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Title: The Mystery of the Hillary Clinton Cattle Futures Controversy
Source: moneymorning.com
URL Source: https://moneymorning.com/2015/11/06 ... on-cattle-futures-controversy/
Published: Nov 06, 2016
Author: Tara Clarke
Post Date: 2024-10-26 22:47:12 by Dakmar
Keywords: None
Views: 289
Comments: 23

The year was 1978.

First lady of Arkansas Hillary Rodham Clinton said, in later interviews, she'd wanted to pad her husband's modest salary with some investments.

She did just that - with highly speculative commodities trading. In fact, Clinton turned $1,000 into $100,000.

But her actions would spark a scandal, known as the "Hillary Clinton cattle futures controversy."

Here's why...

The History Behind the Hillary Clinton Cattle Futures Controversy

Commodities trading is risky. Analysts estimate more than three-quarters of commodities investors lose money.

But skilled traders - or ones with special knowledge - can cash in.

Hillary Clinton had no commodities trading experience when she entered the market. Nor did she have any specialized knowledge of the cattle business.

Yet she cashed in, miraculously turning $1,000 into $99,537 in 11 months, by investing in live cattle futures - contracts linked to the anticipated future value of 40,000 pounds of slaughter-ready beef cattle.

That's why eyebrows raised when computerized records of Clinton's trades, which the White House obtained from the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME), showed how she was able to turn her initial investment of $1,000 into $6,300 overnight (and nearly $100,000 over the next 10 months).

Clinton said her trades were guided by her own research in The Wall Street Journal, and by James Blair - her friend and a top in-house lawyer for Tyson Foods Inc. (NYSE: TSN), one of Arkansas' most lucrative companies.

But analysts nationwide gauged the odds of her success and were left with serious doubts that Clinton's cattle futures trades had been totally legal...

Hillary Clinton Cattle Futures Controversy: Shadows of Doubt

The Washington Post noted in a report on May 27, 1994, that "while Clinton's account was wildly successful to an outsider, it was small compared to what others were making in the cattle futures market in the 1978-79 period."

The Post's conclusion was much more favorable than the rest. Critically, it also compared absolute profits instead of percentage rate of return.

"This is like buying ice skates one day and entering the Olympics a day later. She took some extraordinary risks," stated Journal of Future Markets in April 1994.

In a 1994 study published in the Journal of Economics and Finance, economists from the University of North Florida and Auburn University investigated the odds of gaining a hundred-fold return in the cattle futures market during the period in question. Using a model that was stated to give the hypothetical investor the benefit of the doubt, they concluded that the odds of such a return happening were - at best - 1 in 31 trillion.

A 1995 analysis from National Review, conducted by hedge fund manager Victor Niederhoffer and Bloomberg News columnist Caroline Baum, concluded that Clinton's explanations for her results were highly implausible.
The Marshall School of Business said the following in a 1998 article in Marshall Magazine:

These results are quite remarkable. Two-thirds of [Clinton's] trades showed a profit by the end of the day she made them and 80 percent were ultimately profitable. Many of her trades took place at or near the best prices of the day.

Only four explanations can account for these remarkable results. Blair may have been an exceptionally good trader. Hillary Clinton may have been exceptionally lucky. Blair may have been front-running other orders. Or Blair may have arranged to have a broker fraudulently assign trades to benefit Clinton's account.

And, going back to The Washington Post article, even it noted curious discrepancies. It reported Clinton "was allowed to order 10 cattle futures contracts, normally a $12,000 investment, in her first commodity trade in 1978 although she had only $1,000 in her account at the time, according to trade records the White House released [that day]."

It continued: "The [CME] records also raise the possibility that some of her profits - as much as $40,000 - came from larger trades ordered by someone else and then shifted to her account, Leo Melamed, a former chairman of the Merc who reviewed the records for the White House, said in an interview. He said the discrepancies in Clinton's records also could have been caused by human error."

And finally, here's an excellent recap. An anonymous commenter on ask-and-answer site Quora posted a quick analysis that breaks down the chronology of the Hillary Clinton cattle futures scandal. It's based on Barbara Olson's expose on Clinton, "Hell to Pay":

Here are the explanations that we got in 1994 - either from the Clinton camp or from investigative reporters - when the whole matter burst into public sight. I'm drawing on a recap by the late Barbara Olsen in her book "Hell to Pay."

1. Clinton's spokespeople initially explain that there's no story here - she consulted with numerous people and did her own research.
2. As questions persist, Clinton's aides say she got a little advice, but not on any specific dates or trades.
3.  Then again, if journalists won't stop asking questions, it's worth adding that Clinton's main source of advice was Arkansas lawyer and sometimes commodity trader Jim Blair, a Clinton family friend.
4. It turns out that Blair was close to Tyson Foods at the time, a big Arkansas company that would be understandably eager to have good relations with the Clinton family.
5. As questions persist, it emerges that Hillary Clinton's trades were placed by Robert L. "Red" Bone, a commodities trader and high-stakes poker player.
6. Poke around a bit  more, and it turns out Red Bone in the late 1970s was censured by the  Chicago Mercantile Exchange for allocating trades to investors after the  fact - a mechanism that makes it possible to steer a lot of winners  into one particular portfolio.
7. Funny twist: while Clinton was making one winning trade after another, her "adviser," Mr. Blair, kept losing money on his trades.
8.  Various folks try to calculate the odds of being able to turn $1,000 into nearly $100,000, without any special edge. Their assessment: for a neophyte trader, it's about 1 in a zillion.
9. The Chicago Merc. does some looking into the situation, and decides that Clinton did nothing wrong.

Nothing wrong, indeed. There were never any official investigations into the Hillary Clinton cattle futures controversy, nor was the current 2016 Democratic front-runner officially charged with wrongdoing.

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#1. To: Dakmar (#0)

What's the synopsis, big boy?

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-10-26   22:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Esso (#1)

Working on it. Yikes...

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-26   22:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Esso, Horse (#1) (Edited)

Oh hells yes I remember now. Tyson runs meat processing plants, and refuses to pay a living wage. (was that amusing?)

Tysons is Clinton Democrats, Tyson is Arkansas royalty, along with the Waltons (WalMart, not the 1970's TV series)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-26   23:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Esso (#1)

What's the synopsis, big boy?

Ummm, is it ok if I rent your porch to a travelling carneceria?

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-26   23:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Dakmar (#4)

Are you going to get back to Pac about filming our sex life?

I want to look like Sophie on the Jago Dibuja website in animation but X rated.

I saw you were talking about it. Kim

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-10-26   23:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Esso (#5)

I'm awake, call me

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-26   23:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Dakmar (#4)

Ummm, is it ok if I rent your porch to a travelling carneceria?

No problem, I don't have a front porch.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-10-26   23:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Esso (#7)

`

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-27   0:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Dakmar (#8)

I love you, Dax, Kim

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-10-27   0:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9) (Edited)

I love you too Dakkie.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-10-27   0:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Esso, Kim (#10)

But we can never be the new yardbirds. I get it.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-27   0:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Dakmar (#11)

But we can never be the new yardbirds

We can. Kim

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-10-27   0:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Esso, Kim (#12)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-27   0:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Dakmar (#13)

Pac's old gfs

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-10-27   0:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Esso (#13)

It's not the genre, it's the unrelenting bass that makes me want to kill.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-27   0:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Esso (#14)

Duran Duran

God that's boring :)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-27   0:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Esso, Kim (#14)

Lawd hep me jeebus!

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-27   0:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Dakmar (#15)

It's not the genre, it's the unrelenting bass that makes me want to kill.

I was lucky, none of my GFs died in my house.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2024-10-27   0:46:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Esso (#18)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-27   0:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Esso (#1)

The story as I've heard it says that back in the day when this happened, winning contracts were basically assigned to accounts after they were closed or what not, not at the time they were opened. This left the door open to shifting winning trades into a desired account. I don't think that's been allowed for a long time but was back in the barn- storming days of trading & bribery.

I.e.: 6. Poke around a bit more, and it turns out Red Bone in the late 1970s was censured by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange for allocating trades to investors after the fact - a mechanism that makes it possible to steer a lot of winners into one particular portfolio. 7. Funny twist: while Clinton was making one winning trade after another, her "adviser," Mr. Blair, kept losing money on his trades.

So the bribe worked by someone or some entity buying in to both sides of a futures trade, and then which ever one wins got assigned to Hillary and the company took the losing one.

But what do I know?

Pinguinite  posted on  2024-10-27   0:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Pinguinite, Esso, the Influencer (#20)

:)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-27   0:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Pinguinite (#20)

The story as I've heard it says that back in the day when this happened, winning contracts were basically assigned to accounts after they were closed or what not, not at the time they were opened. This left the door open to shifting winning trades into a desired account. I don't think that's been allowed for a long time but was back in the barn- storming days of trading & bribery.

Righty-right! That's when the merchants told the buyers to fuck off because serving the public took a back seat to securing government contacts.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2024-10-27   1:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Esso (#1)

What's the synopsis, big boy?

Hillary's bribe payers would take the losses and she took the wins ... her bribe payers were doing all of the gambling and betting both sides of the equation.

Big Boy !

noone2222  posted on  2024-10-27   5:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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