro Palestinian terrorist propagandist that works for Hamas. Like several Al Jazera propagandists? You need to show the circumstances of these alleged killings. Israel doesn't target legitimate journalists to the best of my knowledge.
Oh they definitely are. If the Hamas terrorists wouldn't have murdered 1200 Israelis and raped many of them. How many muslims would be dead? Like zero in all likelihood. How many of those kids above would be alive if the terrorist state of Iran didn't fund Hamas and Hezbollah and give them money to attack Israel? Probably all of them. So it is 100 percent kook muslims fault. Do you deny that the muslims fight from hospitals and schools? It is well documented. Most people who are against Israel don't like them becasue they are jealous of the Jews. They don't like God or his Bible and it came from those dirty Jews so that is why they hate them. They want so bad to not be accountable to Gods word so they think that if they destroy the Jews then they can prove the Bible and the God of the Bible is a fraud. That will not happen. The Jews will win and their history will continue. The history of many nations and people trying to exterminate them will end in failure once again. Because like it or not they are Gods chosen people and he will defend them in the end. Some think it is a coincidence that this is going down just like the Bible predicted. The whole world turning against Israel and Armageddon and all that stuff. It is no coincidence that much of the world buys satans lies about Israel, Christians and the Bible. Yes he is real and if people don't believe that it is because they are deluded and they decided on their own to reject Gods word. I think the Jews decided that they aren't going to line up in line for showers only to be gassed by evil people. The people who are against Israel have a position kind of like if someone robs a convenience store and the driver gets killed in gunfire after the robbery and they blame the store owner. Any reasonable person knows that Israel warns the people to evacuate when they are going to bomb. Do the terrorist scumbags in Hamas or Hezbollah do that? No they don't The list is endless of Muslims breaking cease fire agreements and so called treaties. Israel has decided that they don't have to appease terrorist scum bags anymore. But the terrorist scum bags hide behind women and children because they are evil people who like to have dead kids for propaganda. That is why they are known to put their kids in suicide vests and tell them to die for Allah and they will get 12 virgins to screw when they die. Kook religion that has no place on earth if people want to live in harmony.
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𝟏𝟔 𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐬 𝐲𝐞 (𝐝𝐢𝐫𝐭𝐲 𝐉𝐞𝐰𝐬) 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐝𝐫𝐮𝐧𝐤 𝐮𝐩𝐨𝐧 𝐦𝐲 𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐲 𝐦𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧, 𝐬𝐨 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐝𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐤 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐮𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲, 𝐲𝐞𝐚, 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐝𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐤, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐬𝐰𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐨𝐰 𝐝𝐨𝐰𝐧, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞 𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐝 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧. 𝟏𝟕 𝐁𝐮𝐭 𝐮𝐩𝐨𝐧 𝐦𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐭 𝐙𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞 𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬; 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐉𝐚𝐜𝐨𝐛 (𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐞 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐥) 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬. 𝟏𝟖 𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐉𝐚𝐜𝐨𝐛 (𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐞 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥) 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞 𝐚 𝐟𝐢𝐫𝐞, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐉𝐨𝐬𝐞𝐩𝐡 (𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐞 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥)𝐚 𝐟𝐥𝐚𝐦𝐞, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐄𝐬𝐚𝐮 (𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐝𝐢𝐫𝐭𝐲 𝐉𝐞𝐰𝐬) 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐬𝐭𝐮𝐛𝐛𝐥𝐞, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦; 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝐫𝐞𝐦𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐄𝐬𝐚𝐮 (𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐝𝐢𝐫𝐭𝐲 𝐉𝐞𝐰𝐬); 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝 𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐡 𝐬𝐩𝐨𝐤𝐞𝐧 𝐢𝐭. (Obadiah v.16-18) The "dirty Jews" as you call them (your words), are the synagogue of Satan, heathen according to God...a cancer on the Earth...soon gone forever!
You aren't fooling anyone. You're the one rejecting God, mocking God, heading for the Lake of Fire. You have no fear of God, or Eternity. FAFO
The Destruction of Edom The Day of Reckoning and Hope Obadiah 1, although dense with divine judgment and the heavy consequences of pride, also illuminates the eternal hope and promise of restoration for those who remain faithful. It serves as a reminder of God's unfailing justice, His divine plan for His people, and the powerful transformation of suffering into redemption. Judgment Against Edom (Verses 1-9): The chapter begins with a divine vision received by Obadiah, spelling out God's impending judgment on the nation of Edom. Despite its sense of security derived from its lofty mountainous dwellings, Edom is to be brought low because of its arrogance and self-reliance. Reasons for Edom's Punishment (Verses 10-14): Edom's coming destruction is explained in the light of its mistreatment of Israel, its brother nation. When foreign invaders sacked Jerusalem, the Edomites not only stood by and did nothing, they took advantage of the situation, participating in the plunder and preventing the Israelites from escaping. The Day of the Lord (Verses 15-18): Here Obadiah extends the prophecy to encompass all nations, not just Edom, with the "Day of the Lord" -- a time of divine retribution where deeds are paid back in kind. For Edom, this would mean total destruction, signified by the metaphor of stubble consumed by fire. Restoration of Israel (Verses 19-21): In stark contrast to Edom's fate, Obadiah concludes with a promise of hope and restoration for the Israelites. They will reclaim their lost territories, and a savior will rise from Mount Zion to judge the mountain of Esau (Edom), signaling the Lord's enduring kingdom. Obadiah 1, the singular chapter in the Book of Obadiah, stands as a poignant testament to divine justice and the consequences of arrogance and betrayal. The shortest book in the Old Testament, Obadiah is a prophecy against the kingdom of Edom, a nation descended from Esau, the brother of Jacob (Israel). The chapter starkly portrays the looming downfall of Edom due to its pride and mistreatment of Israel, its brother nation. Still, within its grave warnings, it also holds a glimmer of hope for the restoration of Israel.
You lie for Hamas and say they didn't rape anyone and October 7 was make believe. So that makes you non credible and a propagandist. Why do you deny what happened to start this war? Why did you lie?
You hold the cloaks of those who did this...
You are a propagandist for Hamas and terrorists. I'm sure you are probably on a watch list. But honestly neither you or me know the story of that picture. It could be a Hamas mis fire. It could be a kid someone's parents left in a war zone while firing on Israel with a child in the proximity. It could be a missed target from Israel targeting a legitimate target that was firing on them. It could be indiscriminate bombing by Israel. That is the truth. You don't speak the truth but just push an agenda that everything is Israels fault.
Lavon Affair The Lavon affair was a failed Israeli covert operation, codenamed Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the summer of 1954. As part of a false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian communists, "unspecified malcontents", or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.[2] The operation caused no casualties among the population, but resulted in the deaths of four operatives. The overseer of the operation allegedly informed the Egyptians, after which 11 suspected operatives were arrested. Two died by suicide after being captured, two were executed by the Egyptian authorities, two of them were acquitted at trial, and the remaining five received prison terms ranging from 7 years to life in prison. The operation ultimately became known as the "Lavon affair" after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign as a consequence of the incident. Before Lavon's resignation, the incident had been euphemistically referred to in Israel as the "Unfortunate Affair" or "The Bad Business" (Hebrew: העסק הביש, HaEsek HaBish). Israel publicly denied any involvement in the incident until 2005, when the surviving agents were awarded certificates of appreciation by Israeli President Moshe Katsav.[3] “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
That is 70 years old. So even if true all those people are dead. At least I took the time to respond. Sounds like it might be true from my 3 min I looked at it.
And I never owned a slave, but guess which tribe set up the NAACP and ran it until 1955? “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
Appreciate you at least considering there may be some truth outside of politics. I rarely use Wikipedia as a reference on political or social topics because it is slanted so far left/statist. With an unhealthy dose of Chosenite narrative. “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
You're just boring...
watchman posted on 2024-10-24 20:56:46 ET When Jesus said, “Judge not lest you be judged,” He wasn’t talking about never judging anyone. He was saying that the standard you use to judge others will be the standard he uses to judge you. You called me a child killer because I support Israel. That is factually incorrect. You called me one because of images posted that are purported to be a tragic photo of a child killed by Israel. You are against Israel and you lied for Hamas and said October 7th didn't happen. Here is a photo of a baby killed by the people you lied for. So by your own standard you are a child killer. I'm urging you to repent and apologize for your own good. 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? I know we can all get carried away in a forum discussing issues we are passionate about. Just giving you a chance to be a better person.
You posted several pictures and you said this is Israel. And you hate Israel because of those photos. Did you fact check any of the photos you posted? and if so how many? and are any of the images you posted fake or AI generated? FYI futurism.com/the-byte/dead-children-images-ai Fake AF A striking number of viral photos on both sides of the Isreal-Hamas conflict have been revealed to be AI fakes — and according to experts, the problem is only going to get worse. In interviews with the Associated Press, researchers from multiple firms and organizations tasked with verifying the truthfulness of online claims said that there has been a grim influx of faked AI images featuring butchered children that are used to cast blame on each side of the bloody conflict between Israel and the terrorist group Hamas. Imran Ahmed, the CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, said that whether people share out-of-context images from the long list of previous conflicts in Israel/Palestine or newer digital dupes — or in some cases a combination of the two — the heartstring-tugging effect is the same. "People are being told right now: Look at this picture of a baby," Ahmed said. "The disinformation is designed to make you engage with it." While this is far from the first conflict in which AI-manipulated propaganda has been used — Russia's invasion of Ukraine has also brought about a similar spate of digital fakes — the fake photos of dead or injured children are not only a particularly gruesome instance of the technology's cruel power, but also a harbinger of worse things to come. "It’s going to get worse — a lot worse — before it gets better," Jean- Claude Goldenstein, the CEO of the digital verification firm CREOpoint that has created a database of viral Gaza deepfakes, told AP. "Pictures, video, and audio: with generative AI, it’s going to be an escalation you haven’t seen." Layers of Deception Make no mistake: horrific numbers of children have died in the bloody conflict. Muddying the waters with fake images distorts that reality in numerous ways — not the least by giving people who see real documentation of the horrors of war an excuse to dismiss it as an AI fabrication. And to make matters even more complicated, tools meant to detect whether a photo is real or AI-manipulated can sometimes get it wrong — an increasingly well-known issue that bad actors can also exploit to sow further discord in a conflict that has no shortage of it. With dedicated disinformation artists always a step ahead of efforts to debunk them, digital security expert David Doermann, who used to lead efforts at the Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) on the national security risks of AI disinformation, told the AP that there need to be efforts between governments and public and private sectors not just to beef up their tech, but to apply more stringent regulations and standards as well. "Every time we release a tool that detects this, our adversaries can use AI to cover up that trace evidence," Doermann, now a professor at the University of Buffalo, told AP. "Detection and trying to pull this stuff down is no longer the solution. We need to have a much bigger solution."
Get with the times. Ben Shapiro tried to roll out this image on Twitter. He became the laughingstock of the whole world.
He became the laughingstock of the whole world. You're a lying asshole who believes liars. Israel falsely accused of sharing fake images of Hamas atrocities using AI
So by your own standards that you set, you are a baby killer.
It was simply more dirty work by the Israelis. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Thanks for posting these images of the brutality of the Zionist regime. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
This makes absolutely no sense. As usual.
Wow... Did you read the comments under the vid you posted. Ain't nobody buying the "fact checker" nonsense...lol
It makes perfect sense baby killer. But you don't understand the Bible so you wouldn't understand. Here is a clue. I already explained it to you. Over your head.
Yeah wow. According to you Hamas would never harm anyone. They are a peace group. You really are dumb.
They're a construct of Israel. Need I post more, Hamas helper?
Of course, I will... Israel creates boogey men to justify their murder and land theft. Wanna do Hezbollah next?
World Socialist Web Site https://www.wsws.org › articles › 2023/12/02 › klox-d02 Dec 2, 2023 — Israeli officials, knowing full well how and where Hamas would strike, made a deliberate decision to stand down in order to facilitate the ... If you need more let me know...it's well documented. This stand down by Israel deserves it's own post... True or false: Israel used Hamas to barbeque 40 babies?
This guy says it all very well. Don't you dare ever say you didn't know!
Of those who died on Oct 7, some 1200 we are told, Israel killed several hundred themselves. The piles of destroyed cars were not destroyed with AK-47s, obviously, and neither were housed with destroyed walls. The IDF went in with guns ablazing, and those guns were tank guns and attack helicopters. The completely burned baby you posted a picture of may well have been killed by the IDF.
I hate Israel because of what it has done and what it has promoted, including religious based supremacism reaching the point where torturing sodomy and genocide is actively condoned and promoted. This is not in dispute. The person referred to who was sodomized was only detained, not convicted, of any crime or terror activity whatsoever. As though sodomy would be justified even if he was. Many of the photos above were from videos I myself made screen shots of. Yes, the possibility of fakery exists and have been suspicious of some, such as the little girl carrying her baby sister saying she was hit by a car. Not a fake photo as it's a video, but for me potentially staged. Propaganda happens on both sides of every war. But one cannot look at the photos of Gazan landscape being nothing but destroyed concrete buildings for as far as the eye can see, which there seems is no challenge as to being fake as even Israeli photos show, having received the equivalent of 3+ Hiroshima bombs on a region 13x more densely populated than Israel and and conclude that deaths are rare. It's easier to post a web write-up claiming pics are fake than it is to make fakes. I note your article gives zero examples of photos that they say are fake. There is an enormous amount of video content of what's going on in Gaza which is believable as cell phones are everywhere today making that possible. As for why Israel would kill journalists, the importance of public perception is something Israel has always been sensitive to, and they fight news wars as much as they fight military wars. So killing Journalists is (or at minimum, would be) an important means for them to control what the world sees. Israel did unilaterally shut down Al-jazeera news as part of this campaign, and simply labeling any journalist who dares give an opinion that Israel doesn't like can certainly earn a fake label of "Hamas Sympathizer" and executed. Ethnic cleansing and genocide is no longer even being hidden or denied now. I see such advocates on new commentary on places like NewsMax, and Israeli talking heads and those on the street are openly advocating genocide because "God gave us this land". #GOODNEWS FOR #ISRAEL ... MORE #LAND IS READY FOR YOU Israel's ambitions will not end with Gaza and the West Bank. They don't even try to hide this anymore. “I just think we need to kill them. Every last one of them”
The motive as I've been told, which seems credible to me, is that Hamas was created to spare Israel from being compelled to accept a 2-state solution. A more moderate gov in Gaza might have put forward or accepted a 2-state plan and then Israel would be under international pressure to accept it. But Israel doesn't want a 2-state solution at all, under any circumstances, so by promoting a more extreme gov in Gaza (Hamas) that would never want a 2-state solution either, Israel could always point the finger at them and say "well, we tried".
Below is a very credible and seemingly balanced take on Oct 7 which claims only 2 babies (under 1 year of age) were killed on Oct 7. One 10-month old and one newborn from that day. Any rape that may have taken place, according to the clip, if it happened at all, was isolated and not systematic or widespread. And the IDF did kill hundreds of their own people that day. Perhaps the image of the burnt baby is real, but it may have been done by the IDF in their overzealous response under some doctrine (Hannibal directive) that says it's better that Israelis die than be held captive for even a short period of time. Israeli forces killed Israeli citizens on October 7
This would have caused a massive civil war. Most of those who were said to have died were young folks at a rave. Take 4-6 ground crew per helicopter...well over 100 young soldiers involved in killing their friends and family members?
I suppose we're to believe that this is how God fulfills his promise of the promised land to his "Chosen People" (TM), contradicting everything Christianity teaches. Israel is a shithole of a country full of a shitty people. Or maybe it's a fake video? Elderly Palestinian lady is thrown out of her home that her family has owned for generations by illegal settlers…🇵🇸💔 pic.twitter.com/U8ASuKanqM— Pelham (@Resist_05) October 25, 2024
No, I don't think so. You have to factor in what people are ready to believe, and few Israels would believe the IDF would do this. People choose what they want to believe and stick with it. Look at how long a 24 hour lie about beheaded babies has persisted a full year later. And those that do understand it would believe the IDF had no choice in the matter. Finally, if they get past that, they have to blame the IDF rather than Hamas. Recall the 3 escaped hostages that came to IDF soldiers with white flags and were gunned down by them? The mother of at least one said it was not the IDF's fault. Of course the IDF mistook the hostages for Palestinian civilians which is why they were shot, but even family members find a way to reassign blame from those that pulled the trigger. No, when you are dealing with a very powerfully pre-programmed mindset as exists in Israel, the IDF can do no wrong whatsoever. There are exceptions as vast numbers of Israelis have protested against the genocide (perhaps my previous post about their being a "shitty people" is too broadbrushed but ... I'm not immune to such things myself, I suppose. But never underestimate the power of the human mind to believe things that are not true. As they say, it's much easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled.
I was buying in to the whole Hamas attack that day...until the "40 beheaded babies" girl reporter crashed the whole show. This girl... At that precise moment, the killings, rapes, and hostage stories went up in a puff of smoke. If the "40 babies" story was fake, then the whole thing was fake (as far as I was concerned). The "40 beheaded babies" hoax revealed a lot of people, including AKA Stone and Ben Shapiro. Both, as far as I know, are still trying to convince us that the story is true. Since then, the video by the girl reporter has been scrubbed from the internet. Imagine such an important piece of video evidence would disappear like that...
Sure they are. They were doing this for years just for sport. They made or allowed Oct. 7 to happen just so they could go hog wild and play the victim. That you're too stupid to see that speaks volumes. Or maybe you are like them and get off on it. Pretty much. I used to respect them, then I found out about their ties to the JFK assassination, the attacks against the USS Liberty, their involvement in the bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon, their involvement in 9/11, and countless other evil deeds. And now this.. That they totally control our government is obvious. LBJ traded silver for blood in that deal. I used to respect them, then I found out about their ties to the JFK assassination, You're a kook. Israel is wiping on your friends in Iran now. Death to Iran who you love because they took American hostages.
Israel is a shithole of a country full of a shitty people. Or maybe it's a fake video? You hate Jews. Ok lots of people do just like God said they would. Why is that old woman squatting on Israeli soil? Do you cry when Mexicans are deported out of America?
He just yells a lot because he can't make legitimate points.
Some religions are not worthy of being protected. For example the Muslim satanist religion. Not a real religion. Sodomy is not encouraged by the Israeli government. I'm sure Israel has bad people who do such things. They should be punished if the claim is actually true. There is no genocide, if there was genocide they wouldn't give warnings before bombings and there would be 100 times more dead people. That is just anti western propaganda. So it is in dispute because it is not true.
They will take back all the long God promised. They should not take one inch more. It is going to happen. I know that because the Bible is true. People can cry about it but it will happen. Watch and see.
You like it when the muslims attack Israel. Just like you probably cheered when Iran took American hostages. You talk like a foreigner. If you are you should go back to your muslim hellhole. If you are really an American you are a weird one. Very strange.
To understand how Israel came into existence, you must know the true history of it. In 1917, Lord Arthur Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary, wrote the Balfour Declaration. This document promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine, which at the time was an Ottoman area with a minority Jewish population. This document was presented to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. Hitler wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar, a lush tropical island off the SE coast of Africa/ But they didn't want to hear that. The Jews wanted to go to Palestine. The Havaara Agreement with a portion of their wealth that had been frozen in Germany. The rest of this wealth was used to purchase Reich farm equipment and other hard goods to break the Jewish boycott of German made goods when Judea Declares War on Germany. All of this anti-Jewish activity in Germany came to a head with the murder of the Deputy Ambassador to France in Paris, Ernst vom Rath on 9 November 1938 by Herschel Grynszpan, a 17-year-old German-born Polish Jew living in Paris. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
And now this.. When revealed, the truth hurts. After the October missile attacks by Hezbollah from Gaza, 500,000 Jews fled Israel. But do not expect to see Rabbi Dov Zackheim among them. He was Comptroller at the Pentagon before the attacks of 9-11-2001 and he fled to Israel after embezzling $2.9 Trillion from Pentagon coffers. That part of the Pentagon that was hit on 9-11 was where the auditors were poring over the books to find the fraud. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Man's inhumanity to man continues to flabbergast me. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
I'm voting for the man and felon they're calling Hitler come Monday or on 05Nov2024. I'm flummoxed by TDS. This has to stop. This really has to stop!!! pic.twitter.com/YZHBOsZokw— Rania (@umyaznemo) October 27, 2024
That is propaganda from MSNBC feeling sorry for a mass murdering terrorist who reaped what he has sown. They lied about colonization. The land is Israel and it is less than 1 percent of the Middle East. The Palestinians are really Jordanians and Egyptians. The Palestinians need to quit occupying Israel, go home to Egypt or Jordan and release the hostages. If they keep firing on Israel from schools and hospitals they will die and they put their families at risk. Israel has a right to exist on all the land the GOD gave them. Yes God. So this will go on and on. Why does Hamas still have hostages? Your position is someone takes your people hostage and you can't do anything about it and you are responsible if the hostage takers fire missiles from you schools, hospitals. It is not a reasonable position. Yes people die in war. Israel has rightly decided they aren't going to take it anymore. That is my view and it is the right view. I wish Iran (who took American hostages) would just realize that they are evil dictators who make women put bags on their heads or kill them. Would repend and quit funding this nonsense. But they wont because they worship the pedophile murderer Mohammad. Iran and Israel were friends before the Muslim kooks took over.
Well, if the caption is true that her family has lived in the house "for generations" I suppose that old lady was there because she was born there. Yes, I agree it's kind of hard to get past that kind of audacity!
Settlers stealing clothes from Palestinians. Since it's already established that stealing homes from Palestinians is justified as God's will, we don't need to bother questioning whether this video is real as we already know Israeli settlers are fully entitled to anything and everything Palestinians own. In fact, we should be surprised there aren't more videos like this! Of course, endorsing this kind of behavior requires one to check their Christian beliefs at the door, but nothing is too costly to dispense with for God's glorious "Chosen People". 🚨🚨🚨#Disgusting
If I took less than 1% of your bank account, would that be acceptable? I made no comment justifying Hamas holding hostages. I am saying that suffering one crime against humanity does not justify another. You appear to disagree. Though you do support this version of religious supremacism that justifies theft of lands and homes from people you know nothing about.
Silly Stone. Everyone knows Edom has no claim to the land. Baron de Edom Schield's name on a piece of paper means nothing to God. Nah, only until Moshiach arrives, then he will destroy Edom. "Saving Israel for last"
You already lost that argument. You lost big. Edom is extinct.
I don't doubt the video is real.
Just like the get away driver is guilty too if his accomplice kills someone. Hamas is guilty for all deaths for Israel defending themselves against Hamas. If Israel did nothing they would be weak and the Muslims would just keep doing the same thing. You know that right. 100 percent Hamas's fault. That is the way I see it. Yes there is tragedy and sadness. Why did Hama with Iran's blessing start this. Oh that is right they are muslim kooks who are brainwashed to kill Jews. It is in their unholy book.
Two different groups believe they own the land. I will go with the one that I believe is more justified. The land was taken from their jewish ancestors. God gave it to them. I know you don't see it that way. That is ok. Nothing we say or do will change anything. We are "spectators".
If that was your ancestorial homeland. And if everyone around you wanted to exterminate you. You would think like Israel does. And every true muslim around them wants to exterminate them. They are in a fight for their very survival. If all the Muslims left Israel, Israel would have no reason to fight them. But they would still fight Israel since they are Israel and the Muslims hate the Bible and they hate the Jews and they hate the Christians and they hate the Hindus and they hate the Budhists and they hate the athiests and they hate the Michael Newtonists. The susis hate the shias and the shias hate the sunis.
The people with the most blood of ancient Israel is them is most likely the Palestinians, their current Muslim faith not withstanding. Fact is that before about 120 years ago, most people spend their whole lives and did within some 20 miles of where they were born. Palestinian people are actual Semites. The current Israelis are European. Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.
Wait, no, the Edom Schields look fresh as daisies... There's even an Edom Schield blvd in Tel Aviv... Edom is alive and well...and waiting for the messiah! Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...
There are only three countries in the world that do not have a Rothschild-controlled central bank, North Korea, Iran and Cuba. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
No asshole. Any idiot can paste a picture and claim they alive. The encyclopedia and sources I have posted to you says they were wiped out. Just like the Bible says. Only an idiot who posts a shield and says stop lights are red and that proves Edom exists would think something like that. In other words you moron. I already had this discussion with you. You are to senile and forgetful to remember it obviously. You lost the debate as you offered zero documentation for your assinie claims. Here is the thread where you couldn't put up shit.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=284712&Disp=29#C29 You're an idiot and a liar and generally a POS! If you have found some proof besides a random photo on the internet please share it. But as of yet you haven't offered shit except your shit for brains.
Prove the USA has a Rothschild controlled central bank. I know we have the Federal Reserve, which I don't think we should have. I would prefer constitutional money. But I think you are wrong. If you are correct than so be it. But you should show it.
This is true. But the Israelites of the Bible are not the modern day Jews. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
They are their descendants. You just use that talking point to justify your hatred of Gods Chosen People. Are you a Christian? Lots of times non Christians try to make that point because they don't want to live up to Gods word. Not always but often.
It all goes back to the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Lord Arthur Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary, wrote this document. It was presented to the Zionist Association of Great Briain an Ireland. It promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine which at that time was an Ottoman area. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
The Bible says God will deal with Edom "In that day..." Obadiah v.8 "In that day" refers to the last days, the time of judgment. How could they be extinct? Are you calling God a liar?
Isn't your fav song Highway To Hell by AC/DC? It's like your anthem. It's as if you've set your course for eternity.
"In that day" refers to the last days, the time of judgment. Why do you say it refers to the "last days"? Seriously I would like to know. "That day" seems to be referring to whatever time vs 7 is talking about. Can you explain? 7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him. 8 Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
Are you a Calvanist?
He is the longest-serving Prime Minister in Israel’s history. His father, Benzion Netanyahu (born Benzion Mileikowsky), a scholar, was a Polish Jewish emigrant, born in Warsaw, who moved with his family to Israel in 1920. His mother, Tzila (Segal), was born in Petah Tikva, Israel, of Lithuanian Jewish, Polish Jewish, and Belarusian Jewish descent. And don't forget that Bibi said, "We control the Americans and they know it." "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
That is horsepoo. Provide a legitimate citation. You can't.
And the true motive of Israel eliminating Gaza is the oil and gas fields under the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Gaza. Again, it is the money grubbing Jew that comes to the fore. BTW, the French did the right thing to not allow Israeli athletes into the country for the Olympics to protest the war in Gaza. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
So you are guilty of all abortions conducted/enabled/paid for by the Biden Administration?
"In that day" is used some 253 times and is generally defined by the context. Check out this link: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/phrases/In-that-Day With Obadiah you would need to reconcile the usage with other prophecies, and the evidence you clearly see happening before your eyes. I've explained all of this to you but you reject it.
Absolutely not. Back in the 1920's a convention of rabbis disclosed Calvin (Cauvin) was sent in to divide the church. He did in fact divide the church and managed to kill dozen of Christians.
Sure thing skippy. Unlike you, I don't froth at the mouth and get sexually aroused at the thought of blowing innocent people up into piles of bloody mush. And since Palestinians ARE descended from the original inhabitants of that land, and since you support their slaughter, you are a murderous anti- semite. Civilians should never be considered military targets, no matter their religion or ethnicity. Uh huh, so THEY said. If I call myself a Jew, does that mean I can go to Israel, butcher a Palestinian family and take their home as mine? That's pretty much what the vast majority of Israelis have done, since they're mostly of European descent and whose family migrated there in the early 20th century. You like it when the muslims attack Israel. Just like you probably cheered when Iran took American hostages Sure thing kook. Realistically I was serving in the USMC when Iran took our hostages and was assigned to a special group that was prepared to go teach them a lesson. Carter never gave the order to go, but we were ready. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you've never served a day in the US Armed Forces, you're just a armchair warrior with a seething hatred for people you don't know or even try to understand. It's people like you who commit atrocities throughout history, using God as an excuse for your insanity. Imagine raiding someone's property holding a gun and still consider yourself "the innocent who is threatened and endangered"
They made up the Christian part most likely to get sympathy. They might be a Hamas terrorist. No I don't know that and neither do you.
Marines are almost always patriots and honorable. But I have no reason to believe that about you. https://usmclife.com/marine-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-killing-wife- with-his-mistress/
Lets see. You support Hamas terrorists attacking Israel on Oct 7 which started all this. You think Israel shouldn't respond and they should ignore their hostages that are being held captive tortured and raped. You need a new brain.
That's pretty much what the vast majority of Israelis have done The truth is not in you.
Rational people would disagree with that sicko statement.
He did in fact divide the church and managed to kill dozen of Christians. Never heard that before. Maybe I'll look it up.
There are Christians in Gaza and the West Bank. Gaza is/was home to one of the oldest Christian churches in the world before Israel bombed it. Interesting that Hamas tolerated it, isn't it?
You're a decent good guy. I agree your heart is in the right place.
"in that day" in Obadiah is talking about what ever happened in verse 7. It doesn't say in latter days or the last days. It was talking about verse 7. Here are some examples where "in that day" is not talking about the end times. Just a handful of examples. Exodus 8:22 And I will sever in that day the land of Goshen, in which my people dwell, that no swarms of flies shall be there; to the end thou mayest know that I am the Lord in the midst of the earth. And Pharaoh said unto him, Get thee from me, take heed to thyself, see my face no more; for in that day thou seest my face thou shalt die. And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the Lord did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt. Then the priest shall reckon unto him the worth of thy estimation, even unto the year of the jubile: and he shall give thine estimation in that day, as a holy thing unto the Lord. Ok there are a few examples to make my point. Now back to Obadiah. Here are the verses. All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him. Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau? So can you show me how you tie that to after the millennial reign? I don't think you can. You have to just pretend it seems to me. If you can it is your job as a "watchman" to prove it. For me and the lurkers. I will listen to what you say and read the verses truthfully like I always try to do.
I know you said you wouldn't respond to a cut and paste. But you gave me some links to look at which is basically a cut and paste. So please take a look at this. Here is an explanation. It seems logical to me. If there are some errors please tell me and the lurkers where they are. I thank you in advance. I'm just looking for the truth and I genuinely think you are wrong. If you would like to discuss things civilly we can do that. Or you can go the other way. Whichever you choose is how I will respond to you from this day forward. When were Obadiah’s prophecies against Edom fulfilled (Obadiah 1:18-20)? translate prophecies against Edom audio Answer A major factor in determining when Obadiah’s prophecies against Edom were fulfilled rests on when the book was written. The prophet mentions a recent invasion of Jerusalem (1:10-11), which helps to narrow down the date of writing. Jerusalem experienced four different invasions in Old Testament times, yet only two fit the time period under discussion in Obadiah. The early date would be about 841 B.C., when the Philistines and Arabians attacked Jerusalem during the reign of King Jehoram (2 Chronicles 21:16-17). The later date would be approximately 586 B.C., following the invasion of Babylon (2 Kings 24-25). If the earlier date is correct, Obadiah would be the earliest of the prophetic books in the Old Testament. Those who hold this position refer to 2 Kings 8:20, which mentions Edom setting up its own king: “In his days Edom revolted from the rule of Judah and set up a king of their own.” Also used to support this date are comparisons of 2 Chronicles 21:16-17 with Joel 3:3-6 and Obadiah 1:11-12; as well as similarities between Obadiah 1:1-9 and Jeremiah 49:7-22. If the later date is correct, the prophecy of Obadiah regarding Edom’s doom is more dramatic. Babylon completed its invasion of Jerusalem under King Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C. In the fifth century B.C., a people called the Nabateans defeated the Edomites and forced them from the city of Petra. The interval between prediction and fulfillment would, therefore, have been very short. Regardless of the exact date, the predictions against Edom have already been fulfilled. Edom was removed from its land in the fifth century B.C., and there are no survivors of Edom today. This fulfilled the prediction in Obadiah 1:18: “They shall burn them and consume them, and there shall be no survivor for the house of Esau.” Some first-century leaders, such as Herod the Great, still traced their ancestry to Edom, but all mention of Edomites fades after the Jewish Wars of that era. At the end of the 4th century, Jerome referenced the land of Idumea (Edom), but the people of the region had long since disappeared.
Shit person?
Obadiah is yet to be fulfilled. The false messiah will destroy Edom in the next year or so. As they try to escape Jerusalem people in the surrounding areas of their escape route will stand along the roads and hack them down as they pass, just as Edom did to the Israelites as they tried to escape (probably from the Babylonians) back in the Old Testament days.
Ok that is your opinion. But you didn't answer 98. If you get time please do. Thank You.
I just answered 98... Be more specific.
Actually 97. Just more specific if you can be. Break it down in little parts for me when you get a chance if you are so inclined.
98 too though. Specifically what is wrong with what was pasted?
A large part of the great tribulation is about ridding the earth of Edom. Edom will be gone before the millennial age begins. What else is there to say...
Edom will be gone before the millennial age begins. What else is there to say... It is easy to say that. But imo you haven't showed it from scripture. Obadiah 8 for example. Specifically how to you tie that to after the millennial reign? Why is what I posted about Edom disappearing incorrect historically. Why cant that be the fulfillment way back then. Why do you call the Jews Edom. The book of revelation talks about Israel and God saving them. That is before the millennial reign. If you don't agree with that then why. Give me lots of scripture to make me understand where you are coming from. You don't have to do it this second. Think about it and let me know when you have the time. Thank You.
No, it does not...Revelation is about the judgments killing off mankind. The first thing the AC will do is set up the mark of the beast. Those who reject the mark will be killed...those who take the mark will not be eligible for salvation. You keep referring to verses (such as in Zechariah) where you say God is going to cause the Jews to look upon the One they pierced and mourn. By that I assume you mean the Jews will suddenly believe in Christ unto salvation. When in the timeline of the Great Tribulation will this salvation of the Jews occur? Revelation is nothing but people dying. And Revelation says no matter how awful things get, men will still not repent.
First, understand this. Why do you obsess over Israel getting all the land God promised to Abraham and Moses? What does your obsession with Jews killing people and taking their land have to do with "looking on the One they pierced" and being saved? As the IDF soldiers fight and many of them die over the land issue, how are those dead soldiers going to get a chance to be saved? Your obsession with killing over the land is in stark contrast to a time of redemption for the Jews.
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Some 130 Journalists have been killed.
#5. To: Pinguinite (#2)
It's hard to get past your early sentence "Israel is defending themselves".
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#7. To: The_Rock (#5)
those dirty Jews
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Yes he is real and if people don't believe that it is because they are deluded and they decided on their own to reject Gods word.
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#10. To: watchman (#8)
You aren't fooling anyone.
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#12. To: watchman (#11)
You hold the cloaks of those who did this...
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That is 70 years old.
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At least I took the time to respond. Sounds like it might be true from my 3 min I looked at it.
#17. To: The_Rock (#12)
You are a propagandist for Hamas
#18. To: watchman (#17)
Go back to your dead forum, child killer.
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#21. To: watchman (#20)
Ben Shapiro tried to roll out this image on Twitter.
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#24. To: Dakmar (#13)
The Lavon affair was a failed Israeli covert operation,
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#26. To: The_Rock (#23)
So by your own standards that you set, you are a baby killer.
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Video-Israel falsely accused of sharing fake images of Hamas atrocities using AI
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Wow...
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Hamas would never harm anyone. They are a peace group.
Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to ...
The Intercept https://theintercept.com › hamas-israel-palestine-conflict Feb 19, 2018 — Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.
Israel's historical role in the rise of Hamas
The Japan Times https://www.japantimes.co.jp › israel-failed-policy Nov 21, 2023 — Hamas, a spin-off of the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, was formally established with Israel's support soon after the first ...
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Need I post more, Hamas helper?
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it's blown ...
The Times of Israel https://www.timesofisrael.com › for- years-netanyahu-pr... Oct 8, 2023 — For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank ...
EU's Borrell says Israel financed creation of Gaza rulers ...
Reuters https://www.reuters.com › world › europe › eus- borrell... Jan 19, 2024 — EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said on Friday that Israel had financed the creation of Palestinian militant group Hamas, ...
Did Israel create Hamas?
Middle East Monitor https://www.middleeastmonitor.com › 20231115-did-is... Nov 15, 2023 — Claims by the Israelis that they helped Hamas to grow, to divide the Palestinian national movement is not proof that Hamas was created by Israel ...
How Israel helped create Hamas - The Washington Post
Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com › blogs › 2014/07/30
Documents expose Israeli conspiracy to facilitate October 7 ...
World Socialist Web Site https://www.wsws.org › articles › 2023/12/02 › klox-d02 Dec 2, 2023 — Israeli officials, knowing full well how and where Hamas would strike, made a deliberate decision to stand down in order to facilitate the ... If you need more let me know...it's well documented.
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Documents expose Israeli conspiracy to facilitate October 7 ...
Israeli Army's Failure Revealed in Be'eri Oct. 7 Probe Is ...
Haaretz https://www.haaretz.com › ty-article › .premium › israel... Jul 11, 2024 — The investigation into the battle at Kibbutz Be'eri, which the Israel Defense Forces presented on Thursday to the members of the kibbutz and ...
What did Israel know about Hamas' October 7 attack?
CNN https://www.cnn.com › israel-hamas-gaza- intelligence-intl Dec 1, 2023 — Hamas' surprise attack on October 7 left Israel flat- footed, sparking a angry round of consternation that is still rippling through the ...
More details unveiled of IDF intel on Oct. 7 plans, consults ...
The Times of Israel https://www.timesofisrael.com › more-details-unveiled-... Dec 5, 2023 — The top commanders of the Israel Defense Forces were aware, in the hours, days and months that preceded the Hamas-led devastating October 7 ...
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Shitsrael is a terr0rist entity! pic.twitter.com/u8Sg0YAZIz— Rania (@umyaznemo) October 25, 2024
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You posted several pictures and you said this is Israel. And you hate Israel because of those photos.
Did you fact check any of the photos you posted? and if so how many? and are any of the images you posted fake or AI generated?
On the same day the LORD #God made a #covenant with #Abram, saying:
“To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of #Egypt to the great river, the River #Euphrates—" [#Torah: Genesis 15:18] pic.twitter.com/Qbt5WsLvU6— Prince Handley, PhD (@PROPHECYandNEWS) October 19, 2024
Genocidal Israeli on Sky News pic.twitter.com/kHNrYDF4ew— Stevie McGlinchey (@steviemcglinchy) October 22, 2024
#36. To: watchman (#31)
Israel creates boogey men to justify their murder and land theft.
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True or false: Israel used Hamas to barbeque 40 babies?
28 Apache helicopters used all their ammunition and had to be reloaded
Mainstream media is finally catching up to this mass Hannibal Directive
This is what really happened on Oct 7: pic.twitter.com/pDcDUJKgVI— Khalissee (@Kahlissee) October 9, 2024
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Israeli forces killed Israeli citizens on October 7
28 Apache helicopters used all their ammunition and had to be reloaded
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#40. To: watchman (#38)
This would have caused a massive civil war.
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beheaded babies
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Israel is defending themselves.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination 
#44. To: Pinguinite (#39)
Israel is a shithole of a country full of a shitty people.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
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"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#46. To: FormerLurker (#44)
Pretty much.
#47. To: Pinguinite (#39)
I suppose we're to believe that this is how God fulfills his promise of the promised land to his "Chosen People" (TM), contradicting everything Christianity teaches.
#48. To: Pinguinite (#33)
This guy says it all very well.
#49. To: Pinguinite (#35)
I hate Israel because of what it has done and what it has promoted, including religious based supremacism reaching the point where torturing sodomy and genocide is actively condoned and promoted. This is not in dispute.
#50. To: Pinguinite (#35)
Israel's ambitions will not end with Gaza and the West Bank.
#51. To: FormerLurker (#43)
That you're too stupid to see that speaks volumes.
#52. To: Pinguinite, All (#2)
#53. To: FormerLurker (#44)
I used to respect them, then I found out about their ties to the JFK assassination, the attacks against the USS Liberty, their involvement in the bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon, their involvement in 9/11, and countless other evil deeds.
#54. To: Pinguinite (#0)
THIS is Israel
#55. To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#54)
Man's inhumanity to man continues to flabbergast me.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
#56. To: The_Rock (#51)
#57. To: Pinguinite (#56)
#58. To: The_Rock (#47)
Why is that old woman squatting on Israeli soil?
#59. To: The_Rock (#47)
Zionist settlers steal Clothes from Palestinian 🇵🇸 Homes in Hebron‼️🤮 pic.twitter.com/HaHw8DOUFJ— SOFIEN TABOUBI (@TOUNESBELALB) October 27, 2024
#60. To: The_Rock (#57)
They lied about colonization. The land is Israel and it is less than 1 percent of the Middle East.
#61. To: The_Rock (#57)
Israel has a right to exist on all the land the GOD gave them. Yes God.
So this will go on and on.
#62. To: watchman (#61)
Silly Stone. Everyone knows Edom has no claim to the land.
#63. To: Pinguinite (#59)
#64. To: Pinguinite (#60)
I made no comment justifying Hamas holding hostages. I am saying that suffering one crime against humanity does not justify another. You appear to disagree.
#65. To: Pinguinite (#60)
Though you do support this version of religious supremacism that justifies theft of lands and homes from people you know nothing about.
#66. To: Pinguinite (#60)
Though you do support this version of religious supremacism that justifies theft of lands and homes from people you know nothing about.
#67. To: The_Rock (#65)
The land was taken from their jewish ancestors. God gave it to them.
#68. To: The_Rock (#62)
Edom is extinct.
#69. To: watchman (#68)
#70. To: watchman (#68)
Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...
#71. To: BTP Holdings (#69)
There are only three countries in the world that do not have a Rothschild-controlled central bank, North Korea, Iran and Cuba. ;)
#72. To: Pinguinite (#35)
#73. To: BTP Holdings (#72)
. But the Israelites of the Bible are not the modern day Jews.
#74. To: Pinguinite (#67)
Palestinian people are actual Semites. The current Israelis are European. Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.
#75. To: The_Rock (#70)
Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...
#76. To: The_Rock (#73)
Are you a Christian?
#77. To: watchman (#75)
The Bible says God will deal with Edom "In that day..." Obadiah v.8
#78. To: watchman (#75)
#79. To: Pinguinite (#67)
Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.
#80. To: BTP Holdings (#79)
And don't forget that Bibi said, "We control the Americans and they know it."
#81. To: Pinguinite (#56)
(Edited)
#82. To: The_Rock (#64)
Just like the get away driver is guilty too if his accomplice kills someone. Hamas is guilty for all deaths for Israel defending themselves against Hamas.
#83. To: The_Rock (#77)
#84. To: The_Rock (#78)
Are you a Calvanist?
#85. To: The_Rock (#46)
You're a kook.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#86. To: The_Rock (#65)
The land was taken from their jewish ancestors. God gave it to them.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#87. To: The_Rock (#51)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#88. To: The_Rock (#80)
Israeli settlers backed by the army destroy the house of a christian palestinian family and seize their land. pic.twitter.com/NAx4sCjWU7— Abier (@abierkhatib) October 28, 2024
#89. To: Pinguinite (#88)
#90. To: FormerLurker (#87)
Realistically I was serving in the USMC
#91. To: FormerLurker (#87)
It's people like you who commit atrocities throughout history, using God as an excuse for your insanity.
#92. To: FormerLurker (#86)
If I call myself a Jew, does that mean I can go to Israel, butcher a Palestinian family and take their home as mine?
#93. To: FormerLurker (#85)
I don't froth at the mouth and get sexually aroused at the thought of blowing innocent people
#94. To: watchman (#84)
Back in the 1920's a convention of rabbis disclosed Calvin (Cauvin) was sent in to divide the church.
#95. To: The_Rock (#89)
#96. To: Pinguinite (#95)
#97. To: watchman (#83)
#98. To: watchman (#97)
#99. To: Pinguinite (#95)
#100. To: The_Rock (#98)
When were Obadiah’s prophecies against Edom fulfilled (Obadiah 1:18-20)?
#101. To: watchman (#100)
#102. To: The_Rock (#101)
#103. To: watchman (#102)
#104. To: All (#103)
#105. To: The_Rock (#97)
So can you show me how you tie that to after the millennial reign?
#106. To: watchman (#105)
So can you show me how you tie that to after the millennial reign? A large part of the great tribulation is about ridding the earth of Edom.
#107. To: The_Rock (#106)
The book of revelation talks about Israel and God saving them.
#108. To: The_Rock (#106)
Give me lots of scripture to make me understand
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