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Title: THIS is Israel
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Published: Oct 22, 2024
Author: Pinguinite
Post Date: 2024-10-22 16:46:02 by Pinguinite
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Views: 975
Comments: 108
Very sensitive images, but very REAL images that need to see the light of day. This is why I hate Israel. "God's Chosen People" my ass. Change my mind. Many of these images are censored even on X for their extreme content, but ... welcome to 4um where reality is permitted! The Israeli Gal Gadot screen shot is fitting contrasting Wonder Woman's concern about innocent children in a movie set with the real life actress's advocacy of Israel's brutal onslaught.
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#69. To: watchman (#68)
There are only three countries in the world that do not have a Rothschild-controlled central bank, North Korea, Iran and Cuba. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
No asshole. Any idiot can paste a picture and claim they alive. The encyclopedia and sources I have posted to you says they were wiped out. Just like the Bible says. Only an idiot who posts a shield and says stop lights are red and that proves Edom exists would think something like that. In other words you moron. I already had this discussion with you. You are to senile and forgetful to remember it obviously. You lost the debate as you offered zero documentation for your assinie claims. Here is the thread where you couldn't put up shit.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=284712&Disp=29#C29 You're an idiot and a liar and generally a POS! If you have found some proof besides a random photo on the internet please share it. But as of yet you haven't offered shit except your shit for brains.
Prove the USA has a Rothschild controlled central bank. I know we have the Federal Reserve, which I don't think we should have. I would prefer constitutional money. But I think you are wrong. If you are correct than so be it. But you should show it.
This is true. But the Israelites of the Bible are not the modern day Jews. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
They are their descendants. You just use that talking point to justify your hatred of Gods Chosen People. Are you a Christian? Lots of times non Christians try to make that point because they don't want to live up to Gods word. Not always but often.
It all goes back to the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Lord Arthur Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary, wrote this document. It was presented to the Zionist Association of Great Briain an Ireland. It promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine which at that time was an Ottoman area. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
The Bible says God will deal with Edom "In that day..." Obadiah v.8 "In that day" refers to the last days, the time of judgment. How could they be extinct? Are you calling God a liar?
Isn't your fav song Highway To Hell by AC/DC? It's like your anthem. It's as if you've set your course for eternity.
"In that day" refers to the last days, the time of judgment. Why do you say it refers to the "last days"? Seriously I would like to know. "That day" seems to be referring to whatever time vs 7 is talking about. Can you explain? 7 All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him. 8 Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
Are you a Calvanist?
He is the longest-serving Prime Minister in Israel’s history. His father, Benzion Netanyahu (born Benzion Mileikowsky), a scholar, was a Polish Jewish emigrant, born in Warsaw, who moved with his family to Israel in 1920. His mother, Tzila (Segal), was born in Petah Tikva, Israel, of Lithuanian Jewish, Polish Jewish, and Belarusian Jewish descent. And don't forget that Bibi said, "We control the Americans and they know it." "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
That is horsepoo. Provide a legitimate citation. You can't.
And the true motive of Israel eliminating Gaza is the oil and gas fields under the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Gaza. Again, it is the money grubbing Jew that comes to the fore. BTW, the French did the right thing to not allow Israeli athletes into the country for the Olympics to protest the war in Gaza. ;) "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
So you are guilty of all abortions conducted/enabled/paid for by the Biden Administration?
"In that day" is used some 253 times and is generally defined by the context. Check out this link: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/phrases/In-that-Day With Obadiah you would need to reconcile the usage with other prophecies, and the evidence you clearly see happening before your eyes. I've explained all of this to you but you reject it.
Absolutely not. Back in the 1920's a convention of rabbis disclosed Calvin (Cauvin) was sent in to divide the church. He did in fact divide the church and managed to kill dozen of Christians.
Sure thing skippy. Unlike you, I don't froth at the mouth and get sexually aroused at the thought of blowing innocent people up into piles of bloody mush. And since Palestinians ARE descended from the original inhabitants of that land, and since you support their slaughter, you are a murderous anti- semite. Civilians should never be considered military targets, no matter their religion or ethnicity. Uh huh, so THEY said. If I call myself a Jew, does that mean I can go to Israel, butcher a Palestinian family and take their home as mine? That's pretty much what the vast majority of Israelis have done, since they're mostly of European descent and whose family migrated there in the early 20th century. You like it when the muslims attack Israel. Just like you probably cheered when Iran took American hostages Sure thing kook. Realistically I was serving in the USMC when Iran took our hostages and was assigned to a special group that was prepared to go teach them a lesson. Carter never gave the order to go, but we were ready. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you've never served a day in the US Armed Forces, you're just a armchair warrior with a seething hatred for people you don't know or even try to understand. It's people like you who commit atrocities throughout history, using God as an excuse for your insanity. Imagine raiding someone's property holding a gun and still consider yourself "the innocent who is threatened and endangered"
They made up the Christian part most likely to get sympathy. They might be a Hamas terrorist. No I don't know that and neither do you.
Marines are almost always patriots and honorable. But I have no reason to believe that about you. https://usmclife.com/marine-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-killing-wife- with-his-mistress/
Lets see. You support Hamas terrorists attacking Israel on Oct 7 which started all this. You think Israel shouldn't respond and they should ignore their hostages that are being held captive tortured and raped. You need a new brain.
That's pretty much what the vast majority of Israelis have done The truth is not in you.
Rational people would disagree with that sicko statement.
He did in fact divide the church and managed to kill dozen of Christians. Never heard that before. Maybe I'll look it up.
There are Christians in Gaza and the West Bank. Gaza is/was home to one of the oldest Christian churches in the world before Israel bombed it. Interesting that Hamas tolerated it, isn't it?
You're a decent good guy. I agree your heart is in the right place.
"in that day" in Obadiah is talking about what ever happened in verse 7. It doesn't say in latter days or the last days. It was talking about verse 7. Here are some examples where "in that day" is not talking about the end times. Just a handful of examples. Exodus 8:22 And I will sever in that day the land of Goshen, in which my people dwell, that no swarms of flies shall be there; to the end thou mayest know that I am the Lord in the midst of the earth. And Pharaoh said unto him, Get thee from me, take heed to thyself, see my face no more; for in that day thou seest my face thou shalt die. And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the Lord did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt. Then the priest shall reckon unto him the worth of thy estimation, even unto the year of the jubile: and he shall give thine estimation in that day, as a holy thing unto the Lord. Ok there are a few examples to make my point. Now back to Obadiah. Here are the verses. All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him. Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau? So can you show me how you tie that to after the millennial reign? I don't think you can. You have to just pretend it seems to me. If you can it is your job as a "watchman" to prove it. For me and the lurkers. I will listen to what you say and read the verses truthfully like I always try to do.
I know you said you wouldn't respond to a cut and paste. But you gave me some links to look at which is basically a cut and paste. So please take a look at this. Here is an explanation. It seems logical to me. If there are some errors please tell me and the lurkers where they are. I thank you in advance. I'm just looking for the truth and I genuinely think you are wrong. If you would like to discuss things civilly we can do that. Or you can go the other way. Whichever you choose is how I will respond to you from this day forward. When were Obadiah’s prophecies against Edom fulfilled (Obadiah 1:18-20)? translate prophecies against Edom audio Answer A major factor in determining when Obadiah’s prophecies against Edom were fulfilled rests on when the book was written. The prophet mentions a recent invasion of Jerusalem (1:10-11), which helps to narrow down the date of writing. Jerusalem experienced four different invasions in Old Testament times, yet only two fit the time period under discussion in Obadiah. The early date would be about 841 B.C., when the Philistines and Arabians attacked Jerusalem during the reign of King Jehoram (2 Chronicles 21:16-17). The later date would be approximately 586 B.C., following the invasion of Babylon (2 Kings 24-25). If the earlier date is correct, Obadiah would be the earliest of the prophetic books in the Old Testament. Those who hold this position refer to 2 Kings 8:20, which mentions Edom setting up its own king: “In his days Edom revolted from the rule of Judah and set up a king of their own.” Also used to support this date are comparisons of 2 Chronicles 21:16-17 with Joel 3:3-6 and Obadiah 1:11-12; as well as similarities between Obadiah 1:1-9 and Jeremiah 49:7-22. If the later date is correct, the prophecy of Obadiah regarding Edom’s doom is more dramatic. Babylon completed its invasion of Jerusalem under King Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C. In the fifth century B.C., a people called the Nabateans defeated the Edomites and forced them from the city of Petra. The interval between prediction and fulfillment would, therefore, have been very short. Regardless of the exact date, the predictions against Edom have already been fulfilled. Edom was removed from its land in the fifth century B.C., and there are no survivors of Edom today. This fulfilled the prediction in Obadiah 1:18: “They shall burn them and consume them, and there shall be no survivor for the house of Esau.” Some first-century leaders, such as Herod the Great, still traced their ancestry to Edom, but all mention of Edomites fades after the Jewish Wars of that era. At the end of the 4th century, Jerome referenced the land of Idumea (Edom), but the people of the region had long since disappeared.
Shit person?
Obadiah is yet to be fulfilled. The false messiah will destroy Edom in the next year or so. As they try to escape Jerusalem people in the surrounding areas of their escape route will stand along the roads and hack them down as they pass, just as Edom did to the Israelites as they tried to escape (probably from the Babylonians) back in the Old Testament days.
Ok that is your opinion. But you didn't answer 98. If you get time please do. Thank You.
I just answered 98... Be more specific.
Actually 97. Just more specific if you can be. Break it down in little parts for me when you get a chance if you are so inclined.
98 too though. Specifically what is wrong with what was pasted?
A large part of the great tribulation is about ridding the earth of Edom. Edom will be gone before the millennial age begins. What else is there to say...
Edom will be gone before the millennial age begins. What else is there to say... It is easy to say that. But imo you haven't showed it from scripture. Obadiah 8 for example. Specifically how to you tie that to after the millennial reign? Why is what I posted about Edom disappearing incorrect historically. Why cant that be the fulfillment way back then. Why do you call the Jews Edom. The book of revelation talks about Israel and God saving them. That is before the millennial reign. If you don't agree with that then why. Give me lots of scripture to make me understand where you are coming from. You don't have to do it this second. Think about it and let me know when you have the time. Thank You.
No, it does not...Revelation is about the judgments killing off mankind. The first thing the AC will do is set up the mark of the beast. Those who reject the mark will be killed...those who take the mark will not be eligible for salvation. You keep referring to verses (such as in Zechariah) where you say God is going to cause the Jews to look upon the One they pierced and mourn. By that I assume you mean the Jews will suddenly believe in Christ unto salvation. When in the timeline of the Great Tribulation will this salvation of the Jews occur? Revelation is nothing but people dying. And Revelation says no matter how awful things get, men will still not repent.
First, understand this. Why do you obsess over Israel getting all the land God promised to Abraham and Moses? What does your obsession with Jews killing people and taking their land have to do with "looking on the One they pierced" and being saved? As the IDF soldiers fight and many of them die over the land issue, how are those dead soldiers going to get a chance to be saved? Your obsession with killing over the land is in stark contrast to a time of redemption for the Jews.
#70. To: watchman (#68)
Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...
#71. To: BTP Holdings (#69)
There are only three countries in the world that do not have a Rothschild-controlled central bank, North Korea, Iran and Cuba. ;)
#72. To: Pinguinite (#35)
#73. To: BTP Holdings (#72)
. But the Israelites of the Bible are not the modern day Jews.
#74. To: Pinguinite (#67)
Palestinian people are actual Semites. The current Israelis are European. Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.
#75. To: The_Rock (#70)
Don't you feel stupid for saying they are extinct...
#76. To: The_Rock (#73)
Are you a Christian?
#77. To: watchman (#75)
The Bible says God will deal with Edom "In that day..." Obadiah v.8
#78. To: watchman (#75)
#79. To: Pinguinite (#67)
Nenanyahu is ethnic Polish.
#80. To: BTP Holdings (#79)
And don't forget that Bibi said, "We control the Americans and they know it."
#81. To: Pinguinite (#56)
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#82. To: The_Rock (#64)
Just like the get away driver is guilty too if his accomplice kills someone. Hamas is guilty for all deaths for Israel defending themselves against Hamas.
#83. To: The_Rock (#77)
#84. To: The_Rock (#78)
Are you a Calvanist?
#85. To: The_Rock (#46)
You're a kook.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination 
#86. To: The_Rock (#65)
The land was taken from their jewish ancestors. God gave it to them.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#87. To: The_Rock (#51)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#88. To: The_Rock (#80)
Israeli settlers backed by the army destroy the house of a christian palestinian family and seize their land. pic.twitter.com/NAx4sCjWU7— Abier (@abierkhatib) October 28, 2024
#89. To: Pinguinite (#88)
#90. To: FormerLurker (#87)
Realistically I was serving in the USMC
#91. To: FormerLurker (#87)
It's people like you who commit atrocities throughout history, using God as an excuse for your insanity.
#92. To: FormerLurker (#86)
If I call myself a Jew, does that mean I can go to Israel, butcher a Palestinian family and take their home as mine?
#93. To: FormerLurker (#85)
I don't froth at the mouth and get sexually aroused at the thought of blowing innocent people
#94. To: watchman (#84)
Back in the 1920's a convention of rabbis disclosed Calvin (Cauvin) was sent in to divide the church.
#95. To: The_Rock (#89)
#96. To: Pinguinite (#95)
#97. To: watchman (#83)
#98. To: watchman (#97)
#99. To: Pinguinite (#95)
#100. To: The_Rock (#98)
When were Obadiah’s prophecies against Edom fulfilled (Obadiah 1:18-20)?
#101. To: watchman (#100)
#102. To: The_Rock (#101)
#103. To: watchman (#102)
#104. To: All (#103)
#105. To: The_Rock (#97)
So can you show me how you tie that to after the millennial reign?
#106. To: watchman (#105)
So can you show me how you tie that to after the millennial reign? A large part of the great tribulation is about ridding the earth of Edom.
#107. To: The_Rock (#106)
The book of revelation talks about Israel and God saving them.
#108. To: The_Rock (#106)
Give me lots of scripture to make me understand
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